Re: [PD] pasted objects now end up under the original object
i think it's worth it to look at how some other applications handle it. it is quite annoying if the same function is different across applications and when you spent a lot of time in one program you get confused working with a different one. (for example i regularily try to go to edit mode in my PIM manager/address book with cmd-E and then remember that it is not pd) copy and pasting is an important part of pd. what is very confusing for beginners is that things are pasted exactly where they where in the first place. a typical situation is that someone has discovered a certain thing in an help-patch and wants to experiment with that. so the part is selected and a new window opened and pasted. nothing is drawn, so the student presses cmd-v some more times and later realizes that it all was pasted somewhere far off. i'd recommend that pasting pastes by default in the middle of the front window. cmd-alt-shift-v should do what the paste does now: paste to same position. that's how it is in adobe products by the way. ciao, max Am 01.09.2008 um 13:09 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Miller Puckette hat gesagt: // Miller Puckette wrote: Right, control-D should probably stay as it is, but separately copying and pasting migt want to do something smarter. What about this idea/specification for a possible smart placement: 1) user presses Ctl-C and copies objects from coordinates (xc,yc) 2) user presses Ctl-V, mouse is at (xm, ym) 3) Objects get pasted at position: (xc, yc) - the original coordinates - but they don't get anchored yet. Now comes the new part: 4.1 a) If user moves the mouse now, the objects move to the mouse coordinates (xm, ym) and they stick to the mouse from that point on, until the next click. 4.1 b) Alternatively one could enter the sticky phase only if the user clicks the mouse, i.e. as soon as the user after step 3) clicks into the canvas, the objects move to the mouse position and stay selected for mouse movement until the button is released at which point the objects are anchored and possibly deselected. Deselecting could also require a second click. I like b) better than a): it contains less surprises. 4.2) This alternate path is taken, if the user doesn't use the mouse, but the cursor keys instead after step 3): The objects move relative to their new position at (xc, yc). They are still selected. Mouse movements don't affect their position anymore, mouse clicks will deselect the objects. That's basically the old, non-smart placement, which has its uses, too. THe current strategy for figuring out which object you clicked on is that, if more tan one object is selected, Pd prefers to drag an already- selected one; this is much better than whatever I had going before. Yes, that's good. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM + eee, segmentation fault
hi list, just got a 901 and gem seems to run fine so far, i'd like to know how to access the webcam though in GEM. (ubuntu is on it) Am 28.07.2008 um 17:46 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: potax flan wrote: just installed debian lenny on the eeePC and gem works fine. just ran a few basic tests but i get NO segmentation faults when destroying gemwins. just thought i'd share this. that's good news and thanks for sharing. which eee do you have (not that the chipsets differ so much...)? fga,mr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc2 released
Hans, thank you for doing that. I have some remarks though: Am 2008-06-23 um 06:58 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd i still think it should rather be /Library/Application Support/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows error when doing that on the text editor. on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows this is quite useless on a german keyboard, since cycling through windows is cmd- and cmd- for the ` i have to press shift as well and its in the opposite corner of the keyboard. no other program uses it. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ~/pd or ~/.pd for user's externals directory
i think /Library/Application\ Support/Pure\ Data and ~/Library/Application\ Support/Pure\ Data would make more sense on OS X m. Am 2008-06-16 um 19:49 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: With this release of Pd-extended, all platforms have default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. I just had a thought, perhaps ~/.pd would be a better directory than ~/pd. Any thoughts on that? Here's how it is now: GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd .hc -- -- ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Abstractions search path hirarchy (was: pduino-arduino trouble)
i don't konw if that's related. i was using the release candidate: Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20080603. my question: wouldn't it make sense if Pd would search first in the same directory as the patch is for abstractions? m. Am 2008-06-14 um 23:05 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Yeah, that was my mistake, I removed hardware/arduino.pd from the nightly builds since it shouldn't be there. Sorry about that... .hc On Jun 14, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Max Neupert wrote: hi list, i found the source of my problem here. the patch was using the [arduino] abstraction. i had it located in the same path than my patch (version 0.3), but another one (version 0.4) is located in /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hardware/ i've always assumed that pd searches for abstractions first in the same directory than the patch is found. that doesn't seem to be the case. for some reason pd sometimes choose to prefer the 0.4 version which has a different, non working bitrate set. i've deleted the abstraction and use it now in a subpatch instead, so i am sure no other version is loaded instead. max Am 2008-06-13 um 18:54 schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen: Max Neupert wrote: this is the output when it does work: set_baudrate baudbits: 57600 this is the output when it doesn't: set_baudrate baudbits: 115200 anyone has a clue what's going on? I'm guessing the baudbits has something to do with it. Maybe something along the connection between pd and arduino doesn't support the higher speed. Never used arduino or any other serial devices though. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu - Pd-extended - About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash Am 2008-06-04 um 20:59 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1 released
done. Am 2008-06-15 um 23:01 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Strange one, could you file a bug report? .hc On Jun 15, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Max Neupert wrote: do the following to reproduce a crash (tested on os x, don't know about other systems) open pd navigate to menu - Pd-extended - About Pd... select some of the text close the window crash Am 2008-06-04 um 20:59 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: For this release, there has been a lot of work in making the GUI and user experience much more fluid and easy. There is a new visual look that was designed to make patches more readable. Additionally, lots of things have been tweaked to make Pd behave more like a normal app. There has already been a lot of testing on these builds, so it is getting quite close to a final version. (Debian/PowerPC is missing now but will come later) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Here is a partial changelog: - next visual appearance designed for readability (it can run slower on machines 1 GHz) - default locations for user-installed externals, helpfiles, etc. GNU/Linux: /usr/share/pd and ~/pd Mac OS X: /Library/Pd and ~/Library/Pd Windows: %ProgramFiles%/Common Files/Pd and %UserProfile%/ Application Data/Pd - lots of standard key bindings added: Enter/Return for OK Escape for Cancel Ctrl/Cmd-W closes all windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-` cycles thru open windows on Mac OS X, Cmd-m minimizes windows Ctrl/Cmd-R raises/lowers Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-R shrinks/grows Pd window Ctrl/Cmd-Shift-L clears Pd window's text console Ctrl/Cmd-B opens the Help Browser - you can now use ~ in all paths to mean home folder, and on Windows you can use environment variables, lie %UserProfile% in paths - cut/copy/paste now work directly into text boxes on all platforms - [declare] and [import] now sorted out for loading, much work needs to be done before there namespace support is complete - File - Save As defaults to the Home folder (~/) - fixed Cut/Copy/Paste for the Pd window's console - included pgp_opengl aka 3dp on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X KNOWN BUGS - check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you. - Richard M. Stallman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Abstractions search path hirarchy (was: pduino-arduino trouble)
hi list, i found the source of my problem here. the patch was using the [arduino] abstraction. i had it located in the same path than my patch (version 0.3), but another one (version 0.4) is located in /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hardware/ i've always assumed that pd searches for abstractions first in the same directory than the patch is found. that doesn't seem to be the case. for some reason pd sometimes choose to prefer the 0.4 version which has a different, non working bitrate set. i've deleted the abstraction and use it now in a subpatch instead, so i am sure no other version is loaded instead. max Am 2008-06-13 um 18:54 schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen: Max Neupert wrote: this is the output when it does work: set_baudrate baudbits: 57600 this is the output when it doesn't: set_baudrate baudbits: 115200 anyone has a clue what's going on? I'm guessing the baudbits has something to do with it. Maybe something along the connection between pd and arduino doesn't support the higher speed. Never used arduino or any other serial devices though. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino-arduino trouble
it's really hard to fix since it simply works sometimes and then stops working. not very reliable for an installation supposed to run automatically in a different city for some weeks :( this is the output when it does work: -- error: [comport] ** ERROR ** could not open device /dev/tty.Roy-Dial- upNetworking-2: failure(16): Resource busy [comport] invalid handle for /dev/tty.* [arduino]: version_0.3 get_baud_ratebits: 57600.00 set_baudrate baudbits: 57600 [comport] opened serial line device 5 (/dev/tty.usbserial-A6004nvF) Arduino/Firmata_version: 1 0 -- this is the output when it doesn't: -- error: [comport] ** ERROR ** could not open device /dev/tty.Roy-Dial- upNetworking-2: failure(16): Resource busy [comport] invalid handle for /dev/tty.* [arduino]: version_0.4 get_baud_ratebits: 115200.00 set_baudrate baudbits: 115200 [comport] opened serial line device 5 (/dev/tty.usbserial-A6004nvF) UNKNOWN_INPUT_COMMAND: 6 0 --- so it'a exactly the same, first the wrong device gets opened because of the default name, but then one tim it can connect, the other time it can't. anyone has a clue what's going on? m. Am 2008-06-13 um 03:03 schrieb Martin Peach: Well errno 9 is EBADF, error bad file number, so the serial port file descriptor is not good for some reason, maybe because the serial port was closed. Martin From: Max Neupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] pduino-arduino trouble Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:39:50 +1000 hi list, i have problems getting a arduino diecimila to run. sometimes i get this: Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line and sometimes that: UNKNOWN_INPUT_COMMAND: 6 0 in both cases i can't access the data. some hours before it was working, i have no clue. m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino-arduino trouble
that could be it. but why is it doing that? the comport object in the arduino abstraction says [comport $1 57600] so shouldn't the rate be fixed to 57600? why does it sometimes connect with 115200? max Am 2008-06-13 um 18:54 schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen: Max Neupert wrote: this is the output when it does work: set_baudrate baudbits: 57600 this is the output when it doesn't: set_baudrate baudbits: 115200 anyone has a clue what's going on? I'm guessing the baudbits has something to do with it. Maybe something along the connection between pd and arduino doesn't support the higher speed. Never used arduino or any other serial devices though. Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (trigger-prepend) connection failed
i get the message saying that (trigger-prepend) connection failed when i run my patch in -nogui. i am trying to guess what is happening. i have a theory: in the helpfile of prepend i read that the version in max doesn't have a second inlet. so is it possible, that a cyclone version of prepend is loaded when i run in -nogui? on the other hand [cyclone/prepend] has two inlets as well, so it might be something else. comments would be appreciated. Am 2008-06-12 um 15:54 schrieb Max Neupert: logik 25 1 16 1 (trigger-prepend) connection failed this only apperars when i load pd in nogui. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] (trigger-prepend) connection failed
