Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-20 Thread John
On 1/19/2014 5:17 PM, Bill wrote: On 19/01/2014 10:49 AM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: We tried everything under the sun but was not a simple clog to get to break up. Both of them had to be snaked out to get them to move on down the drains. For future reference, periodically, perhaps every few

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-20 Thread John
It's already connected to the drains. All you have to do is turn the faucet on all the way to hot let it run for a while. On 1/19/2014 8:06 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: The hot water heater is under the house so no way to connect it to drain out into the drain unless we do it directly by taking

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-20 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Yeah we talked about the watching of what goes down the kitchen sink. Will look into the enzymatic drain cleaners. On 1/20/2014 11:37 AM, John wrote: On 1/19/2014 5:17 PM, Bill wrote: On 19/01/2014 10:49 AM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: We tried everything under the sun but was not a simple clog

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-20 Thread Paul Sorenson
Bio-Clean is one of the best enzymatic cleaners. A combination of friendly bacteria and enzymes. I've disassembled old drains being treated with this and they looked brand new. Just be careful not to put anything down the drain that will kill the bacteria (including mouthwash, 'cause it's

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
We all need a little vent. By coincidence, had a drain problem here as well.. the drain in the left sink of twin old porcelain sinks in the kitchen got a bit clogged and an inch or two of water settled in the right (the left is deeper and where I was, the right holds the dish drainer) Luckily,

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Jeffery Johnson
We tried everything under the sun but was not a simple clog to get to break up. Both of them had to be snaked out to get them to move on down the drains. On 1/19/2014 10:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: We all need a little vent. By coincidence, had a drain problem here as well.. the drain in the

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Definitely a PITA (in more ways than one ) ann On 1/19/2014 11:49, Jeffery Johnson wrote: We tried everything under the sun but was not a simple clog to get to break up. Both of them had to be snaked out to get them to move on down the drains. On 1/19/2014 10:03 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: We

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Jeffery Johnson
When we have some spare monies going to invest in a plumbers snake. Just to have it on hand so we don't have to call a plumber. On 1/19/2014 11:57 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Definitely a PITA (in more ways than one ) ann On 1/19/2014 11:49, Jeffery Johnson wrote: We tried everything under the

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Bill
On 19/01/2014 10:49 AM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: We tried everything under the sun but was not a simple clog to get to break up. Both of them had to be snaked out to get them to move on down the drains. For future reference, periodically, perhaps every few months, run A LOT of pure hot water

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Thanks Bill that would work if the hot water heater was close but we can heat some water on the stove and do that. On 1/19/2014 4:17 PM, Bill wrote: On 19/01/2014 10:49 AM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: We tried everything under the sun but was not a simple clog to get to break up. Both of them had

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Bill
On 19/01/2014 5:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Thanks Bill that would work if the hot water heater was close but we can heat some water on the stove and do that. Is it in a different county? Are you on a well and septic tank system or a domestic utility? As an aside, it isn't a hot water

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Jeffery Johnson
The hot water heater is under the house so no way to connect it to drain out into the drain unless we do it directly by taking off one of the clean off values on the pipes. City so luckily no septic tank system to deal with. On 1/19/2014 5:41 PM, Bill wrote: On 19/01/2014 5:04 PM, Jeffery

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 1/19/2014 18:41, Bill wrote: On 19/01/2014 5:04 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: Thanks Bill that would work if the hot water heater was close but we can heat some water on the stove and do that. Is it in a different county? Are you on a well and septic tank system or a domestic utility? As an

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-19 Thread Bill
On 19/01/2014 7:06 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote: The hot water heater is under the house so no way to connect it to drain out into the drain unless we do it directly by taking off one of the clean off values on the pipes. K. I'd just turn the kitchen sink hot tap on and let it run for 10

OT: Need to vent

2014-01-18 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Okay first yes the cost could have been worse but it was twice this week. Our shower on Tuesday didn't drain so I scoop out the water. Water from the kitchen sink and bathroom sink and shower are on the same drain line. If we turned on the water in either sink and it drained well it backed up

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-18 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net: Okay first yes the cost could have been worse but it was twice this week. Our shower on Tuesday didn't drain so I scoop out the water. Water from the kitchen sink and bathroom sink and shower are on the same drain line. If we turned on

Re: OT: Need to vent

2014-01-18 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Thanks Brian. That is an Albino Wallaby. Yes the Roos are rather content and very friendly at times. It depends on the time of day. On 1/18/2014 9:32 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Jeffery Johnson jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net: Okay first yes the cost could have been worse but it was

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Cotty
On 9/1/06, Joseph Tainter, discombobulated, unleashed: This one goes into my How did the human species ever survive? file. Yesterday I got to Heathrow Terminal 4 early for my flight. [rantus snippus] Hi Joe, sorry you had a bad time at Heathrow. One point worth noting IMO is that check-in

