[PD] Call For Works - Seoul International Computer Music Festival 2017

2017-02-06 Thread Jonghyun Kim
*Call For Works - Seoul International Computer Music Festival 2017* * The submission deadline is extended to March 6. The Korea Electro-Acoustic Music Society is proud to announce the Seoul International Computer Music Festival (SICMF) 2017. This year we collaborate with Asia Culture Center

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-02-06 18:51 GMT-02:00 : > On 02/06/2017 09:03 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > but being "vanilla" has little to do with being "external" or not. > ok, but it's not the first time somebody asks something like this and that [expr~] solutions aren't considered

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2017-02-06 16:24]: > On 02/06/2017 10:03 PM, Matt Barber wrote: > > These are probably more efficient than expr~ > > speaking of performance: zexy's binops should definitely be fastest (as > they are actively optimized). > > but as christoph said: these

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/06/2017 10:03 PM, Matt Barber wrote: > These are probably more efficient than expr~ speaking of performance: zexy's binops should definitely be fastest (as they are actively optimized). but as christoph said: these objects are most likely not the performance bottle-necks of your anyhow,

Re: [PD] message to pd to get used absractions/externals of a patch?

2017-02-06 Thread Dan Wilcox
You can also put abstraction libraries into the “libs” folder in PdParty. Anything inside is automatically added to the search path, so you can centralize those abstractions between separate projects. > On Feb 6, 2017, at 10:16 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: bensonlist

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Matt Barber
These are probably more efficient than expr~ On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Christof Ressi wrote: > > - iirc cyclone provides them too > > yes, part of the 'nettles' lib (which comes with cyclone). At least that's > true for the old cyclone which came with Pd extended.

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/06/2017 09:03 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > but even extra objects are "vanilla" right? but being "vanilla" has little to do with being "external" or not. fmgdas IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [PD] message to pd to get used absractions/externals of a patch?

2017-02-06 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/06/2017 05:50 PM, bensonlist wrote: > the reason for this is, i just started to use pdparty on an ipad (very > successfully). And just for now, i transferred only the used abstractions to > the ipad. but i use more and more of them... and i'm not sure if it is a > clever idea to transfer

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread zmoelnig
On 02/06/2017 06:18 PM, Giulio Moro via Pd-list wrote: >> I don't know why [expr~] is usually not considered vanilla because it used to be not part of Pd. technically, an external is a nobject that lives outside the main binary of Pd. since all the objects in extra/ are not part of the Pd binary,

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Christof Ressi
Thanks for clarifying! :-)   Gesendet: Montag, 06. Februar 2017 um 18:25 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" An: "Christof Ressi" Cc: pd-list Betreff: Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects? 2017-02-06 11:02

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-02-06 11:02 GMT-02:00 Christof Ressi : > > - iirc cyclone provides them too > > yes, part of the 'nettles' lib (which comes with cyclone). At least that's > true for the old cyclone which came with Pd extended. > not actually true... cyclone, in Pd Extended, up to

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
yeah, it's confusing, but it's just "more" stuff into the vanilla package 2017-02-06 15:18 GMT-02:00 Giulio Moro : > > I don't know why [expr~] is usually not considered vanilla > > Maybe because it lives in extra/ instead of src/ ? > > What is extra/ there for, by the way?

Re: [PD] message to pd to get used absractions/externals of a patch?

2017-02-06 Thread bensonlist
> > -> include the whole library thank you! ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Giulio Moro via Pd-list
> I don't know why [expr~] is usually not considered vanilla Maybe because it lives in extra/ instead of src/ ? What is extra/ there for, by the way? I remember it being mentioned in msp's paper that introduced [pd~], but not sure why it is still there. Giulio

Re: [PD] message to pd to get used absractions/externals of a patch?

2017-02-06 Thread baptiste chatel
- many libraries use their own abstractions as bricks for other abstractions - pd patches are usually light (< 1 mo) unless big big tables are stored - finding and sorting unused components is a long task -> include the whole library 2017-02-06 17:50 GMT+01:00 bensonlist : >

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-02-06 11:00 GMT-02:00 Peter P. : > > Thanks IOhannes and Roman! Funny there are no internal objects for this. > best, P > [expr~] is an internal 2017-02-06 11:11 GMT-02:00 cyrille henry : > > for a vanilla only solution, you can use tabread~ with a

[PD] message to pd to get used absractions/externals of a patch?

