Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! The results of the first ever worldwide survey of raw format users goes online this week - and the vast majority of them express deep concern about the lack of open standards. http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=326410 This is very interesting article. *Without desire to

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 27, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, it's an important issue, and the survey, regardless of the bias, may/could be a starting point for deeper and more valid discussions, as well as a possible impetus

Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread David Savage
On 4/28/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The keeping quality of inkjet prints depends upon both the ink type and the mating of paper and ink, as well as the archival qualities of the paper itself. I'm not sure what you mean by reticulation ... What I see in my older dye-based

Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:08 PM, David Savage wrote: Reticulation, like on film, the surface looks like a cracked dried lake bed. I've seen it on some of my old inkjet prints too. Ah, ok. Sounds like a poor mating of ink and paper surface. I haven't seen that particular deterioration on any

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I just reread your comments Kevin. I can't get into all the legal fluff you're tossing about as I've never read the agreements you've mentioned. However, you seem to have a misunderstanding about DNG. One doesn't convert ~from~ DNG to PEF and other raw formats. Rather, one converts ~to~ DNG

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:07:55 +0200 schreef P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: About $2.99 for regular. Quickly approaching €1,50/l (which is about $7,- per gallon). Glad I ride a bicycle to work :o) I haven't seen any fewer cars on the road... No, but people do adapt their style of

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 01:30:26PM +1000, Kevin Waterson wrote: Along with this software manufactures will need to support DNG also. But its an open standard so what is the problem? well, the license from Adobe stipulates.. Adobe may revoke the rights granted above to any individual or

Re: *istDS, DS2, DL and 4GB SD Cards

2006-04-28 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:59:35PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: I agree with Godfrey. However, I wonder if the message from Pentax (as it is now, as opposed to if they said..) really changes anything compared to absence of that information. Essentially, they just confirmed the same lack

Re: exhibits ...

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks Marnie and Boris! Godfrey

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Bob W
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4950680.stm That's $6.52 per US gallon at today's exchange rates. Not that I care much since I don't have a car anymore. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 April 2006 03:22 To:

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4950680.stm That's $6.52 per US gallon at today's exchange rates. Not that I care much since I don't have a car anymore. Yep. It is averaging a quid a litre now. I fill a Discovery tank with 20 gallons of

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. It is averaging a quid a litre now. Almost there as well, on the Continent, and those cleptocrats in Berlin have just changed our legislation so, in spite of being self-employed, I can no longer deduct car cost from my taxable income. Another 1500 euros less

Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread Ryan Lee
Hi Jostein, To help out with your statistics (and to pass some time) I thought I'd take a shot at a response. I've recently reevaluated my storage situation after deciding I'd like to switch to shooting RAW primarily, and realising my 80gb notebook had run out of space. I've had one 40gb

FS: a book

2006-04-28 Thread Juan Buhler
Hi all, As I announced, I'm offering my new book for sale. 8x6.5, hard cover, bound in black cloth with dark grey faux *suede* gloved spine. No Swedish people were hurt in its production. It contains 30 images, 16 of which are the ones in my show. It is a limited edition of 200, signed and

Re: a book

2006-04-28 Thread Dario Bonazza
Hi Juan, What about shipping to Europe? Thanks, Dario - Original Message - From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:55 AM Subject: FS: a book Hi all, As I announced, I'm offering my new book for sale. 8x6.5, hard cover,

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Leon Altoff
Shel, What are the octane ratings for the regular, plus and premium? Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon Shel Belinkoff wrote: Can it be we'll someday look back wistfully on these prices when we remember the good old days? What are the prices in your area?

Re: a book

2006-04-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Hi Juan, What about shipping to Europe? And Israel please. Boris

Re: a book

2006-04-28 Thread Juan Buhler
Because I didn't want to bother with calculations, I left shipping and packaging fixed at $5. So sure, I'll ship to Europe, no problem! I'll just steal some packaging materials from work :) Regards, j On 4/28/06, Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Juan, What about shipping to Europe?

Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread David Mann
On Apr 28, 2006, at 5:22 AM, graywolf wrote: And then, the house I had the negatives and prints from my serious photography period stored at burned down. With digital media it is easy to have copies in two or more locations. Yes, one set of my DVD backups is stored offsite for this very

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread David Mann
NZ$1.70 a litre for 91. It seems to go up on a weekly basis now, but being predominantly pedal-powered I find it difficult to care. - Dave On Apr 28, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Can it be we'll someday look back wistfully on these prices when we remember the good old days?

