Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-24 Thread John
On 7/22/2017 12:06, John Francis wrote: On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 01:05:14AM -0400, John wrote: Not that worried about saving gas there. A long down-hill with an automatic transmission means using the brakes all the way. Even if you're pumping & releasing, you can end up with your brakes getting

RE: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-22 Thread John Coyle
PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru While I did drive a few newer CVT equipped vehicles I didn't drive them enough to answer your question, however I'd be surprised if you couldn't get engine compression braking with them going do

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-22 Thread Larry Colen
John Francis wrote: On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 01:05:14AM -0400, John wrote: Not that worried about saving gas there. A long down-hill with an automatic transmission means using the brakes all the way. Even if you're pumping& releasing, you can end up with your brakes getting burnt up. I've

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-22 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 01:05:14AM -0400, John wrote: > Not that worried about saving gas there. > > A long down-hill with an automatic transmission means using the brakes > all the way. Even if you're pumping & releasing, you can end up with > your brakes getting burnt up. > > I've done it in

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-21 Thread John
/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Igor PDML-StR" <pdml...@komkon.org> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru IMHO, those emulated steps on top of the CVT are ludicrous. One of the biggest advantages (and the reasons why CVT was invented in the first

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
icles I didn't drive them > enough to answer your question, however I'd be surprised if you couldn't get > engine compression braking with them going downhill. > > > -Original Message- >> From: John <sesso...@earthlink.net> >> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptecte

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-21 Thread Ken Waller
ehicles and they are >> very hard not to like and generally shift quicker than most can shift a >> manual. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - From: "Igor PDML-StR" <pdml...@komkon.org> >> S

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2017-07-21 Thread Zos Xavius
> >> I also prefer a good manual transmission - I prefer the involvement - >> but I've driven some of the better dual clutch vehicles and they are >> very hard not to like and generally shift quicker than most can shift a >> manual. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> h

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-21 Thread Zos Xavius
ive, so much that some manufacturers have added a shift > feel to their CVT transmissions so as to eliminate the constant acceleration > feel. > > > -Original Message- >>From: Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> >>Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subar

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mon Jul 17 11:34:56 EDT 2017 P. J. Alling wrote: >>>> >>>> That's simply because most drivers are used to automatic transmissions >>>> with discrete gears. I don't prefer either, giv

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-21 Thread Stanley Halpin
t;> manual. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >> >> - Original Message - From: "Igor PDML-StR" <pdml...@komkon.org> >> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru >> >> >&g

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-21 Thread John
..@komkon.org> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru IMHO, those emulated steps on top of the CVT are ludicrous. One of the biggest advantages (and the reasons why CVT was invented in the first place) is the stepless, smooth transmission. So, this "emulation" is undoi

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-18 Thread Stanley Halpin
2017 9:59 AM, Ken Waller wrote: >> That constant acceleration - lack of shift feel is subjectively seen by > some drivers as a negative, so much that some manufacturers have added a > shift feel to their CVT transmissions so as to eliminate the constant > acceleration feel. >> &

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
not to like and generally shift quicker than most can shift a manual. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > ----- Original Message - From: "Igor PDML-StR" <pdml...@komkon.org> > Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Su

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-18 Thread Ken Waller
and generally shift quicker than most can shift a manual. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Igor PDML-StR" <pdml...@komkon.org> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru IMHO, those emulated steps on top of the C

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2017-07-18 Thread Igor PDML-StR
a negative, so much that some manufacturers have added a shift feel to their CVT transmissions so as to eliminate the constant acceleration feel. -Original Message- From: Zos Xavius Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy betw

RE: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-17 Thread John Coyle
Of Zos Xavius Sent: Monday, 17 July 2017 8:24 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80. What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. Just

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-17 Thread P. J. Alling
. -Original Message- From: Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80. What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. Just smooth acceleration until you take you

