Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: eckinator Subject: Re: Leica M9 Personally, I pay 2.5% p.a. on the amount I want to receive for any insured item in the event that it becomes unusable for any reason whatsoever, theft, loss, damage, failure, coffee spill etc. no questions asked. I

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Leica M9 Not trying to be argumentative. I just think the condemnation I'm hearing regarding the G11 return is rather unwarranted. He just as easily could have gotten a defective one from the store and would have had to return it.

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Leica M9 On 5/21/2010 12:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Not at Best Buy... That's kind of a horror story to me. To buy something in order to return it and get some money in the process out of thin air, effectively... OMG...

Re: PESO Bokeh baby

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:37 PM Subject: PESO Bokeh baby Found a Lensbaby 3G for Pentax and used the last light for some quick macros:

Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned]

2010-05-21 Thread P. J. Alling
It better contain it's own power supply as well if you're going to mount it on a K1000. The other problem I see is that if the camera has no information on what the lens is doing then in camera SR will have to be switched off or the two systems will tend to over compensate, possibly by quite

Birding with the 18-250

2010-05-21 Thread Larry Colen
The Tamron 18-250 is not an ideal lens for birding, but occasionally it's adequately sharp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626335024/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4625707599/ Though occasionally you can even get in close enough with the 16-50

RE: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]

2010-05-21 Thread John Whittingham
The SR remains off on mine when I use a long lens these days, especially if using a rear converter. I've resorted to fast shutter speeds as SR has been proven to be ineffective on longer lenses and only complicates the issue. John From:

RE: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]

2010-05-21 Thread John Whittingham
Apparently there is a 17-70 2.8/4 OS HSM as well. John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jaume Lahuerta [jlah...@yahoo.com] Sent: 20 May 2010 22:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax!

RE: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Bob W
To bring this back somewhat to on topic (relevent to photography, if not Pentax), many years ago I was told of a local photographer who specialized on food and lifestyle photography. She shopped at the local higher end stores, buying place settings, cutlery, glasswear, linens,

RE: Milton Keynes PDML meet

2010-05-21 Thread Chris Mitchell
Bob W wrote; On June 6, Bob W, Cotty and I are planning to meet in MK and go to Bletchley Park, the HQ of the WW2 Enigma code breaking facility and now a fascinating museum. It includes lots of stuff from the code breaking world, a museum of early computing and many quirky exhibits in

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Northeast Media
My Father had similar experiences in his business, particularly in the shoe department where ladies would purchase fashion shoes before a big local social event, wear them once and return them for a refund. Phil Northeast www.northeastmedia.biz northeastme...@bigpond.com Original Message

OT: wildlife photographer

2010-05-21 Thread Chris Mitchell
I went to a presentation by Chris Weston last night. Some stunning animal images. http://www.chrisweston.uk.com/ He's particularly into conservation, concentrating on photographing endangered species: http://www.animalsontheedge.org/ Excellent, thought provoking stuff. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Peso: Power Boat racing

2010-05-21 Thread phil
V8 powered racing boat making a turn during a race produces plenty of spray: http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/outlawturn.htm K10D Sigma 135-400mm zoom 1/800 @ f13 with shutter speed priority, focal length 320mm, ISO 100 Phil Northeast www.northeastmedia.biz

What a Weekend!

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Now that work has let up, I'd like to share a few thoughts. 1) I'd like to say big thanks for all the kind words about the exhibit and reception etc. I'm glad everyone had a good time and is generally pleased with the gallery. Just a FYI, two colleagues from work went to DANK last Thursday.

Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?

