RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-13 Thread Rob Brigham
Ha Ha, LOL! Have you got the names and addresses of the people who bought those 'white elephants'? I wonder if they want to buy a nice bucket of pure Bristol water for a lot of money? -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2003 19:56 To: pentax

Re: FS: Super Takumar 35/3.5

2003-10-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: And I had mentioned I wanted to pull A Cotty ;-) and put some Pentax screwmounts on my Canon for future PUGs. Be advised that a standard M42/EOS adapter like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2957595450category=4687 *may*

RE: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-13 Thread Rob Brigham
I have thought about it, honestly, for many years - but it just seems like too much of a pain in the a**e. I really like the look of the 645, didn't really like the 67 (sorry brothers), especially the finder. Its been a constant should I, shouldn't I situation. I think what has ultimately

RE: test

2003-10-13 Thread Rob Brigham
I've got a copy of the answers if you need to see it first - do you a good deal Cotty! -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2003 22:13 To: pentax list Subject: Re: test On 13/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: It was a simple test so I

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-13 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Tom, I think that Chrysler (sorry, I just can't call them Daimler-Chrysler, even though I know that's what they are) bought shares of only the motor vehicle division of Mitshibushi, not the entire conglomerate. I do recall that when the deal was announced several years ago, it was

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-13 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Rob Brigham wrote: I have thought about it, honestly, for many years - but it just seems like too much of a pain in the a**e. I really like the look of the 645, didn't really like the 67 (sorry brothers), especially the finder. Its been a constant should I, shouldn't I situation. I

Re: Puzzled over lack of comments

2003-10-13 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Vic, I'm sort of in the same boat as Ann. The page loads on my 'puter, but it takes those thumbs forever, and I really don't have the time to wait about 5 minutes for them all to load. But, also having said that, I didn't notice the request for comments or the url being posted when you

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-13 Thread Anders Hultman
William Johnson: Yeah, GM owns SAAB now, but I know looking at the new models that the key is still between the seats! :-) Yes, but it's electronic, and you don't have to put it in reverse to take the key out! anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/

Re: Henry's Camera very annoying

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Levy
Vic- Have you ever heard of Spif. It's the extra money the sales person gets for selling that (day's, week's, month's) featured item. I wonder if you were paying the Spif penalty. Many salespeople will over-push whatever is paying them spif in that period. It may help the seller's income, but it

Re: Vs: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-13 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] GM does own Isuzu, much like they own Saab and a number of other companies. But they don't build Isuzu cars or Saab cars. Nor do they build the transmission Bill is complaining about. They do make GM cars, which have scored

FS: Last Chance - PZ-1p and lenses still available

2003-10-13 Thread DiMaggio, Marc
Hi, The following equipment is still available. All lenses have front and rear caps, although they may be generic. Everything comes with a 10-day inspection period. Prices include insured UPS shipping in the US. I will consider overseas offers on a case-by-case basis. Prices are fairly

RE: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-13 Thread Rob Brigham
Well I've got the cape, and I did feel the force of the dark side (oops sorry, you said dark slide!) for a long while, but then Pentax brought out a DSLR called the Yoda*ist, which saved me from the evil Canon Trade Federation for now! I love the mechanics of some of the LF cameras, from an

RE: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-13 Thread Bucky
Alex, I have question about this photo - there are several spines on that flower that are completely blown out for long stretches. I've downloaded it and checked it out with the Curves tool in Photoshop. Have you noticed that this is a problem with the camera? I could imagine a few specular

Take this simple test

2003-10-13 Thread Cotty
Regarding RAW shots on the *ist D, Rob wrote: RAW only gives 70 shots even on 1Gb. [snip] Rob, promise me you'll do one little test: 1. Take a RAW shot of a nice landscape. 2. Now switch to large/fine jpeg mode and take another shot of same. 3. Extract RAW shot later on computer, have it

Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-13 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] That's not the case with the *ist D: when you apply enough USM to let pictures look acceptable when smaller than 1:1 on video, when you enalarge them 1:1 angled lines such as hair or grass are so much saw-toothed.

