Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread Bob Blakely
From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> those who are "pissed eagles" are safe either in armored cars, or in the middle of nowhere. pretty convenient. This is an error in logic commonly called a "Hasty generalization" (Secundum quid). Land Rovers are not (commonly) armored and mine is factory st

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread pnstenquist
A number of upscale eateries, including one somewhat toney place in NY, the name of which I've forgotten, serve upscale versions of White Castle Burgers, or "sliders" as their commonly called. The combination of the sauted onions, thin burger, and pickle slice can be quite goood when prepared ju

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread Graywolf
White Tower hamburgers were better. Same size on a round bun (actually they were bigger (3 bites). 12 for a buck. But those were walk in fast food places for pedestrians (You stopped off after getting off the trolly and carried them the rest of the way home) When the last pedestrian died they w

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread keithw
Shel Belinkoff wrote: White Castle burgers were often called "belly bombs" . But what can you expect for an 8-cent burger (yes, that's what they cost at one time!) Shel Yeah, 8¢, but remember they were not much bigger than a 50¢ piece! More than once I got their 6 for a quarter, or whatev

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
White Castle burgers were often called "belly bombs" . But what can you expect for an 8-cent burger (yes, that's what they cost at one time!) Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Francis > Anyone who considers McDonalds to be the nadir of bad hamburgers > has never sampled the culinary d

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 06:12:42AM +0100, Cotty wrote: > On 15/7/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there... > >Are you sure about that? > > Yes. Anyone who considers McDonalds to be the nadir of bad hamburgers has nev

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/7/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >So are you going to the one across the street (Oxford St.?) from the Pret, >or the one out by the round-a-bout? Oh, there's a small one near the TV studio in Abingdon. The class of student they have in there beggars belief. I think one of the

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
So are you going to the one across the street (Oxford St.?) from the Pret, or the one out by the round-a-bout? (Just remember, if there's time to lean, there's time to clean.) Regards, Bob S. On 7/16/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15/7/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/7/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >Big Macs have been known to grow hair on your head... Just off to my job interview at the local McD's :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com __

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/7/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: >I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there... >Are you sure about that? Yes. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update Cotty, Big Macs have been known to grow hair on your head... Wasn't that one of the slogans early on? WW

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cotty, Big Macs have been known to grow hair on your head... Regards, Bob S. On 7/15/05, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >What is bleak about England and how is that attributed to the USA? > > I concede. > > McDonalds. > > > > > C

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Mishka
On 7/15/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >that you better shut up, talking about "collateral damage". > > Or what or you miay find it difficult to cope if (god forbid) someone close to you becomes one. i think this is a really lame euphemism for "kids we killed and don't gi

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
entax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update that you better shut up, talking about "collateral damage". mishka On 7/15/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >ever been one? > > There's alot I ha

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Mishka
unfortunately, it's people who are very unhappy with the current situation who are paying the consequences. like in nyc, london and madrid. those who are "pissed eagles" are safe either in armored cars, or in the middle of nowhere. pretty convenient. mishka On 7/15/05, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Mishka
nal Message----- > From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update > > ever been one? > > mishka > > On 7/14/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ever hear of colateral damage? > > > > Kenneth Waller

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Bob Blakely
I think he's saying maybe McD's didn't make it worse. Regards, Bob... - "The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing." - Jean

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread P. J. Alling
From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2005 00:10 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there... Are you sure about that? Cotty wrote: On 15/7/

RE: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Bob W
He didn't say hamburgers, he said McDonalds. Hamburgers have been around since the Roman Empire. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 July 2005 00:10 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT OT OT --

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread P. J. Alling
I had hamburgers in England before the advent of McDonalds there... Are you sure about that? Cotty wrote: On 15/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: What is bleak about England and how is that attributed to the USA? I concede. McDonalds. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

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2005-07-15 Thread Bob W
I wish I'd thought of that! -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On 15/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >What is bleak about England and how is that attributed to the USA? > > I concede. > > McDonalds.

