Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com To: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [PD] expr alternative On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 08:51:23AM +0800, Simon Wise wrote: On 26/10/11 01:29,

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-26 Thread Andy Farnell
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: little documentation or support whatsoever-- not to mention hardware like Apple's which gets periodic firmware updates specifically to break compatibility with anything other than Itunes.  This is what I

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-26 Thread Max
Am 26.10.2011 um 05:28 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:51 PM, Simon Wise wrote: On 26/10/11 01:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Apple App Store is incompatible with the GPL and LGPL, from what I understand. Getting Apple to make their App Store compatible with the

Re: [PD] Max 6 - Audio Quality...Pd?

2011-10-26 Thread João Pais
And even more so, I have no clue what 0.44 - support for using 64-bit double numbers as the base number, see pd-doublehttp://puredata.info/dev/pd-double means. just follow the first link inside to Katja's site, and you'll have a complete explanation (with pictures). worth the reading.

Re: [PD] OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck

2011-10-26 Thread João Pais
After the recent post about CsoundforLive, it resparked my interest in trying out one of the text based audio synthesis programs. Since it seems like a very steep learning curve to start learning any of these(Csounds, SuperCollider or Chuck) I just wanted to see if anyone here has had any

Re: [PD] Max 6 - Audio Quality...Pd?

2011-10-26 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 26/10/2011 10:43, João Pais wrote: And even more so, I have no clue what 0.44 - support for using 64-bit double numbers as the base number, see pd-doublehttp://puredata.info/dev/pd-double means. just follow the first link inside to Katja's site, and you'll have a complete explanation (with

[PD] [OT] Re: expr alternative

2011-10-26 Thread Simon Wise
On 26/10/11 12:26, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2011-10-26 à 10:32:00, Simon Wise a écrit : Their corporate strategy regarding creating and maintaining a monopoly on as many technologies as they can, and taking a percentage of every transaction within those monopoly platforms is very sensible

[PD] any easy way to get data from 3 arduino (firmata) to one comport (pduino)?

2011-10-26 Thread o...@onyx-ashanti.com
greetings. i was wondering, any insight on taking the data from 3 arduinos running firmata and dumping them, using xbee trancievers, to a single comport in in pure data? my project uses 3 xbee transmitter nodes which communicate directly with its own xbee basestationreciever at my computer.

[PD] gridflow fullscreen

2011-10-26 Thread stéfan piat
hello, I try to make a fullscreen window in gridflow (with #out ) but I didn't find informations about that in the documentation, in #out-help.pd or in the list do you know how ? (i'm running on windows, with pd-extended 0.42.5) thanks *stéfan* ___

[PD] [PD-announce] CFP: CoLab (ICPL) Khartoum. Interdisciplinary and Collaborative Projects Laboratory

2011-10-26 Thread Medialab-Prado comunicacion
CoLab (ICPL) Khartoum. Interdisciplinary and Collaborative Projects Laboratory Call for Projects CoLab is a project aimed at developing a new profile of creator/researcher though the creation of interdisciplinary work groups to carry out projects collaboratively. This call is aimed

Re: [PD] any easy way to get data from 3 arduino (firmata) to one comport (pduino)?

2011-10-26 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi Onyx, i would use the built-in I2C bus for connecting multiple arduinos. One of them can do the communication to the host computer. http://www.instructables.com/id/I2C-between-Arduinos/ gr~~~ Am 26.10.2011 um 13:47 schrieb o...@onyx-ashanti.com: greetings. i was wondering, any insight

[PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
All, Pd-L2ork is now available both as a tarball and via git: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56 https://github.com/pd-l2ork/ Testers/contributors are as always most appreciated. NB: Pd-l2ork is currently Linux-only although this may change down the road. Some of the recent changes

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 09:42 -0400, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: All, Pd-L2ork is now available both as a tarball and via git: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56 https://github.com/pd-l2ork/ Is this based on Pd 0.43 ? Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at

[PD] [OT] free market

2011-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-26 à 18:41:00, Simon Wise a écrit : By free market in that context I am talking about the grab-bag of ideas that are promoted under that label by a very noisy and influential section of the press and economics commentators (especially but not only in the English speaking parts of

Re: [PD] [OT] Re: expr alternative

2011-10-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:41 AM Subject: [PD] [OT] Re: expr alternative On 26/10/11 12:26, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2011-10-26 à

[PD] [OT] free market

2011-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-26 à 07:58:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : From the context, I thought it was clear that this is what you meant when you used the term (people also call this free market fundamentalism). Well, I basically could guess, but I consider that use of the term to be abusive. But there are

Re: [PD] gridflow fullscreen

2011-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-26 à 15:01:00, stéfan piat a écrit : I try to make a fullscreen window in gridflow (with #out ) but I didn't find informations about that in the documentation, in #out-help.pd or in the list do you know how ? (i'm running on windows, with pd-extended 0.42.5) [#out window] is an

Re: [PD] any easy way to get data from 3 arduino (firmata) to one comport (pduino)?

