[PD] concert in NY 15/4
If you are in NY on April 15th my piece for Microtonal trumpet and electronics (running Pd) will feature in Stephen Altoft's recital as part of the AMERICAN FESTIVAL OF MICROTONAL MUSIC (AFMM), under the direction of Johnny Reinhard, presents a four-night series at Spectrum, located at 121 Ludlow Street, second floor, in Lower Manhattan. Admission is $20. at the door for each night; $15 for seniors and students. Tuesday at 7 PM on April 15th spotlights the microtonal trumpet in recital featuring European trumpeter Stephen Altoft in his own composition RASP, as well as Oded Ben-Tals STILL LIFE, Elia Koussas UPWARDS IN TIME, Elizabeth Adams IMMATERIAL, Donald Bousteds YASSER DESCRIBES HIS POLEMIC (and adds some footnotes), Cornelius Schwehrs LE BONHEUR, Gordon Kampes YIHA, Eleri Pounds GNOSSIENNE, and Alexander Grebtschenkos BYE-BYE. Mr. Altoft has collected short works in 19-tone equal temperament named the The Yasser Collection after the early 20th Century theorist and organist, Joseph Yasser. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] music technology job
2 lectureship positions (+-equivalent of American assistant prof) at Kingston University Music Department. Were looking for a practising musician with expertise in popular music and contemporary music practice, in particular the use of live sound and technology in creative performance. more information http://www.jobs.ac.uk/job/AIK838/lecturer-in-music/ Feel free to contact me if you have any quesitons. Oded ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded o...@ccrma.stanford.edu ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] display image from google search?
Many thanks I was finally able to get this to work (needed to install python-simplejson). I think it is cool, but originally I was hoping to use the search-by-image option. i.e. I upload an image and find visually similar image online. The ideas is to, eventually, get an evolving series of images that are associated with each other in some strange and unexpected ways. Does anyone know if that would be possible? Oded On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:05:40 -0500, puredata wrote here's the patch: http://pdpatchrepo.info/patches/patch/80 the demo: https://vimeo.com/84646422 i invite people to subscribe to the RSS feeds: http://pdpatchrepo.info/rss/patch (when a new patch is added) http://pdpatchrepo.info/rss/stream (when a new patch is streamed) à+ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded o...@ccrma.stanford.edu ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] display image from google search?
Oh wise Pd users! I am wondering if it is possible to so have Pd do search-by-image on google and then display a selected image from the result (using Gem). Any ideas how to accomplish that (or something similar. It doesn't have to be google search) would be welcome Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Recording
Dear All, If you're interested in microtonal music with electronics: http://www.tutti.co.uk/cds/still-life-DOBOD-SLIFE-T1 The electronics bit is using Pd (the editing was done in Ardour). All yours for just £1. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] 2 performances in London Aug. 15, 16
Hi All, I will be performing a Pd-based audiovisual piece at the riverside studios next week as part of the Tete-A-Tete festival. http://www.tete-a-tete.org.uk/zaum-beyond-mind/ The piece Zaum: Beyond Mind explores notions of embodied musical performance in relation to the digital nature of much of the sonic visual material, and the changing relationship between different types of presence. Virtual presence takes the form of 'un-desiring' bodies as voices-off, whilst polarities between the animate and the inanimate are reversed in a 'play' between performers and instruments. What: Zaum: Beyond Mind Where riverside studios Hammersmiths London When Aug. 15 16 20:45 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] call for works
This year, the theme of Kingston University’s Improvisation and Digital Arts Festival (IDAF) is symbiosis. The IDAF prize will be awarded in recognition of an outstanding piece of work under the broad headings of improvisation and the digital arts. We encourage submissions of both fixed work and documentations of performance/installations (which may be audio-only or mixed media) that address the festival theme of Symbiosis. more information: http://www.idaf.co.uk/?page_id=229 ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded o...@ccrma.stanford.edu___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] graph on parent problem?