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Bob Blakely
Freedom is not free and it's not a capital asset. Each generation must pay its price for liberty. We took the hit with Pearl Harbor and our merchant marine took the hit supplying Briton during WWII. We were aware that the consequences of stopping Hiro Hito and Hitler would be the taking of hund

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/7/05, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: >What is bleak about England and how is that attributed to the USA? I concede. McDonalds. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update No one here is whining. We're mad as hell AND doing something about it - and we're not asking your permission - and we're never going to. Get use

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Bob Blakely
inister of finance to French King Louis XIV - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update - Original Message ---

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update Exactly what is it about what any other country allied with the USA which is really not their own responsibility and choice? Uhh Bob, you guys tie a lo

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Bob Blakely
Ah... right... From: "Kevin Waterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What I fear as an Australian is not so much the Taliban, Al Queada etc it is America. Look at countries that have been allies of the USA in the past. They look rather bleak now when they were so well before being allied to the USofA[sic]

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
Believe what you want to believe. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update This one time, at band camp, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These effe

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-15 Thread Kenneth Waller
>ever been one? There's alot I haven't been. What's your pount? Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update ever been one? mishka On 7/14/05, Kenneth Waller &

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These effects (killing of noncombatants in Baghdad) were secondary to the > intended action (ridding the country of Saddam government). All for a few drops of oil, unless you really believe the WMD story. > I don't believe

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update Damn, Willie! I'd only hate ya for 90 seconds. My attention span isn't any longer... What were we arguing about? Were we arguing? William Robb

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Mishka
ever been one? mishka On 7/14/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ever hear of colateral damage? > > Kenneth Waller

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
one who wants to kill others and doesn't mind killing himself in the process. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update > > - Original Message ----- &

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Bob Blakely
h the smallest possible amount of hissing." - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: L

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Bob Blakely
sible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing." - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: OT OT OT --

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update You're being obtuse, Willie. Try just saying what you think. I have too many friends of the American persuasion on list (you included, oh Bombastic

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update Ever hear of colateral damage? Thats when a suicide bomber kills 18 children to get the 3 servicemen he was after, right? William Robb

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
tion of killing innocents. Sorry, but in war things get broken and people are killed (sometimes innocent people). Sorry if my message wasn't clearly stated. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS

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2005-07-14 Thread Bob Blakely
unt of hissing." - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ever hear of colateral damage? Kenneth Waller From: Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ever hear of colateral damage? Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update This one time, at band camp, "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The word

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Bob Blakely
Hmm... So you are saying that the Americans chose to instill terror in the noncombatant Iraqi populous by targeting and destroying innocents such as children, students, and the general Iraqi population irrespective of their politics concerning Sadam's regime, and it was America's intention to

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Bob Blakely
of hissing." - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update The word "terrorist" is used to

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The word > "terrorist" is used to denote a person who chooses to instill terror in a > noncombatant populous by destroying innocents such as children, students, > and or a general population regardless of their populous. I

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update The word "terrorist" is used to denote a person who chooses to instill terror in a noncombatant populous by destroying innocents such as children

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-14 Thread Jostein
TW, we've been through this semantics before, just after the tragic accident of Lady Diana. At that time, we discussed the role of photographers and in particular, the term "papparazzi" which all of a sudden was lifted into the public limelight. Jostein - Original Message ---

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-13 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:06:46 -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: > The word "terrorist" is used to denote a person who chooses to > instill terror in a noncombatant populous by destroying innocents > such as children, students, and or a general population regardless > of their populous. It's a function of

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-13 Thread Bob Blakely
possible amount of hissing." - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV - Original Message - From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bomb

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update I don't want to get involved in this argument can you guys please take it off list. Hopefully, it's run it's course. William Robb

GETTING BACK ON TOPIC: RE: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-13 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Glenn, If I didn't know better, I'd think you might be a conservative. Hopefully Useful History: Even during WWII the US, in a legitimate & moral war, used large-scale terror tactics 4 times (that I'm familiar with). Hiroshima, Nagasaki, fire-bombing Tokyo, and bombing the civilian target Dres

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-13 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't want to get involved in this argument can you guys please take it off list. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." Subject: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update A soldier attacks the enemy and the enemy&#x

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-13 Thread keithw
D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: Keith wrote: Mishka wrote: > the difference between "terrorists" and > "freedom fighters" (or "partisans", "resistance", > and so forth) has always been arbitrary. > > best, > mishka Not really... Terrorists attack seemingly indiscriminately, Russia, Israel, the U

