John Celio wrote:
Plus-X and D-76, loved Agfa APX-100 but sadly they don't make it anymore...
Not only do they not make it, Agfa has not even been in business since
late 2006. I miss a lot of their products.
Actually, Agfa is alive and well, and I think they may even still be
making
Cotty wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
I'm not sure I like the timbre of your
John Sessoms wrote:
From: John Graves
The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black
white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to
purchase a slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some BW.
Do I whip out my Gossen and open up 3 stops from white?
On 12/3/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Sessoms wrote:
From: John Graves
The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black
white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to purchase a
slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some BW.
In a message dated 12/1/2008 10:05:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yup - With PSE closed, go to your PSE program directory and drill down
to Plug-Ins File Formats. You'll see a Camera Raw.8bi file. Rename
it to something like Camera Raw.8bi.old. Then go to the
Un-diluted HC110 will last at least two years in the original plastic
bottle. Put in a tightly stoppered glass bottle, it will probably last
even longer.
Properly mixed XTOL will last up to a year in a tightly stoppered
glass bottle.
I don't know how long Rodinal will last ... when I was
Eactivist wrote on Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:53:20 -0800
Marnie, do you have the latest version of Camera Raw which will work
with your PSE 5 installed on your computer (I think it is v 4.6)?
It
may be able to deal with your Canon RAW files. Check on Adobe's
website for downloads and
Plus-X and D-76, loved Agfa APX-100 but sadly they don't make it anymore...
Not only do they not make it, Agfa has not even been in business since
late 2006. I miss a lot of their products.
John
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On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plus-X and D-76, loved Agfa APX-100 but sadly they don't make it anymore...
Not only do they not make it, Agfa has not even been in business since
late 2006. I miss a lot of their products.
John
Thankfully AO bought teh
Cotty wrote:
On 1/12/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
I think we should nip this one in the bud, before the
On Nov 30, 2008, at 23:04 , Cotty wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
I'm not sure I like the timbre of your
A little trick to help with the psychology of it is to shoot RAW+JPEG and
have the JPEG settings render the preview in black white on the back of
the screen. It's a little psychological trick to make you think you have
Tri-X in the camera.
Bob
Digital BW is a rendering process.
Meter as
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
I'm not sure I like the timbre of your questions.
Cane we branch out from this
- Original Message -
From: Cotty
Subject: Re: Blank White Metering
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
I'm
On 12/1/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as
you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question
William Robb wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
I'm not sure I like the timbre of your questions.
Cane we branch
John.
In my film days, i would definitly have to open up from what the meter
was reading for winter, snowy BW shots.
With my K10D and most of my Nikon dslr's, either what the camera meter
says is good, or maybe a +0.3 sometimes.
Dave
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:47 PM, John Graves [EMAIL
I should have known better than to axe that question is this group!
John Graves
WA1JG
Joseph McAllister wrote:
On Nov 30, 2008, at 23:04 , Cotty wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain
On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
William Robb wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it
as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
I'm not sure I
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 09:59:32 -0500
PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
William Robb wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it
as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of
On 12/1/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
William Robb wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it
as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That should be as you normally would.
If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the
wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
G
Only a
Rick Womer wrote:
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That should be as you normally would.
If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the
wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:59 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Womer wrote:
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That should be as you normally would.
If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the
wrong tree.
There
In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:48:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black
white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to purchase
a slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some BW.
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message -
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blank White Metering
On 12/1/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
William Robb wrote
PSE6's bw converter, along with its color channel options, works well.
Jack
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blank White Metering
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 9:02 AM
In a message
On 11/30/08, John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black
white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to purchase a
slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some BW.
Do I whip out my Gossen and open up 3 stops
In a message dated 12/1/2008 9:23:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PSE6's bw converter, along with its color channel options, works well.
Jack
Good to know. Probably time for me to upgrade. 5 won't import my new Canon
RAW files. (What I do is use
As though we're knot sick of it already.(?)
Jack
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blank White Metering
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 6:59 AM
On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:43 AM
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lightroom does a nice BW conversion as well. My new camera will shoot BW,
which I suppose is nice,
My D200 does this as well, but i find it gives a pretty flat image, so
i prefer to do it post process.
I too, use the LR program for
From: John Graves
The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black
white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to purchase
a slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some BW.
Do I whip out my Gossen and open up 3 stops from white? Is this
something
Ken Waller wrote:
Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blank White Metering
On 12/1/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
William Robb
Plus-X and D-76, loved Agfa APX-100 but sadly they don't make it anymore...
Norm
John Graves wrote:
The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black
white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to
purchase a slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some
On 12/1/08, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plus-X and D-76, loved Agfa APX-100 but sadly they don't make it anymore...
Norm
If the two of us don't shoot more, they might not make Plus-X anymore.
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New Cumberland, Pennsylvania, USA
Eactivist wrote on Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:27:30 -0800
In a message dated 12/1/2008 9:23:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PSE6's bw converter, along with its color channel options, works
well.
Jack
Good to know. Probably time for me to upgrade. 5 won't
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Blank White Metering
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 6:59 AM
On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
William Robb wrote
In a message dated 12/1/2008 6:30:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie, do you have the latest version of Camera Raw which will work
with your PSE 5 installed on your computer (I think it is v 4.6)? It
may be able to deal with your Canon RAW files. Check on
Yup - With PSE closed, go to your PSE program directory and drill down
to Plug-Ins File Formats. You'll see a Camera Raw.8bi file. Rename
it to something like Camera Raw.8bi.old. Then go to the new Camera Raw
Zip file and extract the new Camera Raw.8bi file to the File Formats
directory.
The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black
white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to purchase
a slightly damp keyboard?)I would like to try some BW.
Do I whip out my Gossen and open up 3 stops from white? Is this
something I can do in Raw
Digital BW is a rendering process.
Meter as normal. Capture in RAW. Process using one of a dozen or three
different methodologies to render BW from your captures.
Currently I use Lightroom 2 and its HSV control panels in the Develop
module to do 99% of my BW rendering work, but PSE and ACR
If you're running Windows you can get a good start by downloading and
installing the BW-Plus plug-in.
http://www.cybia.co.uk/bwplus.htm
-p
John Graves wrote:
The list has done it. I have been looking at all the fantastic Black
white photos and have had trouble with drool. (Anybody want to
Black and white photography doesn't differ from color in exposure
values. Use your cameras metering to obtain a correct exposure as you
normally wood. It's in post processing that you want to convert to BW.
In most applications you can do it with a simple menu selection, and
in some cases
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
Paul
On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:12 AM, PN Stenquist wrote:
Black and white photography doesn't differ from color in exposure
values. Use your cameras metering to obtain a correct
On 1/12/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
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Cotty
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On Nov 30, 2008, at 10:56 PM, Cotty wrote:
That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
G
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That should be as you normally would. If you try to do it as you
normally wood. you'll be barking up the wrong tree.
There is a grain of truth in what you say.
Is this knot true? Who wood question it?
I'm not sure I like the timbre of your questions.
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Cotty
Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 5:56 PM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: Blank White Metering
On 1/12/08, PN Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
That should be as you normally would. If you
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