Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread hard off
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Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 02:12 +0900, hard off wrote: > this thread is brought to you by the letter [$0] and the word [kludge] > > > (i promise no more jokes for the next few weeks. my pd tracker is > starting to make sounds, so i have some drumloops to cut.) i am very ok with your jokes :-) bt

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread hard off
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Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Yes, you are correct that I was using it to speed normal patching, in this case I was generating patch-matrix toggle elements in a grid that communicated with a matrix object via $0 (the details of that are discussed in a previous thread of mine). I was cut-and-pasting them to other patches, so t

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Steffen
On 08/02/2007, at 14.45, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 14:21 +0100, Steffen wrote: On 08/02/2007, at 13.35, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: [...] as far as i can see it. the only case i could think of, that would require litteral

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: > On 08/02/2007, at 13.35, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > >Hallo, > >Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > >>[...] as far as > >>i can see it. the only case i could think of, that would require > >>litteral '$0's as abstraction arguments,

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 14:21 +0100, Steffen wrote: > On 08/02/2007, at 13.35, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > Hallo, > > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > >> [...] as far as > >> i can see it. the only case i could think of, that would require > >> litteral '$0's as abstraction a

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Steffen
On 08/02/2007, at 13.35, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: [...] as far as i can see it. the only case i could think of, that would require litteral '$0's as abstraction arguments, would be, if you would use dynamic patching just as a quicker way

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 13:35 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > anyway, why do you want to have a litteral '$0' in the abstraction > > argument and not the value, that it represents, since it is actually the > > same? if i am not totally

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > anyway, why do you want to have a litteral '$0' in the abstraction > argument and not the value, that it represents, since it is actually the > same? if i am not totally mistaken, this would only make sense, when you > plan to save the pat

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Patco
Roman Haefeli a écrit : hi luke On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 00:16 -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: Thanks to both of yas! Should probably add this to puredata.org or something for posterity. Or a bug report since it's obviously a kludge. a kludge? why? anyway, why do you want to have a

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Alexandre Quessy hat gesagt: // Alexandre Quessy wrote: > Yes. Either use [f $0], or a [makefilename %s-%s] or [makesymbol > %s-%s] with a [f $0] as argument. I think that [makesymbol] is > supposed to be deprecated, but I prefer its behaviour to the one of > [makefilename], and its name is

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi luke On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 00:16 -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: > Thanks to both of yas! Should probably add this to puredata.org or > something for posterity. Or a bug report since it's obviously a > kludge. a kludge? why? anyway, why do you want to have a litteral '$0' in the abstractio

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-08 Thread Patco
Luke Iannini (pd) a écrit : Hm... I'm not sure if your patch was supposed to "work" or demonstrate my issue, Chris... thanks for making it regardless : ). Alexandre, not sure what you're suggesting either since [f $0] would output the "value" of $0 rather than the actual characters "$0" hello,

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-07 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Hm... I'm not sure if your patch was supposed to "work" or demonstrate my issue, Chris... thanks for making it regardless : ). Alexandre, not sure what you're suggesting either since [f $0] would output the "value" of $0 rather than the actual characters "$0", which is what I'm after. Either way

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-07 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Hahaha : ). It was generating odd messages here, like [test $-7614554]. But I'm on an intel mac using Pd-Extended autobuilds, so that's probably normal. Yes, I think a character escaping mechanism would be a good thing, though of course escaping is already used in the pd-fileformat so who knows

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 12:16:02AM -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: > Hm... I'm not sure if your patch was supposed to "work" or demonstrate > my issue, Chris... thanks for making it regardless : ). It was supposed to solve your problem. > Thanks to both of yas! Should probably add this to pureda

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 07:54:40PM -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: > I'm trying to generate objects within a subpatch using [obj( messages, > and I want those generated objects to have $0 as one of their > arguments, e.g. [myobject $0]. Using [obj x y myobject $0( gives > [myobject 0] (I know $0 i

Re: [PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-07 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Yes. Either use [f $0], or a [makefilename %s-%s] or [makesymbol %s-%s] with a [f $0] as argument. I think that [makesymbol] is supposed to be deprecated, but I prefer its behaviour to the one of [makefilename], and its name is clearer. -- Alexandre Quessy http://alexandre.quessy.net 2007/2/7,

[PD] Dynamic generation of $0-including objects?

2007-02-07 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
I'm trying to generate objects within a subpatch using [obj( messages, and I want those generated objects to have $0 as one of their arguments, e.g. [myobject $0]. Using [obj x y myobject $0( gives [myobject 0] (I know $0 is not for messages, just thought I'd give that a try), and of course [list