On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sat, 10/17/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
in the end, people still choose to spend their time with
certain art and not certain other art, and this is
implicitly a judgement of value. those judgements are both
relativables and
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Fernando Gadea wrote:
Mathieu Bouchard escribió:
Is it because it makes the music any better, or because what musicians are
after is not just the music but also the dance that a musician makes with
the instrument?
In a physical instrument the position of the body when
I am not qualified to comment on this discussion, but I still will. Years
ago I read the Ostertag article (saw him in Berkeley in '95 at Bean Benders
and he was amazing), and this line stuck out:
Of all the ways that computers have been applied to music, sampling has had
the most radical impact.
Sory for the big delay, but I was really busy. I will try to answer in
between lines:
Mathieu Bouchard escribió:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Fernando Gadea wrote:
So they say that good piano players play with the whole body (same
for guitar or any physical instrument, I guess).
Is it because it
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Fernando Gadea wrote:
So they say that good piano players play with the whole body (same for guitar
or any physical instrument, I guess).
Is it because it makes the music any better, or because what musicians are
after is not just the music but also the dance that a
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Fernando Gadea wrote:
So they say that good piano players play with the whole body (same for
guitar or any physical instrument, I guess).
Is it because it makes the music any better, or because
of course music has to do with body and feedbacks ;
knowing that the arbitrary distance between body and mind is quite
cultural, what about cyborgs and cyborg's bodies ?
fred
chris clepper wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:39 PM, ydego...@gmail.com
mailto:ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com
Hey guys,
I just wanna say that in terms of live computer music, to me lack of physical
interaction makes it totally boring for me. When I've mentioned this to some
artists who's 'live performance' consists of them staring at a computer screen
hitting buttons-maybe there'll be some arbitrary
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:43:49 +
babsyco babsyco babs...@hotmail.com wrote:
If that's your attitude fine, but in that case what's the point of a live
performance at all
It's an fair question. The answer to that, for those of us that
do livecoding type perfomances, is the accompanying visual
john saylor escribi:
hola
hola john
thx for your thoughtful post.
thankyou for reading :)
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Fernando Gadea fga...@gmail.com wrote:
1- physical instruments
well, yes; body, rhythm,
She writes
continually
like a long nozzle
spraying
the air,
and she argues
continually;
theres is nothing
I can say
that is really not
something else,
so,
I stop saying
and finally
she argues herself
out the door
saying
something like —
I´m not trying to
impress my self upon you.
Charles
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:19:09 -0300
From: Gabriel Vinazza gabevina...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event
on the BBC
To: pd-list@iem.at
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I have been reading, silently, the discussion, which I
have really enjoyed. Here are some thoughts:
1- physical instruments
What I see in hardware/hands-in-stuff/instrumental
music is what I learned at school as "haptic" knowledge: Something like
body/muscles memory, that makes it possible
i really don't remember who brought that thing
of 'end of computer music' on that list,
i would mainly say, it's no good to limit oneself to computer
music, and generally for me, it's not enough.
i'm glad you quote Tarkowski and not another *kowski...
i like pan sonic
i like luc ferrari
i
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:39 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote:
i like luc ferrari
About 10-12 years ago I took Luc to a Chicago house club. He was really
into dance music in the 90s, and not so much into 'computer music'. He was
getting more inspiration from going to clubs than
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 12:44 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:09 PM, glerm soares wrote:
2009/9/4 glerm soares organi...@gmail.com
I have yet to see any computer or electronic music
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:40:20PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 02:35:00PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment :
wolf eyes, incapacitants,
ola,
Trying to think of a few releases that do it for me, that don't go for
the quantized clubstep grid or the usual academic Fast Fourier Tropes,
use computers and related technologies in a refreshing way and sound
really visceral and alive, off the top of my head I'd say:
Kevin Drumm -
Analog - kinda... I saw Merzbow at Highbury Islington
back in 1992/3. His stage act was a chain
of fx pedals and guitar, and electric drill/grinder
wheel.
