On Nov 23, 2006, at 10:25 AM, mike wilson wrote:
I assume digital protocols make it far easier for OEMs to put
little pitfalls in the way of third parties.
Mechanical pitfalls are more subtle to create but harder for third
parties to accommodate since they can vary more on a unit by unit
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:10:53 -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
I already tried it with both studio lights and the AF400T. With a
hotshoe PC adapter, they both trigger just fine. I also hooked up the
AF400T to the Adapter that goes into the hotshoe and plugs into the
flash. I set the flash to TTL and
No.. the sensor is used for TTL.
K10D does only support PTTL, no TTL.
2006/11/23, jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:10:53 -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
I already tried it with both studio lights and the AF400T. With a
hotshoe PC adapter, they both trigger just fine. I also hooked
Right, but anyway it works differently on the K100D, D/DS/DL and K10D
otherwise there wouldn't have been any problem.
It does not change the fact the Sigma is crappily reverse engineering the PTTL.
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From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/11/23 Thu AM 10:38:38 GMT
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Right, but anyway it works differently on the K100D, D/DS/DL and K10D
otherwise there wouldn't have been any problem.
It does
See my earlier post. It's probably not necessary. My flash seems to be
a goner. Probably the flash tube is burned out.
Paul
On Nov 23, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:
Paul Stenquist wrote:
I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade. I'm going to write
to them on Friday.
I'm
The D supports TTL, but not very well. Pentax probably threw in the
towel on TTL.
Paul
On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:47 AM, jim wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:10:53 -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
I already tried it with both studio lights and the AF400T. With a
hotshoe PC adapter, they both trigger just
On Nov 23, 2006, at 6:03 AM, mike wilson wrote:
From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/11/23 Thu AM 10:38:38 GMT
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Subject: Re: AW: K10D and Sigma DG500 Super
Right, but anyway it works differently on the K100D, D/DS/DL and K10D
otherwise
The DS/DS2 reportedly do a much better job with TTL than the D.
-Adam
Paul Stenquist wrote:
The D supports TTL, but not very well. Pentax probably threw in the
towel on TTL.
Paul
On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:47 AM, jim wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:10:53 -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
I already
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I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade. I'm
jim wrote:
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:10:53 -0800, Bruce Dayton wrote:
I already tried it with both studio lights and the AF400T. With a
hotshoe PC adapter, they both trigger just fine. I also hooked up the
AF400T to the Adapter that goes into the hotshoe and plugs into the
flash. I set the
That's been my experience.
Adam Maas wrote:
The DS/DS2 reportedly do a much better job with TTL than the D.
-Adam
Paul Stenquist wrote:
The D supports TTL, but not very well. Pentax probably threw in the
towel on TTL.
Paul
On Nov 23, 2006, at 3:47 AM, jim wrote:
On Wed, 22
Markus Maurer wrote:
does that mean that Pentax changed the flash protocol with the K10D?
It means they've changed *something* about the protocol, but since
they're (obviously) privy to the inner workings of their own protocols
they were able to be sure that it was backwards compatible with
We can't be sure that a Sigma 500 that's been upgraded to K100 specs
won't work on the K10. My flash is obviously broken, and I doubt that
the camera killed it. Seems very unlikely.
Paul
On Nov 23, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Markus Maurer wrote:
does that mean that Pentax
mike wilson wrote:
From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Right, but anyway it works differently on the K100D, D/DS/DL and K10D
otherwise there wouldn't have been any problem.
It does not change the fact the Sigma is crappily reverse engineering
the PTTL.
Crappily? In what way? It can't
How's that done, via a ROM update or socket exchange?
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This fellow's K10D appears to fire the Sigma DG 500:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20991166
But the image looks underexposed on my monitor.
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Markus Maurer wrote:
Mark Roberts
I expect Sigma to have an upgrade available before long.
How's that done, via a ROM update or socket exchange?
greetings
Don't know. I thought of having mine updated for the K100D, but then I
decided to wait to see if Pentax had more surprises in store with
Yes, I'm guessing that it will work just fine. I think my flash tube
is dead.
Paul
On Nov 23, 2006, at 12:48 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote:
This fellow's K10D appears to fire the Sigma DG 500:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20991166
But the image looks underexposed
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Date: 2006/11/23 Thu PM 04:33:00 GMT
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mike wilson wrote:
From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Right, but anyway it works differently on the K100D, D/DS/DL
See the following link:
http://www.dasaga.com/quantum_battery.htm
I got a new battery from them and replaced it myself - cost about $30.
