On 24/02/2015 1:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Well, we could get Mark on that on line manual and he could knock
off his naps to complete it.
Let us know what he says, Bill.
Heh. The game was, of course, to see how many acronyms one could use in
a sentence that still made some sense.
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That's exactly why we need Marks Anachronism Manual.
Get him on that, Bill. Don't be a slacker.
Jack
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On 24/02/2015 9:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
In all likely hood, the explosion of acronyms would blow the mind.
The company I used to work for had enough acronyms that they ended up
publishing an online manual listing them and what they stood for.
It made for fun
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Bruce Walker wrote:
So is Lik's work resellable for a lot of money? Apparently, not so
much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-
success-sell-prints-print
In all likely hood, the explosion of acronyms would blow the mind.
Jack
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All I can figure so far is we
. Please let us know. :)
Jack
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Bruce Walker wrote:
So is Lik's work resellable for a lot of money
If you figure this all out, Bruce. Please let us know. :)
Jack
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Bruce Walker wrote:
So is Lik's
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote:
I once walked past a London gallery that had a building skip outside, ready
for collection. An eyesore on the street, but if it had been placed as a
main exhibit within the gallery, no doubt some would have considered
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
What is a building skip?
Most of what I say in my two ventures into the Tate Modern would make
Peter Lik's work look artistic by contrast.
A good question. It is really halfway between a wheeled dumpster and a truck
roll off container for big house projects.
Here
On 2/24/2015 8:55 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote:
I once walked past a London gallery that had a building skip outside, ready
for collection. An eyesore on the street, but if it had been placed as a
main exhibit within
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote:
Here is a picture that looked pretty identical:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Skip_containing_rubbish_1
6s06.jpg
It also looks a lot like some of what I saw in the Tate Modern . . .
Dan
On 24/02/2015 9:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
In all likely hood, the explosion of acronyms would blow the mind.
The company I used to work for had enough acronyms that they ended up
publishing an online manual listing them and what they stood for.
It made for fun conversations.
bill
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Quoting Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com:
On 24/02/2015 9:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
In all likely hood, the explosion of acronyms would blow the mind.
The company I used to work for had enough acronyms that they ended
up publishing an online manual listing them and what they stood for.
It
From a company memo some years ago:
PWT/FB re EIBT for FY 1980
John in Brisbane
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On 24/02/2015 1:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Well, we could get Mark on that on line manual and he could knock
off his naps to complete it.
Let us know what he says, Bill.
Heh. The game was, of course, to see how many acronyms one could use in a
sentence
Frankly, reading that about Lik, I am reminded of the following quote:
Arrogance on the part of the meritorious is even more offensive to us
than the arrogance of those without merit: for merit itself is
offensive. - Friedrich Nietzsche
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Brian Walters
Quoting John sesso...@earthlink.net:
Old FY or new FY?
Reminds me of one of my favourite quotes from 'The Odd Couple'...
Oscar to Felix: You leave me little notes on my pillow. I told you
158 times I can't stand little notes on my pillow. We're all out of
cornflakes. F.U. Took me three
IBM were famous for that. They had a very big manual and rules about how you
could form acronyms which included the strict injunction against nesting
acronyms inside other acronyms. My favourite, possibly apocryphal, was AMD or
Air Movement Device, otherwise known as a fan. A three letter
On 2015-02-24 11:20 , Bill wrote:
The company I used to work for had enough acronyms that they ended up
publishing an online manual listing them and what they stood for.
It made for fun conversations.
sometime in the late 80s i worked for NBI; a few hundred people worked
there, and everyone i
I don't think his question was whether it was art, but whether it was
photography. Probably in much the same way was whether a collage that a second
grade makes of pictures cut from a magazine is photography.
On February 23, 2015 12:16:57 AM PST, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
The word
Yeah, Peter and Ken are quite unique, thankfully!
Jack
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Quoting John sesso...@earthlink.net:
Sounds
The buyer of Lik's magnum opus may not be as dumb as you think. I would
be very surprised if there wasn't some kind of tax write-off scam
involved that more than paid back the purchase price.
On 2/23/2015 3:00 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
The art world is made up of people with more money than
On 2/23/2015 2:02 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
John wrote:
On 2/23/2015 3:16 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
Like Lik and Vettriano and others, you seem to misunderstand
fundamentally what matters to the art world. Rhine II is not supposed
to be representative of what was in front of the camera.
