One has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other.
Two entirely separate situations.
No-one is trying to impress you. Get over it.
keith
frank theriault wrote:
>
> Bob's son Aaron is lying in a hospital somewhere, wondering if he's going to lose a
> foot, and you guys get into this discussion. Sh
while browsing for other new Pentax SLRs, i see that the MZ-S has now
become a special order item at B&H.
Either the demand was too low or Pentax was ready to launch a replacement,
or B&H thought the *istD would kill the MZ-S instantly?
regards,
Alan Chan
- Original Message -
From: Jens Bladt
Subject: RE: Digital vs. film again
> Hi William
> That surprises me. I always thought of 100 lppm as the sound wall of
35mm
> photographic film technology.
Always take the lower value when given resolution numbers. 6:1 toc
represents a value close
while browsing for other new Pentax SLRs, i see that the MZ-S has now become a special
order item at B&H.
Herb
OK, this is it, the one time I'm going to agree with Frank.
I have a son who is old enough to be in the military. The anguish that a
parent goes through when a child is hurt is deeper than any other.
Politics have nothing to do with the trauma to Bob and Aaron's personal
world.
BR
[EMAIL PROTE
Bob's son Aaron is lying in a hospital somewhere, wondering if he's going to lose a
foot, and you guys get into this discussion. Shame on both of you!
I'm not impressed. This really ain't the time...
-frank
Keith Whaley wrote:
> mishka wrote:
> >
> > you have probably meant "except that it st
No, what he meant was that the flash exposure compensation has to be
controlled by Z-1p (just like it does with any other TTL flash), and not
by 360FGZ itself.
The flash exposure compensation feature in 360FGZ only works in P-TTL
mode. So only cameras with P-TTL compatibility, such as MZ-S, MZ-6/ZX
hi Tom,
They were either schmoozing (but they weren't cute women, so I didn't care) or
they knew nothing about cameras (most likely).
And, I was joking about the fedora .
cheers,
frank
T Rittenhouse wrote:
> They were only smoozing you up, Frank. With a real BBC they look, but are
> very carfu
Bob,
You have my deepest sympathy. Just make sure your son knows who proud we are
of
him!
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: "Dr E D F Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 2:10 AM
Subject: Iraq and your son
> B
Damn you, Vic!
I wish I could have gone. I know a few guys on the Jet Fuel Team (didja see any of
them there?). I think Andrew (don't know his last name) won something big last year
- I wonder how he did this year?
Anyway, all the Jet Fuel guys were going in a couple of cars, but there was no e
Great, thanks for the help everyone!!!
On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 07:35 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
Joshua,
With the Z1-p it should be done from the body. Set the flash to
regular TTL and off you go.
Bruce
Sunday, June 29, 2003, 1:51:04 PM, you wrote:
JH> I am using these two pieces of equipm
Just a note to tell everyone what a good day I had. Actually I should not say
that until I get the results back but: Went out to shoot the Canadian cycle
championship throught the streets of Hamilton, Ont. Canada today. Used an LX
with winder, PZ1 and MZ-S. The LX was loaded with 200 ektachrome,
fastpat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Thanks for the business and sex advice."
>
>Once again, PDML answers all your questions.
Man, if we at the PDML could solve our own problems as well as we can
everyone else's, we'd be in great shape!
--
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.co
Joshua,
With the Z1-p it should be done from the body. Set the flash to
regular TTL and off you go.
Bruce
Sunday, June 29, 2003, 1:51:04 PM, you wrote:
JH> I am using these two pieces of equipment together and want to
JH> underexpose the flash by one stop (TTL). This flash unit allows you
mishka wrote:
>
> you have probably meant "except that it start out as JWB appointee and does
> exactly what it's told", right?
>
> and as far as threat goes... in recent history, iraq has made far less
> damage to the world than either britain or usa (or france, or germany or
> russia for that
Joshua, the 360FGZ unit will work with Z1-p in plain TTL mode,
which doesn't allow flash compensation (as opposed to P-TTL,
available only with MZ-S and later bodies).
So the answer is adjust the output from the body.
Servus, Alin
Joshua wrote:
JH> I am using these two pieces of
They were only smoozing you up, Frank. With a real BBC they look, but are
very carful not to bother the important professional photographer. You are
obviously too busy and above talking to lowly people like them. It is really
funny. LOL!
The fedora would, I think, be too much. Maybe back in the 50
Bob, sorry to hear the news about the injury that your son sustained in
Iraq.
I wish him a speed recovery and that he is soon reunited with his family.
Harry
--
Harold Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm still seeing the old Synchronicity stuff from June. :-(
Anybody else on AOL having this problem from the USA?
I've cleaned out the browser cashe...