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-13 Thread Tom Reese
Mishka wrote: how about bombing shit out of a city (say, dresden) with conventional bombs? how about "shock and awe"? why do we say, killing a few dozen on a bus (or a few hundred in a business tower) is terrorism, while killing same hundreds in an air strike is "collateral damage"? how about kil

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-12 Thread Mishka
how about bombing shit out of a city (say, dresden) with conventional bombs? how about "shock and awe"? why do we say, killing a few dozen on a bus (or a few hundred in a business tower) is terrorism, while killing same hundreds in an air strike is "collateral damage"? how about killing civilian co

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." Subject: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update A soldier attacks the enemy and the enemy's resources in an attempt to destroy said enemy or force him to withdraw. Violence is directed at accom

Re: OT OT OT -- Re: Definitions WAS Re: London Bombing update

2005-07-12 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:46:05 -0400 (EDT), D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: > Yours for more precise speech, Dear God, how would the press and politicians survive if that caught on? :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

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2005-07-12 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Keith wrote: > Mishka wrote: > > the difference between "terrorists" and > > "freedom fighters" (or "partisans", "resistance", > > and so forth) has always been arbitrary. > > > > best, > > mishka > > Not really... > Terrorists attack seemingly indiscriminately, Russia, Israel, the U.S., >

Re: OT: OT

2005-07-08 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Joaquim Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/07/08 Fri AM 02:12:49 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: OT: OT > > I like the way this list goes off-topic like a car going off the road > and then back on after a couple of miles and witho

Re: OT: OT

2005-07-07 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yes, the car veered off road and came back after a couple of miles...this time. Between Iraq and 9/11 in NYC we have had some long, rough off-road trips. Perhaps we have learned from these. We know each other fairly well, and many of us have met in person. The list is a wonderful place. Regards,

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2005-07-07 Thread Joaquim Carvalho
I like the way this list goes off-topic like a car going off the road and then back on after a couple of miles and without any major bumps. I guess photography opens people's minds.

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2004-03-23 Thread Keith Whaley
frank From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: OT Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:23:49 -0500 Not only is it off topic it is the bigest waste of bandwidth on the internet. When I had a usenet server of my own I once went in and counted.

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2004-03-22 Thread frank theriault
Tom, It is not! cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: OT Date: Mon, 22 M

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2004-03-22 Thread Steve Jolly
frank theriault wrote: First, welcome aboard. I hope you stick around after your flash question is answered. You'll find this forum a quite lively place, and a great source of information about Pentaxes, photography in general, and all sorts of other things, from Old English Sports Cars to "ra

Re: OT-OT-OT?! Opinions on VS1 35-85/2.8

2002-06-15 Thread Fred
> Fred, would you have a Modern or Popular Photography tes report on > the Fujica GS645? It would be around 1984. No, sorry, Jeff - I only have on hand items that I clipped out of magazines because they were important to me at the time - I don't tens to keep entire old issues. Maybe someone else

RE: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?

2001-12-05 Thread Kent Gittings
ember 05, 2001 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? In a message dated 12/5/01 9:30:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > "I agree. One of the problems is that the prognosticators have kept saying &

RE: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?

2001-12-05 Thread Kent Gittings
ittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? I agree that NASA does research, but what portion of th

Re: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?

2001-12-04 Thread aimcompute
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:27 AM Subject: RE: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? > Actually the reason is business. Without a guaranteed quick return only the > solar energy companies like Solarex can make a

RE: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography?

2001-12-04 Thread Kent Gittings
ormance driving can have the roads all to ourselves. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of aimcompute Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT ot OT Re: SUV's - was: Illegal Street Photography? F

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2001-12-03 Thread aimcompute
Funny Juan. Solar energy has always been a fascination of mine since about 7th grade. In 10th I did a Science Fair project using the phase change principle. A triangular shaped box made of insulated door material. The front had a double-paned glass door. Inside was black and suspended in it we

Re: OT OT OT

2001-12-03 Thread John Mustarde
On Sun, 02 Dec 2001 13:00:09 -0600, you wrote: >Mafud wrote: > >> He was (the only one) wearing a seatbelt. > > >The official investigation by the French government concluded that his life >was saved by the passenger-side airbag. > >--Mike Mike, please don't confuse us with facts. We're having s