hi Hans, I am attaching the patch. changing env~ parameter solved the problem. I did, however, test what happens if the vumeter is in the top patch (rather then inside the subpatch) and that doesn't create the same problem (i.e. doing [env~] without giving it a large buffer size). So there might be some additional issue with gop property there. thanks Oded ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded o...@ccrma.stanford.edu #N canvas 301 37 864 693 10; #N canvas 741 317 287 398 taprhythm 0; #X obj -51 240 list prepend; #X obj -68 106 t b b b; #X obj -68 139 timer; #X obj -68 21 inlet; #X obj 45 19 inlet; #X obj -43 354 outlet; #X obj -51 270 t l l; #X obj 45 108 sel 0 1; #X obj -37 300 list; #X obj -67 73 spigot 0; #X obj -68 167 t f b; #X obj -41 194 s hit; #X msg 24 85 bang; #X connect 0 0 6 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 1 1 2 1; #X connect 2 0 10 0; #X connect 3 0 9 0; #X connect 4 0 7 0; #X connect 4 0 9 1; #X connect 4 0 12 0; #X connect 6 0 8 1; #X connect 6 1 0 1; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 7 1 0 1; #X connect 8 0 5 0; #X connect 9 0 1 0; #X connect 10 0 0 0; #X connect 10 1 11 0; #X connect 12 0 2 0; #X restore 104 134 pd taprhythm; #N canvas 476 0 747 410 playrhythm 0; #X obj 44 108 list split 1; #X obj 38 228 del; #X obj 93 197 list append; #X obj 44 25 inlet; #X obj 139 29 inlet; #X obj 44 75 list; #X obj 38 362 outlet; #X obj 454 324 outlet; #X obj 252 25 inlet; #X obj 38 199 * 1; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 0 1 2 1; #X connect 0 2 7 0; #X connect 1 0 6 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 5 1; #X connect 5 0 0 0; #X connect 8 0 9 1; #X connect 9 0 1 0; #X restore 28 273 pd playrhythm; #X obj 17 157 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty play 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 173 108 tgl 15 0 empty empty on/off 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X text 152 55 tap space bar; #X text 184 133 collect rhythm; #N canvas 408 70 450 300 noise 0; #X obj 166 51 inlet; #X obj 166 73 t b b; #X obj 198 118 del 100; #X msg 124 123 1 20; #X obj 132 188 line~; #X obj 70 238 outlet~; #X obj 44 181 noise~; #X obj 70 207 *~; #X msg 187 150 0 100; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 1 1 2 0; #X connect 2 0 8 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 7 1; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 5 0; #X connect 8 0 4 0; #X restore 72 394 pd noise; #X obj 28 301 s hit; #X obj 28 32 r hit; #X obj 33 68 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 72 359 r hit; #X obj 370 632 output~; #X obj 103 315 spigot; #X obj 142 288 tgl 15 0 empty empty loop-on/off 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 72 428 *~ 0; #X obj 281 463 equal_power_pan~; #X obj 377 432 hsl 30 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty pan 3 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 369 588 freeverb~; #X msg 444 366 roomsize \$1; #X msg 444 411 damping \$1; #X msg 444 455 width \$1; #X msg 444 499 wet \$1; #X msg 444 543 dry \$1; #X obj 456 520 hsl 60 18 0 1 0 1 empty empty dry 2 9 1 12 -225271 -1 -1 5700 0; #X obj 456 476 hsl 60 18 0 0.2 0 1 empty empty wet 2 9 1 12 -225271 -1 -1 1900 0; #X obj 456 432 hsl 60 18 0 1 0 1 empty empty width 2 9 1 12 -262131 -1 -1 5900 0; #X obj 456 388 hsl 60 18 0 2 0 1 empty empty damping 2 9 1 12 -261689 -1 -1 1475 0; #X obj 456 343 hsl 60 18 0.11 1.1 0 1 empty empty roomsize 2 9 1 12 -261689 -1 -1 4410 0; #X floatatom 426 347 3 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 426 392 3 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 426 437 3 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 426 480 3 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 426 524 3 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 138 404 vsl 15 40 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 198 339 catch~ sig; #X obj 71 461 throw~ sig; #N canvas 275 234 1104 536 playsample 0; #X obj 618 197 soundfiler; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array asound 144384 float 2; #X coords 0 1 144384 -1 200 140 1; #X restore 346 86 graph; #X obj 618 119 openpanel; #X floatatom 543 336 5 0 0 1 length - -; #X msg 618 157 read -resize \$1 asound; #X obj 59 413 line~; #X obj 46 446 tabread4~ asound; #X obj 262 232 -; #X obj 262 204 t b f; #X obj 262 261 * 1000; #X obj 261 294 /; #X obj 166 191 t b b b; #X obj 95 236 f 1; #X obj 159 227 f 2; #X obj 245 321 f 1; #X obj 245 344 abs; #X obj 121 478 outlet~; #X obj 170 27 r hit; #X obj 618 83 inlet; #X obj 57 38 inlet; #X text 57 19 from; #X obj 116 38 inlet; #X obj 296 43 inlet; #X text 295 26 speed; #X obj 636 356 outlet; #X obj 70 329 pack 0 0; #X obj 203 100 counter 0 4; #X obj 170 53 t b b; #X obj 98 372 route 0 1 2 3 4; #X obj 156 414 line~; #X obj 157 444 tabread4~ asound; #X obj 266 416 line~; #X obj 267 446 tabread4~ asound; #X obj 377 416 line~; #X obj 378 446 tabread4~ asound; #X obj 491 415 line~; #X obj 492 449 tabread4~ asound; #X obj 159 338 pack 0 0 0; #X obj 753 265 tabwrite~ asound; #X text 112 15 duration; #X obj 103 134 +; #X obj 115 107 t b f; #X obj 111 168 clip 0 10; #X obj 732 27 adc~ 1; #X obj 613 278 f 0; #X obj 732 57 hip~ 10; #X obj 854 84 inlet; #X obj 856 116 sel 1 0; #X obj 874 186 timer; #X
Re: [PD] graph on parent problem?
If I understood your problem correctly, this might be because pd redraws array contents very inefficiently, so if you are constantly changing array contents that can prove quite cpu intensive. I don't think that is the problem - I'm not changing the array just load it once the play from it. Thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] graph on parent problem?
