Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-07 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/3/13, Postmaster, discombobulated, unleashed: The job of the foley artists is to provide the sound the audience expects - or whatever will emphasize the action on screen - not provide *real* sounds. That's why we get spaceships making whooshing sounds in the vacuum of space and handguns

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/3/13, Postmaster, discombobulated, unleashed: The job of the foley artists is to provide the sound the audience expects - or whatever will emphasize the action on screen - not provide *real* sounds. That's why we get spaceships making whooshing sounds in the vacuum of

RE: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-07 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/3/13, Postmaster, discombobulated, unleashed: The job of the foley artists is to provide the sound the audience expects - or whatever will emphasize the action on screen - not provide *real*

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-07 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/3/13, Postmaster, discombobulated, unleashed: The job of the foley artists is to provide the sound the audience expects - or whatever will emphasize the action on screen - not provide *real* sounds. That's why we get spaceships making whooshing

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-05 Thread Bill
On 04/03/2013 11:09 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Spaceships whoosh! And when they whoosh you can see the stars zip by them in a near 3D effect. Despite the fact that in reality the nearest star is light years away and the stars would appear far away and not moving through the

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: John Francis On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 11:42:49AM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:41 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Why do radio and TV ads depicting camera shutter presses still insert the sound effect for a film-era motor drive? Wake up you

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Mark Roberts David Mann wrote: On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Why do forms that expect a credit card number reject spaces? When you enter a credit card number in an online ordering form, it would make sense to enter the groups of digits with

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-04 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:41 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Why do radio and TV ads depicting camera shutter presses still insert the sound effect for a film-era motor drive? Wake up you ad-creating doofuses!! It's not 1995. The sound-effect for most every digital camera

RE: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-04 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson 2. Why do radio and TV ads depicting camera shutter presses still insert the sound effect for a film-era motor drive? Wake up you ad-creating doofuses!! It's not 1995. The sound-effect for most every digital

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-04 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 11:42:49AM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:41 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Why do radio and TV ads depicting camera shutter presses still insert the sound effect for a film-era motor drive? Wake up you ad-creating doofuses!!

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Charles Robinson 2. Why do radio and TV ads depicting camera shutter presses still insert the sound effect for a film-era motor drive? Wake up you ad-creating

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-04 Thread Joseph McAllister
The worst offenders are the NCIS and Law Order series. To me it's not the shutter sound that grates, it's the motor drive film advance that drives me nuts (except for the older reruns). That, and basic camera handling technique, like not moving an inch in any direction, yet firing off 3 or 4

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-04 Thread Postmaster
Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:41 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Why do radio and TV ads depicting camera shutter presses still insert the sound effect for a film-era motor drive? Wake up you ad-creating doofuses!! It's not 1995. The sound-effect for most

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-04 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
whooshing through the cosmos as we speak - at least it better be!). cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Postmaster postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: March 4, 2013 3/4/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - two unrelated complaints Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 2

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 2/3/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: I have complaints about two things that are unrelated except that there's nowhere useful to complain about them, so I'll unload here. Sorry, this is arguments. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread David Mann
On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: As a programmer myself, agreed except for that very last point. I mean, the form as a whole shouldn't clear, but it's arguable (though not an argument I'm going to have on this list ;-) that clearing the credit card number is a

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread Mark Roberts
David Mann wrote: On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Why do forms that expect a credit card number reject spaces? When you enter a credit card number in an online ordering form, it would make sense to enter the groups of digits with spaces between so

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread Norman Baugher
How about when they ask you what type of credit card you are using when in actuality, the first digit of the number denotes the card type? Norm On Mar 2, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I have complaints about two things that are unrelated except that there's nowhere useful to complain

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013, Norman Baugher wrote: How about when they ask you what type of credit card you are using when in actuality, the first digit of the number denotes the card type? Although you're right in this particular case, I'm somewhat sympathetic to the desire for check digits in user

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread Paul Sorenson
True - it's a pain if you have to scroll far enough to get to a state that begins with a letter toward the end of the alphabet. OTOH, most lists will get you in the ballpark by hitting the first letter of the state you want. I can get to Wisconsin usually with three taps of the W. -p On

RE: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread Bob W
How about when they ask you what type of credit card you are using when in actuality, the first digit of the number denotes the card type? Norm redundancy is an important aspect of verifying user input. Something can be valid but still wrong, so an element of redundancy helps to detect

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread mike wilson
On 03/03/2013 10:06, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 2/3/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: I have complaints about two things that are unrelated except that there's nowhere useful to complain about them, so I'll unload here. Sorry, this is arguments. No, it isn't. -- No fixed Adobe

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That's contradiction. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:22 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Sorry, this is arguments. No, it isn't. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-03 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 06:11:07AM -0800, Aahz Maruch wrote: Similarly, if you're only allowing US addresses, you don't need the state if you're getting the ZIP codes (ZIP codes cross every single legal boundary in the US except states AFAIK). But the cross-check is still useful. I believe

OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-02 Thread Bruce Walker
I have complaints about two things that are unrelated except that there's nowhere useful to complain about them, so I'll unload here. 1. Why do forms that expect a credit card number reject spaces? When you enter a credit card number in an online ordering form, it would make sense to enter the

RE: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-02 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
, 2013 3/2/13 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - two unrelated complaints I have complaints about two things that are unrelated except that there's nowhere useful to complain about them, so I'll unload here. 1. Why do forms that expect a credit card number reject spaces? When

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-02 Thread David Mann
On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Why do forms that expect a credit card number reject spaces? When you enter a credit card number in an online ordering form, it would make sense to enter the groups of digits with spaces between so you can easily see if

Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

2013-03-02 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013, David Mann wrote: On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Why do forms that expect a credit card number reject spaces? When you enter a credit card number in an online ordering form, it would make sense to enter the groups of digits