Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 22, 2009, at 16:46 , Bruce Dayton wrote: FWIW, I am quite astigmatic - I wear corrective contacts and I have no trouble at all focusing on stock *istD, K10D and K20D screens - do it all the time. Maybe with glasses any movement of the lens pushing against the finder could cause a

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Luiz Felipe
EVF with a mirror camera? Lose the pentaprism and keep the mirror? Lose the prism and mirror but keep the camera otherwise the same?? The moment I think of EVF I also think of a mirror-less camera, with a distance from lens mount to sensor as reduced as possible, with new lenses to exploit

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:48, Graydon wrote: I would shed no tears for the lack of a pop-up flash myself. As someone who frequently uses the wireless function to fire two external flashes using the pop-up flash, I

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:14:41AM -0300, Luiz Felipe scripsit: EVF with a mirror camera? Lose the pentaprism and keep the mirror? Lose the prism and mirror but keep the camera otherwise the same?? Keep the direct optical path to the viewfinder; lose the moving mirror and shutter. Ideally,

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 23, 2009, at 9:00, Graydon wrote: I'm not expecting a revolution either, but, Hoya needs one, and Mike Johnson deferred his camera #2 recommendation today; This is awkward, but I'm going to have to hold off with #2 until about this time next month. Still collecting data. What can I

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Graydon wrote: You know of any other plausibly-better-than-A mid-level 4/3 or APS-C DSLR of the brand of your choice -- which is recommendation #3 -- that's going to be announced in a month? I'm certainly not as well-plugged into the rumour mill as I could be. Not announced in a month, but

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:38:39AM -0500, Charles Robinson scripsit: On Apr 23, 2009, at 9:00, Graydon wrote: I'm not expecting a revolution either, but, Hoya needs one, and Mike Johnson deferred his camera #2 recommendation today; This is awkward, but I'm going to have to hold off with #2

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:49:40AM -0400, Mark Roberts scripsit: Graydon wrote: You know of any other plausibly-better-than-A mid-level 4/3 or APS-C DSLR of the brand of your choice -- which is recommendation #3 -- that's going to be announced in a month? I'm certainly not as well-plugged

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:14:41AM -0300, Luiz Felipe scripsit: EVF with a mirror camera? Lose the pentaprism and keep the mirror? Lose  the prism and mirror but keep the camera otherwise the same?? Keep the direct optical

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:20:23AM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:14:41AM -0300, Luiz Felipe scripsit: EVF with a mirror camera? Lose the pentaprism and keep the mirror? Lose  the prism and mirror but

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:20:23AM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:14:41AM -0300, Luiz Felipe scripsit: EVF with a mirror camera? Lose

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Miserere
I'm trying to figure out if we're still talking about the new camera or if it's about AF vs MF and matte vs split-prism. In any case, and seeing as you all asked, I would like a matte screen with a central micro-prism--no split prism for me, thank you. Basically, I'd like an SA-23 from the LX

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to figure out if we're still talking about the new camera or if it's about AF vs MF and matte vs split-prism. snip Hey, this is PDML. We could be talking about all of those things at once. Or none of those things.

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:36:51PM -0400, Graydon wrote: With the shipped matte screen of the K20D, I saw the image as sharp when it (from the camera point of view) was not; it looks like if the plane of focus was 5cm wide, I'd see the image as sharp over between 20cm and 50cm (depending on

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:39:16PM -0700, John Celio wrote: Here's one of the macro photos: http://www.neovenator.com/2009/04/pixel-therapy.html Shot with the K10D, Pentax Helicoid extension tube (fully extended), three vivitar extension tubes (can't remember the sizes), Pentax Macro

RE: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread JC OConnell
I recently acquired the SMC Pentax Dental Closeup attachment lenses for use with their K/M 100mm/4.0 macro lenses. The one attachment lens that goes greater than 1:1 on the stock macro lens is great for shots like this. Ill have to take and post some sample photos once my server problem gets

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Luiz Felipe
...but is it a full frame gasket??? :-) LF Larry Colen escreveu: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:36:51PM -0400, Graydon wrote: With the shipped matte screen of the K20D, I saw the image as sharp when it (from the camera point of view) was not; it looks like if the plane of focus was 5cm wide, I'd

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread Luiz Felipe
I remember reading at the page something about North Dakota... now that's some extension... LF Larry Colen escreveu: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:39:16PM -0700, John Celio wrote: Here's one of the macro photos: http://www.neovenator.com/2009/04/pixel-therapy.html Shot with the K10D, Pentax