aah, great. after replacing [prepend] with [list prepend] it works. thank you frank! max Am 2008-06-12 um 17:02 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Max Neupert hat gesagt: // Max Neupert wrote: ok, the cause for the message could not open midi output 1 (MidiPipe Eingang 1): PortMidi: `Bad pointer' was inside the patch: [loadbang] | [; pd midi-dialog 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 2( after i removed that the error was gone. but i have a new one: logik 25 1 16 1 (trigger-prepend) connection failed this only apperars when i load pd in nogui. Strange. Normally missing objects like your prepend are missing regardless of gui or nongui mode. Does it also happen if you use a prepend built from [list prepend ...]---[list trim] instead? [prepend] is an object that should be avoided anyway because there are various incompatible version of it available. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pduino-arduino trouble
hi list, i have problems getting a arduino diecimila to run. sometimes i get this: Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line [comport] write returned -1, errno is 9 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line and sometimes that: UNKNOWN_INPUT_COMMAND: 6 0 in both cases i can't access the data. some hours before it was working, i have no clue. m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] can't open midi port in -nogui
hi list, (using Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1-macosx104-powerpc.dmg) on 10.4, PPC i use a shell script to startup pd for an installation. it looks something like this: ---shell script- /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -path / Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hardware -path / Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/flatspace - path /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib - path /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mapping - path /clarafrancesco -lib mapping -lib iemlib -lib hardware -lib flatspace -r 48000 -listdev -nomidiin -midioutdev 1 -noadc - outchannels 2 -nogui -noprefs /clarafrancesco/CLARAFRANCESCO.pd --end--- but later in the terminal it seems i can't open the midi port. --Terminal output-- 008-06-12 01:10:21.623 pd[4717] CFLog (21): Error loading /Library/ QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/MacOS/Motion: error code 4, error number 0 (Library not loaded: /Library/Frameworks/ Motion.framework/Versions/A/Motion Referenced from: /Library/QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/ MacOS/Motion Reason: image not found) 2008-06-12 01:10:21.737 pd[4717] CFLog (21): Error loading /Library/ QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/MacOS/Motion: error code 4, error number 0 (Library not loaded: /Library/Frameworks/ Motion.framework/Versions/A/Motion Referenced from: /Library/QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/ MacOS/Motion Reason: image not found) audio input devices: 1. (0)iSight 2. (0)Built-in Audio audio output devices: 1. (0)Built-in Audio API number 4 pd(4717,0xa000ed88) malloc: *** error for object 0x25afbe0: double free pd(4717,0xa000ed88) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in szone_error to debug pd(4717,0xa000ed88) malloc: *** error for object 0x25aff20: double free pd(4717,0xa000ed88) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in szone_error to debug MIDI input devices: 1. MidiPipe Ausgang 1 MIDI output devices: 1. MidiPipe Eingang 1 sys_nmidiin 0, nmidiindev 0 could not open midi output 1 (MidiPipe Eingang 1): PortMidi: `Bad pointer' --End--- the same patch runs fine with midi on the same machine with the GUI. even stranger is that on another machine (Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1- macosx104-i386.dmg, 10.5, intel) -nogui and midi just works. what could be the cause? m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternate object
hi james, it's part of markex says the help file. If i remember right there is also one in Gem. But you can also really easy make an alternate yourself. max Am 2008-06-12 um 01:02 schrieb James Dunn: Hi, Can anyone tell me where I can find the Alternate object? I'm using pd 0.39-3 extended on Ubuntu 8.04 thanks James ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternate object
examples attached. alternierend.pd Description: Binary data Am 2008-06-12 um 01:02 schrieb James Dunn: Hi, Can anyone tell me where I can find the Alternate object? I'm using pd 0.39-3 extended on Ubuntu 8.04 thanks James ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] (trigger-prepend) connection failed (was: can't open midi port in -nogui)
ok, the cause for the message could not open midi output 1 (MidiPipe Eingang 1): PortMidi: `Bad pointer' was inside the patch: [loadbang] | [; pd midi-dialog 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 2( after i removed that the error was gone. but i have a new one: logik 25 1 16 1 (trigger-prepend) connection failed this only apperars when i load pd in nogui. Am 2008-06-12 um 01:18 schrieb Max Neupert: hi list, (using Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1-macosx104-powerpc.dmg) on 10.4, PPC i use a shell script to startup pd for an installation. it looks something like this: ---shell script- /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -path / Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/hardware -path / Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/flatspace - path /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemlib - path /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/mapping - path /clarafrancesco -lib mapping -lib iemlib -lib hardware -lib flatspace -r 48000 -listdev -nomidiin -midioutdev 1 -noadc - outchannels 2 -nogui -noprefs /clarafrancesco/CLARAFRANCESCO.pd --end--- but later in the terminal it seems i can't open the midi port. --Terminal output-- 008-06-12 01:10:21.623 pd[4717] CFLog (21): Error loading /Library/ QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/MacOS/Motion: error code 4, error number 0 (Library not loaded: /Library/Frameworks/ Motion.framework/Versions/A/Motion Referenced from: /Library/QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/ MacOS/Motion Reason: image not found) 2008-06-12 01:10:21.737 pd[4717] CFLog (21): Error loading /Library/ QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/MacOS/Motion: error code 4, error number 0 (Library not loaded: /Library/Frameworks/ Motion.framework/Versions/A/Motion Referenced from: /Library/QuickTime/Motion.component/Contents/ MacOS/Motion Reason: image not found) audio input devices: 1. (0)iSight 2. (0)Built-in Audio audio output devices: 1. (0)Built-in Audio API number 4 pd(4717,0xa000ed88) malloc: *** error for object 0x25afbe0: double free pd(4717,0xa000ed88) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in szone_error to debug pd(4717,0xa000ed88) malloc: *** error for object 0x25aff20: double free pd(4717,0xa000ed88) malloc: *** set a breakpoint in szone_error to debug MIDI input devices: 1. MidiPipe Ausgang 1 MIDI output devices: 1. MidiPipe Eingang 1 sys_nmidiin 0, nmidiindev 0 could not open midi output 1 (MidiPipe Eingang 1): PortMidi: `Bad pointer' --End--- the same patch runs fine with midi on the same machine with the GUI. even stranger is that on another machine (Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc1- macosx104-i386.dmg, 10.5, intel) -nogui and midi just works. what could be the cause? m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] VLC rc connection
what's the current status of this? any VLC_control object yet? max Am 2007-12-07 um 01:03 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I cc'ed the list since I think this is of general interest, also, other people can contribute there as well. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pduino problem
hi list, i'm using the arduino object with a diecimila and pduino firmware under pd-extended 0.39 on OS X. when i do [import flatspace] and then [arduino] i get [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] compiled on Oct 20 2007 at 05:10:25 compiled against Pd version 0.39.3 [import] loaded library: flatspace comport - PD external for unix/windows LGPL 1998-2006, Winfried Ritsch and others (see LICENCE.txt) Institute for Electronic Music - Graz [comport] opened serial line device 0 (/dev/tty.Bluetooth-Modem) moocow/string2any 32 -1 ... couldn't create [arduino]: version_0.4 then i open port 5 with [open 5( it reconnects: [comport] closed /dev/tty.Bluetooth-Modem [comport] opened serial line device 5 (/dev/tty.usbserial-A6004nvF) but on [version( i only get this instead of the version: UNKNOWN_INPUT_COMMAND: 6 0 also i noticed that there is no more arduino help in the browser/ examples/hardware directory. why is that? PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] netpd broken?
BAD BOY! but thanks for fixing it. Am 2008-06-01 um 19:59 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Hmm, I think I might have broken the subpatch receive symbols a couple of days ago, which might be the cause of this. I just fixed my mistake, so tomorrow, they should work again. .hc On Jun 1, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Luke Iannini wrote: Yo, I can confirm it with a day-or-two-old Pd-Extended autobuild. I did some playing with this, and if you cut and paste the [pd 1-subsub] object it will start receiving messages like normal. So, it seems that dynamically created subpatches don't get a receiver... A possible workaround for this would be to do a dynamic-cut-and-paste as described in the pd-msg reference, to possibly force a proper creation, but that is a pretty massive hack (and I didn't try it). Also, the use of dynamically created subpatches as a way around the no-dynamic-delete issue is great, I hadn't thought of it. Too bad it is broken : (. As a member of the Church of Dynamic Patching I think it should be added to the reference as an Offical Technique. Cheers Luke On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Enrique Erne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can open netpd, log in, chat... but as soon as i open creator i get error: pd-cr.singletons: no such object and a empty windows pops up: pd cr.singletons (no dash) netloading a netpd patch doens't work now i got it to. just tried it with: Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080531-macosx105-i386 it seems that some dynamic patching tricks are broken. attached example isn't working anymore :(. it creates the container subpatches but can't create the abstraction inside. could somebody confirm that? eni #N canvas 386 22 527 592 10; #N canvas 17 28 355 263 sub 0; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 1-subsub 0; #X restore 10 20 pd 1-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 2-subsub 0; #X restore 10 40 pd 2-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 3-subsub 0; #X restore 10 60 pd 3-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 11-subsub 0; #X restore 10 220 pd 11-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 15-subsub 0; #X restore 10 300 pd 15-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 19-subsub 0; #X restore 10 380 pd 19-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 24-subsub 0; #X restore 10 480 pd 24-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 25-subsub 0; #X restore 10 500 pd 25-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 29-subsub 0; #X restore 10 580 pd 29-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 32-subsub 0; #X restore 10 640 pd 32-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 33-subsub 0; #X restore 10 660 pd 33-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 34-subsub 0; #X restore 10 680 pd 34-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 40-subsub 0; #X restore 10 800 pd 40-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 51-subsub 0; #X restore 10 1020 pd 51-subsub; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 1-subsub 0; #X restore 10 20 pd 1-subsub; #X restore 21 22 pd sub; #X msg 24 392 \; pd-sub clear; #X msg 24 233 \; pd-sub loadbang; #X floatatom 24 79 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 52 136 * 20; #X obj 24 96 t f f f; #X obj 24 116 makefilename pd-%d-subsub; #X obj 24 156 pack s f f; #X obj 24 325 makefilename pd-%d-subsub; #X msg 24 347 \; \$1 clear; #X floatatom 24 306 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 79 22 add and remove abstractions; #X msg 21 53 1; #X msg 61 53 2; #X msg 97 53 3; #X text 149 53 a) create some subsubpatches and abstractions; #X text 148 237 b) if your abstractions use loadbang you have to do that manually; #X msg 24 283 1; #X msg 64 283 2; #X msg 100 283 3; #X text 142 398 (clear pd-sub before saving this patch); #X text 145 282 c) clear subsubpatch where your abstractions are; #X text 23 506 e) if your abstraction does signal processing you need to rebuild the dsptree. you could do so by either turn off/on [pd dsp 0 \, pd dsp 1( or dynamically create an other ~-object in a subpatch and clear it again.; #X text 25 439 d) if your abstraction has a gui inside that you want to open sepparately \, use either namecanvas or put the gui in an subpatch [pd \$1-something] and use an arguemnt as id to refenrence the subpatch. ; #X msg 24 176 \; pd-sub obj 10 \$2 pd \$3-subsub \; \$1 obj 10 10 my-abstraction \$3; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 7 1; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 5 1 4 0; #X connect 5 2 7 2; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 24 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 10 0 8 0; #X connect 12 0 3 0; #X connect 13 0 3 0; #X connect 14 0 3 0; #X connect 17 0 10 0; #X connect 18 0 10 0; #X connect 19 0 10 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] netpd broken?