I have an array in a subpatch, when I applied graph-on-parent property to the subpatch (to view the array which holds sound so could be fairly large) Pd didn't like that. With dsp off it worked fine but when I turn dsp on Pd becames unusably slow to react (sliders, etc.). I was able to solve the problem by removing the graph-on-parent option. So it seems there is something in the interaction of graph-on-parent and the sound engine. this is on a planetCCRMA system: FC17 PD0.42-5extended Anyone else encounter such a problem? Any solution (beside moving things outside subpatches)? Thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Performance Sunday 22/4
As part of Rough for Opera concert I'll be performing Zaum: Beyond Mind a sound theatre piece using Pd. 22nd April, 7:30pm The Cockpit Theatre Gateforth Street, London, NW8 8EH http://www.secondmovement.org.uk/#!vstc0=rough-for-opera ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded o...@ccrma.stanford.edu ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd in concert (Ghent 26/5)
If you happen to be in Ghent tomorrow. This concert http://users.telenet.be/stichtinglogos/lb/1105/lb1105kon.html#110526 will feature Pd work. Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] contact mic beeswax
hi, quite a few places reccomend using beeswax to attach contact microphones to instruments. Looking around there are various types of products sold as beeswax for different applications (shoe-shine, furniture polishing, etc.) anyone knows what kind, and more importantly in which type of shop, should I get? I'm in London if that helps. thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-extended and SELinux
I recently upgraded to FC14. the first time I started pd SELinux didn't like it (though I haven't noticed any operational problems yet). This is the brief error message: SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/pdextended from using the 'execstack' accesses on a process. * Plugin allow_execstack (53.1 confidence) suggests If you do not think /usr/bin/pdextended should need to map stack memory that is both writable and executable. Then you need to report a bug. This is a potentially dangerous access. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fedora build of Pd-extended 0.42.5?
currently, and I don't know Fedora. Can anyone do a basic RPM spec file? I figure we could start with a really basic one that just packed up the files that are built from the existing build system. I'm pretty sure nando has a spec file for fedora13. These used to be up there with the srpms Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Come see PD in action
If you happen to be in Slovenia... Friday 18th of June at the Kibla arts centre in Maribor Slovenia Ukiyo by Dans sans Joux Ukiyo explores the layers of perceptions in an audiovisual world that constantly shifts and fragments; the audience is invited to move in and around the space which features five hanamichi (runways) and several projection screens for the photography and virtual world graphics. The dancers perform simultaneously with digital objects that are projected and generate some of the sonic dimensions through the sounding garments. The music and visual choreography for Ukiyo are designed partly for real-time gestural interaction to animate the feedback system and generative algorithms through with the virtual space and the performer movements are intertwined. (Pd features in the music and sensor interaction) more details (scroll down for English) http://www.dance-tech.net/events/ukiyo-2-birringer-daplab/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audio breaking
thanks for the pointers. The setup of rt kernel is one of the main reasons I'm using planetCCRMA version (where nando manages to take care of these issues letting normal users access rt priorities). I am still baffled by the fact that I get synch errors from pd even when not doing any audio (no patch open. and these are not only the initial errors when launching pd). And also the fact that I can get good audio playback reliably from snd (soundeditor). Doesn't that suggest that the problem is not with jack/firewire but perhaps with pd? Oded https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation#line-127 Roman On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 23:52 +0100, Derek Holzer wrote: I used to have to run Pd + JACK as -rt under sudo or root on Linux to get good performance. Maybe there's another way with permissions and groups and such, it's been a while since I fooled with it. D. On 3/4/10 11:41 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: (I re-send this'cause before I left the wrong subject in the email) Hi Oded, sorry if it sounds obvious, but have you tried starting Pd with the flag -rt? the flag will set Pd to get an actual real-time priority. M Message: 3Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:13:24 -0800 (PST) From: Oded Ben-Tal o...@ccrma.stanford.edu mailto:o...@ccrma.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [PD] audio breaking To: Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com mailto:ricardolame...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: alpine.lfd.2.00.1003041112350.8...@ccrma-gate.stanford.edu mailto:alpine.lfd.2.00.1003041112350.8...@ccrma-gate.stanford.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I thinj he is using realtime kernel, as he is running jack with the -R flag (reatime) otherwise jack wouldn even start. Yes, I'm using the rt-kernel from planet CCRMA. -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] audio breaking
I'm encountering bad audio behvaiour with pd+jack. Pd is reporting DIO errors even without any patch open. When I open one of the simple example patches I get very frequent breaks in the audio sometime these are even at a regular rate (around 120 bpm). I'm using FC10 with jack and a firewire soundcard. I'm starting jack with: /usr/bin/jackd -R -t1 -dfirewire -r48000 -p256 -n3 -i2 -o6 (also tried p128 512). I can play soundfiles with no problems using snd so it seems the problem might involve some interaction between pd jack. I don't get this audio problem when I'm using pd with a USB soundcard (without jack) on the same machine. Any ideas how to track the problem and (hopefully) fix it? Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audio breaking
I thinj he is using realtime kernel, as he is running jack with the -R flag (reatime) otherwise jack wouldn even start. Yes, I'm using the rt-kernel from planet CCRMA. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] looking for video of performance
A while back (probably more then a year). someone posted link to a nice video of performance with a video camera capturing the contours of a rubber(?) membrane and using these to generate sounds. I was trying to locate these again as an example to show to my students but I couldn't find the right set of keywords to find this message through searching. does anyone remember that post by any chance or who posted it? thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] efficiency savings?