2010-05-21 Thread mike wilson
On 20 May 2010 18:55, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: What can a poor guy do among such a band of both mama- and paparazzos, eh? Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

645D|中判デジタ ル一眼レフカ メラ|PENTAX

2010-05-21 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://www.pentax.jp/japan/imaging/digital/medium/645d/ex.html ^^^ Pentax 645D full resolution JPEG sample images here. Amazing DOF even at 90mm focal length. That what makes it worthy camera compared to APS-C bodies but I'm returning to my APS-C body. It's flower festival opening in my town, so

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Dayton Having followed this thread, and being a father of 4, I have to say this would be a poor way to teach my children to behave. What goes around comes around - teach them to abuse the system and where will they be in the future. Seems to smack of the entitlement attitude so

Re: OT - Turn reply into a new thread using Gmail

2010-05-21 Thread mike wilson
On 20 May 2010 20:19, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: 1.   Click Reply. 2.   Copy the contents. 3.   Discard the message. You'll be returned to the thread. 4.   Hover the pointer over Pentax-Discuss at the top of any PDML message and a box will pop up. 5.   Click on Email and

RE: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-21 Thread John Coyle
Whoops - should have checked the map, since it's a long time since I was last in Paris! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 2:51 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: OT:

Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply: phase II - webmail

2010-05-21 Thread mike wilson
Just to see if it works. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO Bokeh baby

2010-05-21 Thread eckinator
Tilt baby, tilt. Very nice indeed. Creamy, too =) Cheers Ecke 2010/5/20 Toine to...@repiuk.nl: Found a Lensbaby 3G for Pentax and used the last light for some quick macros: http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/133-bokeh-baby I think I'm in love with my new baby :) Toine --

RE: Milton Keynes PDML meet

2010-05-21 Thread Bob W
On June 6, Bob W, Cotty and I are planning to meet in MK and go to Bletchley Park, the HQ of the WW2 Enigma code breaking facility and now a fascinating museum. It includes lots of stuff from the code breaking world, a museum of early computing and many quirky exhibits in

Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2010-05-21 Thread mike wilson
On 20 May 2010 17:51, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I think there may be a communication problem here.  By .. that does this ... I thought you meant the reply command was generating the cross-reference headers (In-Reply-To: and References:), not that your mail interface was always

Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply

2010-05-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Without them I'd be off the list. I just don't have time enough to keep up otherwise. I just don't understand this argument. The interface of a digest is roughly the same as using less $MAIL to read the list. I

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread paul stenquist
On May 21, 2010, at 1:57 AM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Leica M9 On 5/21/2010 12:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Not at Best Buy... That's kind of a horror story to me. To buy something in order to return it and get some money in

Re: PESO Bokeh baby

2010-05-21 Thread paul stenquist
What Bruce said. Beautiful. Paul On May 21, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Wow, second image is very nice indeed. Seems this lens can produce some very special work. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, May 20, 2010, 1:37:30 PM, you wrote: T Found a Lensbaby 3G for Pentax

Re: What a Weekend!

2010-05-21 Thread paul stenquist
Nice story. Thanks for sharing. Wish I could have been there. Paul On May 21, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Now that work has let up, I'd like to share a few thoughts. 1) I'd like to say big thanks for all the kind words about the exhibit and reception etc. I'm glad everyone

Re: PESO: Killdeer

2010-05-21 Thread Toine
Great capture, framing and pose. You certainly have a very good copy of the 55-300. Toine On 19 May 2010 16:59, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504

Re: PESO: Killdeer

2010-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Toine! Jack --- On Fri, 5/21/10, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote: From: Toine to...@repiuk.nl Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 4:49 AM Great capture, framing and pose. You certainly have a very good copy of the 55-300.

Re: Birding with the 18-250

2010-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Very crisp work, Larry! Wondering about the zoom settings on the 18~250. Well done 16~50 shot. Jack --- On Thu, 5/20/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Birding with the 18-250 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, May 20,

Re: Birding with the 18-250

2010-05-21 Thread eckinator
Nice =) Did you use a remote for the 16-50 shot? And is the DA* pigeon poo proof? Cheers Ecke 2010/5/21 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: The Tamron 18-250 is not an ideal lens for birding, but occasionally it's adequately sharp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4626335024/