Am 2008-05-29 um 23:54 schrieb Roman Haefeli: just a little remark (you might know it already): [declare -*path] works locally in the sense, that pathes are added only for the patch, that holds the [declare]. for testing the netpd stuff, it really only works, if you try it within the _chat.pd patch. remark2 (probably even better known): when adding a [declare], save the patch, close and reopen it in order to test whether the [declare] really works. instantiating a [declare] does _not_ immediately add pathes. check, whether all the netpd stuff is really there. is there a netpd/includes/netpd-f.pd and netpd/includes/creator.pd ? if so, it is very strange, that you weren't able to create those even after adding the path to netpd/includes to your settings. i don't have any explanation for that. actually i wasn't aware of that, thanks for the clarification, now the helpfile od declare makes sense suddenly. set environment only for the opening patch might be clearer. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] netpd broken?
Am 2008-05-29 um 19:58 schrieb Enrique Erne: Max Neupert wrote: servus roman, list, i wanted to demonstrate netpd today here in melbourne and failed. on a intel mac os x 10.5: with a fresh pd-extended 0.4xx and downloaded netpd.zip i can open _chat.pd. then when i click on creator additionally a blank patch pops up called pd cr.singletons the console spills out: netclient ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'connect' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: pd-cr.singletons: no such object hi max which exact version have u tried? have u removed the ~Library/Preferences/org.puredata.pd.plist before you run the newest pd-extended? this versions have been working more or less: on intel osx 10.5 Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080222 Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080504 Pd-0.40.3-extended-20080516 Pd-extended (20080523) some problem with ~ and a new one with matrix (only working as iemmatrix/matrix). now i tried pd-netpd-osx.tar.gz from http://netpd.org/download and it worked surprisingly well. ~, matrix, t3_del all creates fine.. i suggest to try this one too. hi eni, the exact version i have here is 0.40.3-extended-20080528 on 10.4 osx. the netpd is the current one. i can open netpd, log in, chat... but as soon as i open creator i get error: pd-cr.singletons: no such object and a empty windows pops up: pd cr.singletons (no dash) netloading a netpd patch doens't work m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd not starting on winXP
looks to me like a firewall issue. pd are two processes communicating which each other. try again with disabled firewall to find out if that's the cause and report back. m Am 2008-05-30 um 21:27 schrieb Enrico Costanza: Hello. I have pd 0.39-3 extended installed on my machine, but it does not run. If I try to launch pd.exe I can see the process in the task manager, but nothing happens. If I try to launch on the command prompt pd -verbose -d 5 -stderr I get the following: input channels = 2, output channels = 2 set pd_whichapi 0 set pd_whichmidiapi 3 Pd version 0.39-3extended compiled 06:04:42 Oct 16 2007 port 5400 Waiting for connection request... and it stops there. I tried reinstalling with no luck. I also tried the 0.41 version but I always got the same. Any suggestions? I could not find anything on the web that seemed related. Thanks, Enrico ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] netpd broken?
servus roman, list, i wanted to demonstrate netpd today here in melbourne and failed. on a intel mac os x 10.5: with a fresh pd-extended 0.4xx and downloaded netpd.zip i can open _chat.pd. then when i click on creator additionally a blank patch pops up called pd cr.singletons the console spills out: netclient ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'connect' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: pd-cr.singletons: no such object i can reproduce the same on my own machine os x 10.4 ppc. also there is a small documentation bug: it reads: START netpd - start pd and open _chat.pd - click the 'settings'-bang - set your name - click the 'save and close'-bang - talk to other netpd-people and start a session there is no 'settings-bang, it's called 'pref' and doesn't look like a bang. inside is a 'saveclose' button. suggestion: - hit the 'pref'-button to set your preferences - set your name - hit 'saveclose' ciao, max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] netpd broken?
Am 2008-05-29 um 19:54 schrieb Roman Haefeli: On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 19:27 +1000, Max Neupert wrote: servus roman, list, i wanted to demonstrate netpd today here in melbourne and failed. on a intel mac os x 10.5: with a fresh pd-extended 0.4xx and downloaded netpd.zip i can open _chat.pd. then when i click on creator additionally a blank patch pops up called pd cr.singletons the console spills out: netclient ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected '' but got 'connect' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: pd-cr.singletons: no such object i can reproduce the same on my own machine os x 10.4 ppc. [netclient] is part of maxlib. afaik, it should be found in extra/maxlib. netpd/_chat.pd has a [declare] in order to add the path of the maxlib folder. if it doesn't load, either [declare] on those versions of pd-extended are broken or netclient was moved. i'll have a look at that soon. probably it is just a matter of using an appropriate [declare]. ok, with [import maxlib] i could make the netclient object. but the rest of the problem is still there: when i open the creator an empty patch pops up called pd cr.singletons and creator doesn't work properly. i think it is probably that i need to declare the include direcory.. i'll give it a try and report my findings. roman, i don't wanna distract you --- good luck with your presentation! it's not so urgent. winterly greetings from australia max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Netiquette (Was: Someone wants to program this?)
Am 2008-05-22 um 18:30 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Sending Word/OO-documents to public mailing lists still is bad practice and should be discouraged. Yes. also sending 8 MB attachments is not really a good idea. i added a paragraph “Attachments” in the Natiquette: http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette btw, on this page: http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list the link to http://puredata.info/community/lists/netiquette should be changed to http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] motor control interfacing
hi list, i want to control two motors (pantilt). i looked into several options and this seems a good start: http://www.ladyada.net/make/mshield/ together with the arduino. i need a very smooth movement, so steppers from floppy drives seem a good option. has anyone tried the motor shield? other suggestions? max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] UI developer volunteering to help
Am 06.05.2008 um 20:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Pd definitely needs text, text is a great, flexible symbol system for representing a massive array of words. But I also think that some iconic objects would be nice, like jMax's trigger or Max/MSP's gate. there is another vital thing missing in the core: a knob. http://footils.org/cms/show/20 we've got button (=bang), switch (=toggle), radio-button and slider as representations of real life input methods on a synth, mixer or whatever electronic instrument. there is no reason why exactly the knob should be left out. PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] http, html and textfiles
i'm having a déja-vu. check the thread in the archive: Subject: Retrieving Text form a URL | Webpage Am 29.04.2008 um 01:33 schrieb wolfgang schwarzenbrunner: hello, i am working on a little project in which websites are going to be parsed. well. i thought this might be a nice thing using the regex object from zexy... the only problem i am facing right now is that i have no idea how i could get a html file on my harddisk using pd (something like a http browsing object)... any suggestions? best wolfgang ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] contextual pdpedia menu link
Am 26.04.2008 um 19:16 schrieb Luke Iannini (pd): Great that you got minimize working! I've tried to find the Cmd-` blocker before as well, but I couldn't find any references to it on Tk mailing lists etc. just keep in mind that it's a keyboard layout specific shortcut (switching between windows of the same application) with a german keyboard layout for example it's Cmd- and Cmd- because the is the key right from the left shift key. m ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM- simple img texturing into a circle
[disk] will give you this kind of bagel shape. Am 25.03.2008 um 16:49 schrieb Oded Ben-Tal: Hello all, I am trying to do something which should be fairly easy: I am trying to see a circle that let's through an image that is behind it. (As if through a telescope...) Why not render the picture on a square/rectangle, and put a 'hole' in front of it (for instance a cylinder: make it very wide, thick, and short. rotate 90 degrees so we are looking 'throught' it). moving the picture your 'hole' in coordinated fashion back and forth could create a telescope like effect, no? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux sounds better than Windows!