I started putting together elements of a patch that I worked on separately and I'm getting sound droopouts. It seems I'm simply asking Pd to do too much for real-time processing. I started making the code more efficient by removing number and gui objects that I used for debugging and used switch~ to shut off audio processing in windows when not used. Any other general suggestions? Is there a method of finding out which parts of the patch are most demanding? thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] different versions different sounds
I'm tryint to figure out why the same patch results in completely different sounds in two versions of Pd. It is part of a larger patch but I'm attaching the relevant section. I'm running this in: 1) Win latest Pd-ext-0.40.3 2) Linux latest release candidate. And I just get very different sounds (the best I can describe is that I get a more metallic sound in Win. ). I don't know if the difference is because of the different versions or different systems, and since I need to reboot my machine to compare these it's not easy to just try changing things semi randomly. Any ideas for plausible reasons (and ways to get the latest version sounding like the earlier one?) thanks Oded#N canvas 223 67 979 659 10; #X obj 353 220 random 100; #X obj 463 370 random 100; #X obj 424 336 t b f b; #X obj 394 402 del 200; #X obj 463 488 t b f; #X obj 461 522 del 200; #X obj 353 277 t b f; #X obj 379 304 moses 40; #X obj 462 402 moses 65; #X floatatom 146 410 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 90 457 *~ 2.7; #X obj 230 111 average 100; #X msg 20 212 \$1 250; #X obj 20 238 line~; #X obj 205 166 dirac~; #X obj 207 219 *~ 1; #X obj 160 97 r act; #X obj 336 307 s act; #X obj 394 433 s act; #X obj 461 549 s act; #X msg 84 265 \$1 250; #X obj 84 291 line~; #X msg 182 299 \$1 250; #X obj 182 325 line~; #X msg 255 360 \$1 250; #X obj 255 386 line~; #X obj 205 189 hip~ 5000; #X obj 353 165 bng 25 250 50 0 empty empty trigger -3 -7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 230 140 / 5; #X obj 21 156 route 5 6 7 8; #X obj 298 469 sig~; #X obj 236 417 vcf~ 50; #X obj 163 356 vcf~ 45; #X obj 65 322 vcf~ 37; #X obj 1 269 vcf~ 25; #X floatatom 309 184 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 353 247 moses 80; #X obj 432 371 * 20; #X obj 463 461 * 27; #X obj 298 440 * 2.8; #X obj 463 433 + 10; #X obj 21 184 unpack 0 0; #X obj 85 237 unpack 0 0; #X obj 183 271 unpack 0 0; #X obj 256 332 unpack 0 0; #X obj 133 548 *~ 0.2; #X obj 260 588 freeverb~; #X obj 89 489 delwrite~ del-a 700; #X obj 230 513 vd~ del-a; #X obj 221 62 env~; #X obj 203 7 adc~; #X obj -18 58 sigmund~ -hop 2048 -npeak 9 peaks; #X obj 260 628 dac~ 1 2; #X connect 0 0 36 0; #X connect 1 0 8 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 2 1 37 0; #X connect 2 2 1 0; #X connect 3 0 18 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 4 1 5 1; #X connect 5 0 19 0; #X connect 6 0 17 0; #X connect 6 1 7 0; #X connect 7 1 2 0; #X connect 8 0 40 0; #X connect 9 0 10 1; #X connect 10 0 47 0; #X connect 11 0 28 0; #X connect 12 0 13 0; #X connect 13 0 34 1; #X connect 14 0 26 0; #X connect 15 0 31 0; #X connect 15 0 32 0; #X connect 15 0 33 0; #X connect 15 0 34 0; #X connect 16 0 14 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 33 1; #X connect 22 0 23 0; #X connect 23 0 32 1; #X connect 24 0 25 0; #X connect 25 0 31 1; #X connect 26 0 15 0; #X connect 27 0 0 0; #X connect 28 0 15 1; #X connect 29 0 41 0; #X connect 29 1 42 0; #X connect 29 2 43 0; #X connect 29 3 44 0; #X connect 30 0 48 0; #X connect 31 0 10 0; #X connect 32 0 10 0; #X connect 33 0 10 0; #X connect 34 0 10 0; #X connect 35 0 15 1; #X connect 36 0 6 0; #X connect 37 0 3 1; #X connect 38 0 4 0; #X connect 39 0 30 0; #X connect 40 0 38 0; #X connect 41 0 12 0; #X connect 42 0 20 0; #X connect 43 0 22 0; #X connect 44 0 24 0; #X connect 45 0 47 0; #X connect 46 0 52 0; #X connect 46 1 52 1; #X connect 48 0 45 0; #X connect 48 0 46 0; #X connect 49 0 11 0; #X connect 49 0 39 0; #X connect 50 0 51 0; #X connect 50 1 49 0; #X connect 51 0 29 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
hi, I hoped to follow in Hector's footsteps and install this on the planet's FC10. But while i didn't see any errors when installing when I run this Pd I don't get any audio (when I select Jack I get I/O stuck; it works ok with the version that nando packages, but that's 0.39). It also can't find some libraries (below). It's rather sad really becuase I was hoping to be able to run it for a performance on Monday. zexy: can't load library freeverb: can't load library mapping: can't load library mrpeach: can't load library flatspace: can't load library unauthorized: can't load library iemlib: can't load library pan: can't load library list-abs: can't load library cyclone: can't load library hcs: can't load library sms: can't load library markex: can't load library /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux: libMagick++.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Gem: can't load library Yes, I installed the Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3-planetccrma9-i386.tar.bz2 package for Fedora available at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Which package is that? Did you try this release? .hc On May 26, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: Just wanted to let you know that using the Fedora package in Fedora Core 10 the font still seems too big. The text still sticks out of the object boxes. Regards, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I think this is basically ready to go http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Please test on Windows and give feedback! I haven't heard anything about Windows. It's looking ready for release, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I know, there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release. So I think this is the release. Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker This release candidate includes: * on GNU/Linux, corrected font size when using Tcl/Tk 8.5 * moocow/flite speech synth added on all platforms * fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and sigpack * (Windows) increased default audio buffer to 100ms since there are some really flaky audio cards in Windows land * (Mac OS X) decreased buffers to 20ms since all Apple hardware that I have tested in the past 7 years works with that KNOWN BUGS Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs, and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please add your information there. - Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences - pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd - loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
