Re: [PD] Once again, -guiport -nogui

2016-09-04 Thread Miller Puckette
I think this was once possible to do but apparently it isn't possible any longer. On the other hand, if you'e trying to connect a pd process on one computer with a GUI process on another one, that should be doable using something like pd -guicmd "ssh machine-name wish /home/msp/pd/tcl//pd-gui.tcl

Re: [PD] Package and sources for complex-mod~ and hilbert~ ?

2016-08-29 Thread Miller Puckette
It should be included in vanilla, in "Pd.app/Contenrs/Resources/extra". It should be automatically found by Pd as long as "use standard extensions" is checked in the "path" preferences dialog (which it normally should be by default). cheers Miller On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 04:32:03PM -0400, Angelo

Re: [PD] lock free problem

2016-08-23 Thread Miller Puckette
mechanics is a > good solution? > "Generate Pd messages from outside the main thread" means to generate > something in Pd, i.e. with a multithreaded externals, but from a child > thread? > > Best, > > Marco > > 2016-08-23 18:54 GMT+02:00 Miller Puckette :

Re: [PD] lock free problem

2016-08-23 Thread Miller Puckette
r thread? > > Best, > Marco > > 2016-08-23 18:13 GMT+02:00 Miller Puckette : > > > There's a good, byte-stream lock-free fifo in pd/src/s_audio_paring.c . > > (It's borrowed from portaudio). The difficulty there would be the > > necessity &

Re: [PD] lock free problem

2016-08-23 Thread Miller Puckette
There's a good, byte-stream lock-free fifo in pd/src/s_audio_paring.c . (It's borrowed from portaudio). The difficulty there would be the necessity of encoding everything into byte streams. Perhaps just sprintf/sscanf will do it for you. cheers Miller On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 03:49:20PM +0200, M

Re: [PD] when is it necessary to manually free inlets/outlets?

2016-08-09 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe the only situation in which you have to free an inlet or outlet explicitly is when you're dynamically adding/deleting them from pre-existing objects as a result of interior state changes (usually, sub-patches creating/deleting them, or on mumber boxes, making or deleting them as a result

Re: [PD] pd 0.47 cnv color msg bug

2016-08-07 Thread Miller Puckette
Or to run the patches as they were, "pd -compatibility 0.46". But I think the old argument style was incoherent enough to regard it as a bug. cheers Miller On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 08:19:01PM +0200, Jack wrote: > > Hello, > > According to the help of 5.reference/canvas-help.pd, only the first a

Re: [PD] Experiencing a higher CPU load with 0.47-0 and 0.47-1.

2016-08-03 Thread Miller Puckette
n the "64 bit" compile > > ran in about 85% of the CPU load that the non-64-bit version did. Perhaps > > you're comparing 0.46 634 bit with 0.47 32 bit? > > > > cheers > > Miller > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 09:19:35AM -0700, Mill

Re: [PD] Experiencing a higher CPU load with 0.47-0 and 0.47-1.

2016-08-02 Thread Miller Puckette
. Perhaps you're comparing 0.46 634 bit with 0.47 32 bit? cheers Miller On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 09:19:35AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > Yes, the whole thing is baffling, but I gather something changed from 0.46 > to 0.47 ... I've gt a coupld of benchmark patches I can try to see i

Re: [PD] pd-vanilla build error on Odroid c2 (linkage problem?)

2016-08-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Oops! My bad, should be fixed in git repo now. M On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 01:04:24AM +0100, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > On 02/08/16 00:56, angelo.arc...@virgilio.it wrote: > >undefined reference to `glist_reloadingabstraction' > > This is a bug introduced by the latest git commit. I don't kno

Re: [PD] current status of [midiout]

2016-07-28 Thread Miller Puckette
My plan is simply never to make any incompatible change if I can help it - so midiout is there for good. I don't see the need for any 'sysexout' object - 'midiout' does sysex and/or whatever else you want to throw at it. On linux you can even use it to output incorrectly formed MIDI if you want -

Re: [PD] vline~ helpfile

2016-07-24 Thread Miller Puckette
Excellent suggestion, thanks. Miller On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:14:51AM +0200, hans w. koch wrote: > thanks miller and school shoes, > > my problem was grasping the „initial delay“ concept: its not adding one after > the other but always refering to timepoint 0. > (my long years of working with

Re: [PD] vline~ helpfile

2016-07-23 Thread Miller Puckette
It ramps up, then jumps down to zero and starts a second ramp up - the whole show takes 2 seconds. cheers Miller On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 01:53:19AM +0200, hans w. koch wrote: > hello, > > maybe i am doing something stupid, but i don´t get the vline~ synthax: > the helpfile states: "Any number of

Re: [PD] puredata preferences ? ...