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2017-07-17 Thread Ken Waller
zosxav...@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru > >My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80. >What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. Just >smooth acceleration until you take your foot off the pedal. > >On

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
That should have read 2-liter four of course. Paul via phone > On Jul 16, 2017, at 11:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I'd be worried about CVT durability, but for me, the main drawback is the > driving feel. My 2014 Equinox has an 8-speed automatic, it feels great with a

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-17 Thread Zos Xavius
My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80. What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. Just smooth acceleration until you take your foot off the pedal. On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I'd be worried about

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'd be worried about CVT durability, but for me, the main drawback is the driving feel. My 2014 Equinox has an 8-speed automatic, it feels great with a peppy 3- liter four, and has been trouble free. Nothing but oil changed thus far. Paul via phone > On Jul 16, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Mark C

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2017-07-16 Thread Mark C
Hi Igor - I'm certainly happy with Subaru's decision to extend the warranty on their CVT's and to provide retroactive compensation. I don't expect to be using the money for a new lens. I'm pretty happy with the lenses I have - turns out that hanging onto good full frame glass was not a

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, I think you have it right. At one time. JDP did only the IQS, but they've grown their business model. I upset them 34 years ago when I wrote an ad for jaguar that claimed they had the biggest improvement of any carmaker. It was true. They went from last to something like fifteenth. After

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Igor PDML-StR
From what I know, all reports from JDP are based on the owner (satisfaction) surveys. That is the in the core of their business model. The difference is in areas/parameters in which the satisfaction is evaluated. With respect to cars, there are these car ratings that JDP produces: 1.

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Igor PDML-StR
An additional thought: I suspect those ranking could be skewed for people's expectation for their cars in different price segments. The fact that Acura is way below Honda, and Infiniti is somewhat bellow Nissan probably doesn't tell that the "fancier" sub-brand cars are necessarily worse,

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I was referring to the owner satisfaction survey. I think it was just released. Paul via phone > On Jul 16, 2017, at 1:33 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Paul, > > First of all thanks for (unintended) reminder to look at J.D. Power reports > (I am looking for a car now).

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Paul, First of all thanks for (unintended) reminder to look at J.D. Power reports (I am looking for a car now). I didn't do an extensive search, but this listing that I found: http://www.jdpower.com/ratings/study/Vehicle-Dependability-Study-%28VDS%29-by-Make/1881ENG shows Ford among the same

OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Hi Mark, I was just thinking about you and your Subaru CVT a few time in the past week. (We are looking for a car right now.) I am glad to hear that good news. I'd say that's probably an indicator of Subaru being one of the better manufacturers (behavior-wise). (Even though they should've

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Alan C
5:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru I have no idea what the problem was with Ecosport, but Ford does just fine here. Subaru, on the other hand was among the ten most problematic cars in the latest J.D. Power survey. Audi and Infiniti made

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
ust manifold. Ford has taken a huge knock >>> in SA. You pay your money & hope for the best. >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Mark C >>> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 5:45 AM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-16 Thread John
manifold. Ford has taken a huge knock in SA. You pay your money & hope for the best. Alan C -Original Message- From: Mark C Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 5:45 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru Just over a year ago I posted about the failur

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2017-07-16 Thread Mark C
n C -Original Message- From: Mark C Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 5:45 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru Just over a year ago I posted about the failure of my Subaru CVT transmission, and appreciated the advice I got here. Yesterday I received a

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2017-07-15 Thread Alan C
y a burst hose on the power steering which causes flammable fluid to spray onto the exhaust manifold. Ford has taken a huge knock in SA. You pay your money & hope for the best. Alan C -Original Message- From: Mark C Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 5:45 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT

OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

2017-07-15 Thread Mark C
Just over a year ago I posted about the failure of my Subaru CVT transmission, and appreciated the advice I got here. Yesterday I received a notice from Subaru that they have retroactively extended the warranty on the CVT's to 10 years / 100K. The letter included a claim form to get