Re: Peso: Power Boat racing

2010-05-21 Thread eckinator
This is sports. It cannot have been taken with a Pentax let alone a K10D. Liar. I hate you =) Cheers Ecke 2010/5/21 p...@philnortheast.com: V8 powered racing boat making a turn during a race produces plenty of spray: http://philnortheast.com/aviewfinderdarkly/general/potw/outlawturn.htm

Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread eckinator
Bill can you explain this, please - I just don't seem to catch your reference? TIA Ecke How about the ones who buy two single device boxes, take the side plates off so as to make a two gang box and then bring the side plates back for a full refund? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: [freedoms_cry_litigators] Bloglines - Penn. activist facing 8 years in prison after videotaping officers outside courthouse

2010-05-21 Thread eckinator
Horrible story. Now if you could put the link to donate back into the message, perhaps a few people here might cough up a few bucks for his defense =) Ecke 2010/5/21 27...@comcast.net: Look what's happening now ... - Forwarded Message - From: dqu...@thegrid.net To: freedoms cry

Re: PESO Bokeh baby

2010-05-21 Thread Toine
Thanks everyone. I will give this little lens some workout in the next days. A very funny lens. Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: K7 first thoughts

2010-05-21 Thread Adam Maas
Paul, Unlike you, a small majority of the digital work I shoot is in very dim light. I've shot more frames on the K-x at ISO 1600 and up than below since I tend to shoot film in better light. I'd like the other advantages of the K-7 (accurate exposure, sealing, deep buffer) but I need that high

Re: PESO: Killdeer

2010-05-21 Thread eckinator
Great capture Jack, delightful image =) Cheers Ecke 2010/5/19 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple days ago and shot this: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=504 Comments immensely welcome. Jack K20, da55~...@300(what

Re: What a Weekend!

2010-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
What a nice report, Christine. Didn't know there was now a Russian Tea Room in Chicago . Wish I'd chatted up Darrell more, too. And met your parents -- though maybe I did - things were blurry that night and I dont even drink. Hugs, ann Christine Aguila wrote: Now that work has let up,

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
John Coyle wrote: Whoops - should have checked the map, since it's a long time since I was last in Paris! John in Brisbane Yah gotta watch your Buttes in Paris ann in NY -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent:

Re: PESO: Killdeer

2010-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Generous comments, Ecke. Thanks! Jack --- On Fri, 5/21/10, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 6:19 AM Great capture Jack, delightful image =) Cheers

Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply

2010-05-21 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Matthew Hunt On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:12 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: It's because I'm coming through the digests, and it says not to reply to: Re: Contents of PDML digest... By the

Re: What a Weekend!

2010-05-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine, Wow, I missed Darrel entirely! Tell him Sorry. I enjoyed meeting your Mom, Dad, sister, and sister-in-law. It was a fun weekend. I have really enjoyed seeing people's pictures. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: Now that

Re: What a Weekend!

2010-05-21 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks Christine, very nice read! --Sasha On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, Wow, I missed Darrel entirely!  Tell him Sorry. I enjoyed meeting your Mom, Dad, sister, and sister-in-law. It was a fun weekend. I have really enjoyed seeing

Re: Peso: Power Boat racing

2010-05-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Nice timing! Very cool boat and you have caught it a just the right moment. My V8 powered boat won't do that... :) -- Bruce Friday, May 21, 2010, 12:20:34 AM, you wrote: ppc V8 powered racing boat making a turn during a race produces plenty of spray: ppc

VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely not

2010-05-21 Thread Bob W
Drivers in the UK are generally fairly considerate towards cyclists. Not as good as the French, but not bad. And the BBC is normally fairly even-handed in its treatment of most subjects. But have a look at this video for an extreme anti-bike bias. It beggars belief:

Re: Solid State Hard Drives

2010-05-21 Thread Gasha
I'm using Asus EEE 701 (oldest) 4Gb SSD model for more than 2 years. Startup time is impressive - no need to suspend. Just power off and then power on :) It is running Linux. You can drop it with no fear (i did at least 2 times) Writes are not rocket fast (about the same 25-30mb/sec), but seek

Re: What a Weekend!

