On 2/08/03 9:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS, ZSLR digital cameras may be lifestyle items, but interchangeable lens
DSLRs aren't and won't be. Lumping PS digitals and DSLRs together is foolish.
It's like thinking the film camera buying of professional photographers and
Ken wrote:
I tend to agree with this. While the current digital camera market has a
look of C/N runaway success, the whole market has been essentially
reshuffled and everybody will be competing in the level field. ,
But this not a correct interpretation. Canon being No.1 in film cameras
First, it seems that Canon (and perhaps Nikon) will launch a very
aggressively priced DSLR
You can bet on that.
Second, the early demise of D60 places a question mark over general
manufacturers support for DSLR. People will think twice before
buying a relatively expensive product that gets
I have the 4.5/15 mm Voigtländer and it is very good indeed. It vignettes noticeably
but not annoyingly. A Voigtländer Bessa-L and the 15 mm is not that expensive, either.
And no weird colours - just good saturation on mine.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at
Exactly. And the opposite is also true.
Lenses go always unnoticed, cameras get noticed sometimes but the phrases Wendy uses
do work. I also buy cameras for Christmas presents - for myself, of course.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho
Thank you for all who answered my question.
I think the transfer, reformat and partition, and re-transfer is my best
option. I'm running XP home. How do I make sure I have everything off C
drive before reformatting? As this is very OT and may be long, please feel
free to contact me off list.
Mike Johnston wrote:
First, it seems that Canon (and perhaps Nikon) will launch a very
aggressively priced DSLR
You can bet on that.
Second, the early demise of D60 places a question mark over general
manufacturers support for DSLR. People will think twice before
buying a
Got a note from an ex-member this AM concerning the value
of the SMCP 120mm f2.8 (K-version, not M). He's working a
trade for a 4x5 system and asks an estimation of trade
value of the 120mm. From what I have picked up through
list-osmosis, this is one of
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS, ZSLR digital cameras may be lifestyle items, but
interchangeable lens DSLRs aren't and won't be. Lumping PS digitals
and DSLRs together is foolish. It's like thinking the film camera
buying of professional photographers and scoccer moms are the
Congratulations!
Sorry I am somewhat late...
---
Boris Liberman
www.geocities.com/dunno57
www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625
Tell him I'll give $150 for it.
JCO
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From: Bill D. Casselberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Value opinion 120mm f2.8 ?
Got a note from an ex-member this AM concerning the value
Hi!
There are some strange cameras such as MZ-60 popping up in ranges of
other manufacturers. Recently I've read about some new model of Nikon
which is essentially a very low level, nearly fully automatic film
SLR. Though I have close to none interest in Canon and Nikon offerings
I allow myself
At 11:56 PM -0600 2/7/03, Dan Scott wrote:
Last Tuesday I had a big attack of the stoopids. I'd been trying
to report and resolve a problem with Ebay and received an email from
them with a link to what appeared to be an authentic Ebay page.
It wasn't.
I've just finished reporting the incident
Has anyone used Microsoft's Photo Editor? If so, I
have a few questions.
1. Is there a way to convert a color image to BW?
2. Is there a way to Mark up the picture? For
instance, I want to write the date on the picture
itself, or maybe a caption, that will actually print
out on the photo?
From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XP question
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:23:39 +
Hi,
That's what I thought when I had this setup. The perfect backup system
Until an unknown force (ottawa hydro) blew
Keith wrote:
I'm continually amazed at people's use ~ and perception ~ of the word obsolete.
It seems they think of anything called 'obsolete' as just next to worthless.
Last week, before the introduction of the new super-thing, what they
had or hankered for was top of the line, and WELL
What, other then the guide number increase, would be a good reason to
purchase the AF500-FTZ over the AF360-FTZ? It would be used on the PZ-1p
and PZ-20
Right now I'm using the AF330-FTZ but would like a bit more flash
including bounce capability.
Thoughts?
--
Later,
Gary
For the PZ-20 and ip the 500 gives you the range, the
360 doesn't have much of a range increase overthe 330.
Other than that, the 360 rocks.
--- Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What, other then the guide number increase, would be
a good reason to
purchase the AF500-FTZ over the
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From: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Flash
What, other then the guide number increase, would be a good reason to
purchase the AF500-FTZ over the AF360-FTZ? It would be used on the PZ-1p
and PZ-20
You probably mean AF360FGZ (not FTZ).
The reasons are as
I paid $120, including shipment from Europe, for mine about 6 months on
eBay.
stan
on 2/08/03 11:15 AM, Bill D. Casselberry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got a note from an ex-member this AM concerning the value
of the SMCP 120mm f2.8 (K-version, not M). He's working a
trade for a 4x5 system
Sorry - ignore the previous. I have the M version.
stan
on 2/08/03 2:24 PM, Stan Halpin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I paid $120, including shipment from Europe, for mine about 6 months on
eBay.
stan
on 2/08/03 11:15 AM, Bill D. Casselberry at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got a note
Pål wrote:
PJ What gave you that idea? Why shouldn't Pentax be able to match
PJ their prices? The have always been able to match anybodies prices.