Re: Pulling a Cotty-was:Re: FS: Super Takumar 35/3.5

2003-10-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I mean, from Cotty's POV, wanting to put M42's on a digital camera, he'd have to modify (being a pre-*ist D endeavor for him). But, you're using a film camera anyway, so is it really necessary to mutilate your Canon for that purpose? Not that I have

RE: Metering reflections

2003-10-13 Thread Ramesh Kumar
--- josvdh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ramesh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is a scenario. Assume you are shooting a reflection of sunlit tree; reflection is occupying full frame. Water is dark except for the reflection. When I spot

RE: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-13 Thread alex wetmore
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Bucky wrote: I have question about this photo - there are several spines on that flower that are completely blown out for long stretches. I've downloaded it and checked it out with the Curves tool in Photoshop. Have you noticed that this is a problem with the camera? I

Re: Take this simple test

2003-10-13 Thread alex wetmore
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Cotty wrote: Regarding RAW shots on the *ist D, Rob wrote: RAW only gives 70 shots even on 1Gb. [snip] Rob, promise me you'll do one little test: 1. Take a RAW shot of a nice landscape. 2. Now switch to large/fine jpeg mode and take another shot of same. 3.

Re: Fantastic *ist-D and Lenses

2003-10-13 Thread graywolf
I don't believe anybody here thinks you ought to buy an istD. Or any other camera. None are perfect, and obviously you will be unhappy with an imperfect cameras. For the rest of us, we live in the real world where hardly anything is perfect and are glad when something meets most of our

Re: Puzzled over lack of comments

2003-10-13 Thread wendy beard
http://hometown.aol.ca/pentxuser/page15.html Hi Vic, Whenever I've gone to have a look, the page had been very slow loading and when I've clicked to get a bigger image then nothing has come up. This time, I just waited and something eventually popped up. Maybe that's the reason people haven't

Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-13 Thread Bill Owens
Have you changed the sharpness in the camera to maximum from medium? Bill - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:16 PM Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!! Jostein, I always apply USM at 100%

Re[2]: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Dario, I would also be interested in the quality in regards to being printed on both an inkjet and a digital lab (Agfa, Fuji, Noritsu). I have found in my own digital endeavors, that many times, the printed output is better or worse than what I view on screen. Thanks, Bruce Monday,

Re: *ist D flash

2003-10-13 Thread Bill Owens
You would gain P-TTL metering and lose considerable power changing to the 360FGZ. Bill - Original Message - From: Bucky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Peepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:21 PM Subject: *ist D flash I gather that the new *ist D also has a new flash

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-13 Thread John Francis
OK, now we're getting to the part where my analysis has to be spot on. Shooting motorsports, I'm not going to have time to review in camera. Not something you want to do, in any case, with large heavy objects whizzing by at 200mph. Not that I haven't seen people doing that; sitting on the

Re: Puzzled over lack of comments

2003-10-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
Hi, Vic. Images load a bit slowly for those of us w/dial-up connections. I think that's why I gave up on them initially. These are nice, and you've obviously put much work into them. One doesn't often see animals done this way. Except for pet portraits, good animal photos have some actual, or

Memory cards and batteries for the ist D? (Now a New Query)

2003-10-13 Thread Joseph Tainter
The buffer on the *ist D is pretty big What is the buffer? Thanks, Joe (whose resistance is cracking)

Re: Memory cards and batteries for the ist D? (Now a New Query)

2003-10-13 Thread cbwaters
It's the amount of data the camera can handle before it has to write some of it to the Flash memory. You take one shot at a time and buffer size isn't relevant but take 6 quick ones and you'll see why it's an issue... Cory Waters - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL

Re: My whine

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
At 11:44 AM 10/10/03, you wrote: What's going on here. I have a new camera that came with a strap with no pocket to hold the flash shoe cover. Why have they dropped compatibility with previous models of camera straps? For people like tv that don't use straps, its a minor problem. For those

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
MZ-3 = ZX/MZ-5n (+ 1/4000 - 2s)(on dial). Great camera but then so is the 5n. At 11:51 AM 10/10/03, you wrote: Hi Joe... What's an MZ-3? Must be a European designation? Discontinued now? Never mind. I always do this. Visit Google.com, and find out all I need to know... The MZ-3 is not available

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-13 Thread Paul
and faster flash sync Peter Alling wrote: MZ-3 = ZX/MZ-5n (+ 1/4000 - 2s)(on dial). Great camera but then so is the 5n. At 11:51 AM 10/10/03, you wrote: Hi Joe... What's an MZ-3? Must be a European designation? Discontinued now? Never mind. I always do this. Visit Google.com, and find out

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
The *ist will give you superior autofocus, and a slightly better light meter if I remember the specifications correctly. It is smaller and lighter and the battery grip has a vertical release, (a nice touch). To get that you get slightly more difficult manual focus, (air prism, not glass so the

Re: OT photoshop elements question

2003-10-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I've answered two of my questions --- Ann Sanfedele wrote: (1) can't find the tool for adding a boarder. In photo deluxe it was under the effects menu. answer (just to share with others -- use the marquee tool then use, of all things, STROKE in the edit menu, now why in the world couldn't