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Christine, Wow, I missed Darrel entirely! Tell him Sorry. Understandable, he doesn't really stand out in a crowd :-). cheers, christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Now how did this happen?

2010-05-21 Thread DagT
Den 21. mai 2010 kl. 00.09 skrev Bruce Walker: DagT wrote: I googled my name and found this (see the last page): http://www.viewfinders.be/Events/archives/april2010.pdf Anyone we know from PDML in that club? DagT http://www.thrane.name Perhaps they just have really good taste? :) -bmw

Re: since my blog is such a resounding success...

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, looks like you're off to a great start! I like both pictures. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: OT: since my blog is such a resounding success...

Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely not

2010-05-21 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 04:02:08PM +0100, Bob W wrote: Drivers in the UK are generally fairly considerate towards cyclists. Not as good as the French, but not bad. And the BBC is normally fairly even-handed in its treatment of most subjects. But have a look at this video for an extreme

Re: Rome and Lisbon

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Stig: I like both pictures very much. I prefer the color rendering in Lisbon--it's lovely. I like the nun, but not so keen on the color rendering. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: SV Hovland p...@heime.org To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:27 PM

Re: Rare photo of Eggleston with his young son

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:01 AM Subject: Rare photo of Eggleston with his young son Or at least that's what I imagine they would look like:

Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: Re: OT: Spaghetti Sauce John Coyle wrote: Whoops - should have checked the map, since it's a long time since I was last in Paris!

Re: PEOW: Mallard Youngun's

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
What Dan said! Boy, the little guy is a cutie! Good one, Jay! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: Re: PEOW: Mallard Youngun's Wow! I love

Re: Now how did this happen?

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: DagT li...@thrane.name To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Now how did this happen? Den 21. mai 2010 kl. 00.09 skrev Bruce Walker: DagT wrote: I googled my name and found this (see the last page):

Re: Milton Keynes PDML meet

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 4:12 AM Subject: RE: Milton Keynes PDML meet On June 6, Bob W, Cotty and I are planning to meet in MK and go to Bletchley Park, the HQ of the WW2 Enigma

Re: Bird watcher Maritimtim

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
That's nice, Tim. Hope you had a nice birthday! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 2:32 PM Subject: PESO: Bird watcher Maritimtim Since so many at the list have been

Re: Killdeer

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
What John said. The bird's got good attitude. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:50 PM Subject: PESO: Killdeer From: Jack Davis Circled the local state managed wildlife area a couple

Re: PESO - Aere Favete

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 6:41 AM Subject: PESO - Aere Favete Hi all, I don't think this is a masterpiece, just a fun picture with the interesting Samyang 8mm fisheye lens

Re: peso Death Defying

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Good one, Larry. I see Doug there! cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:37 PM Subject: peso Death Defying http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4608248172/ -- Larry

Re: PESO - New Toy Truck

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Frank. I also like the sailing one. And you had a few lake shots which were nice too.Your new digs sound nice. And I take it you're back with your girl friend? Did I get that right? Hope the new place works out. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From:

Re: peso - strolling

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Love it, Sasha! That's great! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 1:57 AM Subject: peso - strolling http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4609700698/ cc are very welcome.

Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
Oh, that's funny! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:35 PM Subject: PESO - What's Jostein doing? (He's the one with his back to the camera) Another one

Re: What a Weekend!