2016-07-18 Thread Miller Puckette
It's in the "registry", under "Software\\Pd", in the "local machine" area. cheers Miller On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 03:49:27PM +0200, oliver wrote: > hi, > > can anybody tell me where PD's preferences are stored on a w32 system ? > > "puredata.info" says: >

Re: [PD] list devices without starting PD

2016-07-15 Thread Miller Puckette
This might work: pd -stderr -listdev -nogui -send "pd quit" (This puts the info out on the standard error, not standard out; I'm not sure whether you can redirect standard error in windows.) cheers Miller On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 09:48:29PM +0200, oliver wrote: > hi, dear list ! > > i tried to

Re: [PD] Cannot change blocksize (Mac OS X)

2016-07-05 Thread Miller Puckette
eally the same as delay in ms? > > cheers > > 2016-07-05 17:05 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette : > > > It seems to be only needed on windows systems - I've had to push it to > > 4096 > > at times. > > > > cheers > > M > > On Tue, Jul 05, 201

Re: [PD] Cannot change blocksize (Mac OS X)

2016-07-05 Thread Miller Puckette
It seems to be only needed on windows systems - I've had to push it to 4096 at times. cheers M On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 05:00:19PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > out of curiosity, when is it needed in other OS? > cheers > > 2016-07-05 16:27 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckett

Re: [PD] Cannot change blocksize (Mac OS X)

2016-07-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all - I should just disable block-size setting on Mac. It's never needed. (There's an I/O blocksize control in Max/MSP that actually sets latency; this is done in Pd using the "Delay" setting instead.) cheers Miller On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 12:08:24PM -0700, Jesse Mejia wrote: > I experienc

Re: [PD] infinite loops

2016-07-03 Thread Miller Puckette
This needs improvement :) M On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:25:51PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > how long does an infinite loop last? > > [bang( > | > [until] > > i was amazed¹ to see how fast time flies by. > is the time-bending intentional? > > gmads > IOhannes > > ¹ or not - as i stumbled

Re: [PD] nice pd patch

2016-06-29 Thread Miller Puckette
Terrible dreams coming tonight :) On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 01:25:46AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > A friend of mine thought it was fun to do this > > [image: Imagem inline 1] > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and accou

Re: [PD] Experiencing a higher CPU load with 0.47-0 and 0.47-1.

2016-06-27 Thread Miller Puckette
Yes, the whole thing is baffling, but I gather something changed from 0.46 to 0.47 ... I've gt a coupld of benchmark patches I can try to see if I can see what's going on. cheers Miller On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:14:56PM +0200, cyrille henry wrote: > > > Le 27/06/2016 11:58, Dario Sanfilippo a

Re: [PD] [textfile] CR in reality is LF

2016-06-23 Thread Miller Puckette
That is confusing... in every OS (windows, Mac, linux/unix) th file written out has only unix-style line feeds to separate lines. I thought it was a better idea to maintain exactly the same file format than to vary it to be the most "native" possible one. Very old Windows programs sometimes got c

Re: [PD] multiple definition of "glist_reloadingabstraction"

2016-06-22 Thread Miller Puckette
I've updated the Pd source to make the change... I think you can just update your Pd submodule to fix it in your project. cheers Miller On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:32:23PM +0200, Antoine Villeret wrote: > Hi, > > The Jamoma library [1] fails to build since 035844b2 [2] with : > multiple definitio

Re: [PD] Dynamic Patching with 0.47

2016-06-19 Thread Miller Puckette
I made some changes in the "find" dialog and its communications with Pd - sorry if this has (apparently) mixed things up. (I keep wanting to make some sort of "delete" message to canvases but can't figure out what would be a usable design). Miller On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 01:36:00AM +0200, Thoma

[PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-1 released

2016-06-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Pd 0.47-1 is out. Main changes are improvements to the deken plug-in ("find externals" menu item) and to the "clone" object. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce __

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-14 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm just trying to fix a bug or two... but who knows how long that might take. cheers M On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 09:42:19PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > btw, roughly when could we see a 0.47-1 update? > > cheers > > 2016-06-14 21:32 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette :