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread David Mann
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Cotty wrote: Our family car, a 12 year old Rangey with a 2.5 litre diesel engine fills the same BUT that travels far less and so we fill it once every 2 or 3 weeks. It may be more polluting than a small car, but it is recycling parts used previously on other

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread David Mann
On Apr 28, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote: When I purchased my first car in 1978 petrol went from 0.10/ltr to 0.13/ltr I was earning AUD$58.00 per week so it was a devastating blow. I just realised that gas stations still show fuel prices in cents. Do they not trust their

Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread Cotty
Negs in binders. Digital camera originals on two separate hard drives and DVD. I'm leaning towards hard drive storage in the future. I increasingly find DVDs are antiquated and cumbersome technology. I print about 1 % of my work for reasons of cost and space. I shoot about 6000 frames a year.

Re: a book

2006-04-28 Thread Dario Bonazza
Just ordered. Thanks Juan. Dario - Original Message - From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: Re: a book Because I didn't want to bother with calculations, I left shipping and packaging fixed at $5. So sure, I'll

Re: Email File Overhead

2006-04-28 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Shel, Thursday, April 27, 2006, 5:44:20 PM, you wrote: SB Hi, SB Sometimes I receive pics as attachments, and I've noticed that the file SB size shown is often larger - sometimes much larger - than the actual size SB of the attachment. Yesterday I was sent a 3.1mb file, with no email SB

no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread mike wilson
since about middle of the evening yesterday - about 12 hours ago. Archive seems to be working, so I know the list is functioning in some way. Is it something I said? mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Carlos Royo
1.07 euros per litre here in Spain (that's about 1.33 USD). Carlos

RE: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Here it seem like the list is speeding up again after a period of low traffic. But a large number of the posts smell gas. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Hi, The average price for yesterday was 1.357 euros per litre (for 95 octane) here in Finland. Diesel 1.044 euros per litre. Antti-Pekka Antti-Pekka Virjonen Computec Oy RD Turku www.computec.fi -Original Message- From: Carlos Royo

Re: FS: a book - shipping clarification

2006-04-28 Thread Juan Buhler
After checking usps.gov, and getting scared a bit about shipping costs, I went ahead and set up two tiers: now international shipping is $10. If you are offended by this, are overseas, and still want to order, please go ahead and select US when asked--I'll still ship to you for $5. Thanks, j On

RE: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Ryan I agree after seeing that you backup to other media too. sorry for the misunderstanding. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Ryan Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:45 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: How do you store your

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
In Norway at my part of the country I pay 1,97USD pr. litre. That's one of the reasons I have an old car using about 0,65l pr. 10km. The pollution from this car is about the same as from a new average car. And with an old car, I'm able to do most repairs as a DIY job using second hand (read

Re: PESO - i

2006-04-28 Thread Gautam Sarup
On 4/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but some of still don't know what it is! Well, we'll just have guess this one. A gorilla? Doesn't seem like a chimp for some reason. Cheers, Gautam

RE: PESO - Cell Phone Building

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
I _think_ I've got the idea behind this photo, something about changes. I can see it is well executed, but is does not provoke much emotion in me. I am not able to tell why. It could be a matter of different references, I'm not a city bloke. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never

Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Stuart Moore
Local for me means the Midlands in the UK and prices here a just starting to touch 1ukp per litre, there are 3.785 US Gallons per litre and the exchange rate gives us 1 UKP = 1.78930 USD thus we have a price of around $6.77 per gallon!! A lot bigger proportion of that money is tax than in the

RE: FS: a book - shipping clarification

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Somebody has done some marketing ;-) http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=18223777 Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original

RE: OT: My book is in

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
I like jokes about Swedes: What does the word faux mean? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
The best price in the Detroit area is now around $2.89/ gallon. When I started driving in 1964, gas was less than 0.30 per gallon in most places. On Apr 28, 2006, at 6:41 AM, Stuart Moore wrote: Local for me means the Midlands in the UK and prices here a just starting to touch 1ukp per litre,

RE: PESO - The Texan

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
About the spots: I thought about bokeh explanation, but I decided I was wrong. This made me wrong ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/4/06, Stuart Moore, discombobulated, unleashed: You might also like to note that any driving large cars especially 4x4s is starting to be treated as if they have the plague on environmental grounds. Engine sizes over 2 litres are considered excessive by most people (and even 2 litres is

OT: the cost of digital storage

2006-04-28 Thread Jostein
Dear all, Thanks to all who contributed to the thread OT: how do you store your precious moments for posterity. Some people defiantly responded with a well-established way of maintaining film archives. My apologies for not stating that I was primarily interested in _digital_ archiving. :-)

RE: exhibits ...