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2001-12-02 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 12/2/01 2:03:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The official investigation by the French government concluded that his life > was saved by the passenger-side airbag. > > --Mike > And because he was held stationary by his seat belt. Mafud [EMAIL PROTEC

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2001-12-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 4:14 PM Subject: Re: OT OT OT > Arguing extenuating or contributing circumstances only clouds the issue of > HOW (why) SHE DIED: no seat belt. > The rest is me

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2001-12-02 Thread William Robb
Sorry Bob - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT OT OT > > > > You're wanting to infer that the people chasing the car were at fault. Mafud, I am inferring nothing. As I said in my original post on the subject. everyone involved in

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2001-12-02 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 12/2/01 10:21:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The impact is just the injury event, __ And (along with no seatbelt) what killed her. Everything else is part of the investigation. You'r talking of the extenuating ci

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2001-12-02 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 12/2/01 10:16:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Some folks do indeed die due to stupidity. JFK ordering the bubble top to be removed being one such act. Mafud [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. T

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2001-12-02 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 12/2/01 9:32:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Use boomshanka instead. It means "may the seed of your loins have fruit > in the belly of your woman". > > dave "bummer" > That's not what ~I~ heard. My understanding was "boomshanka" meant: "May the fl

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2001-12-02 Thread John Mustarde
Mafud wrote: >What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing to do with her death. She died >only because she hit the back of the front seat at 85mph. I do a lot of industrial accident investigation, and have extensive training, and I'm pretty good at it. No decent accident investigation team in ou

Re: OT OT OT

2001-12-02 Thread Bob Blakely
I like "Cheers". Different greetings and closings give color to the list. It seemed an unfortunate placement after your last sentence. Please continue with it as you desire. Some folks do indeed die due to stupidity. I enjoy reading the "Darwin Awards". Some folks die victims to the complicity of

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2001-12-02 Thread dave o'brien
On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Jon Hope wrote: > Erm, if I can't use "cheers", do you have a reasonable replacement? :-) Use boomshanka instead. It means "may the seed of your loins have fruit in the belly of your woman". dave "bummer" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe,

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2001-12-02 Thread Jon Hope
At 21:03 2/12/01, you wrote: Hi Bob >Um, I think this is getting offensive... In which case I apologise to any and all that think it so. No more on this matter from me. Erm, if I can't use "cheers", do you have a reasonable replacement? :-) Jon Relax! Take life as it comes, you can't chas

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2001-12-02 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, it at least has some vague connection to photography, via the paparazzi. However, this particular argument has orbitted at least twice before and the pass contains nothing new, so perhaps anybody who's interested in it could refer back to the archives rather than raking over the coals again.

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2001-12-02 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 12/2/01 2:26:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > "Why was she in that particular situation?" She was much more concerned with her appearance than she was with her personal safety, thus, she eschewed wearing that nasty seat belt which might wrinkle her p

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2001-12-02 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
MAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 2:28 AM Subject: Re: OT OT OT > Sorry Bob. > - Original Message - > From: Mafud > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:11 AM > Subject: Re: OT OT OT > > > > > > > What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing t

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2001-12-02 Thread Mike Johnston
pentax-discuss-digest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry Mike, she never talked to anyone. More urban rumors...She died on impact...She was ~not~ alive as people tried to get her out...driver, Dodi and Di, all dead. Mafud, It was widely reported at the time (CNN, London Times, CBS) that ambula

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2001-12-02 Thread Jon Hope
At 16:22 2/12/01, you wrote: > > > > I'm afraid I am of the opinion that they got their just >deserts. They alone > > decided on the course of action that cost them their lives. > >So, you don't believe that people react based on past experience >I take it? Hi William Of course people react acco

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2001-12-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jon Hope" Subject: Re: OT OT OT > > I'm afraid I am of the opinion that they got their just deserts. They alone > decided on the course of action that cost them their lives. So, you don't believe that people react based on past

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2001-12-01 Thread Jon Hope
At 15:28 2/12/01, you wrote: >Sorry Bob. >- Original Message - >From: Mafud >Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:11 AM >Subject: Re: OT OT OT > > > > > > > What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing to do with her >death. She died > > only becaus