Bob S.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> http://pug.komkon.org/
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Alan Chan wrote:
> You mean no flash compensation at all when Z-1p + 360FGZ? Pls fogive me that
> I do not quite understand fully.
No, what he meant was that the flash exposure compensation has to be
controlled by Z-1p (just like it does with any other TTL flash), and not
by 3
Unsnipped for maximum effect:
>So, while I'm hobbling around trying to find the sundry crap she's
>left in various pews, she's weepily enjoying the proceedings.
>
>Anyway, things got off to a bad start as she was running late. I get
>really antsy when I'm running late. I've never actually *been* l
I found some 135mm lenses in the July PUG - 4 in fact.
None "say" Takumar (Bayonet) 135mm f/2.5, however.
Steve Desjardins "True Feelings" was shot with his MZ-S, using a Takumar
135mm f/2.5. Doesn't say "bayonet."
Jos Van der Hijden's "Doelschietgen", an MX with Takumar 135mm f/2.5.
Same comments
>A little background. #7 had been retired for a while. Basically, she's
>not really cut out for assisting. She likes going to weddings, but
>she's not particularly interested in working them. I get a lot of
>this:
>
>http://www.bigdayphoto.com/images/ashiInChurch.jpg
Tell you what Tom, if you coul
Bob,
I'm very sorry to hear about your son.
I can only add my hope for his quick recovery.
Ciao,
Gianfranco
(2nd attempt, something has gone wrong, it seems...)
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Once again, PDML answers all your questions.
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You mean no flash compensation at all when Z-1p + 360FGZ? Pls fogive me that
I do not quite understand fully.
regards,
Alan Chan
If you are using the 360FGZ at the Z-1p, only the TTL will work on the
flash.
An in this mode, there is no exposure compansation at the flash.
The exposure compensation
you have probably meant "except that it start out as JWB appointee and does
exactly what it's told", right?
and as far as threat goes... in recent history, iraq has made far less
damage to the world than either britain or usa (or france, or germany or
russia for that matter).
this rhethoric a
Okay then. It was there, of course.
I went to the original site I quoted, and simply removed "general/"
I don't have a clue as to why I got the 'general' hooked onto the first part.
I will look for all the 135mm f/2.5 shots. Make up my mind how good they
are, see if I can come up with something to
If you are using the 360FGZ at the Z-1p, only the TTL will work on the
flash.
An in this mode, there is no exposure compansation at the flash.
The exposure compensation at the flash
will only work together with the MZ-S, MZ-6 and *ist.
regards
Rüdiger
Von: Alan Chan
>I have the same question. I
http://www.expita.com/nomime.html
How to configure clients for plain text (including AOL's mail). For anyone
interested. Maybe some long timer can bookmark this page if this problem ever
comes up again for a newbie.
Doe aka Marnie ;-) Whew. This is *so* much nicer than using AOL's web mail.
> -Original Message-
> From: Len Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> My God! Tom! Are you married to #7, or just living with
> her? If you're
> not married to her, it's time to change assistants!
See my response to Rittenhouse...basically the ankle injury happend
about 12 hours before th
You should have left the comments about democracy, republics, and
constitutional government out because this will cause people to use the PDML
for political comments.
Let's just talk about photography.
Jim A.
> From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sun, 29
After all this you expect me to keep quite?
Wait .. Virginia ... put down that duct tape ... get back ... hmpfff
hmpfffddl sdffsdfsd jjfj
:)
At 01:50 PM 6/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am no fan of democracy:
A Democracy is three wolves and two shee
Well, honestly, she started as an assistant, and she was ok. After a
while, she retired for the reasons stated.
I called all 5 of my regular assistants, none could make it. I even
called a couple of pros who are friends on the off-chance they weren't
working. I had no choice...I couldn't do it alo
> we have an quiet argument, which escalates into a louder
> argument in the car, I sleep on the couch.
Maybe it was a given, and I missed it... but I always suspected that your
assistants had a tendency to work overtime. Thanks for the confirmation.
> BTW, here's what my ankle looked like when
Anthony Farr wrote:
"John,
Reflections off the internal surfaces between the negative carrier and
the lens will lower the contrast of an enlarging system. Condensor
enlargers send their light straight through the neg to the lens and
avoid too much spill onto the inner surfaces below the neg car
Hi!
Thanks Dag and thanks Tom. I actually thought that Tak was uncoated
all together. Still I find it a fine portrait lens . By the way at
least two this month's PUGs were done with Tak K 135/2.5 .
I suppose then that if as a matter of course I attach UV or skylight
filters to my lenses in order
My God! Tom! Are you married to #7, or just living with her? If you're
not married to her, it's time to change assistants!
