Tell this to the potential customers who cannot try before they buy.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Shouldn't we make our decision after taking some pictures with it?
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I agree about the lens issue. Months ago I was excited about the Pentax
digital offering because I, like others, thought all the K mount lenses I
own would function on it. I'm not one who wants to ruin a perfectly good K
mount lens by having it fall off the camera using the technique you
Only if they are willing to do some serious markrting.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
3. It's true that Pentax does have some reputation rebuilding to do.
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I think the appropiate marketing will keep the *ist D from became another
loser, but unlikely to become a real winner.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Me too. If Pentax were to spend a bit on marketing the *istD, it could
be a real winner. Just the small size and AA battery use give it
Consider similar products like 10D D100 have been around for some time, 1
year seem generous indeed. However, Pentax have the tendency to slowly
update their products and Pentax users are used to hold on to their cameras
longer. *ist D users might be satisfied a little longer than Canon or
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The smooth side should be good enough you say then.
I see what you mean about the felt atracting dust etc.
Thats why your in Saskatchewan and im stuck in Ontario.vbg
Dust is an issue here.
AND, it is not just camera stores. Best Buy, Office Max, CompUSA, and
other office and/or computer stores have quite a stock of digital
cameras. Presumably they catch the casual shopper looking for a computer
peripheral rather than the photographer looking for a new camera. I have
not seen any
TPDML?
Where ?? I might be picking up my new vehicle Saturday.I'll know around 8:30am
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some D10 users have mentioned
to me that they have to shoot
a bit
earlier to get the action they want.
It's not as fast as some other cameras but it's not so slow you
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just (minutes ago) made a 12 x 18 inch print from one of my *ist-D
shots from last weekend:
(http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/IMGP0068.htm) and all I can
say is HOLY SH*T! Amazing! I could sell this as a fine art print next to
any of my shots printed from
Cameron, jeeze, it's so simple.
Your momma dresses you funny.
grin. -Lon
Cameron Hood wrote:
Threds about beer and the blackout can carry on unchecked, but if I
mention a Mac I get screamed at? Which is more applicable to
photography? I use my computer constanly for editing, printing
Why? Because they can only take one step @ a time.
The 300D is more of an answer to Sony's similarly-priced
fixed zoom unit.
What has kept me away from a Pentax PS digital is one simple thing --
the lack of a dedicated flash shoe.
They do a well at hitting the casual enthusiast market
but no
Whew!
Got back to the USA on Saturday night. Back home Monday night. I
subscribed in time to hear about the Camera Clinic I missed at GFM :-( I
had a friend take a shot with the Optio S to show why I could not make the
clinic. Two shots and they were both blurry. I guess he could not stand
Not in the near future. Too many things need replacing to upgrade the
sensor, related electronics, firmware, etc. The body itself is still
relatively inexpensive compared to the electronics.
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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From: Boris Liberman
When you consider all the US bashing that goes on, at least our governments
do not make more off what a merchant sells than the merchant does (except
for booze, smokes, and gasoline).
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
I expect by 1/1/04 we'll see a Pentax dslr @ the $250 price point
with 4-6 Mp. *istD-5n.
CRB
Collin, I wanna sniff what you're sniffin there boy!
Cheers,
Cotty
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Kenneth,
You can't always judge a thread by its title.
Boris was considering a supplementary question, regarding an F 85/2.8 Soft
for which he was awaiting delivery. The pertinent quote from his message
(that you'll find in his part of the Original Message) is, But then I
suppose it means that
Wonder if it
will arrive in time for either the sprint triathlon or the seafood and
pirate festival I help put on in September...
Anyway, I will be active on the list (promises, promises), but it will have
to wait. I am headed to Bristol race track in Tennesse on Friday afternoon.
And through
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From: Frits Wuthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 August 2003 16:07
To: Pentax-Discuss
Subject: any news?
I have been un-subscribed due to my move since 27 July. Is there any news
since then? How about the *ist D ?
Frits
Official release date 29/08/12,
Hi!
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:50:02 +0100
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jumping Jupiter!
And the rest was totally unimportant. I laffed for few minutes
straight. I am still chuckling...
Cotty, you got me on this one...
Boris
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Hey David,
Did it knock? It certainly couldn't ring the doorbell
it's not tall enough. Perhaps a 1200mm f8 could ring
the doorbell however? Maybe I should order one to find
out. Na, I think a new car would be a better
investment.
Unsincerely,
Ryan
--- David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 01:37 AM, William Robb wrote:
Nikon has a more reasonable product turnover, they seem to have real
technical improvements before the release a new camera.
Pentax will probably chug along with the *ist D for a couple of years
before
releasing another digital SLR
Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been un-subscribed due to my move since 27 July. Is there any
news since then?
How about the *ist D ?
Oh, a bit :-)
Supposed to be hitting the streets (in the U.S.) next month. Price of
$1699 for camera body, $1899 with the 18-35 zoom.
A few of us
Hi Frank,
I just read this (taking me awhile to catch up on my PDML). It's a
bummer, especially having to temporarily move away from your kids.
But hey, like you saidit's big opportunity, too (got to be better than
ending up a flat, frozen popsicle).
Hang in there.
Dan
On Thursday, August
Anybody have this lens? I'm looking at buying one to replace my 200/4 M.
Is it as good as the M? Stan's page has no comments for it. Please
don't comment on the A* Macro or FA* Macro. They are way out of my league.