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Luiz Felipe Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. ...but is it a full frame gasket??? :-) It's a simulated gasket. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Thibouille
http://www.penta-club.ru/forum/uploads/post-1970-1240400101_thumb.jpg Really doubt this is fake. This also confirms current rumours. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. http://www.penta-club.ru/forum/uploads/post-1970-1240400101_thumb.jpg Really doubt this is fake. This also confirms current rumours. Look kids, a real pentaprism William Robb --

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 08:13:45AM -0600, William Robb scripsit: - Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. http://www.penta-club.ru/forum/uploads/post-1970-1240400101_thumb.jpg Really doubt this is fake. This also confirms current

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Jack Davis
penta- is part of the link(?) J --- On Wed, 4/22/09, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: From: Graydon o...@uniserve.com Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 7:23 AM On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Thibouille
http://sturly.com/y7d if you prefer :) On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: penta- is part of the link(?) J --- On Wed, 4/22/09, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: From: Graydon o...@uniserve.com Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. Look kids, a real pentaprism And we kids may detect this how? Trapezoidal silhouette? Front of the viewfinder housing slopes like a 1915 battleship turret? Base of the viewfinder

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/4/09, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: It looks like the front of an LX prism. I'm hoping (presuming this is for real) that it is a higher specified body than the K20D with no pop up flash (which I happen to detest). Do I need to season my hat? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. On 22/4/09, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: It looks like the front of an LX prism. I'm hoping (presuming this is for real) that it is a higher specified body than the K20D with no

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 09:21:52AM -0600, William Robb scripsit: - Original Message - From: Graydon Look kids, a real pentaprism And we kids may detect this how? Trapezoidal silhouette? Front of the viewfinder housing slopes like a 1915 battleship turret? Base of the viewfinder

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:48, Graydon wrote: I would shed no tears for the lack of a pop-up flash myself. As someone who frequently uses the wireless function to fire two external flashes using the pop-up flash, I would miss having the pop- up flash on the camera. -Charles -- Charles

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. The prospect of a nother couple hundred bucks to the Catzeye folks makes me sad, though. Damn. I should have bought the cheaper graphics card. I'd forgotten about that aspect of new

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me, the above phrase is an oxymoron. Give me a nice matte screen. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me, the above phrase is an oxymoron. Give me a nice matte screen. Mind if I ask why? I could not begin to use manual focus successfully with the shipped matte screen of the K20D.

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me, the above phrase is an oxymoron.  Give me a nice matte screen. Mind if I ask why? I could not begin to use

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Bruce Walker
Charles Robinson wrote: On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:48, Graydon wrote: I would shed no tears for the lack of a pop-up flash myself. As someone who frequently uses the wireless function to fire two external flashes using the pop-up flash, I would miss having the pop-up flash on the camera.

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Luiz Felipe
While I do agree they get in the way sometimes, I find a proper (diagonal, not too large) split very useful. Assuming interchangeable screens, my default would be a split, the secondary matte. Assuming no interchangeable, would select the split over the matte - small margin and sad about it.

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me, the above phrase is an oxymoron. Give me a nice matte screen. Mind if

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:58, William Robb wrote: I don't know how the guys using the cheap Canons with their trash viewfinders manage. Point, press button, click, done. If you're not using manual focus, you don't really need much in the way of viewfinders! -Charles -- Charles Robinson

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hear, hear! Back in the pre-AF days, I always had to get a camera with interchangeable screens so I could get a plain matte screen in it. I find the split prism to get in the way. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 9:05:06 AM, you wrote: C Graydon wrote: proper split-prism

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have a friend who uses the lower end Canons. She has told me more than once that she really has to rely on the AF - manual focus isn't a real option - especially in dimmer light. -- Bruce Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 9:58:00 AM, you wrote: WR - Original Message - WR I have a very

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: But a good matte screen intended for manual focus is arguably the penultimate focusing screen. And a microprism is the ultimate. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me, the above phrase is an oxymoron. Give me a nice matte screen. Mind if I ask why? I could not begin to use manual focus successfully with the shipped matte

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: And a microprism is the ultimate. My old Praktica (long since stolen) had a lovely hybrid screen: A split screen centre surrounded by a micro-prism ring. The best of both worlds, in my book. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote: I don't know how the guys using the cheap Canons with their trash viewfinders manage. Superior autofocus? :-) drop and cover! -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:58 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me,

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 22, 2009, at 12:29, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: And a microprism is the ultimate. My old Praktica (long since stolen) had a lovely hybrid screen: A split screen centre surrounded by a micro-prism ring. The best of both

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
Bruce Dayton wrote: I have a friend who uses the lower end Canons. She has told me more than once that she really has to rely on the AF - manual focus isn't a real option - especially in dimmer light. Part of the problem with AF these days and lower-end bodies is the lower-end lenses used