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The Firmata protocol is built around a one device connection (it was written for Arduino-USB), so having multiple devices sending their data over a single serial port won't work with the Firmata protocol. I seem to recall that Xbees can send on different channels. If so, I think the

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 09:42 -0400, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: All, Pd-L2ork is now available both as a tarball and via git: http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56 https://github.com/pd-l2ork/ Is this based on Pd 0.43 ? Seems to be a

[PD] HD video in GEM on Linux?

2011-10-26 Thread Iain Mott
Hi list, What is current status of HD video in GEM on Linux? From what I've read in relation to the BlackMagic Intensity cards, it seems there's no working solution. Is this correct? I've been developing patches in Pd/GEM to mix a webcam video input with SD mpeg files on disk and synchronise

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 08:51:23AM +0800, Simon Wise wrote: On 26/10/11 01:29, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Apple App Store is incompatible with the GPL and LGPL, from what I understand. Getting Apple to make their App Store

Re: [PD] HD video in GEM on Linux?

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Gem has handled HD resolution video on Mac OS X since 2004 at least. I remember seeing two HD videos textured to a cube back then. About outputting via the Blackmagic card, that's a separate question that I don't know about. .hc On Oct 26, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Iain Mott wrote: Hi

Re: [PD] any easy way to get data from 3 arduino (firmata) to one comport (pduino)?

2011-10-26 Thread o...@onyx-ashanti.com
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: The Firmata protocol is built around a one device connection (it was written for Arduino-USB), so having multiple devices sending their data over a single serial port won't work with the Firmata protocol. what about

Re: [PD] HD video in GEM on Linux?

2011-10-26 Thread vade
BlackMagic has an SDK for their Decklink line of cards that works under Linux. From GEM, you would need to capture the screen, or the pix_texture in question and create an appropriately sized buffer and send that to the card. They have plenty of example applications that do ingest, output,

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Is this based on Pd 0.43 ? Seems to be a mix, its got the 0.43 Tcl, but the 0.42 header: https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/blob/master/src/m_pd.h .hc Indeed, it is a mix. Some of our implementations (e.g. magicglass) got ported by Hans and some of upstream was backported. I feel like

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Is this based on Pd 0.43 ? Seems to be a mix, its got the 0.43 Tcl, but the 0.42 header: https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/blob/master/src/m_pd.h .hc Indeed, it is a mix. Some of our implementations (e.g. magicglass) got ported by Hans

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
I'd love to be able to include bugfixes from pd-l2ork. I looked thru the code and I can't really find what changes belong to what Changelog items. Can you point me towards the code related to these Changelog items, and expand on what they do, if you can? Then I can work on including them

Re: [PD] OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck

2011-10-26 Thread yvan volochine
1. How do they compare against each other? I only know a bit csound and am an everyday sc user. - I find csound oldschool syntax pretty boring but maybe that's just me. - sc is a killer for realtime dsp. - sc-list is *extremely* active and helpful. ... 3. What sort of things can be achieved

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-26 Thread Ricardo Fabbri
My 2c: 1) if you want someone to change their licensing, at least be willing to offer them some cash. basically, you buy the new licensing. this part is not free! I would go as far as saying it's unpolite to ask to switch a license without offering money. 2) If you write a clone, be original

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: I'd love to be able to include bugfixes from pd-l2ork. I looked thru the code and I can't really find what changes belong to what Changelog items. Can you point me towards the code related to these Changelog items, and expand on what they

Re: [PD] OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:45 PM, yvan volochine wrote: 1. How do they compare against each other? I only know a bit csound and am an everyday sc user. - I find csound oldschool syntax pretty boring but maybe that's just me. - sc is a killer for realtime dsp. - sc-list is *extremely* active

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-10-26 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-10-26 à 17:04:00, Ricardo Fabbri a écrit : 3) Colloquy IRC chat client is an example of a GPL software that has a BSD core and mobile version. Not sure if that's because the authors are the copyright holders so they can switch licensing as they please. It looks fairly clear that this

Re: [PD] OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck

2011-10-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com To: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Cc: pd-list Pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [PD] OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck 1. How do they compare against each other? I

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:

Re: [PD] [OT] free market

2011-10-26 Thread Andy Farnell
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: and that the best decisions for a society are made when responding to the so-called invisible hand of the market. The invisible hand ? Heretic of little faith! Is it not the hand of God? The last force

Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread sonia yuditskaya
Works! Any guesses to what's up? Can I redistribute that? and of course... is a client a feasible idea? That would be great for things like kinect depth images... I'll be starting a class shortly, you'll get tons of testers! ^_^ Sofy Yuditskaya ] yuditskaya.com [ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at

Re: [PD] OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck

2011-10-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 10/26/2011 09:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: 3. What sort of things can be achieved in these programs that can't be achieved in Pd, if any? polyphony in pd is a nightmare, you get it for free in sc: // 128 sine waves with random freq mixed down to stereo: {

Re: [PD] OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck

2011-10-26 Thread yvan volochine
On 10/26/2011 09:38 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: polyphony in pd is a nightmare, you get it for free in sc: // 128 sine waves with random freq mixed down to stereo: { Splay.ar(SinOsc.ar({ExpRand(100, 5e3)} ! 128)) }.play Not too long ago matju wrote about the possibility that one could make GF

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git On

Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Try fux_kinect for getting the depth camera with Gem on Mac OS X: source: https://github.com/badgeek/fux_kinect binary: http://autobuild.puredata.info/pdlab/fux_kinect.tar.bz2 .hc On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:07 PM, sonia yuditskaya wrote: Works! Any guesses to what's up? Can I redistribute that?

Re: [PD] OT: Poll: Csounds or SuperCollider or Chuck

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 26, 2011, at 5:19 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 10/26/2011 09:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: 3. What sort of things can be achieved in these programs that can't be achieved in Pd, if any? polyphony in pd is a nightmare, you get it for free in sc: // 128 sine waves with random

Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread sonia yuditskaya
from pd: /Library/Pd/fux_kinect.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Library/Pd/fux_kinect.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libftgl.2.dylib Referenced from: /Library/Pd/fux_kinect.pd_darwin Reason: image not found fux_kinect ... couldn't create is there a tutorial out there somewhere that explains

Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git

2011-10-26 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
-Original Message- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:h...@at.or.at] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:19 PM To: Ivica Ico Bukvic Cc: 'Roman Haefeli'; pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] New versions of pd-l2ork now available on git On Oct 26, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Ivica Ico

Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread Budi Prakosa
hi, i removed some un needed dependencies, and you could try latest binary here: https://github.com/badgeek/fux_kinect On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:27 AM, sonia yuditskaya marysgh...@gmail.com wrote: from pd: /Library/Pd/fux_kinect.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Library/Pd/fux_kinect.pd_darwin, 10): Library

Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Budi, I couldn't find a binary to download there, looks like its only the source. I was just messing with linking to the libraries to test out a new idea to make it much easier for users to install. Using the @loader_path trick, we can include the libraries in the fux_kinect

Re: [PD] [OT] free market

2011-10-26 Thread Simon Wise
On 26/10/11 22:55, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2011-10-26 à 18:41:00, Simon Wise a écrit : Anyway, I agree (for things not considered basic), but only after minimum wage law, employee protection laws, consumer protection laws, telecom laws, and the rest of the large corpus of relevant laws

Re: [PD] [OT] free market

2011-10-26 Thread Simon Wise
On 27/10/11 04:49, Andy Farnell wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Mathieu Bouchardma...@artengine.ca wrote: and that the best decisions for a society are made when responding to the so-called invisible hand of the market. The invisible hand ? Heretic of little faith! Is it

[PD] fux_kinect again WAS: pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, I updated my library embedding script and made a test build of fux_kinect. It seems to work for me. Here are the patches that I needed to do to get things working (you can apply them with 'git am'): 0001-make-it-build-on-a-plain-Mac-OS-X-Fink-system.patch Description: Binary data

Re: [PD] fux_kinect again WAS: pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread Budi Prakosa
hey Hans, this is great! already applied the patch on github now its very easy to install this external thanks! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Ok, I updated my library embedding script and made a test build of fux_kinect.  It seems to work for

Re: [PD] drag n' drop OSX tkdnd ect .... + Gem on 10.5 extended autobuilds

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Oct 25, 2011, at 6:37 PM, m.e.grimm wrote: from that. Can you run Pd-extended 0.43 and trigger that crash, and post the crash log to a pastebin.com? you mean with the autobuilds? I can not trigger that crash with those. those are fine... but maybe more importantly: Duh, sorry, the

Re: [PD] fux_kinect again WAS: pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Awesome, glad to hear it. That same script can be used in other libs, whenever you are linking to libraries in Fink. It should work without modifications. .hc On Oct 26, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Budi Prakosa wrote: hey Hans, this is great! already applied the patch on github now its very

Re: [PD] fux_kinect again WAS: pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-26 Thread Budi Prakosa
here is the working binary https://github.com/downloads/badgeek/fux_kinect/fux_kinect.zip source: https://github.com/badgeek/fux_kinect cheers On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Awesome, glad to hear it.  That same script can be used in other libs,