damn my new computer with RoHS certified brazing solder sounds so much better. prosit, max Am 08.03.2008 um 09:49 schrieb sven: i have speaker cables made of pure gold. i know what i'm talking about. cheers, sven. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Workshop with Derek Holzer and Frank Barknecht 2.-6.4.2008 in Halle, Germany
) and others. Am 03.02.2008 um 04:20 schrieb Max Neupert: Pd-Workshop with Derek Holzer and Frank Barknecht in Halle(Saale)/ Germany Academy of Fine Arts and Design Burg Giebichenstein in conjunction with Werkleitz Association will organize a Pure Data Workshop from the 2nd to the 6th of April 2008 First half of the Workshop will be held by Derek Holzer in English, the second part will be held in German by Frank Barknecht. Details in german: Pure Data – visuelles Programmieren für Künstler Dozenten Frank Barknecht (Medienkünstler, Musiker und Autor, Köln) Derek Holzer (Medienkünstler, Berlin) Inhalt Ursprünglich für die Komposition elektronischer Musik gedacht, ist Pure Data zu einem Werkzeug geworden, mit dem sich unterschiedlichste mediale Projekte verwirklichen lassen - von interaktiven Installationen bis zu audiovisuellen Performances. Pure Data folgt der Logik des Verkabelns und ist eine gerade bei KünstlerInnen beliebte Programmierumgebung. Die visuelle, datenstromorientierte Struktur erlaubt es, auch ohne Informatik-Kenntnisse komplexe Programme zu entwickeln. Pure Data ist das quelloffene und freie Pendant zur kommerziell vertriebenen Software MAX/MSP. Der Workshop findet in Kooperation mit dem Fachgebiet Medienkunst der Burg Giebichenstein Hochschule für Kunst und Design im sogenannten Gärtnerhaus, Seebener Str. 2 statt. Termine Einführung: 70 EUR, ermäßigt: 50 EUR Fortgeschrittene: 80 EUR, ermäßigt: 60 EUR beide Kurse zusammen 120 EUR, ermäßigt: 90 EUR Anzahl der TeilnehmerInnen 5 (+ 15 StudentInnen der Hochschule) Kosten (für nicht an der Hochschule Burg Giebichenstein immatrikulierte): kompletter kurs: 120 EUR, ermäßigt: 90 EUR Unterkunft in Halle kann organisiert werden. http://werkleitz.de/html_de/w_medienkunst_pure_data.html http://www.puredata.org ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] interface wishlist
to add to this list: - remove strange error message when you ctl-W the pd-window (it should say “really quit?” instead) - make a proper library preference pane Am 17.02.2008 um 19:08 schrieb Roman Haefeli: hi tim, marius and list nice proposals! before all whatsoever new cool features, i would rather like to see those improvements implemented. no matter how long it takes to implement them, it would be nice to see them on the todo list. roman On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 12:43 -0500, marius schebella wrote: Hi, this list is great! I would like to add the one again that I posted yesterday (sorry for double posting, but this thread subject is better) - when only one object is selected and you start typing (any other than arrows) it should be possible to write into the object without an additional click into the object. I often use ctrl+d to duplicate an object and then arrow keys to place it on the canvas, and then I would like to just start typing into the object. - when there is more than one object selected and I click into one object, but do not drag, then that object could switch to type-entry mode. right now I have to unselect all objects by clicking into the canvas and then click into the box to start text entry. - exiting entry mode with enter would actually be nice, too. (for messages cr could be shift+enter (the cr is overwritten anyway). - more actions could be triggered by keyboard shortcuts? - the alt click and drag function. you click on an object and as soon as you start dragging that object is duplicated, but at the same time you already have the new object at the cursor position and can place it fast at a new spot. I want to point out that in many cases this would mean different behaviour between clicking, and clicking+dragging. plus new: keyboardshortcuts to bring the pd window to the front (to watch console output. - and also change the cursor to arrow when you hit the command key to imply that clicking on messages or numbers has different behaviour (play mode) when you hit apple (or ctrl on win/lin?). marius. tim wrote: Hello, here's my current Pd GUI wishlist, things that could streamline my work flow, things that don't seem logical to me...etc: I wish: -going in and out of edit mode was reflected by the cursor turning into a hand or arrow immediately, not requiring the user to move it first, who, if newbie, can get confused if he/she hasn't moved the mouse. (this is the case on some versions I use in class, specifically pd-extended OSX I think) -shift-click-and-drag on a number box would also work after you already clicked. Another idea: ctrl-click-drag to increment in steps of 10 or 100. -home, end, shift+left/right, ctrl+left/right, ctrl+shift+left/right would work within object boxes just like in a text editor. -click+drag a single object or messagebox wouldn't automatically activate text entry mode but the object itself stays the selection, so that you can move it again or use arrow keys for repositioning without having to deselect+reselect first. -for a multiple connections facility, to connect all outlets of object a to all inlets of object b, and variations on that. (I think max has had this for a while, and maybe desiredata ?). -'subpatcherize' -that when deleting all text in a comment and clicking outside it, the comment would be deleted, so that if you save the patch, close it, and reopen it, there doesn't appear the word 'comment' everywhere you left a 'blank' comment this way. Alternatively it could become 'comment' upon finalizing an empty comment, so that you can still see, select and delete it. -the file browser (openpanel/savepanel) would support keystrokes to navigate: alt+up one dir up, tab to toggle focus between text entry and graphical area (where folders and files are displayed)...etc -opening the filebrowser wouldn't cause the Pd main window to pop in front of all the patcher windows after it is closed. -one object could be finalized by clicking the outlet of another object, so that you can immediately connect it. The extra click outside the object to finalize it first is unnecessary. When I click the outlet of another object, it is obvious that I am done typing the name of the current one. Tim ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and
Re: [PD] table feedback tutorial
beautiful! i like opening the table window(s) and watching and playing with the forms and sounds. its like an electric arc. fascinating. m Am 08.02.2008 um 20:15 schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen: Hi all, I wrote a tutorial on using [table] [tabwrite~] [tabosc4~] in feedback loops: https://devel.goto10.org/dl.php?repname=maximuspath=%2Ftutorials% 2Ftable-feedback%2Frev=0isdir=1 File listing, to get a flavour of what's covered: 01_Introduction.pd 02_A_Simple_Loop.pd 03_Sample_Rate_Dependence.pd 04_Sample_Rate_Independence.pd 05_Blocks_And_Phase.pd 06_Decoupling.pd 07_Windowing.pd 08_Normalizing.pd 09_Double_Buffering.pd 10_Example_Organ.pd 11_Example_Sparkles.pd 12_Conclusion.pd Hope someone finds it useful, all feedback appreciated (sorry for the pun, heh). Thanks, Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Pure data Workshop with D erek Holzer and Frank Barknecht 2.-6.4.2008 in Hal le, Germany Pd-Workshop with Derek Holzer and Frank B arknecht in Halle(Saale)/Germany Academy of Fine
Pd-Workshop with Derek Holzer and Frank Barknecht in Halle(Saale)/ Germany Academy of Fine Arts and Design Burg Giebichenstein in conjunction with Werkleitz Association will organize a Pure Data Workshop from the 2nd to the 6th of April 2008 First half of the Workshop will be held by Derek Holzer in English, the second part will be held in German by Frank Barknecht. Details in german: Pure Data – visuelles Programmieren für Künstler Dozenten Frank Barknecht (Medienkünstler, Musiker und Autor, Köln) Derek Holzer (Medienkünstler, Berlin) Inhalt Ursprünglich für die Komposition elektronischer Musik gedacht, ist Pure Data zu einem Werkzeug geworden, mit dem sich unterschiedlichste mediale Projekte verwirklichen lassen - von interaktiven Installationen bis zu audiovisuellen Performances. Pure Data folgt der Logik des Verkabelns und ist eine gerade bei KünstlerInnen beliebte Programmierumgebung. Die visuelle, datenstromorientierte Struktur erlaubt es, auch ohne Informatik-Kenntnisse komplexe Programme zu entwickeln. Pure Data ist das quelloffene und freie Pendant zur kommerziell vertriebenen Software MAX/MSP. Der Workshop findet in Kooperation mit dem Fachgebiet Medienkunst der Burg Giebichenstein Hochschule für Kunst und Design im sogenannten Gärtnerhaus, Seebener Str. 2 statt. Termine Einführung: 70 EUR, ermäßigt: 50 EUR Fortgeschrittene: 80 EUR, ermäßigt: 60 EUR beide Kurse zusammen 120 EUR, ermäßigt: 90 EUR Anzahl der TeilnehmerInnen 5 (+ 15 StudentInnen der Hochschule) Kosten (für nicht an der Hochschule Burg Giebichenstein immatrikulierte): kompletter kurs: 120 EUR, ermäßigt: 90 EUR Unterkunft in Halle kann organisiert werden. http://werkleitz.de/html_de/w_medienkunst_pure_data.html http://www.puredata.org ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Stuttgart Friday (25th)
hi list, trying to pass this message to the list, but it keeps beeing filtered by spam assassin :( again: i'm perfoming with johannes krause in stuttgart. theater rampe with (net)-pd begins 22h. see you. max infos here: http://www.maxneupert.de/ ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] netpd on pd-extended
it would be nice to have netpd (_chat.pd) starting from the pd- extended menue! but i guess there are some security issues. m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM : GLSL Mixer - working 2 channel video mixer example
very interesting, but also a good example on how to lock the computer completely with gem - at least my old powerbook. i had to hard reset because complete unresponsiveness. with [frame 10( it runs nicely though. see my last post on how to avoid the lock-up. max Am 24.12.2007 um 21:35 schrieb vade: Yes, very efficient, and also give you LOTS of flexibility . the regular GL_BLEND_MODES do not offer that many variations (not many are useful for video). Want to make a GPU powered chroma key - shader. Want to make feedback but have FSAA on, probably shader :) etc etc. Want to make 4 way mixer? shader! See where I am going here? :) On Dec 24, 2007, at 3:29 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Nice, works for me. Is the idea that shaders are a efficient way of mixing video? .hc On Dec 24, 2007, at 12:04 PM, vade wrote: Hello Here is a 2 channel mixer using overlay blend mode with GLSL. This works, is decently fast and gives me the expected result. If you want more blend modes, feel free to grab them from http:// 001.vade.info (or elsewhere, most are trivial to figure out)- the glsl shaders for the mixers use the same subroutine layout in the glsl, so it is trivial to swap. I did not include them out of sheer laziness. Caveats with PD 0.4.03 Extended nightly from Dec 24th (Mac OS X 10.5.1, QT 7.3, Intel): - had to edit the GLSL program to fix multitexture coordinate issue. Only can use the texture dims from the zeroths texture unit. - could not get sampler2DRect working at all - only had a single texel mapped it seemed. - had weird issue where I would sometimes have to close the gemwin (0, destroy) and then re create it to see the textures assigned to texture units. this happened most often after closing and re-opening the patch. Please see the included question(s) within the PD patch concerning using framebuffer to grab the output of the rendered shader and send it to yet another shader. Ive included an exposure shader in an attempt to make a chain of GLSL effects. I however could not get gemframebuffer to output any usable texture after using glslprogram. Thanks, hope this is helpful to those out there FUDDLE DUDDLE [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]()[EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM : GLSL Mixer - working 2 channel video mixer example
Am 25.12.2007 um 20:53 schrieb vade: What is the proper way of handing this in PD/GEM? Sorry for causing a crash. I saw your PD Jitter patch, but frankly I think some drop frame system should be built into GEM to handle this automatically. maybe, i guess it's arguably if that's a feature or a bug. or like matju described it recently: its more convenient just to call it a feature. Anyway, what kind of powerbook? It may not have the required hardware support for the shader, which might be why you are only getting 10fps, via software fallback? no i don't think it's software fallback, it's just slow. PB 15 G4 1.67 GHz, 1.5 GB RAM, ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 AGP 128 MB ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM : GLSL Mixer - working 2 channel video mixer example
Am 26.12.2007 um 00:06 schrieb Claude Heiland-Allen: cyrille henry wrote: i think gem sheduling is just like using a metro with jitter. (but no qmetro) In my experience Gem scheduling is exactly in sync with Pd's (logical) clock, measured with [timer] I always get 40ms when running at 48000Hz audio, 25fps gemwin, with 60fps screen refresh rate. yes its in sync with the logical clock, see the patch i posted. but realtime gives an enormous jitter and lag so the logical time gets off pretty fast compared to it. m ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM : GLSL Mixer - working 2 channel video mixer example
Am 25.12.2007 um 23:56 schrieb cyrille henry: of course, nothing should crash, just slow down the system. it doesn't crash, but it takes all cpu and there is no other way out than making a hard reset (i tried everything exept maybe term though ssh from a different computer). m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem codec basic review
hi andrew, list, here is a test patch which shows quite some jitter. but jpeg compression and uncompressed alike. i'd like to hear from some gem pros what they think on how to minimize the jitter. also i wonder why the movie loops not always in the same speed - do i need a realtimemetro? btw. this patch can be used to reduce the gem framerate automatically if the rendering is slower than the framrerate to avoid gem locking up the computer (thanks sven for that hint). GEMvariable_framerate.pd Description: Binary data Am 03.12.2007 um 08:11 schrieb Andrew Brouse: Hi Max, JPEG decompression should be very fast on any modern CPU, it is however possible that at those frame sizes and 30 FPS, you may be seeing some jitter. If you are at 30 FPS, try reducing it to 15 or even 10 FPS and see what happens. cheers, Andrew -- On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Max Neupert wrote: Am 02.12.2007 um 16:35 schrieb Andrew Brouse: If you want to do any scrubbing, varispeed or playing backwards of the video, you need a CODEC which does not use temporal compression. Photo-JPEG is in fact a very good choice in this case and if compressed at 320 X 240 you get a good balance of file-size, picture quality and processor load. JPEG 2000 should also be a good choice (supported by QuickTime and there are libraries which support it on Linux but not sure if it will play in GEM). hi andrew, i wonder if the photo-jpeg compression does introduce a jitter in the decoding speed depending on the complexity of the content. gem would need a different time to decode each time a different frame is called. i am working now with 1024x768 video compressed with 75% quality photojpeg and sometimes see lags in the decoding.. but maybe it's just my imagination. max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] symbolatom: why does it not allow to type spaces?