I am guessing that you have a preferences file in ~/.pdsettings that doesn't load 'libdir' first. Are those libraries in /usr/local/lib/pd/extra? So I could change the first lib to: loadlib1: libdir but am I correct in suspecting that would render pd-0.39 disfunctional? I don't presume the problem with opening the audio is linked to this problem which is why I'm keen to have the earlier PD functioning untill I manage to fix that. thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
thanks (I should have figured it out myself). It did solve the loading problem but still no audio... On May 28, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Oded Ben-Tal wrote: I am guessing that you have a preferences file in ~/.pdsettings that doesn't load 'libdir' first. Are those libraries in /usr/local/lib/pd/extra? So I could change the first lib to: loadlib1: libdir but am I correct in suspecting that would render pd-0.39 disfunctional? I don't presume the problem with opening the audio is linked to this problem which is why I'm keen to have the earlier PD functioning untill I manage to fix that. Here's the FAQ on that problem: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/when-i-upgraded-to-pd-extended-0-40-3-it-stopped-loading-all-of-the-libraries You can just rename or move the .pdrc/.pdsettings file to try Pd-extended newer than 0.39.3 .hc The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] June 1 performance in London
If you are in London next Monday this performance (where I'm doing the music using, mostly, Pd) may be of interest: Ukiyo [Moveable World] by dap-lab / dans sans joux A choreographic installation fusing dance, sound, design and digital projections Monday, June 1, 19:ooAntoni Artaud Building, Brunel University, West London (free admission) UKIYO explores the layers of perceptions in an audiovisual world that constantly shifts and fragments; the audience is invited to move in and aound the space which in its current version features five hanamichi (runways) and several movie screens. Dancers perform simultaneously with digital objects that are projected, and their sounds and voices are sampled and processed. The music and visual choreography for Ukiyo are designed for real-time gestural interaction to animate the feedback system and generative algorithms through with the Second Life virtual space and the performer movements are intertwined. Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] compiling question
This is a rather silly question but I'm stumped. I'm trying to compile pd-vanilla but am stuck at step one: ./configure --prefix /home/oded/pdvanilla I get error ./configure no such file I'm in the pd/src directory (which should be the correct one). I'm running linux FC10 (ccrma). There is a configure.in file but no .configure file. I downloaded the code from svn last week (pd-extended. I'm trying to compile vanilla first before I decide if I want to try further). I know there is something basic I'm missing. thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] variance from mapping library
the mapping lib is optimized to work with number from -1 to 1. do you still have error using this kind of number? It seems that not. I do get negative numbers even with input of ~200 (no need to get to 10) and once it gets into negative territory it settles into negative numbers whenever the input is constant (i.e. 0 variance). Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sigmund~ env output
Hmm - there shouldn't be any difference between sigmund~'s env output and that of env~. What latform are you on? Perhaps I should check this out. This is on the winXP version. thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] sigmund~ env output
should the output of: [sigmund~ env] be the same (or very similar) to the output of [env~] I think there is a typo in the help file (where env == notes). but I get pretty wild output from sigmund that bears no relation (that I can hear) to the input sound envelope. I'm using pd-extended 0.40.3 Oded ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded o...@ccrma.stanford.edu ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] variance from mapping library
Is it really a negative number, or is it more like 9.74915e-05 ? In the latter case, only the exponent is negative, which means 9.74915/10/10/10/10/10 = 0.974915, whereas with a plus sign like 1.2e+06 would mean 1.2*10*10*10*10*10*10 = 120. I am getting a negative number occasionally. Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] variance from mapping library
and then changing 10 to 0 makes the result converge to -691.2. actually, afaik, [variance] doesn't have a bug by itself. The bug is in [mean_n], which displays similar behaviour in default mode. Yes that was my thought as well because the variance abstraction looks correct. The bug is because of algebraic assumptions that don't work with floats. With real numbers, a+b-a-b = 0, but with floats, a+b-a-b is only guaranteed to be a small number, that is, less than 2^24 times smaller than abs(a)+abs(b), or something like that. But 10*10 = 100, and if you divide that by 2^24 = 16777216, you get about 596, which is an upper bound for the amount of error: so, the error is surely between -596 and +596. I trust your math here but just notice that your example converges to -691. But if I understand you correctly 'filtering' the input data through [int] should make variance error free (we hope). thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] variance from mapping library
I'm not sure if it's a bug but: when using variance (from mapping library) - I get negative numbers. Since variance is supposed to be always positive and I don't see anything wrong in the way the abstraction is done, I presume there is something I'm missing. My impression is that small changes in the input translate to negative 'variance' ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded o...@ccrma.stanford.edu ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] adaptive amplification?
