Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-09 Thread Charles Robinson
Thanks, PJ - that's what I'll have to do. I'd call the lens condition "Good" (because of the small nick on the front element). Wish me luck - haven't attempted to sell anything on EBay in... probably 10 years at least! On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 9:15 PM, P. J. Alling

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I was thinking you'd do a quick price search and then have a good handle on making a private sale. The lens sells used at KEH for $600 to $700 in VG to EX maybe $550 in Bargain condition. I don't expect a retailer to buy it for that much but $100 is a low ball offer.Like I said, put it

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-08 Thread Bruce Walker
I agree they were really under-valuing that lens. I just did a quick eBay search and the cheapest da* 16-50 on offer was $450 US. The rest averaged around $600 and many were much higher than that. On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > I agree

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-08 Thread John Francis
I'm not so sure. The 16-50 was the first lens that was plagued by the SDM problem, and so there are an awful lot of posts that complain about it. I'd think twice about buying another SDM lens from that generation even though so far (touch wood) my three have shown no problems. On Sun, Jan 08,

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-08 Thread Charles Robinson
I agree about profit and overhead but still think $100 for the 16-50 was off by a couple hundred... On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 08:36 John wrote: > Not surprising. Your expectation is based on what you paid for it new. > > > > They're thinking about how much they can sell it

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Ebay can be your friend. That's what they'll do and get quite the nice profit with those offers. On 1/7/2017 6:16 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: Holy cow. Just got back from the local photo shoppe. I was expecting a low quote for the K5 because the bottom is all scuffed up. I was NOT

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-08 Thread John
Not surprising. Your expectation is based on what you paid for it new. They're thinking about how much they can sell it for, and they're not going to offer more than half that (or less), because they have to cover their overhead and still make a profit. K5 with a kit lens *might* bring in $450

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> On Jan 7, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: > >> On 7 Jan 2017, at 19:00, Steve Cottrell >> > wrote: >> >>> On 7/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> >>> You should buy yourself a Leitz lens. It's a very good

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 7 Jan 2017, at 19:00, Steve Cottrell > wrote: On 7/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: You should buy yourself a Leitz lens. It's a very good investment because afterwards everything else seems cheap. I did look at some a while back.

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Larry Colen
Bill wrote: On 1/7/2017 5:16 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: Holy cow. Just got back from the local photo shoppe. I was expecting a low quote for the K5 because the bottom is all scuffed up. I was NOT expecting a lowball on the 16-50. They offered $180 for the body and $100 for the lens - due to

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Bill
On 1/7/2017 5:16 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: Holy cow. Just got back from the local photo shoppe. I was expecting a low quote for the K5 because the bottom is all scuffed up. I was NOT expecting a lowball on the 16-50. They offered $180 for the body and $100 for the lens - due to the "low

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Charles Robinson
Holy cow. Just got back from the local photo shoppe. I was expecting a low quote for the K5 because the bottom is all scuffed up. I was NOT expecting a lowball on the 16-50. They offered $180 for the body and $100 for the lens - due to the "low resale value of Pentax these days" and a very

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/1/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: >You should buy yourself a Leitz lens. It's a very good investment >because afterwards everything else seems cheap. I did look at some a while back. Is there a good web site listing all available/made? Something like Boz's site? -- Cheers,

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
> >> On Jan 7, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> I'd love to get some more Voigtlander lenses but my god they are pricey. You should buy yourself a Leitz lens. It's a very good investment because afterwards everything else seems cheap. >> >> The 10.5mm

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, that’s a great kit you describe below. Yes, even the video markets it as a great street camera—much less intimidating—or maybe just more discreet—than the all black DSLR. Sure wish I had some extra money, but can’t afford to buy right now, got to save—the bloody Russians are coming! The

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML wrote: >Whenever you see something labelled 'creative' or 'pro', you can be sure it >isn't. First "Mark!" of 2017. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/1/17, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: >Features I love - pull out and swivel/rotate rear LCD that can be close >facing inwards, so no chimping! Beautiful ergonomics even in my big >hands. Does good HD video (I use it professionally for steadicam-type >shots on a 3-axis gimbal

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 7/1/17, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: >That Pen-F is a beautiful camera! Cotty, just out of interest, have you >used any of the Creative Features explained in the videos at the bottom >of this page? I believe it's the last video. Hi Christine, Yes had a play around one day

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
Whenever you see something labelled 'creative' or 'pro', you can be sure it isn't. B > On 7 Jan 2017, at 16:18, Christine Aguila wrote: > > That Pen-F is a beautiful camera! Cotty, just out of interest, have you used > any of the Creative Features explained in the

