Re: [PD] deken and windows

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Wait a second. You have Pd-extended & Pd 0.47.1 both installed on the “C:\Program Files (x86)\” ? Describe your folders on “Program Files (x86)”. (1) Or tell us if you installed any of them somewhere else. Anyway you can give “write access” to your running “extra” folder & have the benefits o

Re: [PD] deken and windows

2017-02-16 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2017-02-17 2:55 GMT-02:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > it's funny, cause I usually install (and prefer to) in the extra folder of > the Pd app (Pd/Contents/Resources/extra). > It's also funny that deken always offers to install in ~/Library/Pd but you can never set it to somewhere else, like in th

Re: [PD] deken and windows

2017-02-16 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> next time deken should offer you that dir. but it doesn't! So i got a bug here I guess... it is asking me to install in this folder, which seems to be the global folder as specified in your link, but that doesn't work anymore... so, still about the link, it seems outdated. And about the Mac pa

Re: [PD] deken and windows

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files I usally prefer : %AppData%\Pd Paste %appdata% to your file explorer menu. %appdata% is shortcut to a more complete path, in my case: C:\Users\Lucarda\AppData\Roaming\ So do find it like: C:\ Users *you* appdata roaming

[PD] deken and windows

2017-02-16 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hi, new at windows, trying to download externals from deken in windows, but if I tell it to download to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Pd\extra\" it says it is not a writeable folder... where does deken usually install externals in windows? cheers ___ Pd-lis

Re: [PD] Visualising HTML page in Purr-data

2017-02-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Nice, that works for . > Any idea why I see nothing in objects? Unfortunately I don't-- I've been working mostly in SVG land, and only the simple parts of HTML for input, divs and some CSS styling. I have seen some discussions of webview in the nw.js mailing list, so you might check there

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
FWIW in pd-l2ork/purr-data loadbang fires even in dynamically created patches. You can also click on it to invoke a manual bang. HTH On 2/16/2017 12:52 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: [loadbang] doesn't fire in dynamically created patches. The easiest workaround: use [iemguts/initbang]. Christof

Re: [PD] Visualising HTML page in Purr-data

2017-02-16 Thread Giulio Moro via Pd-list
Nice, that works for . Any idea why I see nothing in objects? Thanks, Giulio From: Jonathan Wilkes To: Giulio Moro ; "pd-list@lists.iem.at" Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2017, 22:49 Subject: Re: Visualising HTML page in Purr-data > Hi, > great that purr-data

Re: [PD] Visualising HTML page in Purr-data

2017-02-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Hi, > great that purr-data is finally out. > I went back to this thread https://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@lists.iem.at/msg10518.html which briefly touched on the topic of visualizing HTML pages inside purr data, but did not find the solution to my problem. > Using seems to load local f

[PD] Visualising HTML page in Purr-data

2017-02-16 Thread Giulio Moro via Pd-list
Hi, great that purr-data is finally out. I went back to this thread https://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@lists.iem.at/msg10518.html which briefly touched on the topic of visualizing HTML pages inside purr data, but did not find the solution to my problem. Using seems to load local files just

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 15:31 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 15:18, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > > if you want to change the size of the Pd-menu, you have to look > > somewhere else... > it seems like that slightly too high menu on X11 is just the way > tcl/tk > creates menus

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread David
Thanks, works perfectly! David. On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: > [loadbang] doesn't fire in dynamically created patches. > The easiest workaround: use [iemguts/initbang]. > > Christof > > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2017 um 17:18 Uhr > Von: David > An: Pd-Lis

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread Christof Ressi
basically that works too. however, it gets a bit messy once you have nested loadbangs because these will get called more than once (I don't know why). as long as you doesn't relay on loadbangs firing exactly once, this shouldn't be a big problem, though. > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2017

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread Christof Ressi
[loadbang] doesn't fire in dynamically created patches. The easiest workaround: use [iemguts/initbang]. Christof     Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2017 um 17:18 Uhr Von: David An: Pd-List Betreff: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches Hi!   I have a question about the expec

Re: [PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread Jack
Hello David, Set you message box like : ; pd-WORKSPACE clear; pd-WORKSPACE obj 20 20 loadbang-test; pd-WORKSPACE loadbang ++ Jack Le 16/02/2017 à 17:18, David a écrit : > Hi! > > I have a question about the expected behaviour of loadbang when it's > used in a sub-patch that's built dynamic

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 16:14 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 15:18, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > Whenever you click the message box, you see the canvas of [pd foo] > > moving a bit, depending on how "wrong" your values are. 0 0 is > > certainly wrong for everyone. > since this cam

[PD] Question about loadbang and dynamic sub-patches

2017-02-16 Thread David
Hi! I have a question about the expected behaviour of loadbang when it's used in a sub-patch that's built dynamically. It appears that it isn't getting triggered. I've attached a simplified example. Should it get triggered? Does anyone know of a workaround for this? In other words, something that