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2001-12-01 Thread William Robb
Sorry Bob. - Original Message - From: Mafud Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: Re: OT OT OT > > What the Paparzzi did (or not) had nothing to do with her death. She died > only because she hit the back of the front seat at 85mph. Why was she in that particular

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2001-12-01 Thread SudaMafud
In a message dated 12/1/01 10:59:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It was guaranteed, but it wasn't instantaneous. She was talking to some of > her rescuers and was still alive when she reached the hospital. There was > just nothing that could be done, is all. So you migh

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2001-12-01 Thread Mike Johnston
pentax-discuss-digest at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Death was instantaneous and guaranteed. It was guaranteed, but it wasn't instantaneous. She was talking to some of her rescuers and was still alive when she reached the hospital. There was just nothing that could be done, is all. So you might

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2001-02-16 Thread John Francis
John Francis wrote: > > > How about illustrating something by Woodie Guthrie instead? So today I hear on the radio that there is exactly that (an exhibition of photographs to illustrate 'This Land is My Land') on view at the Steinbeck Center in Salinas (until March 4th). I guess I'm going to h

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2001-02-16 Thread Jackie Lee Mowery
Come on Dave, you never heard of sarcasm? Use your photos to illustrate the theme of Liberty. If the photos don't work, you can always hit somebody over the head with the camera. Sh . . . Photograph (almost said shoot - bad idea) protesters in Tienamin Square. Or go to Hong Kong and photograph

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2001-02-14 Thread dave o'brien
A scroll of mail from John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:10:57 -0800 Read it? y >Son, are you *moral* enough to take those photographs? "Son, have you ever rehabilitated yourself?" dave "Friday's come early this week" - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To

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2001-02-14 Thread dave o'brien
A scroll of mail from Jackie Lee Mowery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:41:10 -0600 Read it? y >While I could go along with Woody Guthrie, we could actually use the first >three lines of America, the Beautiful. Now hear me out guys. If you look >at: >My country, tis of thee >Sweet lan

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2001-02-14 Thread Dan Scott
>John Francis wrote: > >> Son, are you *moral* enough to take those photographs? > >So, I spend five years seeking out a copy of the film of Alice's >Restaurant (which, IMO, isn't as good as the song, but is worth seeing), >which was out of print in any format due to rights issues (the rights to >

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2001-02-14 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Ah, such is life. I noticed when I was in the library yesterday that they have a copy of "Alice's Restaurant". It was setting right at the front of the rack. --Tom Aaron Reynolds wrote: > > John Francis wrote: > > > Son, are you *moral* enough to take those photographs? > > So, I spend five

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2001-02-14 Thread Aaron Reynolds
John Francis wrote: > Son, are you *moral* enough to take those photographs? So, I spend five years seeking out a copy of the film of Alice's Restaurant (which, IMO, isn't as good as the song, but is worth seeing), which was out of print in any format due to rights issues (the rights to the fi

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2001-02-13 Thread John Francis
dave o'brien wrote: > > A scroll of mail from John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 09 Feb > 2001 16:43:56 -0800 > Read it? y > >How about illustrating something by Woodie Guthrie instead? > > "This land is your land" has been changed to represent other countries > - when I was growing up I u

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2001-02-13 Thread Jackie Lee Mowery
While I could go along with Woody Guthrie, we could actually use the first three lines of America, the Beautiful. Now hear me out guys. If you look at: My country, tis of thee Sweet land of liberty, Of thee, I sing. These are, in our hearts applicable to each of our countries. Pick a line and i

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2001-02-12 Thread Dan Scott
Doug Franklin wrote: >On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:18:47 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Come back bloody cowards! I will bite your legs off! (arm & legless Green >> Knight trying to pursue King Arthur) > >What are you going to do? Bleed on me? > >- No feeble threat, these days. :-( Dan Scott [E

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2001-02-12 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Mike Johnston wrote: > Nothing I say goes unchallenged yes it does. :o) a friend of mine once had his annual review at work and was told, unjustifiably in his opinion, "you're too defensive". How do you defend yourself against an accusation like that? -- Cheers, Bob

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