2017-02-06 Thread bensonlist
Dear pd-users, is there a possibility to send a message to pd to get the used abstractions and externals (beside vanilla) of an open patch? the reason for this is, i just started to use pdparty on an ipad (very successfully). And just for now, i transferred only the used abstractions to the

Re: [PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 14:07, Peter P. wrote: >> this is a left-over from the days of the pipe-dreams of co-existing >> pd-vanilla and pd-extended Debian packages. > And could be consolidated maybe even? well, i don't see any harm in being open to multiple (binary compatible) implementations. i don't see

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Matt Davey
yes, expr~ is now vanilla. use that ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 14:11, cyrille henry wrote: >> Funny there are no internal objects for this. > for a vanilla only solution, hmm, [expr~] *is* vanilla. fgmasdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread cyrille henry
Le 06/02/2017 à 14:00, Peter P. a écrit : * IOhannes m zmoelnig [2017-02-06 07:45]: On 2017-02-06 13:34, Peter P. wrote: Hi list, this seems to be easy but I can't figure it out: How can I test an audio signal to lie within a certain range, or just if it is bigger or

Re: [PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread Peter P.
Hi, * IOhannes m zmoelnig [2017-02-06 07:53]: > On 2017-02-06 13:41, Peter P. wrote: > > Not really. I just prefer to have files and folders once on my system if > > that's sufficient for proper operation as it is easier to remember and > > maintain for me. > > actually, the

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
On 06/02/17 12:45, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mon, 2017-02-06 at 07:34 -0500, Peter P. wrote: >> Are there <~ an >~ objects or >> equivalents? > > The zexy library comes with [<~] and [>~] (and a couple of other signal > comparators). You can also use [expr~] (built-in vanilla) for these.

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Christof Ressi
> - iirc cyclone provides them too yes, part of the 'nettles' lib (which comes with cyclone). At least that's true for the old cyclone which came with Pd extended. Also note that [expr~] is slower than the zexy and nettles externals. But sigops are usually not the bottleneck of a patch :-).

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmoelnig [2017-02-06 07:45]: > On 2017-02-06 13:34, Peter P. wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > this seems to be easy but I can't figure it out: > > > > How can I test an audio signal to lie within a certain range, or just if > > it is bigger or smaller than a reference

Re: [PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 13:41, Peter P. wrote: > Not really. I just prefer to have files and folders once on my system if > that's sufficient for proper operation as it is easier to remember and > maintain for me. actually, the /usr/lib/... is just a symlink to /usr/share/..., so the files are indeed only

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2017-02-06 at 07:34 -0500, Peter P. wrote: > Hi list, > > this seems to be easy but I can't figure it out: > > How can I test an audio signal to lie within a certain range, or just > if > it is bigger or smaller than a reference value, and receive the > result > as an audio signal as

Re: [PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 13:34, Peter P. wrote: > Hi list, > > this seems to be easy but I can't figure it out: > > How can I test an audio signal to lie within a certain range, or just if > it is bigger or smaller than a reference value, and receive the result > as an audio signal as well? Are there <~ an

Re: [PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmoelnig [2017-02-06 07:18]: > On 2017-02-06 13:09, Peter P. wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > using the amazing Debian packages of Pd and am puzzled to find that the > > following two paths seem owned by the same package puredata-core and > > seem to exist twice: > > >

[PD] test audio signals: Are there <~ and >~ objects?

2017-02-06 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, this seems to be easy but I can't figure it out: How can I test an audio signal to lie within a certain range, or just if it is bigger or smaller than a reference value, and receive the result as an audio signal as well? Are there <~ an >~ objects or equivalents? I am having problems

Re: [PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 13:09, Peter P. wrote: > Hi list, > > using the amazing Debian packages of Pd and am puzzled to find that the > following two paths seem owned by the same package puredata-core and > seem to exist twice: > > peter@computer:~$ dpkg-query -S /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff >

[PD] puredata-core installing documentation twice on Debian?

2017-02-06 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, using the amazing Debian packages of Pd and am puzzled to find that the following two paths seem owned by the same package puredata-core and seem to exist twice: peter@computer:~$ dpkg-query -S /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff puredata-core: /usr/lib/puredata/doc/7.stuff peter@comouter:~$

Re: [PD] "sorry: only 5 args typechecked; use A_GIMME"

2017-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-06 07:42, Chris Chronopoulos wrote: > Code is attached. Any suggestions? What's this typechecking/A_GIMME Pd has special, "optimized" functions to check the types of arguments. basically, if you have a callback function (and from a pure "C" perspective, the class-methods of an objects