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Count me in among the visitors in spirit. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28.

RE: FS: a book - shipping clarification

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Ups: Be a bit careful of the forum rules about advertising though... I didn't think of it as advertising. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I agree that the proprietary formats are a bad thing for the photographer and photography in general. I'm a big fan of DNG and convert my raw files immediately. I'm a big fan of having an open-raw format, but I have yet to see a way that DNG benefits me. There is no open-source converter,

Re: OT: My book is in

2006-04-28 Thread Doug Franklin
Tim Øsleby wrote: What does the word faux mean? Fake. Not actual. Coffee == Coffee Faux Coffee == that crap you get at work :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ)

Re: OT: the cost of digital storage

2006-04-28 Thread Jostein
I wrote: DVDs ... Cost: 12 USD (the most expensive discs I found) ... Should read: Cost: 12 USD for a 5-pack. Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A natural considering that the survey was conceived and written by the folks manning the desk at OpenRaw.org. I found the survey questions somewhat biased to a conclusion. I agree. I did participate in the survey, but I was quite disappointed in the leading nature of

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote: Paid $2.95/gal this morning, cut it off at $60. That almost filled the truck tank. Motorcycle is in the shop, too. Come on, mechanic... Last year when we went to Wales it cost us about $80.00 every time we filed the tank of out rented Fiat Stylo

OT: Even mobile phones...

2006-04-28 Thread David Savage
...now come with anti shake technology: http://www.sonyericsson.com/product/K800/ (Warning Flash site) May not be news to some, but I found it surprising. Given their relationship with Samsung, maybe Pentax should be the first DSLR manufacturer to build in a phone. Maybe not. Dave S.

Re: FS: a book

2006-04-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Juan Buhler wrote: No Swedish people were hurt in its production. Pity. I rather like kinky stuff like that. ;-)

Re: PESO: Old Stone Wall--repost

2006-04-28 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, everyone! Lots of late returns on this pic. Personally, I prefer the uncropped version to the cropped one I posted subsequently (with cropped in the subject line). Marnie, I confess that I never noticed the blue splotch! Now I can't avoid it. Weird. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread Doug Brewer
The PDML server has landed back on the SpamCop blacklist, and I'm sure others (haven't checked yet). This has been somewhat of a puzzlement to me, because with SpamCop it has to be reported. Since it's a closed list, and the only recipients have to =ask= to get the email, who would report it

Re: PESO: Old Stone Wall--repost

2006-04-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/28/2006 6:14:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, I confess that I never noticed the blue splotch! Now I can't avoid it. Weird. Rick Hehehehehe. Glad to be of help. Marnie ;-)

Re: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread Jostein
Don't think so...:-) Cheers, Jostein Last computer time until Wednesday. - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:55 AM Subject: no messages... since about middle of the evening

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-04-27 19:21, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What are the prices in your area? I just checked a random shell station http://www.shell-tankstelle.de/stationsfinder/station_details_view.asp?site_id=D26818 Diesel 1.164 Truck Diesel 1.159 Benzin 1.364 Super 1.384 V-Power

RE: OT: My book is in

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
There are Swedes on this list: I'm tempted, but no comment from me. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Doug Franklin

Re: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread pnstenquist
BRILLIANT! YOU THE MAN!! Paul (shouting) -- Original message -- From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The PDML server has landed back on the SpamCop blacklist, and I'm sure others (haven't checked yet). This has been somewhat of a puzzlement to me, because

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Eactivist
It seems people want prices. Okay, I said I didn't notice price. That I buy by a set dollar amount. Which I do, and ignore prices. But a friend lately was telling me they had risen, so I did take a look the other day. $3.15 per gallon for regular self-serve the other day at the local station.

Re: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Doug Brewer wrote: My task today is to adjust the bounce procedure to not include the original message, or, failing that, to just eat the offending message and not responding at all. The downside to that, of course, will mean that you must remember to set your PDML

Re: OT: the cost of digital storage

2006-04-28 Thread Christian
Jostein wrote: Many solutions have been suggested, but none have been priced. It would be very interesting to hear how much people have invested in hardware for their backup solution. I was just at the Over Priced Computer Store the other day and saw 300GB SATA drives for $US170 each. 2 of

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's a very short-sighted point of view. Higher fuel prices effect just about every aspect of your life, from the cost of basic foods to home services. Most everything is transported somehow, and the cost of fuel is a major factor in the rising cost of goods, as manufacturers and distributors

