Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-12-03 Thread P. J. Alling
John Francis wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:02:35PM -0500, PN Stenquist wrote: Editorializing by photo isn't a new concept, but it's ugly journalism. It has nothing to do with facts or positions. It's just an attempt to discredit by virtue of appearances. Only if, as you

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-12-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/3/2008 9:46:15 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Francis wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:02:35PM -0500, PN Stenquist wrote: Editorializing by photo isn't a new concept, but it's ugly journalism. It has nothing to do with facts or

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-12-03 Thread P. J. Alling
You're wrong John, it was done under false pretenses. McCain went there for a cover photograph, an honest image of his physical appearance. If he had know the use his image would have been put to he would never have agreed. This is a form of contract. A lack of agreement means no contract

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-12-01 Thread Derby Chang
Fascinating. I don't really understand what the fuss is about, though. Greenberg's off-the-books grab looks amateurish and B-movie hokey. Not too far away from shining a torch in your face to tell Blair Witch stories as a kid. I'm not a fan of the McCain either, but let's be realistic. How

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-12-01 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:02:35PM -0500, PN Stenquist wrote: Editorializing by photo isn't a new concept, but it's ugly journalism. It has nothing to do with facts or positions. It's just an attempt to discredit by virtue of appearances. Only if, as you apparently do, you assume it will

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-12-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/1/2008 9:27:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only if, as you apparently do, you assume it will always be negative. I'd suggest that editorializing by photo is why you hardly ever see a photograph of President (Franklin) Roosevelt in a wheelchair.

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-12-01 Thread John Sessoms
Greenberg didn't hog-tie McCain and force him to pose. He agreed to do it, and the image submitted for the magazine cover is conventionally flattering. Whether Greenberg is a McCain supporter or not is immaterial. There's quite a few famous photographers shooting fluff puff celebrity

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-12-01 Thread John Sessoms
From: Derby Chang Fascinating. I don't really understand what the fuss is about, though. Greenberg's off-the-books grab looks amateurish and B-movie hokey. Not too far away from shining a torch in your face to tell Blair Witch stories as a kid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87soTsQjf5Y

Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-11-30 Thread Beaker
Hi- On the Media ran a story about Photography Journalistic Ethics this week. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/11/28/05 There is a link to a slide show that illustrates the story. Some might find it interesting. Cheers, Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-11-30 Thread Brendan MacRae
Mike, interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. -Brendan --- Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- On the Media ran a story about Photography Journalistic Ethics this week. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/11/28/05 There is a link to a slide show that illustrates the story

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-11-30 Thread Stan Halpin
for sharing. -Brendan --- Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- On the Media ran a story about Photography Journalistic Ethics this week. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/11/28/05 There is a link to a slide show that illustrates the story. Some might find it interesting. Cheers, Mike

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-11-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the photographer though. The editor certainly bears some responsibility in making his/her choice of what image to use. The point of the story seems to

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-11-30 Thread Beaker
On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the photographer though. The editor certainly bears some responsibility in making his/her choice of what

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-11-30 Thread PN Stenquist
Editorializing by photo isn't a new concept, but it's ugly journalism. It has nothing to do with facts or positions. It's just an attempt to discredit by virtue of appearances. If you study front page photos of politicians that have appeared in the New York Times, for example, you'll see

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-11-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Beaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the photographer though. The editor

Re: Journalistic Ethics and Photography

2008-11-30 Thread Stan Halpin
I guess I just can't get very excited about the McCain photo by Greenberg. It after all wasn't used by the magazine. If she wants to post it on her web site and boast about how she can take pretty crappy portraits, let her. She is over inflating her own worth if she thinks that anyone