Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-12 Thread Herb Chong
i didn't say that. i said that some publications will pay less. Herb - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 09:40 Subject: Re: Long lenses handheld? > Really. Do you think all the great wildl

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-12 Thread Pentxuser
Really. Do you think all the great wildlife shots in outdoor photographer and other magazines are shot in places other than National parks, from blinds around feeders etc... These guys don't just walk around the woods with huge lenses and 800 asa film hoping to find something that will sit still

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-12 Thread Herb Chong
the editorial value of such shots is less, if you submit to a publication that cares about these things. Herb - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 09:15 Subject: Re: Long lenses handheld? > Paul I

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-12 Thread Pentxuser
This is true. But there are many areas Florida to name one, where these birds are easily approched. There are many areas in Ontario where Great Blues are quite approachable and easily photographed with a 300mm. In a message dated 3/11/03 9:29:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Besides, feeders

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-12 Thread Pentxuser
Paul I certainly would grant you that. The hunt is part of the fun. But after years of photographing wildlife I've come to the conclusion that if you want excellent shots of wild animals and birds you really need to find subjects that are not weary of human beings. The best places to find these

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-11 Thread Gregory L. Hansen
Paul Stenquist wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I wouldn't shoot them at the feeder. A properly placed branch above the > > feeder with the right background and you are off to the races... > > > I've done that. It can be nice. But I prefer to find birds in their > natural habitat. The hun

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I wouldn't shoot them at the feeder. A properly placed branch above the > feeder with the right background and you are off to the races... > I've done that. It can be nice. But I prefer to find birds in their natural habitat. The hunt is part of the fun. Paul

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Mar 2003 at 23:42, Ryan K. Brooks wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 3/10/03 11:17:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > >>I'm not sure I follow you here, but it's probably just me. If you want > >>to get an IS lens, certainly Canon are presently the folks with t

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-11 Thread Dr E D F Williams
hor's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:31 AM Subject: Re: Long lenses handheld? > I have found that it's very d

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have found that it's very difficult to shoot birds in the wild with anything less than an 800. Sure, at a backyard bird feeder, you can get closer. But pictures of birds at the feeder get tedious in a hurry. I frequently shoot birds in wooded areas where some of the best shots find them high off

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/10/03 11:17:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure I follow you here, but it's probably just me. If you want to get an IS lens, certainly Canon are presently the folks with the goods. You may be overestimating IS, though, if you think it replac

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man I don't want to go here again but I can't help it. If you want high quality images you have to use a relatively slow speed film with a tripod. In the case of a 1000mm lens — two tripods— one on the camera and one steadying the lens. One question: Why a 1000 mm lens?

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Good luck with that. Ryan "my A*400/2.8 isn't nearly long enough for bird shots" Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really sure about this comment, but it is always better to use a shorter lens and find a way to move in closer than stick a big long lens on and stay far away. Atmospheric haze,

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Pentxuser
Not really sure about this comment, but it is always better to use a shorter lens and find a way to move in closer than stick a big long lens on and stay far away. Atmospheric haze, slower lens, camera shake all conspire against the users of very long lenses. This person wants to shoot birds. Fi

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I love this. "I have no idea what you're trying to do, but I'm going to tell you to do it differently." BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why a 1000 mm lens? Use a 300 or a 400 and work on getting two or three times closer to your subject. Vic

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Peter Alling
Longest lens I use is 600mm, I guess some people can't tell a tongue in cheek answer without a smiley. At 11:27 PM 3/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: Man I don't want to go here again but I can't help it. If you want high quality images you have to use a relatively slow speed film with a tripod. In the

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Pentxuser
In a message dated 3/10/03 11:17:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I'm not sure I follow you here, but it's probably just me. If you want >to get an IS lens, certainly Canon are presently the folks with the goods. > > >You may be overestimating IS, though, if you think it replaces good technique

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nick Zentena wrote: Isn't it > going to take a combination of very fast film and a sunny day to have any > chance to hold such a lens? How about a monopod instead? I regularly handhold a 400mm plus A2X-S converter (800mm equivelant). With iso 800 film and good light, I can shoot at 1/1000. But I

Re: Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Peter Alling
Yes, very fast film and bright sun. You'd be well advised to brace it somehow, a monopod will work fine. At 04:30 PM 3/10/2003 -0500, you wrote: On March 10, 2003 04:04 pm, Gregory L. Hansen wrote: > Doug Brewer said: > > Why on Earth would you hand hold 1000mm? > > > > At 02:30 PM 3/10/03, you w

Long lenses handheld?

2003-03-10 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 10, 2003 04:04 pm, Gregory L. Hansen wrote: > Doug Brewer said: > > Why on Earth would you hand hold 1000mm? > > > > At 02:30 PM 3/10/03, you wrote: > > >I didn't appreciate before I'd tried it how much the image shakes when > > >you're holding 1000mm of telephoto by hand. > > All the usua