Thanks!
Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark Roberts wrote:
I just (minutes ago) made a 12 x 18 inch print from one of my *ist-D
shots from last weekend:
Hi Mark,
What was the dpi of that image at 12 x 18?
Thanks Mark. Is that $1699 the street price?
Thanks for posting the images, can't wait to hold a *ist D in my hands
and try it out, including getting an enlargement.
Frits
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 20:04, Mark Roberts wrote:
Frits Wuthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been un-subscribed due
Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Roberts wrote:
I just (minutes ago) made a 12 x 18 inch print from one of my *ist-D
shots from last weekend:
Hi Mark,
What was the dpi of that image at 12 x 18?
I assume you mean ppi (pixels per inch) output resolution?
Since the *ist-D maximum
Hey, Anthony,
H Knowing Aaron a bit, as I do, I doubt that he's 35 yet - could be,
but I think he's younger.
Agreed
But, I realized that it wasn't him when I read about this fellow running two
blocks. That's not the Aaron we all know! vbg
Hi guys;
There's an article on Schneider and his lost POY awards at PDN
http://pdnonline.com
He was the guy that spoke at GFM.
Butch
Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.
Hermann Hess (Demian)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: 300D
A 20% markup would make it about 585.
Bill, I might think I had died and gone to heaven. 20%? - I dream of 20%
Around here mark ups on camera equipment
- Original Message -
From: Alan Chan
Subject: Re: *istD and the future (WAS: Re: Digital Formats and Partial
Coverage Lenses)
A couple of years seem a looong period for digital cameras.
This is the company that kept the LX in the lineup for 20 years we are
talking about.
William
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From: Dan Scott
Subject: Re: *istD and the future (WAS: Re: Digital Formats and Partial
Coverage Lenses)
I wish mostly for Pentax to catch up with technologies already on the
market, and (gasp) actually innovate once in awhile. Refinement of
existing
Thanks for posting the images, can't wait to hold a *ist D in my hands
and try it out, including getting an enlargement.
Frits old boy, from what we've been reading here lately, you hold that
*ist D in your hands and you'll definitely get an enlargement.
:-)
Cheers,
Cotty
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The higher level camera is harder to figure. Maybe
not too
different than
the istD, but with a higher res sensor (a bigger
sensor would
require a
whole new viewfinder system), full mechanical
coupling, USB 2.0,
and better
firmware.
Ciao,
Graywolf
Hi Christian,
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:39:09 -0400, Christian Skofteland wrote:
Anybody have this lens? I'm looking at buying one to replace my
200/4 M. Is it as good as the M?
I have the SMC-A 200/4, but I've never used the M version, so I can't
offer a comparison. I've been very happy with
And from my point of view he did nothing that changed the meaning of the
photographs. Getting rid of a distracting background is a long long way from
cloning in someone who wasn't there. I think this is all coming about
because people are now buying digital cameras. Almost all of them come with
Hi Christian,
I'm looking at buying one to replace my 200/4 M.
Is this for *ist compatibility? I ask because that's what I'm doing at the
moment.
I wonder if the price of A glass will go up and M down?
Cheers,
Simon
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From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Christian,
Is this for *ist compatibility? I ask because that's what I'm doing at the
moment.
I wonder if the price of A glass will go up and M down?
Cheers,
Simon
Why yes it is! *ist-D to be more acurate.
I'm
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 01:04 PM, Dan Scott wrote:
That was supposed to be off list.
:-(
On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 05:13 PM, William Robb wrote:
Dan, they have been selling buggy whips to people who are too darned
stubborn to buy into horseless carriages for about 15 years now.
This is their market.
William Robb
Looking at my gear, I can see that's truebut even I'd be in
Cotty challenged...
Now if I was a Pentax, what model would I be?
Dare I say an ME super;
Middle aged, still in good working order and enjoy a regular servicing?
Simon
PS
There's a line in there about works best when lubricated, but I didn't
want to go there...
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test 2
I wonder if the price of A glass will go up and M down?
I'm thinking that A prices will go up and Ms and Ks down.
My thoughts, too. I know that I'm looking at some of my ol' pre-A
lenses in a new light (so to speak - g).
I've been lucky in one regard - Over a period of time now I've been
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From: T Rittenhouse
Subject: Re: PDN article
And from my point of view he did nothing that changed the meaning of the
photographs. Getting rid of a distracting background is a long long way
from
cloning in someone who wasn't there. I think this is all coming
Did I pass?
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No, you failed test 1
William Robb
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From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: test 2
Did I pass?
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--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No,
you failed test 1
William Robb
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From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: test 2
Did I pass?
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Return privileges on everything.
[Shipping cost via USPS Priority Mail will be added.]
$10 SC-21 LX Finder screen, good condition. In box in (mismatched) case
with tool and instructions. This one is the original that came in LXen - a
ground glass field with a central small microprism grid.
$15
Not sure how long it has been there, but Pentax USA now has a 4-page
brochure on the D available as a .pdf from the website (to supplement the
spec sheet that has been up for several days.) Detailed photos of camera
controls, etc.
Stan
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From: Doug Franklin
Subject: Re: PDN article
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:56:14 -0600, William Robb wrote:
But where do you draw the line?
Do you draw it at no editorializing? Just a bit?
And who decides if the content has effectively changed?
To me, that's the
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