if the situation with the symbolatom doesn't change i'd like to make a workaround where preferably [entry] is used, but if not available it will fall back to the symbol atom. is it possible to detect somehow if entry is loaded sucessfuly? max Am 11.12.2007 um 04:09 schrieb Chris McCormick: On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:25:56PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: before i change my policy about using externals in netpd, i would like to ask (probably miller?), if there is a chance, that symbolatom is changed accordingly in the future? When I asked about spaces in symbols on the pd-dev list Miller's reply was: 1. spaces in symbols are a parsing/formatting problem, not a data type problem. So that would indicate that he sees it as a problem that must be fixed. Be good if someone could submit a nice clean patch to fix the parsing problem and see if he accepts it. Another similar reply to the issue of symbol table saturation was 2. use arrays as strings as I proposed; which isn't currently possible in your use-case because the symbol input box itself won't let you input spaces to even get them into an array. Best, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gridflow for expert people ?
Am 10.12.2007 um 02:13 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard: Note) On MacOS the dot-files are invisible in the Finder : are you sure ? Is there a Finder option to show dot-files? There's one on Linux. in the terminal type: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles 1 then restart the finder and it will display all the hidden files too. another neat thing i discovered some days ago is if you naviagte in the terminal to a hidden folder and use the open command it will open the unvisible folder in the finder (try open /bin ) PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] segmented patchcords (was Re: PD MAX)
i read your mail as a pledge for a bounty system - is that right? Am 06.12.2007 um 20:08 schrieb Kyle Klipowicz: And this is precisely the unfortunate reason why the open source world will (almost) always lag behind the commercial world of consumer software. When developers make their bread and butter based upon if the consumer buys, they're more likely to pay attention to and implement the wishes of their users. Take Ableton. They actively parse their online forums for feature requests...and then implement them when a critical mass is reached. There are some exceptions in the FOSS world. Ubuntu is quite user friendly (with the support of a large endowment from a very wealthy organization with a charter specifically devoted to bringing Linux to the non-programmer set of the world). Firefox is giving IE a run for it's money (although the primary codebase from FF comes from the old commercial, closed source Netscape). I know that Hans' statement re everyone becoming a developer is true in theory, but in reality people who want to rapidly prototype a project with something like Pd or Max are using these applications precisely because they do not want to code in C. After reading Marius' post re GEM vs. Jitter, it is painfully apparent that the capitalist/consumer model of software engineering has a few aspects to it that are difficult for the FOSS community to compete with. Namely monetary and human resources and the external pressure to meet the requests of the user in order to ensure a continuous flow of financial support. When you code for a hobby or yourself, it is difficult or even impossible to be bothered with these things, and rightly so. Without compensation, there's often little scope (or time) outside one's own projects for developers in the FOSS world. This is unfortunate, but as I see it, true. Question is, what can be done to change this or compete? Or should Pd just become the thing that hobbyist programmers use, while Max takes the stage as the serious tool for rapidly prototyping interactive A/V artworks? I hope that this is not the case... No flames meant in this mail, just compassionate thought-mulling. ~Kyle On Dec 6, 2007 1:21 AM, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's exactly the point: From this thread it seems that many of those people who would be able to implement segmented patchcords aren't interested in that feature. (You'd be one of the exceptions.) So until someone comes along who wants seg-cords in Pd and at the same time could write the code, the feature stays missing. That's not unusual wiht open source software: features, the developers need, get implemented faster, others maybe never. -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone
also cmd-t or apple-t is now suddenly the font bomb instead of the text editor why is that? Am 04.12.2007 um 11:01 schrieb tim: Hi, Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20071116, ubuntu 2.6.17-10: Control-clicking gui objects in Edit mode no longer lets you manipulate them, but instead it just opens the context menu. (like it would on a Mac ?). Personally I prefer the old control-click-in-edit-mode functionality. thanks, Tim PS: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/ seems to be down at the moment ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI Rotary Dial
no idea what pictctrl is but are you talking about a knob? http://footils.org/cms/show/20 also in pd-extended max Am 04.12.2007 um 10:43 schrieb Alex Lucas: Hello everyone, Is there a gui rotary dial for pd or an object similar to pictctrl for Max/MSP. If not where would a newbie need to start in order to create an external which does this. Many thanks Alex ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone
Am 04.12.2007 um 13:55 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, Max Neupert hat gesagt: // Max Neupert wrote: also cmd-t or apple-t is now suddenly the font bomb instead of the text editor why is that? IIRC Hans changed that in pd-ext. to follow Apple's OS-X GUI guidelines instead of Pd's unwritten crossplatform GUI guidelines. i see. but in the menue still says: ^T for Text Editor and nothing for the Font Bomb. i think like this it's more confusing than a non-conformity to os-x gui guidelines. also it would be nice to have the text editor available as a key command because this is the workaround for pd's more than imperfect copy and paste capabilities. max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] control-click in edit mode is gone
Am 04.12.2007 um 18:18 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: My intention is to fix Pd to allow direct copy and pasting in object boxes so we can ditch the Text Editor all together. dreams come true! thanks. ps: xmas is approaching, maybe we should start a wishlist. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] I just made a beginner's PD tutorial and posted it...
my first thought: cmd-D instead of copy paste. Am 03.12.2007 um 08:09 schrieb Vreahli the Audio Bandit: Heya - I just made a PD tutorial for beginners and I was wondering if anyone wanted to do a sanity check... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkmMzqohsDo In any case - I'm thinking about doing a series... Any ideas for topics / projects that would be good for beginners? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem codec basic review
Am 02.12.2007 um 16:35 schrieb Andrew Brouse: If you want to do any scrubbing, varispeed or playing backwards of the video, you need a CODEC which does not use temporal compression. Photo-JPEG is in fact a very good choice in this case and if compressed at 320 X 240 you get a good balance of file-size, picture quality and processor load. JPEG 2000 should also be a good choice (supported by QuickTime and there are libraries which support it on Linux but not sure if it will play in GEM). hi andrew, i wonder if the photo-jpeg compression does introduce a jitter in the decoding speed depending on the complexity of the content. gem would need a different time to decode each time a different frame is called. i am working now with 1024x768 video compressed with 75% quality photojpeg and sometimes see lags in the decoding.. but maybe it's just my imagination. max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] no more audio since os 10.4.11
hi list, i have no more audio in pd since the os update to mac os 10.4.11 - at least that's the only thing i changed and i figured this must be the reason. this is on vanilla or extended. on the other hand there is no audio related change in the os update: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306297 anyone experiencing the same problem? if not what else could it possibly be? max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] no more audio since os 10.4.11
solved: there was some -noaudio flag hidden in the .plist which i couldn't see from the gui. strange. Am 25.11.2007 um 22:50 schrieb Max Neupert: hi list, i have no more audio in pd since the os update to mac os 10.4.11 - at least that's the only thing i changed and i figured this must be the reason. this is on vanilla or extended. on the other hand there is no audio related change in the os update: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306297 anyone experiencing the same problem? if not what else could it possibly be? max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] minimize mac
(my) pd windows have a yellow minimize (minus) button in its window bar. but pd uses the minimize command (Apple + M) for the message window instead, so there is no shortcut for it AFAIK sometimes there are no scroll-bars allthough there should be. but that gets resorted as soon as one resizes the window a bit. Am 02.11.2007 um 11:38 schrieb Hans Roels: hello, I am used to a windows computer but I have to work on Mac (OS X 10.3.9) with PD-vanilla (40.2) installed. Often I can't scroll to the bottom of a big pd-patch, what is the trick to see every part of a patch in Mac? can you minimize or maximize the windows in PD on Mac? I tried command + M and these kind of tricks but nothing works, PD also doensn't have a - or + button in the title bar to minimize/maximize the window. I guess there must be a special Mac-trick to solve this... it's very annoying now! hans r ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [bang]--clickable but bypass when indirect
i don't think this is possible. a workaround would be to change the color of the bang for 250 ms so the whole thing is black if a hit gets detected. [color 22 0 0( | [t a b] | | | [delay 250] | | | [color 0 22 0( | / | / [bng] Am 31.10.2007 um 15:10 schrieb robbert van hulzen: hi there dear list people, a little while ago, andy mentioned a construction for bypassing gui objects (numberboxes, in that case) while at the same time using the info you may put in them with the mouse. i can't find the post anymore, but i think that's exactly what i need now. i'm making an abstraction for my midi controller (drum pad thingy), that should both show what comes in--ie bang the nicely coloured [bang]s when the pad with the corresponding notenumber is hit--and function as an onscreen replacement: when a [bang] is clicked, it should send it out. in other words, i'm looking for a way to have incoming info stop at the [bang] (as it'll come out directly), but info generated at the [bang] move on. hope i make myself clear... anyone have any idea? thanks a lot! cheers, robbert ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Set as maximum value of a number box, another number
Am 29.10.2007 um 22:40 schrieb Javier Garcia: hi, I would like to set as maximum value of a number box, the number of the frames of a movie. You know, for example [pdp_qt] sends the number of the frames of the video you open. Is it possible? use the IEM [nbx] and send [range 5 50( to it to set it's range from 5 to 50. m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?