Re: [PD] Error opening properties dialogue of 'flatgui/knob'

2017-02-16 Thread David
Thanks to both of you. I'll give moonlib/mknob a try. But does anyone know if flatgui is still being maintained by anyone? The dll files on my system are dated 2/4/2013. Maybe there's a later version, but this is what got installed by deken. David. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Christof Ressi

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 15:18, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Whenever you click the message box, you see the canvas of [pd foo] > moving a bit, depending on how "wrong" your values are. 0 0 is > certainly wrong for everyone. since this came up on my radar and i was pointed at http://wiki.tcl.tk/11502, i took the l

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
> it seems like you are changing some random variables to achieve an > unrelated goal. Yes, Roman already knew that. I got those ceros from the non X11 settings. Very naive on my side. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. ___ Pd-list@lists.i

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 15:18, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > if you want to change the size of the Pd-menu, you have to look > somewhere else... it seems like that slightly too high menu on X11 is just the way tcl/tk creates menus on that platform: just run this script (using wish): set m [menu .menubar]

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Thanks for the clarification, especially for menubarsize. It all makes a bit more sense to me now. Roman On Don, 2017-02-16 at 15:18 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 14:39, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > Here`s the backup: > > > > line 306 > > > > # some platforms have a men

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 13:39 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Here`s the backup: > > line 306 > > # some platforms have a menubar on the top, so place below them >             set ::menubarsize 0 >             # Tk handles the window placement differently on each >             # platform. With X11

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 14:39, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Here`s the backup: > > line 306 > > # some platforms have a menubar on the top, so place below them > set ::menubarsize 0 > # Tk handles the window placement differently on each > # platform. With X11, the x,y plac

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Here`s the backup: line 306 # some platforms have a menubar on the top, so place below them set ::menubarsize 0 # Tk handles the window placement differently on each # platform. With X11, the x,y placement refers to the window # frame's upper left c

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:57 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Or try 0 "cero" I tried negative values and zero, too: No effect. I commented out the line (pd-gui.tcl:307): set ::menubarsize 19 and there is no error nor any change in the GUI. It seems this line is obsolete. (?) Roman signature.

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Or try 0 "cero" Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. From: Pd-list on behalf of Lucas Cordiviola Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:53 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms) >Is it overridden some

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
>Is it overridden somewhere? I'm lost... could be. Recently there were mentions for negative values on pixel settings: I`m totally blind on linux. Try -10 seems negative values inhibits resizing. just to try. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. From

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 13:42 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:26 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > Line 351 > > > >             set ::menubarsize 22 > > > > ? > Thanks, that looks promising, but it doesn't do anything on Linux > when > editing the value for x11 window s

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 12:26 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > Line 351 > >             set ::menubarsize 22 > > ? Thanks, that looks promising, but it doesn't do anything on Linux when editing the value for x11 window system (it is already configured to 19, but resulting height is 30px). Is it o

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Line 351 set ::menubarsize 22 ? Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. From: Pd-list on behalf of Roman Haefeli Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:05 PM To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platfor

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 11:56 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 11:41, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > Hey all > > > > While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different > > platforms, > > I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar > > height > > is 30px,

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 11:50 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2017-02-16 11:09, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > > > > > > > > Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu > > > without the > > user having to install it first? > > > > Yes, > > > > https://lists.puredata.info/piperm

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
I agree with you that the installer can handle the issue more correctly. But In my case (probably other users too) I never use the installer, I use the zip which just run. No registry keys no nothing. Also to switch from PCs, versions, various tests & and more. But I can perfectly live if the

Re: [PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 11:41, Roman Haefeli wrote: > Hey all > > While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different platforms, > I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar height > is 30px, on Windows 19px. Personally, I find the 30px ugly and too > large. > > Can this be m

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2017-02-16 11:09, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: >> Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu without the > > user having to install it first? > > Yes, > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-02/117845.html > > Do you know other method? Using C code? i already ment

[PD] Menu bar height (differences across platforms)

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey all While we're at it, during testing font metrics on different platforms, I noticed that menus are quite different. On Linux, the menu bar height is 30px, on Windows 19px. Personally, I find the 30px ugly and too large.  Can this be made consistent across platforms, too? Roman signature.as

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Don, 2017-02-16 at 10:09 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > >Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu without > the > user having to install it first?  > > Yes, > > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-02/117845.html Yes, I actually saw it, but there was some co

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
>Is there the slightest chance of Pd on Windows using DejaVu without the user having to install it first? Yes, https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-02/117845.html Do you know other method? Using C code? Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. ___

Re: [PD] Pd Metrics on Xubuntu 16 04 02 LTS

2017-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2017-02-15 at 21:56 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mit, 2017-02-15 at 10:16 -0700, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > > > > > I went ahead and created a wiki page: https://github.com/pure-data/ > > pu > > re-data/wiki/Crossplatform-font-metrics-&-comparisons > > > > You can post pictures there and