Near the bottom they also sell the charger for about $20.
Thanks.. unfortunately that won't work so well in Oz, and the shipping would
be a tad expensive
My istD seems to expose about this way.
Dave
Quoting Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This fellow's K10D appears to fire the Sigma DG 500:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=20991166
But the image looks underexposed on my monitor.
Joe
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I haven't been able to make my Sigma work with the K10D. I had it
upgraded for the K 100D, which I assumed would make it work with the
new camera. Hoping someone else can try this combo. I'll try it
again, of course, but I'm not optimistic. A call to Sigma may be in
order and perhaps a
Hello Paul,
Sorry to hear that. I can vouch for the AF360FGZ. I had a kid's
party last night that I shot with it and an outdoor family portrait
session today that I used it in HS mode for fill flash. Worked just
as I expected.
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Wednesday, November 22, 2006, 4:25:45 PM, you wrote:
Paul,
Just in case: You may want to check the K10D body with some other
flash with a comparable level of functionality.
I originally had problems with my DS and my Pentax AF-500 FTZ.
It was a deffect of the body, so it was replaced.
I remember somebody else on the list had a deffective body that
Ouch.
Did not want to hear that Paul.
If i keep omne of my istD's as a backup, i don't really want to have
seperate flashes. I carry enough gear as it is, even though i don;t
know what i;m doing 1/2 the time.
:-)
Dave
Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I haven't been able to make
Good point. The only other flash I own (other than studio strobes) is
an AF 400T. But I guess I can try it with that. I have to buy a PC
cable connector for the hot shoe as well. Then I'm going to try it
with my studio lights.
Paul
Paul
On Nov 22, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade. I'm going to write
to them on Friday.
Paul
On Nov 22, 2006, at 8:39 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
Ouch.
Did not want to hear that Paul.
If i keep omne of my istD's as a backup, i don't really want to have
seperate flashes. I carry enough gear as
Paul Stenquist wrote:
I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade.
I expect Sigma was one of the first pre-order customers of the K10D -
specifically for this purpose ;-)
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I already tried it with both studio lights and the AF400T. With a
hotshoe PC adapter, they both trigger just fine. I also hooked up the
AF400T to the Adapter that goes into the hotshoe and plugs into the
flash. I set the flash to TTL and the lens wide open and the flash
fired full power. So,
On Nov 22, 2006, at 10:10 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
So, as advertised, the camera does not support TTL
flash anymore. Only the newer P-TTL. Obviously, the A mode on the
flash worked fine, just like in the old days.
I can live with that. I like the AF400T. It's a powerful flash, and I
have
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I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade. I'm going to write
to them on Friday.
Paul
On Nov 22, 2006, at 8:39 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
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Yeah, I have two of them and the same Quantum Battery II. My only
gripe about the A mode is the lack of aperture choices. I tend to
shoot around ISO 400 and shutter down around 1/60 to bring up the
ambient light in wedding receptions. I'll have to do some playing
around with the setup to see
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I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade. I'm going to write
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Paul
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I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade. I'm going to write
to them on Friday.
Paul
On Nov 22, 2006
. November 2006 04:37
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I'm sure Sigma will offer an upgrade. In regard to the AF 400T, it
reportedly works in auto mode, but not in ttl mode.
Paul
On Nov 22, 2006, at 10:27 PM, Markus Maurer wrote:
Hi Paul
does that mean
Stenquist
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MM I'm sure Sigma will offer an upgrade. In regard to the AF 400T, it
MM reportedly works in auto mode, but not in ttl mode.
MM Paul
MM On Nov 22, 2006, at 10:27 PM
Yeah, I have two of them and the same Quantum Battery II.
Hmm, I've just inherited a Quantum Battery II, but no charger. I was
wondering if anyone here knows much about it? As I understand it, its
nominally a 9V battery (Perhaps actually 8? I think its 4 SLA cells).
I'm curious as to
See the following link:
http://www.dasaga.com/quantum_battery.htm
I got a new battery from them and replaced it myself - cost about $30.
Near the bottom they also sell the charger for about $20.
Mine has been going strong since the replacement about 2 years ago.
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Hi Bruce
thanks, I hoped so.
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The auto modes
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I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade. I'm going to write
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Paul
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Paul Stenquist wrote:
I expect that Sigma will again offer an upgrade. I'm going to write
to them on Friday.
I'm both glad and sad to hear that. Glad that an upgrade might be in
the offing, and sad that it's necessary.
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