No problem. Thinking about Pentax business motives is enough to make
you bite the dog.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
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I wrote:
Certainly
: New Pentax DSLR's?
Shawn wrote:
So it still might be in Pentax's interest to do everything they
can to gain a foothold in those markets by releasing a high-end SLR.
Way too late for doing that. Any year between 1980 and 2000 could have been
a good year for launching a good high-end SLR, supported
The Baby D could be really good. From all I have read, the D70 has some
improvements over the D100.
Prediction (no insider info here, just speculation):
Same as *ist D:
Imaging electronics and sensor, maybe even a new sensor although still
6 MP
same AF (after all, the low end film *ist has the
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a totally unrelated note, I managed to find a 28/2.0 M at
my local
camera repair place for $150. Cosmetically, it looks like it
has been
sandblasted, but the glass is immaculate. Given that KEH
normally lists
these
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:04:50 +0200
From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: New Pentax DSLR's?
Shawn wrote:
So it still might be in Pentax's interest to do
everything they
can to gain a foothold in those markets by releasing
a high-end SLR.
Way too late
alexanderkrohe wrote:
I don't think it is too late. I think if they
release a high end film SRL it will be a niche product
(for minorities) and not a mass product. Its sales
number won't be that much affected by rising DSLR
sales.
If Pentax had such an idea (and they probably had it some
alexanderkrohe wrote:
Serving only a niche market would certainly be not
profitable enough.
Niche markets usually allow higher gain per item, hence can be profitable,
but not for a company the size of Pentax. A smaller company (Cosina, Leica,
and so on) could fit a niche market.
OTOH by
I wrote:
Certainly they need mass-produced articles. But as any
other better camera producer they don't just sell
stand-alone products, they do sell camera systems
(including a range of cameras from high-end to basic
level). Will they support a full-range system in the
future ? A
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alexanderkrohe wrote:
Serving only a niche market would certainly be not
profitable enough.
Niche markets usually allow higher gain per item, hence can be profitable,
but not for a company the size of Pentax. A smaller
From: Dario Bonazza
Subject: Re: New Pentax DSLR's?
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:39:18 -0700
I wrote:
OK, this is what you will do, if you were Pentax.
This is also what I
would
have done in the past, if I was Pentax (a high end
film SLR is not the
niche
product I'd market today
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A smaller company than Pentax will fit better. For Pentax, a niche market
can only complement their main business. Now they are trying to re-build
their main business, and all of their resources
Herb wrote:
FWIW, if you read the announcement of the DA 14/2.8, it mentions that it
fits Pentax's digital SLRs (note plural). also, financial analysts in Japan
are expecting some new Pentax SLR bodies to ship in the spring. no mention
of where they got that information from. i can only assume
Hi Pål,
on 23 May 04 you wrote in pentax.list:
According to one source no Pentax digital slr are expected this year.
Pentax will concentrate on volume digital products this year as it is
of paramount important that Pentax increase volume in digital as the
Pentax volume segment, upmarket film
.
-Shawn
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From: Dr. Heiko Hamann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 1:48 PM
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I don't think, that Pentax will make the needed investments into the
development of a new high-end SLR. I would rather expect
Heiko wrote:
AFAIK Pentax will show a low-end DSLR before Photokina. I'm quite sure
that they will sell it this year.
REPLY:
Could very well be. My source and I were discussing it from a enthusiast point of view
and it may be that an entry level DSLR doesn't qualify as an enthusiast product.
Hi Shawn,
on 23 May 04 you wrote in pentax.list:
Not trying to be argumentative but it just occurred to me, that as you
stated earlier, there are still a variety of world markets where film is
dominant.
Yes, absolutely agree, but...
So it still might be in Pentax's interest to do everything
Heiko wrote:
... I don't think that an high-end SLR can help gaining market shares
there. Those markets will take PS and cheap SLRs. If you could sell
more expensive products there, than you would probably sell digital
cameras there, too. Further more - Pentax already has its high-end
SLR:
Presumably because there aren't yet any APS sized or larger commercially available
chips other than the Canon one.
Nick
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(why have
we not seen any 8MP DSLRs except the big Canon?)
This discussion would be much more interesting if Pentax was able to
produce and ship its existing higher-end products, like the DA 16-45 and
the FA 77. There are backordered to east Asia with no availability in sight.
Is this just more of Pentax's marketing ineptitude? Is the company
those places where film will still dominate are ones that can't afford a
high end SLR.
Herb...
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From: Shawn K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 12:56 PM
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Not trying to be argumentative but it just
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I don't think, that Pentax will make the needed investments into the
development of a new high-end SLR. I would rather expect a high-end
DSLR. Maybe Photokina?
Cheers, Heiko
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From: Otis Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 9:41 PM
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Seems like a bit of stretch. Cos. don't tend to chase near term low ROI
based on fuzzy long-term rationale Owners/shareholders/investors
Not necessarily, I think the D70 is not a dumbed down D100 - it is
actually better in many respects.
In many respects, yes. It HAD to be a better camera than the 300D since
the 300D had about a 6-month head start. However it has a couple of
300D-isms that make it hard to use for me, probably
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