hello, I need to mic a player who will play either tiny, soft sounds (extended technique playing) or normal musical sounds soft-to-load. I want to mix the instrument sound with pd generated material BUT I want to amplify the soft sounds while only mixing a little bit of the normal sounds. Is there some clever way of making pd 'identify' the incoming sound and boost the signal when the input is the soft ones only? thanks Oded ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded o...@ccrma.stanford.edu ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] wireless contact mics
While not directly pd-question I thought someone might know: Does anyone have experience working with wireless contact mics? any recommendations on the not-so-very-expensive end of things? thanks Oded ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OSCx linux install
You should use OSC objects from mrpeach library in any case and (hopefully) you should be able to compile mrpeach library. I wanted to add OSCx to my pd Vanilla on Fedora10. I used the OSCx folder from the pd-externals tarball on sourceforge. I followed instructions in the readme, except there is no rule to make install. It built a libOSC.a, but I can't seem to figure out where to put the lib or any other needed files. For pd I used the GNU/Linux(source) Vanilla 0.41.4 on Fedora10. ./configure, make, install and installed to /usr/local. from command line: $ pd works fine. I tried placing OSC files in /usr/local/lib/pd/extras, but no joy. Without the install, I'm not sure where the files belong. Also I know there's a CCRMA rpm for f10, but prefer my own install at the moment. __ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. Get your Hotmail® account. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd + pulseaudio/alsa plug-in crashes hard
To add additional, freely named ALSA PCMs to Pd's device dropdown list use the -alsaadd command line option. For example say you have a custom PCM defined in your .asoundrc like this: hi, I have a pcm.quattro device defined in .asoundrc which bind 2 stereo devices to allow quad sound. And I can even get it to work(*). But: When I try to add it to pd it is only listed in the input devices: $ pd -alsa -alsaadd quattro -listdev input devices: 1. USB Audio Quattro (hardware) 2. USB Audio Quattro (plug-in) 3. HDA Intel (hardware) 4. HDA Intel (plug-in) 5. quattro output devices: 1. USB Audio Quattro (hardware) 2. USB Audio Quattro (plug-in) 3. HDA Intel (hardware) 4. HDA Intel (plug-in) 5. When I try to actually use it it fails with: output snd_pcm_delay failed: Input/output error astate 0 audio I/O stuck... closing audio SImilarly when I try with: -audioin 3 audioout 5 Somehow pd doesn't like it, any ideas why? thanks Oded (*) I am able to use the quattro device to play quad sound with clm/snd. No problems there. Sound playback is with sndplay and by setting MUS_ALSA_DEVICE=quattro it works. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gcanvas?
gcanvas is behaving differently in these two situations: linux (fc10) pd-0.39 object is gray and can resize correctly win pd-extended 0.40.3 object is white and resize changes the input area but not the object. Is it a feature or a bug? In both cases the values seems to be done correctly. Oded ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd zombies?
After failing to install pd (thorugh rpms or build pd-extended as is) on my newly installed FC8 x86_64 I compiled latest pd vanilla (0.41.4) + some of the libraries I'm using (e.g. zexy). While it compiled fine when I run it I get snd_pcm_hw_params_set_format: Invalid argument invalid command name .x1e036d0.m.windows Strangely enough I do get sound when I test. But if I quit and launch again it doesn't start. The process is there and I can't kill it (kill kill -9 killall pd as superuser) nothing seems to work. I'm using FC8 x86_64 ccrma.rt kernel 2.6.26.7-1.rt11.1.fc8.ccrmart Any ideas? ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] osc on winXP
I'm not sure it's a bug or I'm missing something. I am having problems with oscx objects (Pd version 0.40.3-extended-20080721): I can create [sendOSC] but not [dumpOSC] If I open the helpfile for dumpOSC it usually (but not always!) displays fine but if I try copy/paste to another patch it doesn't work. I tried adding [import]] [declare] to no avail (closing and opening the file as well as restarting pd in between). I also tried adding oscx to the path but that doesn't stick. I managed to add other directories to the load path and next time I start pd they are there. not when I tried oscx. And the dll files are there in the correct place. Is there some mysterious incantation? thanks Oded ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem seg fault on exit
Pd comes crushing down with a Seg fault everytime I close the gem window (sending destroy message after I stop the rendering). I'm running Pd0.39.3-extended-rc5 Gem 0.91-cvs On Linux FC8 (planetCCRMA packages). I tried to see if the simplest Gem examples seg fault on exit and they do. -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] multiple sound cards
configuring multiple sound cards in linux will depend somewhat on which version you're using. Here is some basic info for FC5 (as an example): ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/node5.html#SECTION00050800 My (meager) experience was that there might be issues with the order the cards are defined. My FC8 works fine as long as the USB card is the first (snd-card-0). -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pattern extraction/recognition
Hi, i'm looking for a way to make a patch that recognizes musical motifs from a flute player in real-time. The first problem is how accurate you expect the pattern recognition to be. I have a piece where I ask Pd to make binary descriminations on input from the flute player, in real time. It works fine. It is simple enough to get note information from fiddle~ and write that as a list or a table. The problem is that you won't get 100% of the flute notes (legato notes sometime don't trigger etc.) and the notes fiddle estimates are not always perfect. The next problem is how fast can pd process the list/table to identify pattern. That will depend on the length of the patterns (of course) but also the narrower the definition of what pd needs to look for the faster it can match (probably). To create a system that works for you, you will definately need to start with recordings before you have something to work with a player on. There is a fair ammount of research on music pattern recognition out there, though real-time is not a priority for most at this stage. Oded ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM- simple img texturing into a circle
Hello all, I am trying to do something which should be fairly easy: I am trying to see a circle that let's through an image that is behind it. (As if through a telescope...) Why not render the picture on a square/rectangle, and put a 'hole' in front of it (for instance a cylinder: make it very wide, thick, and short. rotate 90 degrees so we are looking 'throught' it). moving the picture your 'hole' in coordinated fashion back and forth could create a telescope like effect, no? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd performance practice
Dear all, A while ago I was trying to find 'good houskeeping tips' for using Pd in performance and couldn't find any (what to avoid, how to organize patches, etc.). does anyone know of something like this? If not where would be a good place to put such a resource? I presume that the collective (good as well as bad) experience could provide a useful resource for starting to use Pd in performance. -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] very slow metro?