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Christine Aguila
That Pen-F is a beautiful camera! Cotty, just out of interest, have you used any of the Creative Features explained in the videos at the bottom of this page? I believe it’s the last video. http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/digitalcameras/pen/pen-f.html

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/1/17, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >By not even having an EVF and just using the large display on the back, >they forced people to keep it at arms length, both physically and >metaphorically. They were trying to appeal to people that used phones as >their cameras, without

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/1/17, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I should do beauty shots of the SL with R lenses, eh? Whatever floats yer boat ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/1/17, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: >My biggest problem with adapting the old K and A lenses is that my eyes are >starting to SUCK - I'll dial the focus in, think I've got it, hit the >shutter... and later I'll see that I was MILES from being in focus. Even >using the focus

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-07 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 6 Jan 2017, at 23:38, Bill wrote: > >> On 1/6/2017 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> >> Charles Robinson wrote: >>> Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under >>> $700. >>> The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 01:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Brian Walters wrote: > > >I'm hanging on to my Pentax gear waiting for the mythical and > >competitive Pentax mirrorless to appear (much as I liked the idea of the > >K-01, it wasn't what I wanted). > > Tha K-01 can be had really cheap on

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote: >I'm hanging on to my Pentax gear waiting for the mythical and >competitive Pentax mirrorless to appear (much as I liked the idea of the >K-01, it wasn't what I wanted). Tha K-01 can be had really cheap on eBay these days. You might want to try one out. I thought I'd hate it

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread steve harley
On 2017-01-06 8:30 , Charles Robinson wrote: Howdy, folks! I used to be on this list and things got busy/weird and I left about a year or two ago... I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Larry Colen
P. J. Alling wrote: Sadly, the K-01 wasn't really what anyone wanted. Sales outside Japan were disappointing, and I at least thought that no one would ever attempt a mirrorless camera that natively supported DSLR lenses again. By not even having an EVF and just using the large display on the

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Sadly, the K-01 wasn't really what anyone wanted. Sales outside Japan were disappointing, and I at least thought that no one would ever attempt a mirrorless camera that natively supported DSLR lenses again. Then came the Sigma mirrorless sd Quatro cameras, and the concept though wounded

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread John
On 1/6/2017 3:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Charles Robinson wrote: Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under $700. The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by KEH as "fair" or maybe even "BGN" (or even UGLY - don't know!). The 16-50 is as good as it

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Bill
On 1/6/2017 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Charles Robinson wrote: Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under $700. The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by KEH as "fair" or maybe even "BGN" (or even UGLY - don't know!). The 16-50 is as good as it

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Bill
On 1/6/2017 1:59 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I do have a couple of adapters - still working out which lenses work well with the OM-D and which do not. I'm jealous of that 85mm f1.4! You don't want to click this link. http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/xt-1pron1.html -- PDML

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Brian Walters
G'day Charles Nice to hear from you again. By all means hang around - you wouldn't be the only one shooting other brands. I've gone down the OMD route too (just bought an E-M5ii to add to my E-M10) but I still like to drag out the K-5 from time to time. It's still a great camera - these days,

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Larry Colen
Charles Robinson wrote: Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under $700. The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by KEH as "fair" or maybe even "BGN" (or even UGLY - don't know!). The 16-50 is as good as it ever was, though, so I'll poke around a

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 6, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 6/1/17, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: >> I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus >> OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of >> years,

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Charles Robinson
I do have a couple of adapters - still working out which lenses work well with the OM-D and which do not. I'm jealous of that 85mm f1.4! My biggest problem with adapting the old K and A lenses is that my eyes are starting to SUCK - I'll dial the focus in, think I've got it, hit the shutter...

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 6/1/17, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: >I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus >OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of >years, actually. Hi Charles. Been using a Pen-F for a while, you might like to glance at

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Charles Robinson
Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under $700. The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by KEH as "fair" or maybe even "BGN" (or even UGLY - don't know!). The 16-50 is as good as it ever was, though, so I'll poke around a bit and see - perhaps starting

Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I just checked KEH.com and they have a plain old K-5 in stock for a bit over $300. The 16-50 isn't listed but they're still manufactured and KEH generally sells them for about 10-20% less than retail new for EX condition. So if you bought it before the recent price increase you can probably

Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Charles Robinson
Howdy, folks! I used to be on this list and things got busy/weird and I left about a year or two ago... I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of years, actually. It pains me to watch my K5 and