Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-30 Thread graywolf
Sometimes I wonder if anyone here ever took an accounting course. Let's take a look at the D-Rebel from that viewpoint. It costs a certain amount to develop a digital camera (or any new product). Then you have to figure out at what point you want to recoup that cost. Say you budget it at a

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-30 Thread graywolf
I kind of doubt that Phillips chip ever reached the production level where they sold for the $1000 price. Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Oct 2003 at 15:49, alex wetmore wrote: The last thing that I found said that the sensor in the Pentax *ist D and Nikon

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-30 Thread Mr. William M. Kane
Mpixel price breakthough On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 I think 35mm film's days are really numbered. Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens??? The CCD in a DSLR has about 10x the surface area (23.4mm

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-30 Thread edwin
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Mr. William M. Kane wrote: Perhaps the Rebel doesn't have a quality sensor in it? I think it's a quantity issue, actually. It's the same sensor as the 10D. If nothing else, they are already tooled up to make it. Canon has said, however, that they have made progress in

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-30 Thread Otis Wright
And then there are those who have run and enterprise, and all your internal figuring is useless if you don't price competitively. Forget the theory. Lets look at reality. If your entering a mature market or dynamic new market with lots of aggressive players you may not ever make any money

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-29 Thread Leonard Paris
no place like 127.0.0.1 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:47:08 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 28.10.03 3:19, J. C. O'Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still dont believe that camera has a sensor that cost CANON $700 if thats what your trying to say. Why not? Analog EOS-300V (EOS Rebel Ti) costs about 200$ and it has far more built-in mechanics than its digital sibbling.

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:50:14 +0100 Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 28.10.03 3:19, J. C. O'Connell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still dont believe that camera has a sensor that cost CANON $700 if thats what your trying to say. Why not? Analog EOS-300V (EOS Rebel Ti) costs

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: The last thing that I found said that the sensor in the Pentax *ist D and Nikon D100 cost about $700 each in quantity. Well that's what they'd like you to think, makes the bitter pill more palatable if there is some other entity to blame. I blame the

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Oct 2003 at 15:49, alex wetmore wrote: The last thing that I found said that the sensor in the Pentax *ist D and Nikon D100 cost about $700 each in quantity. Well that's what they'd like you to think, makes the bitter pill more palatable if there

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Oct 2003 at 7:29, Mark Roberts wrote: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Oct 2003 at 15:49, alex wetmore wrote: The last thing that I found said that the sensor in the Pentax *ist D and Nikon D100 cost about $700 each in quantity. Well that's what they'd like you to

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread edwin
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 I think 35mm film's days are really numbered. Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens??? Apples and Oranges. Why does a pro SLR cost so much more than a film

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread Christian
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:47 PM Subject: Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough Apples and Oranges. Why does a pro SLR cost so much more than a film point-and-shoot? The sensor size is the same (35mm

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Oct 2003 at 10:43, Mark Roberts wrote: I was the Components Engineer responsible for optical sensors (as well as discrete semiconductors, crystals, filters, oscillators and several other commodities) at Harris Corp's RF Communications Division at the time I got the $1000.00 per unit

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-28 Thread Robert Gonzalez
: 5 Mpixel price breakthough On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 I think 35mm film's days are really numbered. Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens??? The CCD in a DSLR has about 10x the surface area (23.4mm

5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 I think 35mm film's days are really numbered. Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens??? JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-27 Thread alex wetmore
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 I think 35mm film's days are really numbered. Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens??? The CCD in a DSLR has about 10x the surface area (23.4mm by 15.6mm vs 7.2mm by

RE: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-27 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- From: alex wetmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:49 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens??? Without knowing the features and the specs of the Gatweay camera, as well as its build quality, the quality of the lens, and the resuktant image quality, there's no way

RE: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-27 Thread tom
, 2003 6:49 PM To: pentax discuss Subject: Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I just saw on TV that gateway has a 5Mpixel digital PS for $249.99 I think 35mm film's days are really numbered. Why does a DSLR cost $1250.00 more WITHOUT a lens

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: 5 Mpixel price breakthough That cant be right or CANON couldnt be selling the 6Mpixel rebel digital for 999.99 retail. The Canon sensor is a CMOS, which apparently is much less expensive to produce. It wouldn't surprise me

Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough

2003-10-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Comcast Mail Subject: Re: 5 Mpixel price breakthough Gateway's 5 megapixel model is a rebadged Argus DC3810. The review of this particular model can be found here: http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/argus/dc3810-review/index.shtml While cheap, the camera