Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Matthew Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, >> experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and >> textb

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Matthew Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, > experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and > textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must > be right. Yes,

Re: Sigma 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX ASHPHERICAL

2008-11-14 Thread Charles Robinson
On Nov 13, 2008, at 20:45, John Sessoms wrote: I don't think the difference between 18-35 & 20-35 would be that much of a problem. Availability might be more of a problem. I couldn't find the FA 20-35 listed at KEH, B&H, Adorama or on Ebay. KEH does have the Sigma lens. A local shop

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Matthew, Listen to Bill Robb. Lots of us have blocked posts from JC O'Connell. Other, moderated lists have kicked him out for his boorish behavior. He never gives in, right or wrong, and always has to have the last word, IN CAPS!!! Don't wrestle in the mud with pigs. You'll get dirty and they like

Re: FS Friday: a digicam and an image tank

2008-11-14 Thread Stan Halpin
My wife has the Leica D-Lux 3. A very fine camera with the exception that is has no viewfinder. If you or yours want a hold-at-arms-length digicam, this would be a very fine choice. stan On Nov 14, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Amita Guha wrote: I have two auctions on ebay this week. Both items in exce

Re: PESO: Oak canopies

2008-11-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Thanks Frank, Ann, Jack, Dave, and Brian for the feedback. Brian, the light thru the deciduous trees and leaves in Fall is my favorite time of year in North America. It is just a spectacular display, often too short. I can't get enough of it and have lots of samples of it now. Regards, Bob S. On

OT: Christmas is Starting Early

2008-11-14 Thread Walter Hamler
Just have to share this with the group! :-) There is a factory in Northern Minnesota which makes the Tickle Me Elmo toys. The toy laughs when you tickle it under the arms. Well, Lena is hired at The Tickle Me Elmo factory and she reports for her first day promptly at 8:00 AM. The next day at

Re: November PUG is up

2008-11-14 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Dank je Jos, I am glad you liked it ! - Mensaje original De: Jos from Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Enviado: viernes, 14 de noviembre, 2008 17:08:56 Asunto: Re: November PUG is up Thanks Scott, for the work done! All are nice, but the four that work best

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread Gonz
On 11/14/08, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you must > > be right. > > > You must be new here. MARK!!! -- Rhetoric is a poor substitute for action, and we have trusted only to rhetoric. If we are really to be a great nation,

Re: November PUG is up

2008-11-14 Thread Jos from Holland
Thanks Scott, for the work done! All are nice, but the four that work best for me are: --> The little bird by David Brooks --> Red Umbrella by Jaume Lahuerta --> Høst (= Autumn I guess?) by Toralf --> Lake Mathieson and Fox Glacier by Peter McIntosh Thanks all for posting! Greetz Jos S

FS Friday: a digicam and an image tank

2008-11-14 Thread Amita Guha
I have two auctions on ebay this week. Both items in excellent condition. Leica D-Lux 3: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270301668263 Epson P-4000 image tank: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270301676059 Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic

2008-11-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/11/08, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hi folks, > >Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic & band, shot by me a few >months ago: >http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm > >Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. 7, 12, 16. 12 is fab. -- C

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread David Savage
2008/11/15 Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 11/14/08, Matthew Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE >> > PROPERTY. >> > DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAG

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread Scott Loveless
On 11/14/08, Matthew Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE > > PROPERTY. > > DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS > >

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread David Savage
2008/11/14 William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > - Original Message - From: "Matthew Hunt" > Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview > > > >> Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, >> experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and >> textbook

Re: GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic

2008-11-14 Thread Bruce Walker
Dario Bonazza wrote: Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic & band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. Some fine concert pix there. I really like 4, 5, 7, 8 & 13. -bmw -

GESO: Blueswoman Ana Popovic

2008-11-14 Thread Dario Bonazza
Hi folks, Here's a gallery of concert pictures of Ana Popovic & band, shot by me a few months ago: http://www.dariobonazza.com/anae.htm Is there any picture you like? Which ones would you pick? Thanks. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: iBook file system problems

2008-11-14 Thread David J Brooks
Just getting back on the ibook, and read your instructions. Will try this out in just a few momnents. I need to finish my tea. I need strenght for this. Dave On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 13, 2008, at 4:18 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > >>>

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Matthew Hunt" Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview Well, all I have on my side is a couple of degrees in physics, experience teaching optics labs, references to Kodak literature and textbooks. Since you have a full quiver of capital letters, you m

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JC OConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE > PROPERTY. > DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS > NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND

RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread JC OConnell
WRONG- format is the size of the image captured from the lens, changing the format or the size of the print does NOT change the depth of field created by the lens image. PERIOD. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread JC OConnell
B.S. in capitols. DOF is format and print size independent. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 8:06 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested

RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread JC OConnell
P.S. THATS ALL HOGWASH. All you have to do is shoot a portrait with a wide f-stop like F2 and blur out the background and shoot again at F22 with sharp clear background to see the effect of DOF and KNOW that it doesnt matter what print size you use, the print size has nothing to do with DOF, DOF is

RE: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread JC OConnell
WRONG, FORMAT HAS NOTHING TO WITH DOF WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE PROPERTY. DOF IS DETERMINED BY MAGNIFICATION AND F-STOP, FORMAT AND PRINT SIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOF WHICH IS RELATIVE SHARPNESS OF FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COMPARED TO PLANE OF FOCUS. JC O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Matthew Hunt" Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, it depends purely on the magnification ratio and alowable COC. Focal length doesn't matter, nor does subject dist

Re: Stupid iBook

2008-11-14 Thread PN Stenquist
Play all you want. I objected to the attack on Godders, who was, as usual, only trying to help. Paul On Nov 13, 2008, at 11:49 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: On 11/13/08, PN Stenquist, the list moderator, says I can't play anymore: Godders is our Mac problem solver. He's come to my rescue many t

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:26 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, it depends purely on the magnification ratio and alowable COC. > Focal length doesn't matter, nor does subject distance. Your statement is only an approximation, useful for close subject distances. See: http://

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Matthew Hunt" Subject: Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:29 PM, JC OConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In that case, FF and aps format would be the SAME DOF, neither one would have "deeper" dof. And print size is not a factor e

Re: FA 1.4/50mm tested by DPReview

2008-11-14 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:09 PM, JC OConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dof HAS ZILCH to do with format, its all about > magnification which is object size vs image size. > object size vs image size ignores format. > That said, if you are using the same lens > focal length, and same distance of

Re: RE: OT Feedback

2008-11-14 Thread mike wilson
No habla Espanol. > > From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/11/13 Thu PM 08:45:26 GMT > To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" > Subject: RE: OT Feedback > > Que? > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of mike wilson > > Sent: 1

Re: OT: Seeing Red

2008-11-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/11/08, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: >But, all seriousness aside, I was in the camera store today, and there >was a guy who was trying out a Sony video cam that had an adapter to >take Nikon lenses. Or, I guess he already had the camera & adapter and >was trying out various Nikon

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