Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Dan Wilcox]

There is no earplug~ 0.3.0 package on deken  for macOS yet.

You can blame me as I have so far been too lazy to carve out time to learn to 
package and distribute for deken. So far I just ask if other people can do 
it... :)

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> On 6/7/21 20:03, Jo?o Pais wrote:
>> if the only difference is the darwin file, would it be possible to send 
>> it here? (someone I know wanted to try it, but he can't learn how to 
>> install/try out externals)
> 
> wow. i thought it is much easier for people to install things via deken 
> than to manually download and extract (here comes the tricky part:) to 
> the proper directory.
> obviously this is not always the case.
> 
> btw, the latest and greatest deken-plugin (available via deken) allows 
> you to download deken-packages or get the URL to download it via some 
> other tools, which should make it simple to manually distribute the 
> zip-file if deken doesn't work for you for whatever reasons. (obviously 
> this only works if there *is* a deken-package)
> 
> gmdsr
> IOhannes


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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 6/7/21 20:03, João Pais wrote:
if the only difference is the darwin file, would it be possible to send 
it here? (someone I know wanted to try it, but he can't learn how to 
install/try out externals)


wow. i thought it is much easier for people to install things via deken 
than to manually download and extract (here comes the tricky part:) to 
the proper directory.

obviously this is not always the case.

btw, the latest and greatest deken-plugin (available via deken) allows 
you to download deken-packages or get the URL to download it via some 
other tools, which should make it simple to manually distribute the 
zip-file if deken doesn't work for you for whatever reasons. (obviously 
this only works if there *is* a deken-package)


gmdsr
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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Dan Wilcox]

earplug-0.3.0-macos-universal-64-arm-intel.zip 


> On Jun 7, 2021, at 8:03 PM, João Pais  wrote:
> 
> 
>>> I see that the version in deken is for all OSs except Mac, is that correct? 
>>> Is a mac (64+32b) binary available, or it's already there, only deken 
>>> doesn't know about it?
>> 
>> Lucas made a build for Linux and Windows. There isn't a build for macOS yet 
>> and we just need someone to upload one.
> 
> if the only difference is the darwin file, would it be possible to send it 
> here? (someone I know wanted to try it, but he can't learn how to install/try 
> out externals)
> 


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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[João Pais]

I see that the version in deken is for all OSs except Mac, is that 
correct? Is a mac (64+32b) binary available, or it's already there, 
only deken doesn't know about it?


Lucas made a build for Linux and Windows. There isn't a build for 
macOS yet and we just need someone to upload one.


if the only difference is the darwin file, would it be possible to send 
it here? (someone I know wanted to try it, but he can't learn how to 
install/try out externals)





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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Dan Wilcox]

> On Jun 7, 2021, at 9:33 AM, João Pais  wrote:
> 
> Great, thanks. A first tryout seems to work with no issues (and sounds better 
> than the previous version which was highly filtered).

Cool.

> I see that the version in deken is for all OSs except Mac, is that correct? 
> Is a mac (64+32b) binary available, or it's already there, only deken doesn't 
> know about it?

Lucas made a build for Linux and Windows. There isn't a build for macOS yet and 
we just need someone to upload one.

> Also to confirm: if for some reason the current earplug_data.txt file isn't 
> packed with earplug~, the default values within the object match the ones in 
> the txt file, correct?

Yes. The default behavior is to compile in the default dataset which can be 
overridden when an earplug_data.txt fiel is found and loaded. For those that 
compile the external themselves, there is an option to disable compiling in the 
data which makes the binary smaller but then requires the txt file.


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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[João Pais]

Great, thanks. A first tryout seems to work with no issues (and sounds 
better than the previous version which was highly filtered).


I see that the version in deken is for all OSs except Mac, is that 
correct? Is a mac (64+32b) binary available, or it's already there, only 
deken doesn't know about it?


Also to confirm: if for some reason the current earplug_data.txt file 
isn't packed with earplug~, the default values within the object match 
the ones in the txt file, correct?



Ok, earplug~ 0.3.0 is ready:

https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug

Lucas (or any Windows dev), if you have time, could you make Windows 
builds for deken? Then Joao can give it a try...