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-14 Thread Miller Puckette
It's working for me. I've taken teh liberty of adding an "OK/cancel" confirnation that prints where the thing will get installed. (This is default behavior of apt-get, etc. so it's not too nutty of me to think this is a reasonable step. It's much less invasive than throwing the file chooser up a

Re: [PD] inquire block size

2016-06-11 Thread Miller Puckette
Sample rate and block sizes can change as a result of messages to "block" objects. This causes DSP to be re-sorted. The only safe way I know to determine block size is to make a tilde object with a signal input or output and catch "dsp" messages. cheers Miller On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:02:47PM

Re: [PD] high-frequency birdsong

2016-06-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Strange kinda bird you've got there... If you use a standard 44K1 audio interface, everything above Nyquist gets filtered out before conversion. You could in principle use a 1GhZ-bandwidth sample/hold clocked at 44K1 - this would effectively alias everything down to audio frequencies (folded over

Re: [PD] opening [text define]

2016-06-02 Thread Miller Puckette
It's not documented (intended for internal use but certainly stable) - just send it "click". To close it again, send it "close" - but unfortunately any edits won't be kept unless you've hit "send" inside the text window. cheers Miller On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 12:44:32PM +0100, Liam Goodacre wrot

Re: [PD] vanilla solution for random float

2016-05-31 Thread Miller Puckette
I just tried "random 1e8" and "/ 1e8" and it seems to work for me. If it doens't for you that's a bug I should look at :) cheers Miller On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 04:48:59PM +0200, apva...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 31, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Raphaël Ilias wrote: > > >

Re: [PD] font problem / ubuntu 16.04

2016-05-25 Thread Miller Puckette
It's true... on some linux boxes one actually sees a font family named "Courrier 10 Pitch". It comes in one font size :) I guess there are still problems specifying font families with enmedded whitespace. Ouch... M On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 08:26:30PM +0200, cyrille henry wrote: > > > Le 25/05

Re: [PD] [initbang] in Pd.0.47

2016-05-22 Thread Miller Puckette
C: pd-list@lists.iem.at > > Subject: Re: [PD] [initbang] in Pd.0.47 > > > > cool, found it and hopefuly fixed it. > > > > cheers > > M > > > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:02:29AM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > > On 05/16/2016 09:56 PM,

Re: [PD] how to get GEM working in Vanilla?

2016-05-19 Thread Miller Puckette
I've seen this once before and don't know what's causing it... anyone else having trouble getting preferences to stay around in Windows? thanks Miller On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 02:50:07PM +0200, ro...@dds.nl wrote: > Derek Kwan schreef op 19-05-2016 10:25: > >> > >>forgot to mention: that doesn't h

Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number

2016-05-18 Thread Miller Puckette
e everything is broken into modules which > > > themselves contain other modules etc. The first module in the tree takes > > > an ID as an *creation argument* and passes it down do its submodules. > > > Something like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gesendet:

Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number

2016-05-18 Thread Miller Puckette
tc. The first module in the tree takes an > ID as an *creation argument* and passes it down do its submodules. Something > like that. >   >   > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016 um 22:40 Uhr > Von: "Matt Barber" > An: "Christof Ressi" > Cc: "M

Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 134, Issue 119

2016-05-18 Thread Miller Puckette
... which is why makefile.mac doesnt use the portaudio make structure at all. It just compiles the files using good old cc. I don't know why this wouldn't work even in recent OSXes. But apparently it somehow manages to fail. Anyhow, that's a different problem from getting automake to work. If s

Re: [PD] dump contents of array to list in pd vanilla? [tabdump]

2016-05-18 Thread Miller Puckette
[array get]. cheers Miller On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:48:01PM -0300, Paul Keyes wrote: > Is there a way to dump the contents of an array to a list in pd vanilla? > Equivalent to what [tabdump] does? > (Other than using [tabdump] from zexy) > ___ > Pd-l

Re: [PD] help compiling vanilla on mac

2016-05-18 Thread Miller Puckette
... so I guess it can't be done on your system. (I'm using 10.6 to compile. I always keep my MacOS as old as I possibly can so that when I compile Pd it can run on the widest possible number of machines.) But perhaps you can add teh -Wno-deprecated -Wno-error C compiler flags to makefile.mac and