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Dario Bonazza
Rather sexy, isn't it? http://www.penta-club.ru/forum/index.php?act=Attachtype=postid=51169 Dario - Original Message - From: William Robb war...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 5:21 PM Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: One of the more important features in the K20D that pushed me to upgrade from the K100Ds was being able to use the PUF as a flash controller. Up until then I never used the PUF and was considering gluing or taping it down so it wouldn't pop up when I occasionally hit the

RE: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Bob W
Look kids, a real pentaprism And we kids may detect this how? Trapezoidal silhouette? Front of the viewfinder housing slopes like a 1915 battleship turret? Base of the viewfinder housing almost as wide as the inner diameter of the lens mount? Protruding, rather than

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Jack Davis
You, also, expressed my thought very well, Mark. Jack --- On Wed, 4/22/09, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote: From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009,

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Doug Brewer
Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me, the above phrase is an oxymoron. Give me a nice matte screen. Mind if I ask why? Never did like the splitters. Too fiddly and given to blacking out. Give

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. William Robb wrote: I don't know how the guys using the cheap Canons with their trash viewfinders manage. Superior autofocus? :-) drop and cover! Say that on forum-neurotica

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 01:29:18PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: And a microprism is the ultimate. My old Praktica (long since stolen) had a lovely hybrid screen: A split screen centre surrounded by a micro-prism ring.

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: Is that different from what the Katz-eye screens do?  (From the description it sounds like the same thing...) I don't know. Never looked through one. I was merely commenting on generic split screen versus micro-prism versus

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 01:28:22PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me, the above phrase is an oxymoron. Give me a nice matte screen. Mind if I ask why? I could not

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 02:32:07PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: Is that different from what the Katz-eye screens do?  (From the description it sounds like the same thing...) I don't know. Never looked through one. Fair

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Luiz Felipe
Doug, using fast lenes the split is the better option, for me. I really hate when I can't change it for the matte for the long and dark lenses. But 90% of my pics are taken with lenses 5.6 or brighter. LF Doug Brewer escreveu: Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400,

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:31:01PM -0400, Adam Maas scripsit: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:05:06PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: proper split-prism viewfinder For me, the above phrase is an oxymoron.  Give me a

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
My big issue is that I don't want to have to focus first and then compose. Having the focus aid stuck in the middle of the screen requires me to have to point it at the subject (almost never dead center), focus, now shift and compose. With a nice matte, all I have to do is compose and focus at

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
Graydon wrote: Which is certainly a good thing, but _how_? What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane of focus, or similar? Ummm, because the image in the viewfinder looks sharp? Your eye and brain indicate that it's in focus sending a signal

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:  What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane of focus, or similar? On a good matte screen (among the screens I had for my LX was a grid-enscribed matte screen) objects seem to snap

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Doug Brewer
Luiz Felipe wrote: Doug, using fast lenes the split is the better option, for me. I really hate when I can't change it for the matte for the long and dark lenses. But 90% of my pics are taken with lenses 5.6 or brighter. LF sure. Doesn't stop them from being fiddly. I'm a

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:58:00AM -0600, William Robb scripsit: I have a very good matte screen for my Nikon F2 that makes the screens going into modern cameras look like a wet shower curtain. My major problem with focusing now is that the viewfinders are so bloody small. Dim as a burnt

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Jack Davis
With the split screen, I always felt more confident of primary focus. I'd often pick the edge, twig or branch I especially wanted in sharp focus. I've used matte and had it work OK, but never quite with the comfort as when using split screen. Jack --- On Wed, 4/22/09, Doug Brewer

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:15:24PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: Which is certainly a good thing, but _how_? What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane of focus, or similar? Ummm, because the image in the viewfinder looks sharp?

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Toralf Lund
Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 01:29:18PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: And a microprism is the ultimate. My old Praktica (long since stolen) had a lovely hybrid screen: A split screen centre

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:16:38PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:  What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane of focus, or similar? On a good matte screen (among the screens

RE: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread John Celio
Which is certainly a good thing, but _how_? What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane of focus, or similar? Ummm, because the image in the viewfinder looks sharp? Your eye and brain indicate that it's in focus sending a signal to your right

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:15:24PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: Which is certainly a good thing, but _how_? What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane of focus, or similar? Ummm, because the image in the viewfinder

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/4/09, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Your eye and brain indicate that it's in focus sending a signal to your right index finger to trip the shutter. Mark! Nice T-shirt. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/4/09, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm a look-around-the-frame kinda guy Mark. Good pickings in this thread. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