I
John wrote:
On 2/23/2015 3:16 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
Like Lik and Vettriano and others, you seem to misunderstand
fundamentally what matters to the art world. Rhine II is not supposed
to be representative of what was in front of the camera.
I understand exactly what matters to the art world.
Yes, I know what his question was. Photography as he describes it is not what
matters to the art world. He's making a big mistake if he thinks it does.
B
On 23 Feb 2015, at 10:32, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
I don't think his question was whether it was art, but whether it was
The art world is made up of people with more money than brains, or
taste, and the con-men who bilk them, It's an entire ecosystem from
produces of shit to purveyors of shit to consumers of shit. Lik has
found out how to get the consumers of shit to consume his with out the
help of the
You're confusing the art market with the art world, and people who buy and sell
art with people who appreciate and enjoy it. There are vastly more people who
appreciate it than who buy it. If you think it's all shit then that's ok, but
if you can't defend the claim, then there's really no hope
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
You're confusing the art market with the art world
EXACTLY!
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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P.J. Alling wrote:
I don't think it's all shit, however when art is defined as anything the
artist says it is, than everything and nothing is art.
There are many reasons that I consider myself a photographer rather than
an artist.
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I don't think it's all shit, however when art is defined as anything the
artist says it is, than everything and nothing is art. I found it
appalling that a 12x12 room filled a foot deep with Pennsylvania loam
was art, about 20 years ago. It was valued at about a Million Dollars.
You could
The word is giclée and it's not made up, it's French. It means a jet of liquid
which squirts out of something. It's also used of a burst of machine-gun fire.
Like Lik and Vettriano and others, you seem to misunderstand fundamentally what
matters to the art world. Rhine II is not supposed to be
It's completely irrelevant in the context of the art world whether he used
Photoshop or not, or what media it's printed on or what type of camera he used,
and none of that has any bearing at all on prices.
B
On 23 Feb 2015, at 00:59, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Not that I
Bruce Walker wrote:
So is Lik's work resellable for a lot of money? Apparently, not so
much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-
success-sell-prints-print-money.html
I quite like the image talked about here, although not for the sum involved.
He thinks the
That's an interesting article. He sounds like a photography version of Jack
Vettriano.
B
On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:39, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
So is Lik's work resellable for a lot of money? Apparently, not so much.
So is Lik's work resellable for a lot of money? Apparently, not so much.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/business/peter-liks-recipe-for-success-sell-prints-print-money.html
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Now I have to google Jack Vettriano...
ann
On 2/22/2015 16:56, Bob W-PDML wrote:
That's an interesting article. He sounds like a photography version of Jack
Vettriano.
B
On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:39, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
So is Lik's work resellable for a lot of money?
Quoting John sesso...@earthlink.net:
Sounds to me like he thinks he's Ken Rockwell.
I think Rockwell would love to be Peter Lik, then he could stop
expecting visitors to his website to pay $5 for the 'privilege' of
printing out one of his articles.
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Sounds to me like he thinks he's Ken Rockwell.
On 2/22/2015 4:56 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
That's an interesting article. He sounds like a photography version of Jack
Vettriano.
B
On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:39, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
So is Lik's work resellable for a lot of
Took me a second to remember him, but I think he's that English
painter who did the one about couple dancing in the rain on the beach
at Brighton while their servants hold umbrella's for them. You often see
reproductions of the painting in the kind of art gallery where they'll
tell you that
The quote from the London Gallery owner is pretty telling, not so much
about Lik, but certianly about the Art photography marked. Let's see,
Rhine II, wasn't exactly a photograph, it was a heavily Photoshopped
inkjet, (Oh, I'm sorry, perhaps I should have used the word Gilcee
instead of
Not that I disagree with the bulk of your sentiments here -- I said
much the same to my wife at dinner about admiring the guy's marketing
skills -- but you appear to be stating that photographs effectively
cease to exist once chemicals and negatives are out of the loop. An
idea I vehemently
Oh, no I'm not saying that. I can't remember where I read this but
there was an on line article about Rhine II showing the original scene.
There wasn't just one ugly factory removed by Photoshopery, but the
entire horizon of ugly factories was removed. When I say heavily
Photoshopped I mean
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