Done. Its up on Deken :

~~~
earplug~[v0.3.0](Linux-amd64-32)(Linux-i386-32)(Windows-amd64-32)(Windows-i386-32).dek 


    Uploaded by lucarda @ 2021-06-06 18:45:39
~~~

:)




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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Ok, earplug~ 0.3.0 is ready:

https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug

Lucas (or any Windows dev), if you have time, could you make Windows 
builds for deken? Then Joao can give it a try...



Done. Its up on Deken :

~~~
earplug~[v0.3.0](Linux-amd64-32)(Linux-i386-32)(Windows-amd64-32)(Windows-i386-32).dek
    Uploaded by lucarda @ 2021-06-06 18:45:39
~~~

:)


Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 6/6/2021 6:33 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote:

Ok, earplug~ 0.3.0 is ready:

https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug 
<https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug>


Lucas (or any Windows dev), if you have time, could you make Windows 
builds for deken? Then Joao can give it a try...


On Jun 2, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Dan Wilcox <mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Nothing too major.

We haven't made a changelog yet but the changes in the current main 
branch form the last 0.2.1 tag (2013) are:


* update to build via pd-lib-builder
* loading the dataset txt file is now optional (needs double-checking)
* fixed hang when dataset file is not loadable
* post header only once on load and include version
* avoid crashes by making sure that the "dsp" method cannot be called 
from the patch


Some future optimizations in the pipeline are: 
https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/pulls 
<https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/pulls>


I will try to add a changelog and new stable 0.2.2 tag tonight. You 
could then bug a Windows dev to make a build for deken...


When we review the other optimizations, they would go into a 0.3.0 
version.


On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:56 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at 
<mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote:


Message: 3
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 13:33:11 +0100
From: Jo?o Pais mailto:jmmmp...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
Subject: Re: [PD] Binaural w32?
Message-ID: <3ffaeb84-291c-7e2e-981e-a1ca531f6...@gmail.com 
<mailto:3ffaeb84-291c-7e2e-981e-a1ca531f6...@gmail.com>>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

that is nice - although I can't really build anything in windows on my
own. what are the improvements compared to the 2009 version?



I updated the earplug~ external to build using pd-lin-builder, so it
should be easy to build on Windows:

https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main 
<https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main>
<https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main 
<https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main>>


It's not the best but we use it for a project at work. It can use some
additional optimizations and the dataset is for 44.1k so you are in
luck. For our project, we are likely to introduce resampling for other
sample rates so it's more accurate beyond 44.1k...



Dan Wilcox
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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Christof Ressi]

On 06.06.2021 12:24, João Pais wrote:


1st order with 4 channels seems to already provide stereo 
spacialization

Sure, but higher ambisonics orders give more accuracy.


I'll try out. there are at least 6 sources to spatialize, which means 
6x enconding+decoding plugins adding to the patch. I'm assuming these 
aren't the heaviest processing, but there are already up to 1000 
tabplay~ playing sometimes.


Just to make sure: you only need *one* BinauralDecoder instance where 
you would send all your encoded signals.



ah, now I found out that the values are scaled between 0 and 1. This 
makes sense now.


Yes, VST parameters are always normalized between 0  and 1. Just watch 
out for the actual range/mapping. You can easily check it by setting the 
parameter with [param_set( and watching the result in the GUI.



Since I have you here (without abusing), do you know the most adequate 
formula to convert a xy or xyz (cartesian??) coordinate system to the 
stereoencoder coordinates (which I assume are polar?)?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system#Cartesian_coordinates

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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[João Pais]

1st order with 4 channels seems to already provide stereo spacialization

Sure, but higher ambisonics orders give more accuracy.


I'll try out. there are at least 6 sources to spatialize, which means 6x 
enconding+decoding plugins adding to the patch. I'm assuming these 
aren't the heaviest processing, but there are already up to 1000 
tabplay~ playing sometimes.



(I just want to turn a stereo signal into stereo binaural). 
I guess you also want to spatialize the signal in some way? There is 
no benefit in just "converting" a stereo track to binaural IMO, the 
stereo image just gets worse...


you're right, a spacialization will be added.