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:35:00 +0200
ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
ola,
Trying to think of a few releases that do it
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:35 AM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote:
as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment :
wolf eyes, incapacitants, macronympha, to live and shave in L.A., kk null,
...
'The King of Noise' Boyd Rice made some of the best noise records
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 02:35:00PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment :
wolf eyes, incapacitants, macronympha, to live and shave in L.A., kk
null, ...
Pretty sure I saw two kaoss pads on stage when kk null was playing.
Chris.
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 02:35:00PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment :
wolf eyes, incapacitants, macronympha, to live and shave in L.A., kk
null, ...
Pretty sure I saw two kaoss pads on stage when
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:40:20PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 02:35:00PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment :
wolf eyes, incapacitants, macronympha, to live and shave in L.A.,
This is the band I most enjoy recently:
http://www.slavicsoulparty.com/
I have yet to see any computer or electronic music show that can hold
a candle to the feeling of being packed into a room of people dancing
face-to-face with 9 musicians pouring their guts into completely
physical
I have yet to see any computer or electronic music show that can hold a
candle to the feeling of being packed into a room of people dancing
face-to-face with 9 musicians pouring their guts into completely physical
instruments.
same for satanique samba trio:
2009/9/4 glerm soares organi...@gmail.com
I have yet to see any computer or electronic music show that can hold a
candle to the feeling of being packed into a room of people dancing
face-to-face with 9 musicians pouring their guts into completely physical
instruments.
we don't even need
On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:09 PM, glerm soares wrote:
2009/9/4 glerm soares organi...@gmail.com
I have yet to see any computer or electronic music show that can
hold a candle to the feeling of being packed into a room of people
dancing face-to-face with 9 musicians pouring their guts into
When there's finally a computer that sounds its best after I've pounded
the living hell out of it and sweat all over it for at least 4 hours,
then I might get more interested in live computer music again. Hunting
and pecking at the keyboard while you IRC with your coding buddies is a
poor
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Chris McCormick wrote:
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:40:20PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
classification analog/digital is very arbitrary,
as all use both, like pan sonic uses a lot of electronics,
i don't know why they will still be classified in computer music,
maybe the
So let's see, it was 1996, and Bob's making noises like Jungle,
DrumBass or some other megatrend crowdpleaser just arrived to save him
from the avant-hegemony of the elbow patch professor crowd's software
diddlings. About the same time, Paul Miller aka DJ Spooky was lamenting
how jazz has been
http://bobostertag.com/writings-articles-computer-music-sucks.htm
(this link does not necessarily represent the views or opinions of
the sender)
Could someone please write an article
All-of-these-[something]-sucks-articles-really-suck? I find them so
boring, superficial and unproductive.
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 03:23:17PM +0200, Lorenzo wrote:
http://bobostertag.com/writings-articles-computer-music-sucks.htm
(this link does not necessarily represent the views or opinions of
the sender)
Could someone please write an article
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote:
(No I'm not anywhere near being banked by Mego, these just happened all to
be sitting near the top of the pile due to repeated listening...although
finding much computer music at all around my house is a bit of a
challenge!)
what is that obsession of winning and loosing,
failing and suceeding ?
we were only speaking of the impact
of computer music in the western culture,
i don't see the point or do you call bob ostertag a looser?
anyway, that video about 'thinking positive'
is really like wasp propaganda,
why not a
loser?
Or looser, like less up-tight?
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:44:15 +0200
ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
what is that obsession of winning and loosing,
failing and suceeding ?
we were only speaking of the impact
of computer music in the western culture,
i don't see the
Yves: good point!
I haven't seen the video because I can't play flash videos. Sorry if I
subjected you to something awful.
Developersdevelopersdevelopers,
Chris.
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 04:44:15PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
what is that obsession of winning and loosing,
failing and
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Derek Holzer wrote:
(I might argue that something called the 1980's killed it already...who
actually listens to the last couple drum machine- and sampler-plagued
Miles Davis records? Bob O?). The high culture vs low culture thing
was very big that decade if I remember
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