Is there a downside to using a very slow metro object e.g. [metro 100] ? (in terms of cpu or memory usage). I am looking for the best way to get pd to do something every 15 or 30 minutes. thanks Oded -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] possible gem bug?
hi, I'm using the video capture from the builtin camera on a MacBookPro. when I try to change colorspace to rgb (either by sending colorspace message to [pix_video] or by converting the image with [pix_rgba] the pictures turns very blue. This doens't happen when I use [pix_yuv]. Is this a feature or a bug? Oded -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] camera setup with pix_video
I'm looking to but a cheap ($20) camera to use with PD/Gem on a MacPro (osx 10.4). Will most cameras be supporter (i.e. [pix_video] will work)? are their options to avoid? anyone has recomendations? I'm looking for fairly simple video capture option for experimenting sacrificing quality and portability and price. thanks -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] another small gem problem
It seems my Gem is missing [yuv2rgb] (and rgb2yuv ). A bit of history: I'm using pd0.39-extended from at.or.at, but that version of Gem had problems (see previous exchanges for the details) I replaced the pd.gem_drawin file from a more recent CVS version and that fixed many problems. I am running it on a macbook, osx10.4 [rgb2hsv] does exist. Thanks Oded -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] another small gem problem
these are now abstractions, you have to add the path were the Gem.pd_darwin lives to pd's search paths. the path is usually path-to-pd/extra/Gem/ Two quesion than: 1) as far as I could tell [rgb2hsv] and [rgb2yuv] exist in the same directory. and while gem finds the former it doesn't find the latter. Unless there is another version of [rgb2hsv] in the linrary as an object and not an abstraction? 2) This is just a stupid mac problem: When I look at the path settings in pd I only see a partial list (about 10 lines) how do I add another one, witout removing any of the existing paths? (when I tried replacing a existing entry that I don't use, and save the setting, it seems it only saved the first few entries visible on the screen and removed a dozen or so additional ones hidden from view). thanks Oded ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] another small gem problem
this might be the case: afaik [rgb2hsv] is also part of markEx (which used to be part of Gem but is no more; only the hsv-rgb functions have stayed as abstractions) do you have other markEx objects like [tripleLine]? Yes. that explains things thanks Oded ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] another small gem problem
which is ok, [hsv2rgb] is supposed to sit in the same directory as
Gem.pd_darwin;
ah i remember that [import] doesn't like that...
Actually Gem.pd_darwin got installed in
{..}/Resources/extra
while the hsv2rgb.pd file was installed at:
{..}/Resources/extra/Gem/
so they aren't in the same direcory.
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[PD] pix_video in OSX
Is the builtin camera supported somehow with pix_video, and if so how do I get it o work? If not is it possible to setup a video caputre under Mac intel OS10.4? thanks Oded -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gem problem
hi, I am finding that gem is doing things very differently in two versions. The attached patch is slightly simplified from what I am running but the essence is running 3 versions of the same movie on 3 'screens' using [pix_threshold] and [pix_alpha] to selectively hide elements of the pictures at the front. This works fine when I use pd-extended0.38 When I try it with pd-extended0.39 (from http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html ) it doesn't work. The pictures on the front 'screens' are all turned blueish but the selections aren't removed. I am running this on an intel Mac OSX10.4 I would be happy to stick with 0.38 but other things aren't working correctly with it, and I can't even run two versions in parallel because hans' version handles libraries internally, and gets confused when there is a preference file like the older version wants :( Any ideas? Thanks Oded ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] gem-test.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem problem
the color problem is a bug in the current gem version (I have the same problem). You can try to take the old gemversion you were using before and replace the buggy one. Is there a simple way to take Gem from the pd-extended instalation that where it works, and stick it in the Pd-extended instalation where it doesn't? I was looking through the directory where pd is intalled and couldn't find an obvious place (I'm very new to mac so I'm still struggling with where everything is and how to make changes. I looked for compiled versions of Gem and there aren't many for mac, and I can't even see which version of Gem is the one that's working because loading the old pd creates problems with new pd). the problem with demux is, that it is an abbreviation for demultiplex, and I don' think I am using demux in that patch. Oded ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gem problem
if you get wrong architecture that means you are using a gem that was compiled for another type of cpu. why don't you go to the page I posted earlier and chose a version that fits your computer. I also though so but when copied the Gem.pd_darwind from pd0.38-extended to pd0.39-extended I did get the wrong archiecture error. I think the 39 version was compiled slightly differenty (i doesn't use the normal preference file for example). So the problem isn't the powerPC vis. Intel (after all I can run the 0.38 version on the same computer). thanks Oded ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] object in which library?