Re: [PD] help compiling vanilla on mac

2016-05-18 Thread Miller Puckette
Just in case it helps... my own procedure is i the git repo as mac/build-macosx and ...build-mac64 . These assum that you've built files wish-shell.tgz and Info.plist in a subdirectory "stuff". You can get these by looking inside Pd for info.plist, and by archiving a "wish Shell.app" from your sy

Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number

2016-05-18 Thread Miller Puckette
e (and could also encourage other > >usages for [clone]). > > > >Anyway, I can totally live without this feature, but would be happy to > >have it :-). > > > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2016 um 02:35 Uhr > >> Von: "Miller Puckette" >

Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number

2016-05-17 Thread Miller Puckette
] and $1 $2 $3 will be substituted by 5 > 6 7 instead of [N] 5 6. This way you could use existing abstractions as they > are, without the need for writing a wrapper abstraction to handle the > creation argument forwarding. > > Christof > > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. M

Re: [PD] no more Nan display in Pd, why?

2016-05-17 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm... something seems horribly wrong... I'll find some time tomight to look closer. thanks M On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 01:13:37PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Howdy, the newer versions of Pd filter out "Nan" in number/atom boxes, > right? Pd-Extended 0.42 and Pd-L2ork still output 'nan'

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-16 Thread Miller Puckette
first. > > Personally vote for (a) > > mfG > Winfried > > PS:For config file i start an own discussion ( now it is ~/.pdsettings and > should move to .config/pd/settings.conf) > > > Am Montag, 9. Mai 2016, 10:27:32 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: > > On 2016-

Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number

2016-05-16 Thread Miller Puckette
n > > arguments just as they are. > > > > This wouldn't break the current behaviour of [clone], but provide some > > functionality to deal with ordinary abstractions more conveniently. > > > > Christof > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [PD] [initbang] in Pd.0.47

2016-05-16 Thread Miller Puckette
cool, found it and hopefuly fixed it. cheers M On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:02:29AM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 05/16/2016 09:56 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > > It's not intentional.. and I can't see why this is happening. > > > > Anyway, I'm sorry

Re: [PD] [text] gives output also when line-number out of range?

2016-05-16 Thread Miller Puckette
I don't know what the most desirable behavior would be... the 'bang' is to indicate that there's nothing there. I don't know if this is less or more trouble to dealwith in the majority of cases. In my imagination at least, one would query the text for the number of lines if one wanted to. Anyhow

Re: [PD] [initbang] in Pd.0.47

2016-05-16 Thread Miller Puckette
It's not intentional.. and I can't see why this is happening. Anyway, I'm sorry to have to ask this, but where can I get eh new initbang? (Deken doesn't find it, hmm...) I can't test without it. thanks Miller On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 01:52:07PM +0100, Liam Goodacre wrote: > This behavior is docu

Re: [PD] For sample players based on [line~], [vline~], or [phasor~], how can we be sure all samples are being played?

2016-05-16 Thread Miller Puckette
I think what's confusing is that vline~ (if given the messages: 0 1 1.451247 makes a segment from 0 to 1 lasting exactly 64 samples (assuming a sample rate of 44100 so that 1.451247 msec is 64 samples). It does this, but the endpoints of the segment are places at the end of the previous block and

Re: [PD] For sample players based on [line~], [vline~], or [phasor~], how can we be sure all samples are being played?

2016-05-14 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe that vline~ output is more nearly correct than line~. It seems appropriate to pre-increment the output as vline~ and phasor~ do. Note that the previous sample was 0, so that there is in fact a ramp from 0 to 64 that lasts exactly 65 samples and has a slope of exactly (sample rate). che

Re: [PD] LibPd on microcontroller

2016-05-13 Thread Miller Puckette
Yes. (Max/FTS, 1990)... not with this partiular codebase. But it would be great if it were possible to supply open/read/write/close, etc., to Pd as a library faked as in Max/FTS so that it could run on a no-OS processor. cheers Miller On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 02:03:37AM +0300, Chuckk Hubbard wr

Re: [PD] error installing Pd 0.47 OSX

2016-05-11 Thread Miller Puckette
That was in response to the opposite feedback I was getting, for instance here: https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2016-05/114538.html ... so does this mean Pd should zoom in for either cmd-= OR cmd-+? cheers Miller On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 09:17:45PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >

Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number

2016-05-11 Thread Miller Puckette
I gave this some thought but couldn't come up with anything more natural than the "$1" idea. It allows for changing the other arguments more easily than it would have been if the instance number were passed last. Also, somehow it felt more natural to have the instance number first. If there's in