Well, camera price is still driven by the sensor price. Last time I
checked Canon was manufacturing their own sensor, that is they have
a
Tell him to sell it to JCO!
There are a number of folks who like the Older K lenses.
(I think of Daphne the Israeli who was collecting them.)
They are generally 25%-35% bigger than the M versions of the same lens.
Some think that Pentax compromised quality when they made them smaller.
Others
More precisely put...
I have seen a premium on the K20/4, K35/2, and some on the K50/1.4.
I haven't seen any on the K135/3.5, K200/4, but a bit on the K105/2.8.
(Of course, the K85/1.8 is prohibitively expensive.)
The K120 and K150 don't come up often and I suspect there isn't a premium on
them
Not snipped because it needs reading again:
I'm continually amazed at people's use ~ and perception ~ of the word
obsolete.
It seems they think of anything called 'obsolete' as just next to worthless.
Last week, before the introduction of the new super-thing, what they
had or hankered for was
Gary,
Couple of things. I used to have 500 FTZ and now have multiple 360's.
The 500 can swivel as well as tilt, the 360 can only tilt. The 500
can take multiple battery sources (nicad, etc) the 360 is limited to
just AA's. The 500 has better range than the 360.
The 360 however, has P-TTL for
Plus, if you ever go to a 645 or 67 (any brand with a hotshoe), it has the
ability to adjust the output for those formats. Comes in handy on my 645
and Kiev 60.
Bill
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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gary L. Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February
On 2/08/03 3:46 PM, Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh well, I hope I won't be forced to resign within the consumer
condition and have to stare at the reconstructed piece of the reality
in the viewfinder. If I need mind blowing simulations with subject
identification based on the
What do you think is the most unknown Pentax lens?
My guess: SMC M 35-70/2.8-3.5.
Peter Smekal
Uppsala, Sweden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
While my favorites are the SMCT ( M42) lenses,
I also like both the K and M's too. Not so
much the A's ( too much plastic).
I feel some of the M's are unfairly disrespected.
For example, I just got the M-100 2.8 and
my first roll revealed amazing sharpness,
much better than I expected. The
On 2/08/03 3:46 PM, Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True, but digital does not necessarily level the field. There's a
limit for miniaturization. A DSLR will always have more resources
than a ps, and the difference in ergonomics is what makes apart a
tool from a toy. Modular SLR systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you think is the most unknown Pentax lens?
My guess: SMC M 35-70/2.8-3.5.
How about the K30/2.8 or K20/4 or the soft focus 85mm?
Regards, Bob S.
If I remember the focal length correctly, my vote
would be for the 25-50 zoom. I've only seen one in
the last year on ebay. Almost bought it, but had no
idea if it was a good one or not. Seems like it sold
fairly reasonably-maybe $50?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
25-50?? I thought it was a 28-50.
JCO
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From: Steve Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Most unknown Pentax lens
If I remember the focal length correctly, my vote
would be for the 25-50
Don't forget Kodak and Fuji. Kodak has been selling DSLRs for years. Fuji has been
doing quite well with the S1 and S2, in particular. DSLRs have been, and I personally
think will continue to be pro and serious amateur cameras, where what brand of lens
you can mount is very important.
BR
Pål
At 05:21 PM 08/02/2003 -0500, you wrote:
On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS, ZSLR digital cameras may be lifestyle items, but
interchangeable lens DSLRs aren't and won't be. Lumping PS digitals
and DSLRs together is foolish. It's like thinking the film camera
buying of
That, my friends is not obsolescence. It's attitude and directed mindset...
I love my 'obsolete' cameras!
I think you love affair the obsolete products would have been somewhat
different if, say, the lens you bought today could have been had with 40%
higher resolution at half the price in
I took a break from the list, but curiosity draws me back. What news from
the rumor mill?
Image Stabilization. I've spent some time with my brother's 500mm reflex
and 2x teleconverter and discover that 1000mm of telephoto can be very
difficult to hold steady. That image stablization thing
I'm thinking of getting a screw mount adapter to turn my K1000 into a
Spotmatic and try out some of the Takumar lenses. I've wanted to try
professional quality lenses. I can't afford them, but the Takumar optics
are legendary, and I see on eBay that the lenses are cheap.
I'm interested more in
They buy 5mp digicams. I haven't spoken to one yet that was interested in changing
lenses. It isn't even all that common for them to desire true photo quality prints,
i.e. have photo inkjets and use real photo paper, or have them printed to photo paper
by a service. It's mostly on line albums
There are probably more women that adjust the valves in their car engines than change
lenses on their cameras. From what I've seen you aren't the typical soccor mom.
BR
wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, got to agree with g. on this one, 'cos this soccer mom's got her eye
on a DSLR
There are some things important to consider before we
start opinionating the digital SLR market..
Their comment: Despite the rumors, we fear that
Pentax, Contax and
others distanced from Canon and Nikon and lack the
means to
position themselves on the digital SLR market.