Len
---
Hi
I found this interesting article in an Australian Magasine:
http://www.melbpc.org.au/pcupdate/2303/2303article4.htm
Megapixels - How Many Is Enough?
Jay Turberville
Regards
Jens
Absolutely! Instant respect. Among people who know the difference, the
Super 23 is definitely "one up" over the Universal because of its tilts
and swings.
Len
---
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 12:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTEC
You don't even get a little sympathy from me on this, Tom. That is not an
assistant, that is a girlfriend. The two are not interchangable. Good
photographic assistants are hard to find. There is a potential grilfriend in
every bar. Getting them confused is not very professional.
Ciao,
Graywolf
htt
And a very fine PUG it is. Thanks, Adelheid.
Joe
Hi William
That surprises me. I always thought of 100 lppm as the sound wall of 35mm
photographic film technology.
Jens
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 28. juni 2003 19:27
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Digital vs. film again
- Original M
Hi Frank
Good points? I don't really know why the subject keeps turning up. Perhaps
because most pro's use other 35mm brands than Pentax, which obviously makes
some 35mm Pentax users feel bad. (It's nice to be a supporter of the winning
team - to supplement to your sports metafore!
Regards
Jens
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Son...
> I talked about being free and have made no mention of democracy.
Of course. Mind that I wrote: "I think the Iraqi people feel it and are
afraid of the possibility to be forced to accept the democracy".
You will be treated as one. Almost as good, but it don't pay the rent
.
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: Is the MZ-S only fo amateurs?
Better ways to save:
Make sure developing is great. No scratches, dust etc. Leave out prints, but
get the negs scanned. You can always order "reprints" of the best shots.
That's what I do, now a days!
Jens
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 28.
Jeez, what a day.
A little background. #7 had been retired for a while. Basically, she's
not really cut out for assisting. She likes going to weddings, but
she's not particularly interested in working them. I get a lot of
this:
http://www.bigdayphoto.com/images/ashiInChurch.jpg
So, while I'm hob
Pål Jensen wrote:
>
>John wrote:
>>
>>This so-called "enormous cost" is an illusion put
>>about by people who think they cannot afford
>>Leica.
>
>
>Illusion? The back alone cost $4500 at a time
>when similarly specced digital solution will
>likely cost $1000 or less.
Pål,
Quoting a projected pr
> And to further make the point; when I was using that monstrous Mamiya
> Universal Press (Black Model), I always got a lot of respect because I was
> obviously a Pro!
Does this mean that if I carry my black Mamiya Super 23 with the Metz 45 CT
1 attached, I can be a "Pro"?
Bill
First, I want to thank you and everyone for the support and sentiments
expressed here. I'm printing them up to give to Aaron when it becomes
appropriate to visit him in the hospital in Germany. Just knowing that there
are folks out there who care is a great comfort to those who are wounded,
scared
Hats off to all for YetAnotherPugGallery.
Here are a few of my favorites, in no particular order:
"Doelschieten" by Jos van der Hijden:
Not only a good shot, but done with manual focus
equipment at a wide aperature. Lucky or skill?
"Yellow Warbler" by Mark Cassino:
This is the kind of shot we'v
Actually, I learned about this back in 1961 when I first tried making money
with my new Pentax H3.
A guy wanted me to point him to a wedding photographer. No, I wouldn't do,
he wanted a pro, "Some one with a big black camera" (a direct quote). So, I
gave him the name of a friend that used a Crown
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: My Son...
> My son is in Iraq.
First, I really do hope your son will be all right. Best wishes for him and
for you.
> I do not understand the Iraqi people. At least the French formed an
> underground and after the war
In addition to Greywolfs answer, let me add that putting a coated
filter on an uncoated lens will not reduce flare. It will, in fact ,
increase it, but not as much as it would if you used an uncoated
filter. Flare increases with the number of lens elements, but
decreases with the quality and
The biggest problem with electronics and cameras is moisture. At some
point in the production live of the F3, Nikon went to conformal coating
for the circuit boards. This seals the electronics better than sealing
the body.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
don't know about f4, but f3 is not sealed,
My experience with scanned film is limited to frontier style machines,
which scan the film and print it on RA4. I did a few scans myself here
and there, but really didn't like the process. The results were ok, I
just never wanted to deal with the process of scanning.
Anyway, frontier prints are pr
I had trouble again with the auto submit and tried copy and paste to an
e-mail, didn't work correctly. Knowing this group, someone will call me on
it so the missing info for my submission is: Camera - Pentax Z-1P, Lens -
SMCP FA* 300/4.5 Media Fuji Superia 800 shot aperture priority F 4.5
BUTCH
E
I hope you got through the wedding OK. With all the moving around and
hauling gear I don't know how you could pull it off without a good
assistant or two.