Re: [PD] [clone]'s instance number

2016-05-11 Thread Miller Puckette
However, I was also asked that - so I think I should add something to the example to show it :) M On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 04:25:16PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2016-05-11 16:18, Liam Goodacre wrote: > > Would it be possible to access [clone]'s unique instance number from within > > t

Re: [PD] knobs in 0.47

2016-05-10 Thread Miller Puckette
Maybe both -- I'll grab the old iemgui_all_colfromload and throw it in "patch level 1" (in a week or so?) and add a message saying it's obsolete. Then once it looks like someone's updated all the non-vanilla GUI objects I can delete it again. cheers Miller On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 05:15:41PM +020

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.47-0 released

2016-05-08 Thread Miller Puckette
Pd version 0.47-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or via git from sourceforge: git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listi

Re: [PD] Dynamic search paths and [declare] behavior in Pd.0.47

2016-05-08 Thread Miller Puckette
OK... so as a fall-back I'll just fix it so that setting Pd compatibility to 0.46 makes declare fall back to the old behavior. Meanwhile a "real" fix is needed... cheers M On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 11:07:15PM +0200, Jérôme Abel wrote: > > if [import] can indeed be used > > In fact, it seems that

Re: [PD] Import. Was: Dynamic search paths and [declare] behavior in Pd.0.47

2016-05-08 Thread Miller Puckette
At any rate, if [import] can indeed be used in Jérôme Abel's situation, then he can include a compiled version of [import] with his library, and the main enabline abstraction can then invoke it. This might be the cleanest way forward. thanks Miller On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 12:18:28PM +0200, Fred

Re: [PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

2016-05-08 Thread Miller Puckette
Aha... thanks. I still regret messing that convention... M On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 08:38:03PM +0900, Max wrote: > On 2016년 05월 08일 01:53, Miller Puckette wrote: > > In fact Max uses some Pd code inside it. I released Pd under BSD license > > partly to encourage that possibility.

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-08 Thread Miller Puckette
I tried that too - (as in http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/z.zip) - opened "a.pd", got help on [z], no problem - there must be something I'm missing... thanks Miller On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 06:57:28AM +0100, Liam Goodacre wrote: > I wasn't using the -path flag, just trying to call a help file for an > a

Re: [PD] What is the current, correct way to use Open Sound Control with PD?

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
check out oscparse and oscformat in vanilla. cheers Miller On Sun, May 08, 2016 at 01:14:48AM -0300, Paul Keyes wrote: > I need to use OSC. I had been using mrpeach in pd-extended, but I see that > pd-extended is no longer recommended, and it won't compile for my system > anyway (I'm using unbun

Re: [PD] Dynamic search paths and [declare] behavior in Pd.0.47

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
[declare] something else. > > -Jonathan > > > > On Saturday, May 7, 2016 8:40 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > > > I don't regard this as a patch-level incompatibility (I believe you can run > all > the patches -- only now you'll have to add 6 directories to

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
by all users... cheers M On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 08:32:46PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 05/04/2016 11:53 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > > I believe it should be just the one. But I'm a scope conservative > > (despite the contradictory evidence that Pd has, in fact, no

Re: [PD] number box bug?

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
It's not intentional but I don't really know what the action should be. (I put this in place before there was a toggle :) M On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:00:22AM +0100, Simon Iten wrote: > is it intentional that alt-click resets to zero even if lower bounds are not > zero? i think that at least fo

Re: [PD] Dynamic search paths and [declare] behavior in Pd.0.47

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
I don't regard this as a patch-level incompatibility (I believe you can run all the patches -- only now you'll have to add 6 directories to Pd's search path). But it's a serious inconvenience for sure. But the old behavior was seriously broken and I don't see any good way to provide it without cau

Re: [PD] more help file suggestions for pd 0.47

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
I _think_ (but am not sure) that "%" works differently on different CPU architectures. cheers Miller On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 06:27:33PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > 2016-05-07 14:53 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette : > > > I put in a sentence to scare users aw

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
nd count on them, but it > would be good for them to be optional. > best, > > J > > On May 5, 2016, at 11:57 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres > > wrote: > > > > 2016-05-05 23:55 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette > <mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>>: > > almost read