good to know. now i have something what i can recommend to my windows friends. http://www.midiox.com/index.htm Am 27.10.2007 um 02:28 schrieb Matthew Logan: ArduinoPdMIDI YokeLive. I'm on Windows and that's what I use. On 10/26/07, Max Neupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whoops, i forgot you're on windows - i'm sorry (for the noise). Am 26.10.2007 um 20:23 schrieb Max Neupert: you're thinking too complicated. just use arduino - Pd - MIDI - Live very simple. Am 26.10.2007 um 14:53 schrieb Enrique Tomas: Hi amigos I have a question. I would like to control an Ableton Live version 6 session using my Arduino based interface (under Windows ) . My project is controlling Live with an Arduino. Because Ableton Live doesn't have OSC...(and liveapi.org is down) I think that the only way to do that is ReWire. I have tried to configure Pd in Ableton Live ReWire settings but I can't see Pd as an available input. ReWire is configured because I can see other software as Cubase, Reason, etc. Does anyone have an idea about how to do this? Is there any other option? thanks Qq ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?
you're thinking too complicated. just use arduino - Pd - MIDI - Live very simple. Am 26.10.2007 um 14:53 schrieb Enrique Tomas: Hi amigos I have a question. I would like to control an Ableton Live version 6 session using my Arduino based interface (under Windows ) . My project is controlling Live with an Arduino. Because Ableton Live doesn't have OSC...(and liveapi.org is down) I think that the only way to do that is ReWire. I have tried to configure Pd in Ableton Live ReWire settings but I can't see Pd as an available input. ReWire is configured because I can see other software as Cubase, Reason, etc. Does anyone have an idea about how to do this? Is there any other option? thanks Qq ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Ableton Live control with Pure Data ¿ReWire ?
whoops, i forgot you're on windows - i'm sorry (for the noise). Am 26.10.2007 um 20:23 schrieb Max Neupert: you're thinking too complicated. just use arduino - Pd - MIDI - Live very simple. Am 26.10.2007 um 14:53 schrieb Enrique Tomas: Hi amigos I have a question. I would like to control an Ableton Live version 6 session using my Arduino based interface (under Windows ) . My project is controlling Live with an Arduino. Because Ableton Live doesn't have OSC...(and liveapi.org is down) I think that the only way to do that is ReWire. I have tried to configure Pd in Ableton Live ReWire settings but I can't see Pd as an available input. ReWire is configured because I can see other software as Cubase, Reason, etc. Does anyone have an idea about how to do this? Is there any other option? thanks Qq ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 2D pad
Am 24.10.2007 um 15:35 schrieb Robert Scott: Hi, What do most people do when they need a simple 2D slider, or 'xy pad'? or just have a look in the helpfile of [cnv] there is a very simple one, allthough you have to switch to edit mode. max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] repertory for amateurs
hi, at a workshop frank and me gave we had a participant, who is a music teacher. he has some interesting java applets and pd patches on his site (in german) http://wolfgang-fulda.de/ max. Am 23.10.2007 um 02:06 schrieb Andy Farnell: Hans, feel free to pick apart or use/share anything you find on these pages for your teaching. http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/music/musictuts.html http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/html/compositions/compositions.html On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:20:58 +0100 Hans Roels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am teaching electronic music to a group of teenagers (minimum age 15 years)in a music school in Belgium and I mainly use PD for this. We play improvisations and I write some pieces but i am also looking for compositions that I can use. So these are my two questions: - Has anybody made some pieces with electronics that I could use? or do you know pieces like this? I guess there are some composers in this list. If there are parts for acoustic instruments, these can't be too difficult (most of these teenagers have been playing an instrument since they were 9 years old). No Ferneyhough pieces please :) - If anyone would like to make a piece for any combination of instruments and/or electronics (no more than 4 computer performers simultaneously), please do so! Again: if you also want to involve an acoustic instrument, take care that it is playable for an amateur. Let me know if you are interested and I 'll give you some more details. I would like to make a kind of PD repertory project but with live-electronic pieces for amateurs and/or children. The only pieces that I can use at the moment are pieces of Alvin Lucier, Somei Satoh, Daniel Goode,... hans r ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] getting started with graphics
Am 14.10.2007 um 21:43 schrieb Jack: There is also gridflow (only for Windows i think). outch. that must hurt. from http://gridflow.ca/: Required OS (one of...): 1 : Linux (most any variant) (recommended) 2 : FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD 3 : MacOS 10.2 or later (experimental) 4 : Windows with MinGW (very experimental) 5 : Solaris (used to work) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] file access audio glitches
Am 13.10.2007 um 20:06 schrieb Phil Stone: Phil Stone wrote: Does anybody know if ram disks are possible on OS X? To answer my own question about OS X ram disks (GIYF), yes it seem to be possible (though not especially well documented). Since most of my files are pretty small, this might help. a ram disk is quite trivial to do with the disk utility. the question is if it really helps. there was an discussion on this not so long ago: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-07/052503.html m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Syncing an event with refresh rate in GEM
set the framerate of your gemwin higher, then you get a flash at every bang. change [gemwin] to [gemwin 80] (default with no argument is 20) m. Am 11.10.2007 um 12:42 schrieb Batuhan Bozkurt: #N canvas 78 53 295 395 10; #X obj 13 248 gemhead; #X msg 101 259 0 0 0; #X obj 13 311 disk 3 40; #X msg 72 173 255 255 255; #X obj 72 147 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X text 158 232 problem number; #X obj 72 200 t b l; #X obj 20 30 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -195568 -66577 0; #N canvas 0 22 454 304 gemwin 0; #X obj 132 136 gemwin; #X obj 67 89 outlet; #X obj 67 10 inlet; #X obj 67 41 route create; #X msg 67 70 set destroy; #X msg 142 68 set create; #X msg 198 112 destroy; #X msg 132 112 create \, 1; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 7 0; #X connect 3 1 5 0; #X connect 3 1 6 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X connect 7 0 0 0; #X restore 25 69 pd gemwin; #X msg 25 50 create; #X text 21 29 Create window:; #X obj 101 233 delay 20; #X obj 13 284 color 0 0 0; #X connect 0 0 12 0; #X connect 1 0 12 1; #X connect 3 0 6 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 6 1 12 1; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 11 0 1 0; #X connect 12 0 2 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] That's a surprising new look
Am 10.10.2007 um 12:24 schrieb Jack: I prefer PD with a small GUI, it's better for CPU and GPU. Jack i wonder why people do things in pd like $ reducing the number of sliders, toggles and bangs to a minimum, or $ running two instances of pd for the gui, or writing their gui themselves in python, or $ using -nogui when its so efficient for CPU and GPU ... or was your comment ironic? m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended 39-3 libraries load
Am 07.10.2007 um 07:12 schrieb Luiz Naveda: Nowdays I have had a strange problem. I have my own library which depends on some other libraris from PD extended. When I have to install it in other computers, I put my folders in 2 of the 10 slot- path but normally it misses 3 or 4 other libraries, so I start to look for the missing objects and rewrite all missing libraries in the 10 slots... to add more entries you may use the : as a separator as described here: http://puredata.org/docs/tutorials/TipsAndTricks#add-more-entries-to- the-path-and-library-dialogs ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent dac~ from output damage
Am 05.10.2007 um 09:24 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: the simplest one is: play at low volumes. you can destroy your PA and permanently damage the ears of a large audience with something as simple as the apple startup sound. no pd involved. at least for PPC machines there is relief: http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~arcana/StartupSound/index.en.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates
hi iohannes, marius, i think roman is correct with “Nachrichten” like in: „eine Nachricht verschicken an...“ not like in watching the news though. ;] m Am 03.10.2007 um 02:49 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: marius schebella wrote: heute schon nachrichten geschaut? I am not sure about nachrichten, but the rest is ok for me. m. same for me: i don't think that nachrichten is the correct translation. probably Signale would be better, if signals wasn't already used for something else... how do you call messages when you teach pd in german? at least, i call them messages fmga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates
what about some other germanophones on the list cast their ballot on this question? frank, what's your opinion? i taught pd to german speaking non-nerds with russian as their second language and i think they appreciated that i used nachrichten instead of messages.. but maybe you're right and i spent to much time in montreal and became to sensible about political correct language usage ;) or alternatively we make an austrian version of pdpedia... greetings, m. Am 03.10.2007 um 12:23 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Max Neupert wrote: hi iohannes, marius, i think roman is correct with “Nachrichten” like in: „eine Nachricht verschicken an...“ not like in watching the news though. ;] well obviously. the question is whether we should translate pure data as reine daten (rein as in reines wasser, not as in rheingold). after all, it is a translation to german, not french. fgmadsr. IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates
nachrichtenbox, objektbox, zahlenbox m. Am 02.10.2007 um 21:03 schrieb marius schebella: I was talking about messagebox objectbox numberbox... marius. Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 00:03 +0200, João Miguel Pais wrote: for inlets/outlets I think we can use german words, but also mention the english terms, so that people are not totally helpless when they read english documentation. in germany among germans I always heard Eingang/Ausgang, as well as Nachricht. I used befehl and nachricht for message. bibliothek for library sounds good to me, although I do not really use it. There are also some other terms that need to be translated, like box = ? kästchen? infobox is certainly nothing, that could be misunderstood in german. i'd say let's skip any intention to be pure in that case, since any correct translation sounds so 19th century. furthermore is german a language, that is quite used to anglizisms, unlike french. roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates
nice and clean translation. just releaseversion sounds like an ugly hybrid – although i can't come up with something better. “veröffentlicht” might be close.. Am 02.10.2007 um 21:12 schrieb marius schebella: heute schon nachrichten geschaut? I am not sure about nachrichten, but the rest is ok for me. m. Roman Haefeli wrote: just as a resume: are all german speaking people fine with that? -- # wikipedia terms $stub = Rohentwurf; $template = Vorlage; $category = Kategorie; $infobox = Infobox; # pdpedia terms $objectclass = Objektklasse; # page headers $inlets = Eingänge; $outlets = Ausgänge; $arguments = Argumente; $messages = Nachrichten; # infobox $name = Name; $description = Beschreibung; $abbreviation = Abkürzung; $library = Bibliothek; $author = Autor; $developer = Entwickler; $releaseVersion = Releaseversion; $releaseDate = Releasedatum; $dependencies = Abhängigkeiten; $license = Lizenz; $website = Webseite; $programmingLanguage = Programmiersprache; $platform = Plattform; $operatingSystem = Betriebssystem; $language = Sprache; $dataType = Datentyp; $distributions = Distributionen; On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 17:20 -0400, marius schebella wrote: for stub I prefer rohfassung or rohentwurf. it means raw draft or basic sketch. for inlets/outlets I think we can use german words, but also mention the english terms, so that people are not totally helpless when they read english documentation. I used befehl and nachricht for message. bibliothek for library sounds good to me, although I do not really use it. There are also some other terms that need to be translated, like box = ? abstraction = ? canvas = arbeitsbereich patch = ? marius. Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 16:00 -0400, marius schebella wrote: $stub = rumpffassung or (unbearbeiteter) rohentwurf yeah, 'rohentwurf' sounds pretty reasonable $library could stay library hm... that doesn't make sense to me. 'Programmbibliothek' or just 'Bibliothek' are widely used terms. why should it be different for pd-world? $inlet, $outlet could be eingang/eingänge ausgang/ausgänge i'm fine with that. though, i have the feeling that this could be nationality influenced. i never heard a swiss using 'eingang' for 'inlet', but austrians do it, iirc. don't know about germans. $messages stay messags. i am fine with that. marius, can you elaborate a bit your preferences? roman Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 10:22 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: yo, so many german speaking people here: i need your advice. since nobody have done yet the translation to german, i thougth, i could go for it. but: for me it's not quite obvious, what really should be translated and what not. when speaking german to other german people, often just the english terms are used. i tried to make a translation, that makes the most sense in my eyes, but that doesn't mean, that it does for others as well. -- # wikipedia terms $stub = Überarbeiten; # this is used in the german wikipedia $template = Vorlage; $category = Kategorie; $infobox = Infobox; # pdpedia terms $objectclass = Objektklasse; # page headers $inlets = Inlets; $outlets = Outles; $arguments = Argumente; $messages = Messages; # not sure about this one. # german would be 'Nachrichten', but # noone seems to use it. # infobox $name = Name; $description = Beschreibung; $abbreviation = Abkürzung; $library = Bibliothek; $author = Autor; $developer = Entwickler; $releaseVersion = Releaseversion; $releaseDate = Releasedatum; $dependencies = Abhängigkeiten; $license = Lizenz; $website = Webseite; $programmingLanguage = Programmiersprache; $platform = Plattform; $operatingSystem = Betriebssystem; $language = Sprache; $dataType = Datentyp; $distributions = Distribution; ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http:// lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http:// lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// messenger.yahoo.de
Re: [PD] translations for pdpedia templates
$releaseVersion = Releaseversion; $releaseDate = Releasedatum; what about $releaseVersion = Version; $releaseDate = veröffentlicht am; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GEM: pix_write issue on OS X
hi list, pix_write makes strange snapshots on OS X: everything is pale blue and negative. no matter if .tiff or .jpg. if i open the files in photoshop i get an file format error. they look different (different blue) depending with which application i open the files preview.app / graphicconverter.app marius had a similar problem a while ago i found in the archives: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-03/047975.html the odd thing is: the same patch works without problems on windows. an endianess issue? version: GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs GEM: compiled May 10 2007 max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: pix_write issue on OS X
this is nice, i just tested it. thanks. another issue (not crucial) i had is that pix_write did not understand relative paths to the file on OS X but it did work on windows. [folder/file 0( was handled by pix_write in os x like [/folder/file 0( max Am 28.09.2007 um 14:32 schrieb chris clepper: I'm pretty sure I fixed this in CVS a few months ago. On 9/28/07, Max Neupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hi list, pix_write makes strange snapshots on OS X: everything is pale blue and negative. no matter if .tiff or .jpg. if i open the files in photoshop i get an file format error. they look different (different blue) depending with which application i open the files preview.app / graphicconverter.app marius had a similar problem a while ago i found in the archives: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-03/047975.html the odd thing is: the same patch works without problems on windows. an endianess issue? version: GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs GEM: compiled May 10 2007 max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Opening a PD patch on Startup in OSX
Am 23.09.2007 um 18:35 schrieb Greg Pond: I havent encountered the problem that you have but I dont shutdown my machines at night. Is there some reason you need to? what about saving some energy and our earth ;) or is that a no reason? stuart, what exactly is the problem when the finder is in the foreground? do you have a gem patch and you don't want the pd patch to pop up? mx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] DMX oriented library for PD?
there are also midi - dmx boxes out there. did you try searching the archive? there are 75 founds for DMX. Am 23.09.2007 um 09:37 schrieb David Schaffer: Hi, Is there such thing as a DMX language oriented library for pd? I never heard of it but it would certainly be an amazing step forward for the program: being able to deal with sound, video, midi and lighting control signals would make it a must-have for theaters... Considering pd's control signals abilities, it shouldn't be too hard to emulate a lighting board's functions, and also the sound/lighting interraction could be much deeper. Has anyone thought of this before? I know there's usb-dmx boxes out there... D.S ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fullscreen on second screen (macosx)
Am 12.09.2007 um 16:59 schrieb punchik punchik: how can i do fullscreen on the second screen? [fullscreen 2( | [gemwin] before window creation m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] removing menu bar in GEM fullscreen mode
Am 26.08.2007 um 09:25 schrieb gilberto bernardes: Since I have an Ibook I just can send to the projector the screen... to remove this ibook disadvantage you may also enable second screen support. http://www.rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] multiple instances of pd (was: Multiple Webcams and Gem)
Am 06.08.2007 um 17:42 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard: time you activate this file it opens Pd again. You can have as many as you want this way, just like on Linux. interesting. by the way, is there a way on linux so it doesn't open all the time a new instance when i doubleclick on a pd file? max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Gem] pix-native? [RAM disk]
hi,
some sources suggest that there is no or little advantage to use a
ramdisk in os x because the system caches data which has frequent
access anyway.
so a ramdisk can be counterproductive in a cenario where you have
little ram:
lets say you have one gig memory. 300 mb are used by some
applications which are open, and another 300 by the system. now you
have a video in your ramdisk of also 300. the system tries to cache
it because it wants to accellerate but can't allocate enough anymore
and data will be swaped on the harddisk..
so you end up with less performance and more harddrive access because
of the ramdisk..
i'm curious about your findings.
greetings, m.
http://lowendmac.com/x-basics/02/0201.html
http://www.kernelthread.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=138
Am 30.07.2007 um 10:08 schrieb Derek Holzer:
vade wrote:
If you can sustain the datarates for the number of streams you
want the
uncompressed will always win with ease of CPU decoding, at the
expense
of being NASTILY hard on your drives.
Chris also suggested using a RAM disk, which would save a lot of wear
and tear on the HD in the case of uncompressed video.
I did some research on RAM disks for OS X. Seems like you can skip
buying a license for Rambunctious and just use the command line. I
promised Baruch that I would post on this, so some recipes follow,
copied from various internet sources...
best,
d.
*
#!/bin/sh
NUMSECTORS=524288
# 64mb = 131072
# 128mb = 262144
# 256mb = 524288
# 512mb = 1048576
# 1gb = 2097152
mydev=`hdid -nomount ram://$NUMSECTORS`
newfs_hfs $mydev
mkdir /tmp/ramdrive
mount -t hfs $mydev /tmp/ramdrive
Save the file with a name like 'mkramdisk.sh', and give it executable
permissions:
chmod 755 mkramdisk.sh
Run it. Voila. This script is right out of the man page for hdid. You
can also read about doing this at
http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/arch_fs.html
Creating a RAM disk was easy in 9, and, until now, undocumented
in X.
There is a utility called ramBunctious (available at VersionTracker)
that brings this functionality back to X (well, at least it puts a GUI
on it).
For those of you interested in how this works from the command
line, its
pretty simple. First, create a read/write disk image (you can do
this in
Disk Copy). Next, create the /dev entry for RAM using the hdid tool.
Finally, copy the contents of the disk image to the RAM /dev entry and
mount it. Because the disk image is mounted from the /dev entry, any
changes occur in RAM. Here are the Terminal commands:
[First, calculate the number of 512K blocks you need: numblocks =
(image
size in MB) * 2048; for example: 5MB = 10240 blocks]
% hdid -nomount ram://numblocks
[result: /dev/disk1]
% dd if=/path/to/image/file.dmg of=/dev/disk1 bs=512
[result:2866+0 records in
2866+0 records out
1467392 bytes transferred in 1 secs (1467392 bytes/sec)]
% hdiutil mount /dev/rdisk1
You need to change the 1 in disk1 and rdisk1 to whatever number is
returned by the first command.
Please be sure to check out ramBunctious; it has excellent
documentation
on the state of RAM disks in X and when you should/should not use
them.
The reason I mention it here is because it could have a huge positive
impact on the functionality of a bootable X cd.
**
How to create a RAM disk on OS X
32768 = size in sectors (16MB in this case, a sector is 512 bytes)
$ hdid -nomount ram://32768
/dev/disk1
$ newfs_hfs /dev/disk1
$ mkdir /tmp/ramdisk1
$ mount -t hfs /dev/disk1 /tmp/ramdisk1
To unmount:
hdiutil detach /dev/disk1
to osx files tiger ramdisk ram disk by peter on Thu Mar 30 16:25:22
EST 2006
**
I have thrown together a quick script for anybody that wants to
create a
ramdisk regularly. It's flexible enough for me, but can be edited to
offer more options (if u know a little .sh scripting). The disk is
dynamicly named and will show up on the desktop when the script is
finished. Unmounting can be done as any drive in the finder. The major
differences between my and the above approach is that I use
diskutil to
mount the created drive, so Finder likes it better, and i give the
volume a label, so it can be better recognized by the user ...