I couldn't also find any documentation on how to control the vst 
parameters in the website
Just like any other VST plugin. Have a look at the "pd parameter" 
section in vstplugin~-help.pd


ah, now I found out that the values are scaled between 0 and 1. This 
makes sense now.


Since I have you here (without abusing), do you know the most adequate 
formula to convert a xy or xyz (cartesian??) coordinate system to the 
stereoencoder coordinates (which I assume are polar?)?





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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Dan Wilcox]

Ok, earplug~ 0.3.0 is ready:

https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug 
<https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug>

Lucas (or any Windows dev), if you have time, could you make Windows builds for 
deken? Then Joao can give it a try...

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Nothing too major.
> 
> We haven't made a changelog yet but the changes in the current main branch 
> form the last 0.2.1 tag (2013) are: 
> 
> * update to build via pd-lib-builder
> * loading the dataset txt file is now optional (needs double-checking)
> * fixed hang when dataset file is not loadable
> * post header only once on load and include version
> * avoid crashes by making sure that the "dsp" method cannot be called from 
> the patch
> 
> Some future optimizations in the pipeline are: 
> https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/pulls 
> <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/pulls>
> 
> I will try to add a changelog and new stable 0.2.2 tag tonight. You could 
> then bug a Windows dev to make a build for deken...
> 
> When we review the other optimizations, they would go into a 0.3.0 version.
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:56 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at 
>> <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote:
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 13:33:11 +0100
>> From: Jo?o Pais mailto:jmmmp...@gmail.com>>
>> Cc: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
>> Subject: Re: [PD] Binaural w32?
>> Message-ID: <3ffaeb84-291c-7e2e-981e-a1ca531f6...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:3ffaeb84-291c-7e2e-981e-a1ca531f6...@gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>> 
>> that is nice - although I can't really build anything in windows on my 
>> own. what are the improvements compared to the 2009 version?
>> 
>> 
>>> I updated the earplug~ external to build using pd-lin-builder, so it 
>>> should be easy to build on Windows:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main 
>>> <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main> 
>>> <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main 
>>> <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main>>
>>> 
>>> It's not the best but we use it for a project at work. It can use some 
>>> additional optimizations and the dataset is for 44.1k so you are in 
>>> luck. For our project, we are likely to introduce resampling for other 
>>> sample rates so it's more accurate beyond 44.1k...


Dan Wilcox
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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Christof Ressi]

1st order with 4 channels seems to already provide stereo spacialization

Sure, but higher ambisonics orders give more accuracy.

(I just want to turn a stereo signal into stereo binaural). 
I guess you also want to spatialize the signal in some way? There is no 
benefit in just "converting" a stereo track to binaural IMO, the stereo 
image just gets worse...


I couldn't also find any documentation on how to control the vst 
parameters in the website
Just like any other VST plugin. Have a look at the "pd parameter" 
section in vstplugin~-help.pd


Christof

On 05.06.2021 23:18, João Pais wrote:




> now Pd (win32) always crashes when opening BinauralDecoder
and dsp on

This is a known bug with BinauralDecoder: it crashes in the process 
method if you provide less than 4 input channels (= 1st order). I 
*think* they have fixed this already. Maybe you are using an older 
version?


no, I just downloaded them for the first time. using 4 channels works.


Generally, I have the suspicion that you don't use the correct number 
of channels. Assuming you want to use 3rd order, the StereoEncoder 
needs 2 input and 16 output channels, i.e. [vstplugin~ 2 16]; 
conversely the BinauralDecoder needs 16 input and 2 output channels, 
i.e. [vstplugin~ 16 2].


ok, since I don't know anything about this topic, I didn't knew what 
was happening. 1st order with 4 channels seems to already provide 
stereo spacialization (I just want to turn a stereo signal into stereo 
binaural).


I couldn't also find any documentation on how to control the vst 
parameters in the website - although there is info on osc control, 
maybe I'll try that later.






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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[João Pais]

> now Pd (win32) always crashes when opening BinauralDecoder
and dsp on

This is a known bug with BinauralDecoder: it crashes in the process 
method if you provide less than 4 input channels (= 1st order). I 
*think* they have fixed this already. Maybe you are using an older 
version?


no, I just downloaded them for the first time. using 4 channels works.