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
Plus a hint to > [list-drip] or [drip] as long as the problem with deep copies is not fixed? > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 06. Mai 2016 um 18:01 Uhr > > Von: "Christof Ressi" > > An: "Miller Puckette" > > Cc: "pd-lista puredata" > >

Re: [PD] more help file suggestions for pd 0.47

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
I put in a sentence to scare users away from "%". Use "mod" instead :) M On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 12:37:18PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > howdy, I can see it in the sourceforge you updated the help files, cool. > > but in the otherbinops-help.pd I still don't see the [%] object > > ch

Re: [PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
ee modular synthesis properly realised in Pd. > But I wouldn’t want to > spend effort on developing modules that I cannot profit from, since I could > do that using some other platform. > > -Matti > > > On 07 May 2016, at 20:29, Miller Puckette wrote: > > > > You&

Re: [PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
You'd have to modify Pd if you want to be able to run patches and keep it a secret how the patch works. I don't think people often feel the need to do that but it wouldn't be hard to do. cheers Miller On Sat, May 07, 2016 at 08:14:05PM +0300, Matti Viljamaa wrote: > But how do you close and dist

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
I can't recreate this... (tried pd -path .../z, invoked an abstraction that was in the subdirectory ../z, asked for help and got it. You must be invoking this differently or maybe on a different OS?) cheers Miller On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 03:56:36PM +0100, Liam Goodacre wrote: > Here's another is

Re: [PD] Can you close source of Pd patches (for commercial development)?

2016-05-07 Thread Miller Puckette
In fact Max uses some Pd code inside it. I released Pd under BSD license partly to encourage that possibility. Pd is also used as part of game audio engines (I think the first game to use it was Spore, perhaps 10 years ago). So leverage away. Your tax money pays my salary (at least, if you live

Re: [PD] [ot] threat of pure data

2016-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
Pure poetry! cheers Miller On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 11:18:35AM -0700, Peter Nyboer wrote: > Sometimes I wish pd had a more search-engine friendly name (could be worse, > like “max” or something!), but then such gems like this turn up > > "And some music executives openly worry that discounting t

Re: [PD] [OT] choice of sound cards for 16 output channels

2016-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
On caveat: you probably can't sync these together, so you will occasionally get an audio error on output as Pd 'resyncs' them. There are various ways of working around this. Maybe the best way in your particular situation is to have two copies of Pd and use netsend/receive to sync them at message

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
That's correct behavior. The earlier behavior (in which owning patches saved declarations made inside abstractions) was in error. I believe old patches will still work, but yes, if you re-save an old patch using a new version of Pd you'll have to add the appropriate "declare" object to the owning

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-06 Thread Miller Puckette
Yep, the "DSP" button now resizes accorging to the Pd window's font size (before it was a fixed size). That's so that people with very high resolution screens can see it. cheers Miller On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 01:53:43AM -0700, Derek Kwan wrote: > > Sorry for the noise - > > > > I broke the varia

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-05 Thread Miller Puckette
but not always) > > I had complained about this first and then it seemed it had been fixed, but > not quite yet i guess > > cheers > > 2016-05-04 18:11 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette : > > > Yep - confirmed and I believe fixed. Thanks > > > > M > > >

Re: [PD] Bug? (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: bad window path name

2016-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette
Thanks - I believe I have this fixed (to appear in 0.47). cheers Miller On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 02:14:05AM +, Benoît Fortier wrote: > Dear list, I'm using pd vanilla 46-7 on OSX 10.9.5. > Sometimes, when I save an abstraction within a GOP abstraction within a main > patch (see attached patch)

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe it should be just the one. But I'm a scope conservative (despite the contradictory evidence that Pd has, in fact, no scoping mechanism :) On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:49:41PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 05/04/2016 11:36 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > > I probab

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette
On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:17:32PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 05/04/2016 06:46 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > > I agree this is a problem. On my machine, selecting (for instance) > > freeverb~ from the deken plug-in creates a directory > > ~/pd/extra/freeverb~ >

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette
ake a new canvas > 3) right click into emtpy canvas -> help (opening help-intro.pd) > 4) close help-intro.pd > 5) create empty [clone] object > 6) right click on [clone] -> help > ... Pd hangs and WerFault.exe pops up > > Christof > > > > > > Gesendet:

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette
OK... committing a new version of deken... can deken experts please check to make sure I haven't broken something (or let me know if there's any reason this should be done differently :) thanks Miller On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 09:52:49AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > Oops, I was l