Is there a list of which external library (e.g. zexy) contains which object? Since it seems I'll need to install pd-0.39 or 0.40 and pd-extended only manages 0.38. I tried installing a recent test build but got some wrong behaviour (with Gem), which means I'll have to try and install pd and than find which additional libraries I need. So is there a way to find which libraries contain which object I'm using? thanks -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] linux to osx
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote: afaik, the way how gop-(sub)patches are saved changed somewhere in the development of pd, though i can't recall which version change it was (0.38 - 0.39?). in case you use different pd versions on your mac and on your linux box, please make sure, that you have the same pd version on both and then try again. This is getting complicated: Linux version of PD is 0.39. for mac Pd-0.39 is only available for powerpc I'm running intelmac... I tried with pd-0.40 instead and it still get jumbled (i.e. patch created with 0.39 on linux, doesn't work with pd-0.40 on mac). Any other way of correcting the canvas definitions? thanks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] object in which library?
have a look at www.pdpedia.org. for example http://www.pdpedia.org/en/Category:zexy (the website is stil quite new) marius. Thanks. So I found that [fade~] is part of iemlib, but when I search pd site where I can download iemlib I can't find it. Searching iemlib lists various links to patches that (probably) require iemlib but not the library itself. (And I also just found that I'll have to compile Gem myself... I guess I was asking for trouble when I decided to experiment with MacOS and not stick with what I know.) ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] linux to osx
I am encountering a display problem when opening on a mac patches I created in linux. I get an error message: consistency check failed: canvas_create_editor And, indeed, in subpatches the graph-on-parent objects are all in the wrong places, on top another, and moving them doesn't affect how they look at the top patch. Any ideas how to make the patch useble? Oded -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] derivative?
DPCM is Differential pulse code modulation, and its possible to get an estimate of derivative with the right predictor. While the difference between the last two messages is an approximation of the derivative its is a really bad one so extrapulating on 4-points is much better. (dsp theory is really not my area but I'm sure some people will be able to explain much better about dpcm) What I'm looking for is a way to: (1) store the last 3 values in the series. (2) an estimate of the derivative should be x0 - 1/2 * x1 - 1/4 * x2 -1/4 * x3 (where x0 is the most recent element) (3) switch places so the x0-x1 x1-x2 x2-x3 ready to do it again. I'll try looking at list-abs (I think I tried poking around those on my office mac but pd-extended couldn't find them so I left it at that). thanks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] playback noise with video
I am getting noise and disruption to audio stream when I am using gem's pix_movie object. The noise happens only when I 'run' the movie. most of the time its in 'freeze frame' mode with some movement of the graphic objects (translation, rotation) and that works fine with the audio. But when Gem needs to play the movie I get audio problems. I am running it on a brand new G5 mac with 4gb RAM, and dual processor, which I thought should be enough processing power to run smoothly. Any ideas about ways of reducing this problem? I am trying to use dufferent encoders for the quicktime movie and, I think, some are worse than others, but I don't know enough about the differences to make any inform decisions. Anyone knows more about how Gem handles movies? Is it possible to set the system priorities on OSX to give audio higher priority? Any other ideas? thanks Oded ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] midi on OSX
I need help with I-Cube controllers under OSX. I am not a regular MAC user so I somehow messed things a bit. I was able to install the I-Cube and using the editor to set the controllers to pass midi messages into pd. It all worked fine till yesterday. Coming into my office today I found out that I lost PD on my MAC - When I first installed it I didn't know I was supposed to copy the pd-extended thing to my application folder so I guess it was installed but floating somewhere. I must have removed the installed version yesterday by accident (probably when I was trying to sort out the loading of additional libraries). So I installed PD again and this time copied the app and the library loader to their correct places. The result is that PD doesn't get midi messages from the controller anymore. (In addition it seems the old mac can't handle all these extra libraries - it stopped responding a few times so I removed the full loader file. But that didn't solve the midi problem). I am using a G4 Mac OS X 10.4.9 Any suggestions how to locate the problem and fix it? Thanks Oded ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem loading libraries
On your computer, where is mass.pd_linux located? Try one of these commands: Ok, now I found it: /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/ it seems all(?) object from extended libs are there somehow. thanks Oded ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] bowed string?
does anyone know of (or have) a working physical model of a bowed string for pd? and a related question: I managed to get a hold of a max file (a mac compiled file of some unknown sort - I know very little of max, and I couldn't open it on the demo version of msp which I downloaded to unloc the files secrets) of such a physical model, anyone know of a way to translate max to pd? thanks Oded -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problem loading libraries
That transcript means the libdir patch is included and working. Now just use the pmpd objects, like [mass]. Other than that there is not nearly enough info to see even what is going wrong. after disabling SElinux, I still can't use any pmpd pbjects and when I open one of the examples it can't find any of the pmpd specific objects. here is what I get from verbose when I try to use [mass] tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/mass.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mass.pd_linux and failed tried /mnt/shared/Oded/altoft/mass/mass.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/mass/mass.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mass/mass.pd_linux and failed tried /mnt/shared/Oded/altoft/mass.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/mass.pd and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mass.pd and failed tried /mnt/shared/Oded/altoft/mass.pat and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/mass.pat and failed tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mass.pat and failed mass ... couldn't create ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] problem loading libraries
after updating my linux (to FC5) I am unable to load additional libraries (like zexy, iemlib, etc). I have the files installed, I can see the lib_x.pd_linux file but when I start pd I get an error 'can't load library' (even if I add path to specific directory), and the added objects defined in the library don't work. pd -oss -path /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/ -lib zexy The only library that pd can load is Gem. (and I do have the help docs associated with the various libraries) I am running planetCCRMA FC5. any suggestions? Oded -- ___ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