Generally, I have the suspicion that you don't use the correct number 
of channels. Assuming you want to use 3rd order, the StereoEncoder 
needs 2 input and 16 output channels, i.e. [vstplugin~ 2 16]; 
conversely the BinauralDecoder needs 16 input and 2 output channels, 
i.e. [vstplugin~ 16 2].


ok, since I don't know anything about this topic, I didn't knew what was 
happening. 1st order with 4 channels seems to already provide stereo 
spacialization (I just want to turn a stereo signal into stereo binaural).


I couldn't also find any documentation on how to control the vst 
parameters in the website - although there is info on osc control, maybe 
I'll try that later.





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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Christof Ressi]

Hi,

> now Pd (win32) always crashes when opening BinauralDecoder
and dsp on

This is a known bug with BinauralDecoder: it crashes in the process method if 
you provide less than 4 input channels (= 1st order). I *think* they have fixed 
this already. Maybe you are using an older version?

Generally, I have the suspicion that you don't use the correct number of 
channels. Assuming you want to use 3rd order, the StereoEncoder needs 2 input 
and 16 output channels, i.e. [vstplugin~ 2 16]; conversely the BinauralDecoder 
needs 16 input and 2 output channels, i.e. [vstplugin~ 16 2].

Christof

Am 5. Juni 2021, 12:17, um 12:17, "João Pais"  schrieb:
>strangely, now Pd (win32) always crashes when opening BinauralDecoder
>and dsp on - independently if the other vstplugin is being used. That
>wasn't the case yesterday, I'm loading it exactly in the same way, with
>
>the same configuration.
>
>
>>> I'm having a look, but I'm apparently not getting something. When I
>try
>>>
>>> [vstplugin~] + "StereoEncoder", it only outputs a signal to the
>>> left-ish, changing the position doesn't affect the output )0th
>order).
>> this sounds very much as if you were listening to the W-channel.
>>
>>> Or do you put a [vstplugin~] + "BinauralDecoder" afterwards?
>> if you want to listen to the spatialisationvia headphones, then: yes.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[João Pais]

strangely, now Pd (win32) always crashes when opening BinauralDecoder 
and dsp on - independently if the other vstplugin is being used. That 
wasn't the case yesterday, I'm loading it exactly in the same way, with 
the same configuration.




I'm having a look, but I'm apparently not getting something. When I try

[vstplugin~] + "StereoEncoder", it only outputs a signal to the
left-ish, changing the position doesn't affect the output )0th order).

this sounds very much as if you were listening to the W-channel.


Or do you put a [vstplugin~] + "BinauralDecoder" afterwards?

if you want to listen to the spatialisationvia headphones, then: yes.





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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 5. Juni 2021 01:06:08 MESZ schrieb "João Pais" :
>I'm having a look, but I'm apparently not getting something. When I try
>
>[vstplugin~] + "StereoEncoder", it only outputs a signal to the 
>left-ish, changing the position doesn't affect the output )0th order). 

this sounds very much as if you were listening to the W-channel.

>Or do you put a [vstplugin~] + "BinauralDecoder" afterwards?

if you want to listen to the spatialisationvia headphones, then: yes.

.mfg.jdr.afgg.
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[João Pais]

I'm having a look, but I'm apparently not getting something. When I try 
[vstplugin~] + "StereoEncoder", it only outputs a signal to the 
left-ish, changing the position doesn't affect the output )0th order). 
Or do you put a [vstplugin~] + "BinauralDecoder" afterwards?



Personally, I always use [vstplugin~] + "StereoEncoder" / 
"BinauralDecoder" from the IEM plugin suite, but I'm of course biased :-)


On 01.06.2021 15:12, João Pais wrote:

Hi list,

what is the current state of the art in binaural externals? I see in 
the archives that there are several around, each with 
advantages/disadvantages.


I would need it to:

- windows 32b

- record the output of an already existing patch with x-y 
coordinates/trajectories into binaural audio


- sample rate fixed at 44.1KHz

- there are around 500 samples with an individual player, so each 
will need its own enconder. They don't play necessarily all together, 
though.