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread mike wilson
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rantsnip Of my last four journeys with BA, three have been disasters. I would rather fly Aeroflot for the rest of my life - at least the mishaps are amusing mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread mike wilson
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I will never willingly fly British Airways again. http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/dumbed_down/article_2004_08_24_5725.php - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:47 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: None of them are very consistent, but I've had my best service from United. Same here. Particularly on transatlantic flights. My absolute worst airline is Air France. I've arrived over an hour before scheduled departure of a flight

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've had nothing but great experiences with British Airways. Great business class seating. Good food. And they've frequently given me first class upgrades without asking. In first, you get what amounts to a bed. Love those people. Paul On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:09 PM, John Francis wrote: On Mon,

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Jan 2006 at 6:44, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had nothing but great experiences with British Airways. Great business class seating. Good food. And they've frequently given me first class upgrades without asking. In first, you get what amounts to a bed. Love those people. Same in

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Need to Vent This one goes into my How did the human species ever survive? file. Yesterday I got to Heathrow Terminal 4 early for my flight Long snipping going on here... PeoplePC Online A better way

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Rick Womer
The 6kg rule is, indeed, utterly brainless. Herbert Keppler went after BA about it 3 or 4 years ago, as did the Travel section of the New York Times, and you can see what effect it had. I have found enforcement spotty. Once I had to repack everything (Philly to London), but on the return trip

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Bob Shell
On Jan 10, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Rick Womer wrote: The 6kg rule is, indeed, utterly brainless. Herbert Keppler went after BA about it 3 or 4 years ago, as did the Travel section of the New York Times, and you can see what effect it had. I have found enforcement spotty. Once I had to repack

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] When my partner went to Scotland a couple of years ago she bought a big heavy coat. As carry-on it was too heavy in combination with her other luggage, and it was a bit too big to squeeze into the suitcase. She simply wore it

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Or so deadly that you have nothing to complain about... mike wilson wrote: From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rantsnip Of my last four journeys with BA, three have been disasters. I would rather fly Aeroflot for the rest of my life - at least the mishaps are amusing mike

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread P. J. Alling
I had to once in France, some of their employees were quite helpful and pleasant, others were typical angry minor bureaucrats... Bob Shell wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:47 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: None of them are very consistent, but I've had my best service from United. Same

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Norman Baugher
HAR! And people wonder why expats get burnout Norm Joseph Tainter wrote: This one goes into my How did the human species ever survive? file.

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-10 Thread Pat White
Jostein commented: Next time I travel, I will try to wear my 500/4.5... :-) When I travelled on charter flights with a 5 kg carry-on limit, I often wore some of my photo gear, since my loaded camera bag weighs over 7 kg, not counting film, plus I stick it in my carry-on bag, along with

OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-09 Thread Joseph Tainter
This one goes into my How did the human species ever survive? file. Yesterday I got to Heathrow Terminal 4 early for my flight. After leaving off my big suitcase I dutifully stepped up to the checkpoint that you must pass before you are admitted to the security screening area. One woman is

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-09 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 08:51:23PM -0700, Joseph Tainter wrote: Other than that, it was actually a very interesting flight. Going over the Atlantic usually isn't, and I've now done it 42 times. But that's another story, and tonight I just need to rant. And I will never willingly fly

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-09 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Boy, I'm sure glad I wasn't one of the poor slobs stuck behind you. Please post your travel schedule on line so I can make sure I canavoid flights that you might be on. . . On 1/9/06, Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one goes into my How did the human species ever survive? file.

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-09 Thread Adam Maas
Sounds like a run-in with Airport workers, not BA. And yes, they are pointlessly rule-bound. BA is by far the best airline to travel in my experience. Most other airlines are worse, and no North American airline is even in competition (Why is it that we get the Worst Airlines. Most of the EU

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-09 Thread David Mann
On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: Both women asked me several times if I was in Business Class or Economy. I was in Economy, of course. I asked why it made a difference. The supervisor insisted that that in Economy, the bins would not handle the weight. The only logical

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:14 PM, Adam Maas wrote: BA is by far the best airline to travel in my experience. Most other airlines are worse, and no North American airline is even in competition I've flown over 2 million miles since 1993. BA, Virgin, United, American, Southwest, Singapore,

Re: OT: Need to Vent

2006-01-09 Thread Gautam Sarup
If it's of any consolation, I've had quite the same experience with other airlines. BA were one of the better ones to fly. This one goes into my How did the human species ever survive? file. Because of the better ones. The ones that buy Pentax among other things. :) Gautam On 1/9/06, Joseph