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling
The biggest difference in gas prices are due to the state, county and possibly city taxes. John Mullan wrote: take a gander at this page. http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent:

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 28, 2006, at 5:18 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: I agree that the proprietary formats are a bad thing for the photographer and photography in general. I'm a big fan of DNG and convert my raw files immediately. I'm a big fan of having an open-raw format, but I have yet to see a way that

RE: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
A triple hurray for Mr. List. Let us raise our virtual glasses to Mr. List Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Doug Brewer

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Adam Maas
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Life in the Raw That survey was designed specifically to produce the results it got (Note, I participated, giving answers opposed to how the questions led). I've never seen a survey with such leading questions and

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 28, 2006, at 5:18 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote: I agree that the proprietary formats are a bad thing for the photographer and photography in general. I'm a big fan of DNG and convert my raw files immediately. I'm a big fan of having an open-raw format, but I have yet to see a way that

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I've seen predictions of $5-6 US per gallon being being where price starts making a differenced to gas sales, looks like that might be right. Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:07:55 +0200 schreef P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: About $2.99 for regular. Quickly approaching

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty wrote: On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4950680.stm That's $6.52 per US gallon at today's exchange rates. Not that I care much since I don't have a car anymore. Yep. It is averaging a quid a litre now. I fill a Discovery

Re: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling
No, nothing you said, well not exactly... mike wilson wrote: since about middle of the evening yesterday - about 12 hours ago. Archive seems to be working, so I know the list is functioning in some way. Is it something I said? mike - Email

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread mike.wilson
Shel wrote: That's a very short-sighted point of view. Higher fuel prices effect just about every aspect of your life, from the cost of basic foods to home services. Most everything is transported somehow, and the cost of fuel is a major factor in the rising cost of goods, as manufacturers and

Re: OT: My book is in

2006-04-28 Thread P. J. Alling
False, but more with the connotation of being artificial... Tim Øsleby wrote: I like jokes about Swedes: What does the word faux mean? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other

RE: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Anyone using HTML or enriched text, or sending attachments to a mailing list, deserves what they get. Is it not written in the information when people subscribe that the list only accepts text messages and that no attachments are allowed? Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of people who don't

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread David Savage
It used to work that way here to. A few years ago though a law was passed that made the service stations: 1) fix the price. ie no more changing it during the day 2) list their prices for the next day. The other big thing is that the 2 big supermarket chains have got into selling petrol. Now

Off list for a few days, going to photosafari.

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Jostein and I and some real bird freaks are going away to one of the best bird spots in the country for a few days. I'm much exited about this. I just have to share it. It will be great fun and a very good opportunity to pick up some tricks of the trade from experienced bird shooters ;-) The

Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Apr 28, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ah, ok. Sounds like a poor mating of ink and paper surface. That, or the base shrunk and the top coating cracked and bubbled and came off. -Aaron

Re: Off list for a few days, going to photosafari.

2006-04-28 Thread Gonz
Is it warm enough already for birds up there? I thought it was like frozen tundra till June. ;) rg Tim Øsleby wrote: Jostein and I and some real bird freaks are going away to one of the best bird spots in the country for a few days. I'm much exited about this. I just have to share it.

Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread David Savage
It's only happened to prints made on cheap Kodak paper, which in my experience didn't get along too well with Epson's inks. Dave S. On 4/28/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 28, 2006, at 2:12 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ah, ok. Sounds like a poor mating of ink and paper

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
I don't have time for a large debate, I'm going away, but I just have to get this off my chest: And who says we _have_ to transport our daily life goods around the globe? IMO, doing that is plain stupidity. Buy local food slow food. I try to live by that slogan, but it is near impossible. Ok,

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread mike.wilson
If you want to get _really_ worried • New high-octane BP fuel costs £2.42 a litre • Could boost performance by up to 7.5% • £140 to fill up with £11-a-gallon fuel If the prospect of paying £1-a-litre for your fuel has you worried, how about £2.42 instead? That's how much BP is charging

Re: OT: the cost of digital storage

2006-04-28 Thread collin . x . brenemuehl
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.groupware.lotus-notes.admin/browse_frm/thread/01a3e84a5328de20/638351adc8c15387?hl=en#638351adc8c15387

Re: OT: the cost of digital storage

2006-04-28 Thread collin . x . brenemuehl
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.groupware.lotus-notes.admin/browse_frm/thread/01a3e84a5328de20/638351adc8c15387?hl=en#638351adc8c15387