Best,

Joao 





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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Christof Ressi]

Personally, I always use [vstplugin~] + "StereoEncoder" / 
"BinauralDecoder" from the IEM plugin suite, but I'm of course biased :-)


On 01.06.2021 15:12, João Pais wrote:

Hi list,

what is the current state of the art in binaural externals? I see in 
the archives that there are several around, each with 
advantages/disadvantages.


I would need it to:

- windows 32b

- record the output of an already existing patch with x-y 
coordinates/trajectories into binaural audio


- sample rate fixed at 44.1KHz

- there are around 500 samples with an individual player, so each will 
need its own enconder. They don't play necessarily all together, though.


Best,

Joao




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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Dan Wilcox]

Nothing too major.

We haven't made a changelog yet but the changes in the current main branch form 
the last 0.2.1 tag (2013) are: 

* update to build via pd-lib-builder
* loading the dataset txt file is now optional (needs double-checking)
* fixed hang when dataset file is not loadable
* post header only once on load and include version
* avoid crashes by making sure that the "dsp" method cannot be called from the 
patch

Some future optimizations in the pipeline are: 
https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/pulls 
<https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/pulls>

I will try to add a changelog and new stable 0.2.2 tag tonight. You could then 
bug a Windows dev to make a build for deken...

When we review the other optimizations, they would go into a 0.3.0 version.

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:56 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 13:33:11 +0100
> From: Jo?o Pais mailto:jmmmp...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Binaural w32?
> Message-ID: <3ffaeb84-291c-7e2e-981e-a1ca531f6...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:3ffaeb84-291c-7e2e-981e-a1ca531f6...@gmail.com>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> that is nice - although I can't really build anything in windows on my 
> own. what are the improvements compared to the 2009 version?
> 
> 
>> I updated the earplug~ external to build using pd-lin-builder, so it 
>> should be easy to build on Windows:
>> 
>> https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main 
>> <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main> 
>> <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main 
>> <https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main>>
>> 
>> It's not the best but we use it for a project at work. It can use some 
>> additional optimizations and the dataset is for 44.1k so you are in 
>> luck. For our project, we are likely to introduce resampling for other 
>> sample rates so it's more accurate beyond 44.1k...


Dan Wilcox
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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[João Pais]

that is nice - although I can't really build anything in windows on my 
own. what are the improvements compared to the 2009 version?



I updated the earplug~ external to build using pd-lin-builder, so it 
should be easy to build on Windows:


https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main 



It's not the best but we use it for a project at work. It can use some 
additional optimizations and the dataset is for 44.1k so you are in 
luck. For our project, we are likely to introduce resampling for other 
sample rates so it's more accurate beyond 44.1k...





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Re: [PD] Binaural w32?

[Dan Wilcox]

I updated the earplug~ external to build using pd-lin-builder, so it should be 
easy to build on Windows:

https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main 
<https://github.com/pd-externals/earplug/tree/main>

It's not the best but we use it for a project at work. It can use some 
additional optimizations and the dataset is for 44.1k so you are in luck. For 
our project, we are likely to introduce resampling for other sample rates so 
it's more accurate beyond 44.1k...

> On Jun 2, 2021, at 12:06 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 14:12:23 +0100
> From: Jo?o Pais mailto:jmmmp...@gmail.com>>
> To: PD-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
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> Hi list,
> 
> what is the current state of the art in binaural externals? I see in the 
> archives that there are several around, each with advantages/disadvantages.
> 
> I would need it to:
> 
> - windows 32b
> 
> - record the output of an already existing patch with x-y 
> coordinates/trajectories into binaural audio
> 
> - sample rate fixed at 44.1KHz
> 
> - there are around 500 samples with an individual player, so each will 
> need its own enconder. They don't play necessarily all together, though.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Joao


Dan Wilcox
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[PD] Binaural w32?

[João Pais]

Hi list,

what is the current state of the art in binaural externals? I see in the 
archives that there are several around, each with advantages/disadvantages.


I would need it to:

- windows 32b

- record the output of an already existing patch with x-y 
coordinates/trajectories into binaural audio


- sample rate fixed at 44.1KHz

- there are around 500 samples with an individual player, so each will 
need its own enconder. They don't play necessarily all together, though.


Best,

Joao




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