Even if an
Must have been a break from more than the list. Nikon has had an IS (Nikon calles it
VR) lens out for about 2 years now.
BR
Gregory L. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand from other rumors that
their patent has pretty much run out and other companies like Nikon are
working on image
How about the 27mm SMC-W ? The W stood for windshield wiper. Very
hard to replace the blades on that one. The A version (1970's) had
an eight-track tape deck available with it (very rare).
Marcello
--
Hi Team,
I have some more pieces of Pentax gear up for auction (some second time around)
and the very last of the wooden LX grips. If anyone is interested please click
on the link in the footer.
I should be listing some more gear mid week.
Cheers,
Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio)
PO Box 701
Hey,
Dont use those stinking TCs. As for Teles,
These are great, but not cheap or easy to find:
85mm F1.8 smct ( $250-$350)
135mm F2.5 SMCT 6 element version (100-150)
These are excellent:
105mm F2.8 smct ($80-120)
120mm F2.8 smct ($100-150)
150mm F4 smct ($80-120)
All the smct lenses over
It goes for about $180 to $350. Low to mid $200s seems typical.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since I am not shooting 4x5 anymore...
Omega 45F camera w extra bellows
Nikor W 210mm f/5.6 w/caps on mounted lens board
17 4x5 film holders
545 Polaroid back
Omega loupe
Dark cloth
Home-made wooden case
I am looking for serious offers or trades on the entire package.
Please e-mail off list.
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 15:48:52 EST
Bob S ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
There are a number of folks who like the Older K lenses.
(I think of Daphne the Israeli who was collecting them.)
Shel Belinkoff, a longtime member of this list, was the K-series lenses'
most articulate and passionate advocate.
in K mount:
Pentax SMC 85-210/3.5
in screwmount:
Takumar 18mm f/11
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Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Digital camera obsolescence is REAL obsolescence. It shows not only in the
dropping prices of new items, but in the failure of used items to hold
value, and in the increasing REAL capability of the equipment.
If anyone doubts this, compare the number of
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:32 PM
Subject: FS: Omega 4X5F w Nikor W 210/5.6
Since I am not shooting 4x5 anymore...
Omega 45F camera w extra bellows
Nikor W 210mm f/5.6 w/caps on mounted lens board
17 4x5
Except that the REAL capability of the original piece has not
deteriorated, has it?
So the obsolescence is in the mind, not the camera. Not so?
The fact that those cameras in direct line have increased their
capabilities is really beside the point.
If you WANT those new features, great. Have
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 03:55 PM, Peter Smekal wrote:
What do you think is the most unknown Pentax lens?
My guess: SMC M 35-70/2.8-3.5.
Peter Smekal
Uppsala, Sweden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd guess the M 35/1.4, the 20/1.4, the 300/2 or any other prototypes
Pentax showed and then
How about the Spot-Matic, the one
shown in 1960 with an actual spot meter inside.
JCO
Hi Tonghang,
It sounds like the same story I read last night, which had me digging
through last week's emails and realizing I'd been had.
I'm slipping up and getting less paranoid the older I get. : - [ Not a
good thing. I think I need to put up some posters reminding myself,
Smart people
It is too good to be true-- I checked the guy's feedback and the very
first negative feedback I came across was a disgruntled buyer who negged
him for not honoring the deal.
I suspect anyone else who thinks they have a deal have got a dud...
Sid B
Steve Pearson wrote:
Is this really for sale?
I found a SMC Tak 300mm f4 some time ago.
One just went for $202 on eBay.
It is very good, maybe outstanding IMHO.
Regards, Bob S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All the smct lenses over 150 are very good but not outstanding IMHO.
I think one point is being missed here. Different things have different
points of obsolescence, and something being obsolete does not necessarily
mean that it is unusable or impractical to use. I shoot with a K-1000 and K
M series lenses. All are out of production and obsolete but are still
very
You're sure it's an LS lens?
-Original Message-
From: Collin Brendemuehl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Spotted Locally
If anyone is interested, Cord has a
Pentax 645
with 120 insert
75/2.8 LS lens
One thing to watch out for if processing C-41 at home. The room temperature
C-41 kits give you a different balance then regular C-41. Where you are
shooting 4x5 and I'm assuming scanning to print on your inkjet this is of no
real concern. It causes problems with minilab quality machine prints so
there are room temperature C41 kits? Yippie!
Sign me up.Who/where/web
JCO
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From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Home E6 or C41?
One thing to watch out for if processing
Isn't this the same design as the SMCK 300/4? I'm curious as to how it
compares to the M*/A* 300/4.
Thanks,
William in Utah
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: Screw Mount!
I found a SMC Tak 300mm
I have all the Taks over 150 and I still use them.
They just dont seem to be as outrageous quality
as the normal and short tele smcts are. I could be
wrong as I havent really tested them on a solid
tripod. The 500mm 1000mm are definately a notch down
though, chromatic aberrations can be seen on
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This is not my auction!
John Daniele
You have 33kv lines in the streets in Australia? My God! Are your power
companies and legislators insane?
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