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Mat Maessen
On 4/28/06, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Motorcycle is in the shop, too. Come on, mechanic... I've ridden mine to work every day this week. And there's a reason I'm riding it down to GFM in June... -Mat

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Tom C
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] I fill a Discovery tank with 20 gallons of diesel about once every four days. Twice a week if busy. With the amount of shit it chucks out the back, I grow more concerned for the harm I'm doing to the environment. Fortunately I have a company-supplied fuel card, so

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 2006-04-28 16:34, Tim Øsleby wrote: I don't have time for a large debate, I'm going away, but I just have to get this off my chest: And who says we _have_ to transport our daily life goods around the globe? IMO, doing that is plain stupidity. Buy local food slow food. I try to live by

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Gonz
I've heard that adjusted for inflation, gas is cheaper now than during the 70's. Shel Belinkoff wrote: That's a very short-sighted point of view. Higher fuel prices effect just about every aspect of your life, from the cost of basic foods to home services. Most everything is transported

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Actually, Tim, I agree with you, although in some areas it may not be possible to purchase all, or even most things, that are made locally. Recently, after checking where the food in our markets comes from, I was appalled at the number of items that are produced in China, Argentina, Chile, and

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Tom C
It was about $.40/gallon when I started driving. But, I can remember my Dad always hunting down the cheapest gas, a difference of .269 and .289 a gallon. I remember being hit financially when gas was up to $1.38/gallon during the first Gulf War. Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Tell that to the people living on fixed incomes or on the margins of society. To the students trying to make ends meet while attempting to get an education. To the small business owner who must use his truck or car to drive to the home of clients or to job sites. The price here has risen almost

Re: Life in the Raw

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:01 AM, Adam Maas wrote: That survey was designed specifically to produce the results it got (Note, I participated, giving answers opposed to how the questions led). I've never seen a survey with such leading questions and answers. Pure propoganda from the OpenRAW

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread David Savage
In general I agree with the sentiment of your message Tim. Buy local is my motto. Most of the produce in the local grocery stores is local, meaning grown in Western Australia. But consider this, the state of Western Australia is about 2 500 000 sq km (admittedly most of it is desert) as opposed

RE: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Yep. Money decides, and that's a pity IMO. You should not go away now. Better to stay at home instead of driving around. Did I sat I would go by car? ;-) The truth is that I am, but I _do_ travel a lot by public transport. Anyway. I haven’t time for a debate now, I'm off riding my car ;-)

Re: no messages...

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Good sleuthing, Doug! For similar reasons, one of the other mailing list servers (on which I admin three lists) has always maintained the restriction of Plain Text Only. Any message sent from a subscribed address with a styled text or other attachment is returned to the originator with a

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread David Savage
In general I agree with the sentiment of your message Tim. Buy local is my motto. Most of the produce in the local grocery stores is local, meaning grown in Western Australia. But consider this, the state of Western Australia is about 2 500 000 sq km (admittedly most of it is desert) as opposed

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Gonz
The truth is hard, but its still the truth. Would it change things if gas had kept up with inflation instead of jumping abruptly? Maybe, maybe not. By definition, those people with fixed incomes will not keep up with inflation. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Tell that to the people living on

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread graywolf
Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a necessity not a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect gas usage. Many people I know have reduced their non-mandatory travel quite a lot. However that was last year and much of non-necessary mileage is already gone

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Cotty
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Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Adam Maas
It is if you consider peak pricing. Oil peaked at $98/bbl in the 70's, if you adjust for inflation, vs ~$72 now. Also you need to adjust for the fact that consumption was higher then, per capita (The numbers I've seen indicate that in the US in the 70's, on average gas expenditures were 16% of

Re: OT: How do you store your precious moments for posterity?

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This is one of the arguments for using the manufacturers' recommended OEM papers, of course. Godfrey On Apr 28, 2006, at 7:31 AM, David Savage wrote: It's only happened to prints made on cheap Kodak paper, which in my experience didn't get along too well with Epson's inks. Dave S. On

curious printing issue

2006-04-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I had a weird problem while printing the other day. A couple of the latest BW photos I was printing to an ~11x14 size were coming out with a slight magenta tint on the Epson Enhanced Matte A3 paper. This despite being fully color managed and making dozens of seemingly identical, perfectly

Re: Local Gas Prices

2006-04-28 Thread Adam Maas
Agreed. It's fairly trivial to the economy overall, but really hurts those on low margins. My mother, who's on disability and lives in a small northern city, is being really hurt by gas price increases (the soon-to-occur 12.5% hydro rate hike here in Ontario is going to be even worse) -Adam

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