Re: ist 35mm

2003-10-13 Thread arnie
all i need is a better autofocus and better metering. when shooting a family gatherings, i dont have the time for the camera to hunt for focus, by the time its done i missed the shot. and i dont have the time for doing all the manual settings, or compensation. i need to be able to shoot and get a

Re: (OT) Back from my travels

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
...and a good thing too. At 08:41 PM 10/10/03, you wrote: Hey, Jerome, I've never claimed that ~I~ was a productive member of society! cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: jerome [EMAIL

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 17:33:36 -0600, William Robb wrote: I can't actually verify it with my own little eyes, is that the fine JPEG save is pretty much indistinguishable from RAW. As long as I can still do the manipulations I can foresee needing to do, without going nuts, or spending more time

Re: Take this simple test

2003-10-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:55:56 +1000, Paul wrote: I find shooting with my 10D i cant really see any different between Large Jpeg and RAW, except for the flexability of white balance correction. So i only shoot raw when i know i'll have make white balance corrections. I know myself better

Re: Take this simple test

2003-10-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:57:50 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: Will this high speed shooting be out of doors? If so set the white balance to a fixed value and get it right all the time instead. It will, and if a fixed value or the presets is close enough for this usage, that sounds great (can you

Re: K2 DMD

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
It accepts a 2 frame per second motor drive, something you better not try on your average K2. At 04:37 AM 10/11/03, you wrote: Not a camera I have ever seen before, until I saw one on sale in eBay - I've waited for the auction to finish before I mentioned it, and I didn't see the final result

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-13 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi John, On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:36:27 -0400 (EDT), John Francis wrote: Not that I haven't seen people doing that; sitting on the Jersey barrier, back to traffic, paying no attention. I don't even stand around with my back to traffic when I'm flagging (unless I'm the yellow flagger). And I'm

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
Since we don't have a Native SLR industry, (or for that matter camera manufacturers) they can't be accused of dumping. Pentax want's to recapture the US market, it might help if they advertised... At 08:54 AM 10/11/03, you wrote: - Original Message - From: David Mann Subject: Re: Has

Re: Take this simple test

2003-10-13 Thread Bill Owens
The main times I would need to do something different would be in the garages and the dusk/night portions of the Petit le Mans. Occasionally some other shots, too, but they'd be under much less stressful circumstances. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ Under these circumstances you would PROBABLY get

Re: which focusing screen for PZ-1?

2003-10-13 Thread Pentxuser
I have the Beattie screen in an LX and PZ1 and notice no difference in exposure.. Vic It's not much; I believe it's around 1/3 stop in centre-weighted (and who knows what using multi-segment metering). If you're using print film you'll never notice the difference. Even on slide film (with

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-13 Thread Bill Owens
I agree to a point. I've seen mass media ads for Canon and Olympus, but few, if any, for Nikon, and very, very few, and then only PS for Pentax. Bill - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: Re: Has

RE: Henry's Camera very annoying

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
Commission usually comes from the store, they get more work out of an employee by tying some of their compensation to production. When I was selling cameras the big money was Prize money, usually but not necessarily paid by the manufacturer or importer. Even then Pentax didn't offer much extra

Re: Puzzled over lack of comments

2003-10-13 Thread Pentxuser
Well that surely explains a few things. It's time to change this darned AOL site. I'm getting ready to do a real web site with Frontpage that will hopefully solve these problems. Anyways thanks for the comments. Wendy... Vic Hi Vic, Whenever I've gone to have a look, the page had been very

Which zooms for kids?, AF or not?

2003-10-13 Thread Pentxuser
Tim: just a few emails up from this one is an e-mail from someone selling some zooms for the PZ1. I would grab the 28-105 in a second. I have two and love them. Also the 70-200 for sale is worth considering. Those two lenses woould give you everything you need for a long time and they are good

Re: Puzzled over lack of comments

2003-10-13 Thread Pentxuser
Thanks Ken. I know I'm a little close with the ears. The images were taken in a zoo several years ago and I was trying to get in real close so that the ugly backgrounds would not be so noticeable. Little did I know then that I would be scanning the images and literally eliminating the

Re: Puzzled over lack of comments

2003-10-13 Thread Pentxuser
Hi Joe thanks for your comments. Most of these shots were taken at smaller zoos where you can get a little closer to the animals. I went often, had a lot of patience and would have used the Pentax 400 5.6 for most of these shots. It focuses incredibly close... Vic Not sure how you got such

RE: Puzzled over lack of comments

2003-10-13 Thread Pentxuser
Thanks Virgil I appreciate your comments. I really have a good time taking many of my older photos and working with them to make them better. Most of the work in these portraits are really made possible with a program called Painter which has a cloning tool. Painter is to fine artists what

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Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!