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Wish I could have been there. Not to worry, Paul. The next party's at your house, remember? Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

RE: Milton Keynes PDML meet

2010-05-21 Thread Bob W
in the surviving WW2 huts on the site. http://www.bletchleypark.org.uk/content/visit/whattosee.rhtm Any other UK PDMLers (or anyone from further afield of course) fancy coming? I wish I could, but I did the next best thing. I called in a favor with my great aunt who

Re: Killdeer

2010-05-21 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, I think he was actually smiling and worked very well with me. ;-) Thanks, Christine! Jack --- On Fri, 5/21/10, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Killdeer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, May

Re: Milton Keynes PDML meet

2010-05-21 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com I'm going hill walking next weekend. Guess I'd better wear a hat. Yea, and watch out for those mountain-bike cyclists--I've heard they are really anti-pedestrian. I saw some video on YouTube a while back. Shocking. Cheers,

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Leica M9 And compared to the blatant dishonesty I witnessed, returning a camera that stopped working and not volunteering that it stopped working after getting splashed doesn't really rate. So it's OK to beat your wife as

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Leica M9 For example, to dress several people for a television commercial, the wardrobe consultant might bring thirty different outfits to a review session -- all with pricetags hanging. Three will be chosen, the rest

Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: eckinator Subject: Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9 Bill can you explain this, please - I just don't seem to catch your reference? In North America, a device box is something that a wall mounted switch (a light switch for example) would

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb From: Boris Liberman On 5/21/2010 12:32 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Not at Best Buy... That's kind of a horror story to me. To buy something in order to return it and get some money in the process out of thin air, effectively... OMG... *sigH* To bring this back

Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply

2010-05-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Matthew Hunt On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Without them I'd be off the list. I just don't have time enough to keep up otherwise. I just don't understand this argument. The interface of a digest is roughly the same as using less $MAIL to

Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: eckinator Bill can you explain this, please - I just don't seem to catch your reference? TIA Ecke How about the ones who buy two single device boxes, take the side plates off so as to make a two gang box and then bring the side plates back for a full refund? Yeah, I'll second that.

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Tom C
Bruce, The question in my mind became in this instance: Did spilling a single drink on the camera make the owner at fault for the subsequent failure of the object? My wife has a G9 and I have a G10, the predecessors to the G11. Knowing their build quality and that I use the G10 in wet and

RE: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Bob W
And compared to the blatant dishonesty I witnessed, returning a camera that stopped working and not volunteering that it stopped working after getting splashed doesn't really rate. So it's OK to beat your wife as long as the bruises aren't visible? Burqa and sunglasses - that

Re: TO - Turn thread into a new gmail using reply

2010-05-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:09 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Perhaps it's because it's easier for me to tell from the message if I *AM* interested in it, and because I can't tell that from just the subject line or who the sender is. But mail readers don't force you to make that

Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not

2010-05-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Christian Skofteland It's Bike to work Week in the US (Bike to work day was today). The Washington Post had an article about the conflicts between cars and bikes that was slanted against bikes. The writer kept going back to the bikers blowing through red lights and stop signs argument but

Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Returning defective goods : was RE: Leica M9 I understand what the single gang boxes are and about doubling to make a two gang box (although why not just buy a two gang box?), but I don't understand how you get a refund - or

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread P N Stenquist
On May 21, 2010, at 12:34 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: Leica M9 For example, to dress several people for a television commercial, the wardrobe consultant might bring thirty different outfits to a review session -- all with

Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not From: Christian Skofteland It's Bike to work Week in the US (Bike to work day was today). The Washington Post had an article about the conflicts between cars and bikes

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: Leica M9 For example, to dress several people for a television commercial, the wardrobe consultant might bring thirty different outfits to a review session -- all with pricetags hanging. Three will be chosen, the rest

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread P. J. Alling
On 5/21/2010 12:33 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: John Sessoms Subject: Re: Leica M9 And compared to the blatant dishonesty I witnessed, returning a camera that stopped working and not volunteering that it stopped working after getting splashed doesn't really

Re: K7 first thoughts

2010-05-21 Thread David J Brooks
Same thoughts in this camp re the K10 and exposure and AF. The shutter noise is not a concern as I do most of my nature photos next to a railway shunting yard. Thus i am glad to hear the good review from you, and its making the K-7/D300s decision painfully hard, again. How do you find the

Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not

2010-05-21 Thread Larry Colen
On 5/21/2010 10:47 AM, William Robb wrote: I don't know what the bike laws are in your part of the world, but here a bicycle is considered to be a motor vehicle, and as such is required to be operated in accordance with local laws. Same here. We have such a huge problem here with cyclists

Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not

2010-05-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Larry Colen Subject: Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not The problem is that often times the safest thing to do on a bicycle is not to come to a complete stop, but to slow down enough to check for traffic, and come to a

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Tom C
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:02 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm reading from what you are saying, in general terms, is that it is OK to try to decieve to one's advantage in business; and that it is wrong to get caught, since it is possible that at some point one might actually

Re: VeryOT: no anti-bike bias here at all, oh no, absolutely, not

2010-05-21 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:38 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Christian Skofteland It's Bike to work Week in the US (Bike to work day was today). The Washington Post had an article about the conflicts between cars and bikes that was slanted against bikes.  The writer kept

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
Everything I read indicates justification for that which you inherently know is wrong - doesn't make it right, just allows you to go with the flow so you can take advantage as the next guy. I'm saying this is part of what is wrong with our society - instead of teaching morals and values we end up

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread John Francis
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 02:13:15PM -0400, Tom C wrote: He said he would have told what happened, if he was asked. The statement he made was honest . . . I disagree. The statement was technically truthful, but the intent was to deceive. That's not honest (or honourable) in my book. --

Re: K7 first thoughts

2010-05-21 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 21, 2010, at 12:52, David J Brooks wrote: Same thoughts in this camp re the K10 and exposure and AF. The shutter noise is not a concern as I do most of my nature photos next to a railway shunting yard. Thus i am glad to hear the good review from you, and its making the K-7/D300s

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Tom C
Fine Bruce... don't start out though believing the system itself is noble. You can read it as justification if you want to. I read it as an accident occurred and the camera should not have stopped working. Tom C. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

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2010-05-21 Thread Larry Colen
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Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Bruce Dayton
I don't believe the system is noble - it is just responding to the human element. If we don't teach and strive for nobility, what do we become? I would have a real hard time taking my 13 year old son with me to return something in those circumstances because I know darn well what I would be

Re: Sigma OS available for Pentax! [Scanned]

2010-05-21 Thread Thibouille
No, what it needs is PowerZoom electrical contacts. It should work fine on MZ/Z serie and as a consequence, would NOT work on a K1000 (neither OS nor aperture selection problem). On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2010 11:56, Doug Franklin

Re: K7 first thoughts

2010-05-21 Thread Thibouille
I'll confirm that, I do not use flash much, but K10D was excessively sensible to reflective surfaces when using the flash. The K-7 is not so. I tried a shot (integrated flash) straight into a mirror, the shot could be more or less usable. Same with K10D would have been overexposed by a couple tens

Re: PESO - What's Jostein doing?

2010-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: (He's the one with his back to the camera) Another one taken by Karin on her Optio S50. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PDML/IMGP1260.jpg Perhaps a Norwegian take on the Brazwellian Moistening Technique? :-)

Re: PESO - Yeller Feller

2010-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: As already noted its an American Goldfinch, also called a Wild Canary - Carduelis tristis. The one you captured is a male. this site may be of help to you http://www.allaboutbirds.org/NetCommunity/Page.aspx?pid=1189

Re: PESO - Yeller Feller

2010-05-21 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:09 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: American Goldfinch, eh?  I guess they must have flown across Lake Ontario from Rochester, then... On a related note, we have a bunch of your geese on the lawn. You can have them back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Leica M9

2010-05-21 Thread Tom C
I'm with you on this. The difference I have would be mainly this. If the product was defective and should have held up under said conditions, then I believe as a consumer it's fair to receive a brand new replacement camera immediately as opposed to sending it in for a warranty repair (the result

Re: PESO - Yeller Feller

2010-05-21 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On a related note, we have a bunch of your geese on the lawn.  You can have them back. As long as you keep the poop. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

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