BR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I severely sprained my ankle last night. The x-ray didn't show a
break, but that doesn't help the fact that I c
don't know about f4, but f3 is not sealed, afaik.
there's a good reason why lx has a lens between the screen anf the
finder. i suspect it's a lot more difficult
to make interchangeable screens f3-style, that would also keep the
camera sealed.
mishka
From: "whickersworld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subj
Gary L. Murphy wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone gotten his hands on a BG-20 battery grip for the *ist?
Pentax USA says they've shipped; B&H, Adorama says they have not
received a unit.
BTW... Go to, http://store.yahoo.com/opticsplanet/peaavegrbgfo.html
It's $79.99 USD including Fre
I wish this had not happened.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob,
I'm sorry to hear about your Son's injury
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anyone gotten his hands on a BG-20 battery grip for the *ist?
Pentax USA says they've shipped; B&H, Adorama says they have not received a unit.
Yup, my wife received hers Friday from OpticsPlanet.
It makes the *ist extremely nice to hold and the vertical release is gr
Has anyone gotten his hands on a BG-20 battery grip for the *ist?
Pentax USA says they've shipped; B&H, Adorama says they have not received a unit.
John wrote:
Just like the *ist D's only function is to
convince potential customers to buy into
the Pentax FA* system because there's a digital future there
too?
REPLY:
No. The MD-S was. The *ist D will be released in a months time. The R9 digital back
will be *shown* in 1,5 years time. The ba
John wrote:
This so-called "enormous cost" is an illusion put
about by people who think they cannot afford
Leica.
REPLY:
Illusion? The back alone cost $4500 at a time when similarly specced digital solution
will likely cost $1000 or less. On thing is the case for expensive Leica lenses and
b
John wrote:
It is quite clear that the Leica R8 and R9
were designed from the ground up to be
BOTH film AND digital cameras. This back
is not some half-baked add-on accessory,
it is an intrinsic part of the Leica R8/R9
system.
REPLY:
It was designed in the mid 90's where it might have bee
Bruce wrote:
Western marketing mindset it to get interest going with tidbit, product flashes.
Perhaps the Eastern mindset is to not reveal anything until it is finished. Other
Japanese companies are much more Western than Pentax.
REPLY:
They are. However, they have impoved somewhat in the las
I agree with you, Tom.
I guess one of the points I was trying to make in my last post, is that the line
between Pro and Amateur is so blurred, that it renders either term almost
meaningless in many situations.
Personally, I know (very casually) a fellow who is an AP photojournalist. He
also free
Hi, John,
I couldn't resist! I knew it would get a rise out of you, though. ;-)
cheers,
frank
whickersworld wrote:
> frank theriault wrote:
> >
> > I guess Mark Cassino's an amateur?
>
> I guess he is one of the very, very few
> exceptions that prove the rule!
>
> ;-)
--
"What a senseless wa
TV, have you compared scanned film to digital? If so,
what's your take on this approach? What size negs have
you scanned, and what size have you printed them at?
tom wrote:
For years, we've been reading posts on this list and other as to how
it's mathematically impossible that digital will ever e
frank theriault wrote:
>
> I guess Mark Cassino's an amateur?
I guess he is one of the very, very few
exceptions that prove the rule!
;-)
Alan Chan wrote:
>
> I have always thought Pentax lenses have not-so-high
contrast and
> not-so-vivid colour in general. At least that is the case
when compared to
> Nikkors, or Pentax 67 lenses against Mamiya 7 lenses.
Hi Alan,
No doubt someone will correct me if I
am wrong, but I have always a
Graywolf wrote:
>
> The problem with interchangeable backs on 35mm cameras is
not patents, but
> technology. It is simply that digital sensors have not
been on the surface
> of the chip but buried behind a protective surface and
then maybe an
> antialiasing filter over that.
>
> What does that mean
Marnie aka Doe wrote:
>
> Yes, that's quite different. And agreed.
Thanks!
John
mishka wrote:
>
> you want it sealed against element , have interchangeable
finders,
> interchangeable screens and have easy access to insides?
Of course! My Nikon F3 and F4 both did, so why so you
suggest it is not reasonable to expect that of the Pentax?
In fact, the LX does well in all resp
John,
Reflections off the internal surfaces between the negative carrier and the
lens will lower the contrast of an enlarging system. Condensor enlargers
send their light straight through the neg to the lens and avoid too much
spill onto the inner surfaces below the neg carrier (except for Callie
Hi *,
the July PUG is ready to go.
This one is one day early - the August one will be around the 24th of
July, since I shall be on holiday after that day.
Hope you don't mind.
I lost one photo on the way between the servers - I'll include it as
soon as I get it.
Cheers
Adelheid
URL:
http://p
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