Here it is:
Leila:~ samynew[14:30:55]$ cat ramdisk
#!/bin/bash
if [ -n $2 ]; then ARG_ERR=ERR; fi
if [ -z $1 ]; then ARG_ERR=ERR; fi
if [ -n $ARG_ERR ];
then
echo 1 argument: size in MB
exit
fi
MB_SIZE=$1
let MB_SIZE *= 2048
echo Creating ${MB_SIZE} 512-blocks ramdisk
CREATED_RAMDISK=`hdid -nomount ram://${MB_SIZE}`
echo New block device: ${CREATED_RAMDISK}
DISK_NAME=`basename ${CREATED_RAMDISK}`
echo Creating volume with label: ${DISK_NAME}
newfs_hfs -v ${DISK_NAME} /dev/r$CREATED_RAMDISK
echo Mounting in /Volumes/${DISK_NAME}
mkdir /Volumes/${DISK_NAME}
diskutil mount ${CREATED_RAMDISK}
Make sure it's chmodded to be executable: chmod u+x
Re: [PD] counter question
i asked that question the 2005-11-10 with the subject Re: [PD] Building a counter problem Am 26.07.2007 um 13:45 schrieb Derek Holzer: If I use a simple counter structure that continues to generate a number from [f] [+1] at every bang, and use [mod] to keep that number within certain bounds, then eventually it will require more and more memory to hold the number coming from [f], right? Is this a potential memory leak, or is there a cap to how much memory it will hold? Likewise, is there a max limit to the number that can be stored in [f]? I've seen that [f] resets itself somewhere around 8.394e+06. Does that mean that [f] resets itself and clears the memory? Or in less-theoretical and more practical terms, would it make sense to reset [f] to 0 every so often, or let it run forever towards infinity? best, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/ macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 37: Convert a melodic element into a rhythmic element ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] polygon object
that reminds me about this curiosity which i could not figure out yet: why is the solid shape completely messed up? (or actually halfway) allstar.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How do you find exposure from pixel or video?
with helpfile i mean: 1. make the object, 2. rightclick for the context menue 3. choose help those files should explain how to use the objects. they are patches themselves so you can play around, modify, or just copy parts of them. hope this gets you started. Am 13.07.2007 um 11:32 schrieb Henry Lin: Hello Max iam wondering which section under help file? thank you so much for ur help From: Max Neupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Henry Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How do you find exposure from pixel or video? Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:23:54 -0400 to get the brightness of a live video feed you could use [pix_video] and [pix_data] from Gem for example. look into the helpfiles Am 12.07.2007 um 14:53 schrieb Henry Lin: hello what i mean is we need to use the cam recorder to capture the lighting and send out a number... which mean that a 100% of brightest thanks From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Henry Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] How do you find exposure from pixel or video? Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:31:29 -0400 Welcome! I am not sure I know what you mean by finding exposure from pixel or video, do you mean getting images from a video camera? For that you can use pix_video, pdp_v4l, or pdp_ieee1394. .hc On Jul 11, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Henry Lin wrote: Hello Iam new to puredata , i need help in finding exposure from pixel or video thank you everyone =) Click here to get a free Canada Day MeeGo. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list -- -- The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Windows Live Hotmail. Even hotter than before Get a better look now. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Windows Live Hotmail. Even hotter than before Get a better look now. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hide menubar on Mac OS X/Pd-extended.app
why so complicated if [menubar 0( just works? Am 11.07.2007 um 15:21 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: If you've ever wanted to have Gem be full screen on the primary screen, I have found a way. It's called LSUIPresentationMode. Basically, using Property List Editor.app, open Pd-extended.app/Contents/ Info.plist. Add a New Child to Root. Call that node LSUIPresentationMode, change the data type to Number and set the data to be 4. Then when you launch Pd-extended.app, the Menubar and Dock will auto-hide themselves. Here are some other modes: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/ BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/PListKeys.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/ 20001431-113616 .hc zen \ \ \[D[D[D[D ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] repeated geo with shader
you mean like this? gemhead-doppelt.pd Description: Binary data Am 26.06.2007 um 14:45 schrieb punchik punchik: hi pd list, im using the repeat object to repeat a sphere with a shader program. I would like to know if its possible to have access to the variables of the shader of the iterated sphere independently. i would like that each repeated sphere have different shader parameters of the same shading program ... is this possible? any hints? punchikk ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Turning on/off an installation
Am 26.06.2007 um 01:49 schrieb simon wise: Do you know a way (in OSX) to create Logout Items similar to Login Items in the Accounts Preferences? not that i can think of now.. to set up timed events I've used CronniX from http:// www.abstracture.de/cronnix (easy + free GUI to create crontabs = schedule events eg the Applescripts above) apple advices to migrate from cron to their open source effort and cron replacement launchd. http://developer.apple.com/macosx/launchd.html and you can actualy use iCal to set up any automatisation at any time calling scripts or etc. works great. otherwhise use http://lingon.sourceforge.net/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Turning on/off an installation
Am 25.06.2007 um 11:35 schrieb simon wise: On 24 Jun 2007, at 7:31 AM, Max Neupert wrote: here an example how to switch the computer off/to sleep from pd the sleep script works nicely, but the logoff one fails - shut down and sleep are valid for Finder in an Applescript, but log out isn't. first i think you need to activate UI-Scripting. http://www.apple.com/applescript/uiscripting/01.html you'll have in your “System events” applescript library a “power suite” folder with log out restart shut down sleep then also you need to make a .app out of the script i've sent in the last mail by saving it in the Scripteditor Another problem I have is that with [shell] I get an error dialogue saying pd quit unexpectedly when I use the examples in shell- help.pd - I guess it refers to the process triggered by [shell] ending, since pd continues on happily. When I try your patch the system sleeps before pd can quit, it quits just after the system wakes up. Adding delay 5 to the start of the applescript doesn't help - it just adds a delay after wake up before pd quits, followed by the error dialogue. Trying to split off the shell process by; [ /Users/simon/sleep.app( | [ggee/shell] does not work, Console says the isn't recognised (it's ok in Terminal) - pd quits, but sleep.app isn't run. i think you should do [open /Users/simon/sleep.app( | [shell] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OSC between win and mac
hi jo, first thing would be to find out where the problem is exactly. is it the sender or receiver. set up pd on the windows machine and send something from there. does it work? if yes, then it might be a problem in eyecon. if not, make sure the firewalls allow communication through this port. m. Am 18.06.2007 um 21:14 schrieb Johannes Krause: hey list, i send OSC messages from a windows computer (running eyecon) to a mac (running pd). when i am using: dumpOSC 7000 I I OSCroute /Poly1 /Poly2 /Poly3 I there is no output in the atomboxes. how to receive OSC messages in pd? where i have to specify the ip? shouts joh ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! any news?
come and see his show at PDCon. in Montréal Am 19.06.2007 um 14:15 schrieb patrick: hi, i've been interested in sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! for a year. exactly one year ago, someone was asking when we'll be able to try sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! sven replied: ... nobody knows - not even me (and i'm that guy) but be assured that i'm working on it - the current main problem is that the sun is shining + weather is sweet and cold beer needs to be drunk while hanging out outdoors watching soccer matches. but there's something you can do - pray for rain! ... http://www.popmodernism.org/scrambledhackz/ ping sven pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] datastructures+gop naive sequencer approach
hi list, while modyfying a sequencer from the list (i believe it was franks) i messed up the whole thing. 2 questions: a) why are the notes both in red now, i inteded to have each voice in a different color... b) how come they pop up somwhere else out of the canvas? naive_sequencing.pd Description: Binary data sequence-data.pd Description: Binary data naive_sequencing-help.pd Description: Binary data thanks, max PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [GEM]: how to alpha blend gradually
hi list, how do i make a pix_film with a linear gradiation transparent (from left to right?) thank you max ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] network
hi list, i'm sending control data to a vline~ object over the network. those are precisely timed messages. i can hear uncontinuous errors in the output, some messages seem to be delayed. when i use OSC the timing is pretty bad. now i use netserver/ netclient and it's getting better, but there are still some discontinuity hearable (in the sampleplaying of the tabread4~ driven by the vline~). i guess i can further optimize by avoiding all other network traffic, but is there another way to get the sheduling tighter? thanks, m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] subtractive synth - minimoog model
Am 27.05.2007 um 04:43 schrieb Josh Lawrence: incidentally, I found a nice minimoog synth on the web, but one thing that I absolutely cannot stand with that and ams is the lack of ability to retrigger a held note after another one is played (I think this has been called the trilogy trill - make sense?). this is a must on an analog synth. chris mentioned it, did you try this one? http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre/SananMiniMoog.zip can anyone point me to some tutorials? that depends where you are in the learning curve.. i liked these ones: http://www.sideshowmedia.ca/audiotuts.zip http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk/padawan12/onlinetutorials/html/ tutorials_main.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vote your font! [was: fonts on GNU/Linux]
Am 18.05.2007 um 08:17 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Which do you prefer? [X] normal.png [ ] bold.png why not making it an option? i'd prefer normal as the preset though. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vote your font! [was: fonts on GNU/Linux]
btw: the font in the menues and dialog boxes including the file selector looks extremely ugly on the machines of my ubuntu buddies. any way to change this? m. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fixing distortion on surface
check out lighttwist of jean-philippe tardif université de montréal it does the calibration automatically, you just need a high-res frame- grabber. http://tot.sat.qc.ca/logiciels_lighttwist.html max Am 17.05.2007 um 05:31 schrieb chris clepper: If you have accurately measured the distortion you can correct it by rendering the entire scene offscreen then mapping it onto corrected geometry. You could also do it by sight with less exact results. I have seen this done perfectly once for a hemispherical projection system designed for DoD weapons simulations. The guys who made the system are/were some of the top optics engineers in the world, so they made it look easy. On 5/16/07, punchik punchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi is there any way of fixing the distorion i get when i project gem visuals in curved or irregular surfaces? is there any trick? thanks pun __ __Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Image transitions with GEM?
common is to simply use two texured objects and fade the foremost to transparent using [alpha] and [colorRGB] m. Am 17.05.2007 um 18:11 schrieb Carlos Caires: Hi all, Is ther a quick way to do smouth transitions (cross dissolves) between two images? Thanks. Carlos Caires __ |||CARLOS CAIRES||| www.carloscaires.org __ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] change sound.wav to sound.mp3
i'd do [splitfilename .] | [makefilename %s.mp3] | splitfilename is iemlib i believe. m. Am 14.05.2007 um 19:40 schrieb altern: hi i am trying to find out how to change the extension of a symbol with the name of a file, from sound.wav to sound.mp3. any ideas? if possible i would like to avoid using externals for this. thanks enrike ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] deja-vu font on os x
Am 02.05.2007 um 19:21 schrieb Andre Schmidt: On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 15:48 +0200, Max Neupert wrote: sorry, my post went offlist accidently.. DON'T install fonts by just dropping them into a folder on os x. double click on them and press install or open the type ulitiy to install them properly. i'm curious, why not ? a little OT here, no? until 10.3 this was the official method how to install fonts. since then though apple urges to use font book because it makes sure your font files aren't damaged. in the font folder(s) are active and disabled fonts aswell. font book manages the index. and for instance if there is an earlier version of the same font you want to replace it is better to use font book although just dropping them in the folder might work, this is the recommended way to install a font. http://images.apple.com/ca/pro/pdf/MigrateMacOSX.pdf quote: “Disabling Fonts With Font Book, fonts can be stored in the various font directories in Mac OS X without being activated.This activation and deactivation is controlled by Font Book; you cannot tell the state of the font by viewing it in the Finder.” but you will also still find contradicting info from pre 10.3 times: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106417 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