2003-10-13 Thread alex wetmore
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Dario Bonazza 2 wrote: Good point. The 24mm should become a 36mm, while depth-of field must be conidered one stop less, hence pictures taken with the 24mm f/4.5 are like those taken at 36mm f/3.5, while 24mm f/11 is like 36mm f/8. However, I was expecting some

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
Auto-tranny, no way, I like to have control over my machines, not the other way around. Ten years and 230,000 miles and the damned thing just came apart. Then don't build them like they used to, and its a good thing too... At 02:00 PM 10/12/03, you wrote: Automatic tranny? I only have 1/10 the

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
The sensor could, (I don't know if it does), actually adjust it's sensitivity on the fly to insure a better exposure. I'm not sure I'd like that. At 02:10 PM 10/12/03, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Old lenses and *ist D Unless the new users might just

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-13 Thread alex wetmore
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Peter Alling wrote: The sensor could, (I don't know if it does), actually adjust it's sensitivity on the fly to insure a better exposure. I'm not sure I'd like that. There is a custom function to select that feature. It is called Sensitivity Correction. The manual says

Re: Take this simple test

2003-10-13 Thread John Francis
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:57:50 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: Will this high speed shooting be out of doors? If so set the white balance to a fixed value and get it right all the time instead. It will, and if a fixed value or the presets is close enough for this usage, that sounds great

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
The problem with the *ist D, as far as I know, is that if it doesn't sense that the lens is in A position it locks the lens aperture wide open but leaves the meter on. With Stop down metering lenses, i.e. those without the K stop down lever such as a M42 lens using an adapter the Camera cannot

Re: Which zooms for kids?, AF or not?

2003-10-13 Thread Alan Chan
My main question is, how important is auto-focus in this situation? I think it's quite important, for me any. And is the auto focus on PZ-1p fast enough to give the benefit? The problem of Z-1p's AF is not speed, but it can focus at the centre only. Just when you need it fast and snap, you have

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Has Pentax missed again? Since we don't have a Native SLR industry, (or for that matter camera manufacturers) they can't be accused of dumping. Well, not quite. Dumping is classified under GATT as selling a good for less than the

Re: unsubscribe

2003-10-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tony Gieske Subject: unsubscribe Is there any way I can unsubscribe from this list? My emails keep being returned. Nope. Yer stuck in this hell forever. Just try to get away. We'll find you. Now suffer. You brought this on yourself. You subscribed to this

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Old lenses and *ist D The sensor could, (I don't know if it does), actually adjust it's sensitivity on the fly to insure a better exposure. I'm not sure I'd like that. It does. Or at least it can. It's one of the custom

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
They relaxed that a couple of years after the Japanese banking system began to melt down. At 11:40 PM 10/12/03, you wrote: Hummm? The guys working at Hydromatic in Ypsilanti might argue about GM not building automatic transmissions with you, Paul. However, I will note that unless the

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
If it's designed to allow updates it probably loads software through the same port you'd download pictures through. You would need software to to do the uploads from a computer. At 08:43 AM 10/13/03, you wrote: Well, we may start a plea to Pentax to make open source of *istd code. Then found

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
GM owned enough of ISUZU to dictate design and production decisions to them in the 70's. GM at one time imported Opel Kadets from Germany and sold them through Buick dealerships of all places. When it became too expensive to get the Opels from Germany they had ISUZU build them and imported

RE: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-13 Thread Bucky
What interests me is how the hell you clean the sensor when the inevitable happens and something gets stuck to it - a piece of eyebrow dander, etc. It won't take much residue to seriously screw up your images. I would gather that you can use a mild breeze, but that canned air stuff that's not

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Alling
It's still a mechanical linkage. It would take statistical measurement of thousands of lenses to make a determination. In a perfect world the electronically controlled system should be more accurate. However it isn't a perfect world. At 01:03 PM 10/13/03, you wrote: - Original Message

RE: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-13 Thread Bucky
Asuna? At 10:16 AM 10/13/03, you wrote: Maybe GM didn't own Isuzu, but wasn't there a marketing agreement between the two, maybe 10 years back? I can't remember, but I'm sure that GM rebadged some Isuzu product for US sales. Much like they rebadged Toyota Corollas as Novas (that wasn't a

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