Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-28 Thread John
On 4/27/2018 16:32, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Now, as far as I understand, "traditional" TIFF viewers would not be able to show any RAW formats: you'd need some sort of additional "decoder"/converter from the RAW format to the bitmap-based format. I've never carefully looked at the TIFF files us

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think that TIFF is actually a RAW format Per se but as it supports a 16 bit per channel version, so there is more data to manipulate than the 8 bits available  per channel in Jpeg.  Most image processing software could deal with a number of different TIFF variants which was why it was a

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 04:32:23PM -0400, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > TIFF is a rather broad format. Strictly speaking it is a container format > that can have images incorporated in a variety of formats, including JPEG. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIFF > This format is described in the TIFF 6.0

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
Someone else will have to comment on this! J Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > > I guess this requires a bit more careful discussion of what TIFF is. > > TIFF is a rather broad format. Strictly speaking it is a container format > that can have im

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
I don't doubt it, but it was a computer geek who advised it. Perhaps a genuine "geek"? J Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > > I have the K-3 set for RAW+JPG with the RAWs set as DNGs and the JPGs sized > for web distribution. With two card slots, the

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Igor PDML-StR
I guess this requires a bit more careful discussion of what TIFF is. TIFF is a rather broad format. Strictly speaking it is a container format that can have images incorporated in a variety of formats, including JPEG. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIFF This format is described in the TIFF 6.0

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Brian Walters
> On 28 April 2018 at 02:57 Jack Davis wrote: > > > Right, John. Also on the more recent > K5 & K3. Some confusion here, I think. The K-5 offers PEF & DNG as the raw options; no TIFF. I can't imagine that the K-3 is different. Cheers Brian > J > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 27, 2

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Paul Sorenson
I have the K-3 set for RAW+JPG with the RAWs set as DNGs and the JPGs sized for web distribution.  With two card slots, the RAWs go to card 1 and the JPGs to card 2, which is an Eye-Fi Mobi.  The Mobi fairly quickly will copy the JPGs to my iPad for quick review (or to show interested bystander

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread John
On 4/27/2018 11:25, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Jack, Your question confused me. What "organizer"? Which TIFF images? I don't think I understand all the aspects of your question, but I hope the following clarifying statements would at least partially answer it. 1. TIFF is not a raw format. So, I d

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Irc! J Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2018, at 11:58 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote: > > > >> On April 27, 2018 8:29:45 AM PDT, Jack Davis wrote: >> My images are now coming up as >> JPEG's and I convert them to TIFF's >> in "Save as ." > > Saving a jpeg as a tiff won't gain you any in

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread lrc
On April 27, 2018 8:29:45 AM PDT, Jack Davis wrote: >My images are now coming up as >JPEG's and I convert them to TIFF's >in "Save as ." > Saving a jpeg as a tiff won't gain you any information, all of the informatin as already been lost in the original conversion from raw to jpeg. You prob

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: >The only thing I would add to Igor's excellent summary of the >various file formats, camera option settings, etc., is to >mention that TIFF was, in fact, available as a RAW format on >the Pentax *ist-D and *ist-DS. I was under the impression that DNG and most other raw format

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
Right, John. Also on the more recent K5 & K3. J Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, John Francis wrote: > > > The only thing I would add to Igor's excellent summary of the > various file formats, camera option settings, etc., is to > mention that TIFF was, in fact, available as

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread John Francis
The only thing I would add to Igor's excellent summary of the various file formats, camera option settings, etc., is to mention that TIFF was, in fact, available as a RAW format on the Pentax *ist-D and *ist-DS. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdm

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks: Igor, Paul and Bill! I have some further questions, but will leave those for later. J Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:25 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Jack, > > Your question confused me. > What "organizer"? Which TIFF images? > > I don't think I understand all the asp

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
My images are now coming up as JPEG's and I convert them to TIFF's in "Save as ." J Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:14 AM, Bill wrote: > >> On 4/27/2018 9:09 AM, Jack Davis wrote: >> Anyone, >> Am not seeing a RAW converter when downloading recent TIFF images from the >> organizer.

DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Jack, Your question confused me. What "organizer"? Which TIFF images? I don't think I understand all the aspects of your question, but I hope the following clarifying statements would at least partially answer it. 1. TIFF is not a raw format. So, I doubt it'd be produced in the camera. Maybe

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
DNG is just a standard way of packaging RAW files. I don’t use Lightroom, but in PhotoShop they’re handled the same way Pentax RAW files are handled. When I click on a RAW DNG file it opens in Adobe Raw Converter, and I tweak it before opening it in Photoshop and saving it as a Tiff and a jpeg.

Re: DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Bill
On 4/27/2018 9:09 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Anyone, Am not seeing a RAW converter when downloading recent TIFF images from the organizer. I was advised to change a new camera setting from RAW to RAW+DNG. I did so. Should I now be seeing a DNG TIFF converter? Thanks J DNG is RAW. -- PDML

DNG V RAW converter?

2018-04-27 Thread Jack Davis
Anyone, Am not seeing a RAW converter when downloading recent TIFF images from the organizer. I was advised to change a new camera setting from RAW to RAW+DNG. I did so. Should I now be seeing a DNG TIFF converter? Thanks J -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net