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette
Oops, I was looking at the wrong of pd_deken ... I still would like to fix it to always confirm - will now try to code that. cheers M On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 09:46:04AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > I agree this is a problem. On my machine, selecting (for instance) > freeverb~ from the

Re: [PD] Preferred/best practice for loading external objects

2016-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette
I agree this is a problem. On my machine, selecting (for instance) freeverb~ from the deken plug-in creates a directory ~/pd/extra/freeverb~ which would be a good place to put it except for the fact that that is my git repo (I then have to move it or else I'd end up publishing freeverb~ in vanil

Re: [PD] "WARNING: duplicate '...' library found

2016-05-04 Thread Miller Puckette
I can't get this to happen on my machine... I did this: unpack pd souds to /tmp/zz/ cd /tmp/zz/ ./autogen.sh ./configure --prefix=/tmp/z2/ make make install (this should give me a clean auto-made Pd that doesn't depend on anything now in the system). Then I add something to my path in "prefere

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-03 Thread Miller Puckette
. > > attached is my test patch for clarification. > > cheers > m > > > > On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: > > > Sorry for the noise - > > > > I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4 > &

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-03 Thread Miller Puckette
i guess you can update the help file of delread~ too, so you > refer to the new [delread4~] object name instead of the now "old" [vd~] in > the "see also". > > cheers > > 2016-05-02 2:04 GMT-03:00 Miller Puckette : > > > Sorry for the noise - > >

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-02 Thread Miller Puckette
I love the metaphor. Duplos and legos work together precisely because of the integer ratio. I think I do have to make some adjustments to zooming: offer 150% zoom fix it so that editing a zoomed patch can't get "between pixels" on the un-zoomed version (so that save/restore works exactly; patche

[PD] [PD-announce] Oops, test3 bad, test4 up now

2016-05-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry for the noise - I broke the variable delay reader in 0.47-0test3 - I've uploaded test4 to replace it... http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm etc. as usual. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.inf

[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.47-0 test3 released

2016-05-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all - Pd 0.47-0 test 3 is up on the usual: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or via: git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data This seems to fix all the major problems in test2. Thanks for all the feedback so far - it has helped immensely. cheers Miller

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-05-01 Thread Miller Puckette
my problem could be more of a Tk 8.5 issue on > >> Mac. There are a number of things to fix that break a little between 8.4 & > >> 8.5 on mac as far as my testing goes. > >> > >> > >> Dan Wilcox > >> @danomatika <https://twitter.com/danomatika>

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-05-01 Thread Miller Puckette
Sorry - I hadn't pushed my local git repo yet, now I have. I edited the help file too (with a bit more detail :) Miller On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:42:45AM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sat, 2016-04-30 at 12:08 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > > OK.. I added a 0.46 compatibili

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
s and Pd long-time users but it's > not really obvious for beginners! > > Just some ideas that came to my mind. > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. April 2016 um 21:33 Uhr > > Von: "Christof Ressi" > > An: "Miller Puckette" > > Cc: "pd-

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
> > > On Apr 30, 2016, at 1:06 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > > > From: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>> > > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released > > Date: April 30, 2016 at 12:25:58 PM MDT > > To: Liam Goodacre mailto:liamg...@ho

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
OK.. I added a 0.46 compatibility mode to get the old, strange behavior :) On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 05:42:55PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Fri, 2016-04-29 at 15:49 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > > It looks like the new color handling has made teh "color" message work >

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 30. April 2016 um 19:49 Uhr > > Von: "Miller Puckette" > > An: "Christof Ressi" > > Cc: "Alexandre Torres Porres" , "pd-list@lists.iem.at" > > > > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 rele

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
27;s > > > > > > site, > > > > > > did ./autogen.sh, ./configure, make, make install. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, the zoom function doesn't seem to work at all on my > > > > > > system. It'

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
g, 28. April 2016 um 06:07 Uhr > Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" > An: "Miller Puckette" > Cc: "pd-list@lists.iem.at" > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released > > a few other things I think we could easily sneak into the next releas

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.47-0test2 released

2016-04-30 Thread Miller Puckette
Quick responses... The paf~ extern hasn't been tested on 64bit MAC or on ARM - it probably will need work. I'll hold off on that until earlier in a testing cycle sometime. vsnapshot~ unintentionally got released and should not be used - it isn't designed right. (I started on it and then forgot

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