RE: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Bob W
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote:  What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane of focus, or similar? On a good matte screen (among the screens I had for my LX was a grid-enscribed matte screen) objects seem

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Joseph McAllister
Beattie Intenscreens are still around as http://www.display-optics.com/products_35mm-format_pentax.htm but I think they only have old new stock on hand. LX and PZ-1. If we all scream at them they may put out a model for the K10/20/xx model cameras. Eh? On Apr 22, 2009, at 12:23 , Graydon

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Toralf Lund
Christian wrote: Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:15:24PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: Which is certainly a good thing, but _how_? What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane of focus, or similar? Ummm, because the image in

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Margus Männik
Thibouille wrote: http://www.penta-club.ru/forum/uploads/post-1970-1240400101_thumb.jpg Really doubt this is fake. This also confirms current rumours. We all know the diameter of K-bayonet, so I decided to calculate the body size. It's approximately 120-125mm wide - in other words it's the

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Loveday
I would shed no tears for the lack of a pop-up flash myself. As someone who frequently uses the wireless function to fire two external flashes using the pop-up flash, I would miss having the pop- up flash on the camera. Me too. I find it far too useful as a flash controller to buy a

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote: I would shed no tears for the lack of a pop-up flash myself. As someone who frequently uses the wireless function to fire two  external flashes using the pop-up flash, I would miss having the pop- up flash on the

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Luiz Felipe
And I agree with that first part. If the photo is some very close portrait, the movement from placing the focus aid (or the AF target) from the eye to elsewhere (assuming the eye as point of focus) when I re-compose the shot may get me either focus trouble or a waste of time and a perfect

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 22, 2009, at 13:21 , Toralf Lund wrote: Christian wrote: Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:15:24PM -0400, Christian scripsit: Graydon wrote: Which is certainly a good thing, but _how_? What about the matte screen indicates that you're in focus, or the location of the plane

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:33:04PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit: On Apr 22, 2009, at 13:21 , Toralf Lund wrote: I'm also find it hard do choose the appropriate step on on the viewfinder focus setting (on the one body I have where there is actually such a setting.) I think this is

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
Graydon wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 03:33:04PM -0700, Joseph McAllister scripsit: On Apr 22, 2009, at 13:21 , Toralf Lund wrote: I'm also find it hard do choose the appropriate step on on the viewfinder focus setting (on the one body I have where there is actually such a setting.) I

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/4/09, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I have hyperopia, myopia and astigmatism And all that time I thought you were just winking at me. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ --

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: On 22/4/09, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I have hyperopia, myopia and astigmatism And all that time I thought you were just winking at me. Dude, I'm lucky to actually see you... -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Bruce Dayton
FWIW, I am quite astigmatic - I wear corrective contacts and I have no trouble at all focusing on stock *istD, K10D and K20D screens - do it all the time. Maybe with glasses any movement of the lens pushing against the finder could cause a problem? -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, April 22,

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Stan Halpin
Christian - remember, this is Cotty you are responding to. Do you really mean to say I'm lucky to actually see you? Being around Cotty made me appreciate the advantages of being able to remove my (heavily corrected) contact lenses and going blind... (astigmatism, presbyopia, and myopia).

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Christian
Ok, good point. How about I'm lucky to be able to see anything... much less you. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ Stan Halpin wrote: Christian - remember, this is Cotty you are responding to. Do you really mean to say I'm lucky to actually see you? Being around Cotty made

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Stan Halpin
I selected the start of this thread and I then did a sort by Subject. Read the thread. The next message in my mail stash coincidentally was from early December - Subash quoting a Pentax executive as follows: Next year, we are planning to launch some three types, including minor design

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 08:33:46PM -0500, Stan Halpin scripsit: I selected the start of this thread and I then did a sort by Subject. Read the thread. The next message in my mail stash coincidentally was from early December - Subash quoting a Pentax executive as follows: Next year, we are

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. Which is why I, who think the K20D is a comfy compact size with splendid ergonomics, am not wailing about the prospect of a significantly smaller camera. I'm just morally certain they'll

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread George Sinos
I second that. I use the pop up flash in controller only mode for off camera flash. I'd hate to have to buy a accessory to do the same thing. gs On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:48, Graydon wrote: I would shed no tears for the

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:15 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. Which is why I, who think the K20D is a comfy compact size with splendid ergonomics, am not wailing about the prospect

Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR.

2009-04-22 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 08:15:47PM -0600, William Robb scripsit: - Original Message - From: Graydon Subject: Re: 21th may is the day for the new Pentax DSLR. Which is why I, who think the K20D is a comfy compact size with splendid ergonomics, am not wailing about the prospect of a