I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment.
One could always resort to film.
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Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment.
One could always resort to film.
I've spent lots of time in darkrooms. Shooting film does nothing to
stop you wasting paper!
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I've spent lots of time in darkrooms. Shooting film does nothing to
stop you wasting paper!
No, but it does deal with *some* of the pretense of digital being
better/faster.
Good printing in both digital and chemical work takes effort.
(And I'm still waiting for a digital print that can stand up
Inkjet printing of scans would still require photo paper. ;-)
Jack
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From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net
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Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Printing BW
I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment.
One could
I'd rather not tote an 8x10 field camera in a wheel borrow, but I agree.
Jack
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From: Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net
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Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Printing BW
I've spent lots of time in darkrooms. Shooting
On 2/4/13, Mark C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Paul and Bill and others are right to note that you have to disable
printer management of the color and then let PS Elements manage it.
Otherwise you could get double profiling - PS Elements outputs the print
profiled to the paper and then the
From: Mark Roberts
Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment.
One could always resort to film.
I've spent lots of time in darkrooms. Shooting film does nothing to
stop you wasting paper!
Say what you will, I've never had any color management problems in a BW
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:27 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Say what you will, I've never had any color management problems in a BW
darkroom.
BW prints came out BW, not cyan or magenta.
I most often printed on Ilford Multigrade IV RC, and for me it tended
to have a greenish
Hi Jack
Others have been giving you good advice. Don't guess, you need to
calibrate a printer profile, or at least use one of the canned profiles.
One other thing I've found, print and print often. My R1800 doesn't do
too badly at BW, but leave it for a week or two, a few nozzles get
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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 7:59 PM
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When I do Black and white on the Epson v500 I have made a file that is
in _saved in grayscale_... seems to me that problems with color cast
I've had were a combination of the type of paper I was printing
I don't seem to have received it, Paul. PLEASE re-send it.
Thanks!
Jack
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From: Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 10:21 PM
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Jack -
I sent you a long reply off list
Thanks, Derby. Am using the profile offered by Epson for there Ultra Premium
Luster.
Jack
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From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au
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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: Printing BW
Hi Jack
Others have
Paul and Bill and others are right to note that you have to disable
printer management of the color and then let PS Elements manage it.
Otherwise you could get double profiling - PS Elements outputs the print
profiled to the paper and then the printer re-profiles that and things
go wonky...
-m...@charter.net
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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Printing BW
Paul and Bill and others are right to note that you have to disable printer
management of the color and then let PS Elements manage it. Otherwise you could
get double
I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having
sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours.
Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times with meals, toilet
and accompanying my wife in her travels to uninteresting places.
Good results are very difficult to achieve when the printer controls the color.
Change your setup to Photoshop controls color and turn off all printer color
control. You can find instructions for printing workflow management on the web.
Paul
On Apr 1, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Jack Davis
an Epson R3000 with multiple black inks
for my BW work and I believe that's really the way to go. I'd never
go back to printing BW with a color inkset.
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to printing BW. 1) Clean printer heads. 2) Turn off
all color controls. This person is now retired and working out of his home. I
understand he makes house calls. I have his business card and am about ready to
give him a call.
Thanks!
Jack
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From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu
On 1/4/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
. I
gave up and ended up buying an Epson R3000 with multiple black inks
for my BW work and I believe that's really the way to go. I'd never
go back to printing BW with a color inkset.
Great - thanks a lot mate! Now I have to save up for one
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If the R1800 doesn't have a dedicated BW mode (using only black
inks), then at the very minimum you need to buy the hardware and
software for making your own paper profiles to have any hope
Yeah...problem solved.
Jack ;-)
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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 3:52 PM
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On 1/4/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
. I
gave up and ended up buying an Epson
a pro editor acquaintance to question on such things and he says he
does two things when it comes to printing BW. 1) Clean printer heads. 2)
Turn off all color controls. This person is now retired and working out of
his home. I understand he makes house calls. I have his business card and am
On 01/04/2013 3:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate
having sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last
36 hours. Would have been more, but I've been interrupted a few times
with meals, toilet and accompanying my
Bill wrote:
Sometimes with BW, you just have to
decide what colour cast is least objectionable.
Wisdom.
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Thanks again, Paul.
Jack
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Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:51 PM
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I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which doesn't
have
Appreciated info, Bill.
Thanks. I'll save your message.
Jack
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On 01/04/2013 3:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
I'm
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I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which doesn't
have multiple blacks. It's much easier with one of the newer multi-black
printers like the 3000 or the 2880, but you should
Subject: Re: Printing BW
I used to be able to get decent BW prints with an Epson 1200, which
doesn't have multiple blacks. It's much easier with one of the
newer multi-black printers like the 3000 or the 2880, but you
should be able to get acceptable BW results with the 1800.
You don't
Jack -
I sent you a long reply off list. If you have any questions please let
me know.
-p
On 4/1/2013 4:39 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
I'm done wasting photo paper...for the moment. I estimate having
sacrificed about 20 sheets of A3 Ultra Premium Luster in the last 36 hours.
Would
I read about a technique for scanning BW negs recently (I forget where) that
seems to work pretty well, or at least better that the way I had been doing
things. The author recommended scanning the negs as color *positives*, using the
scanner's highest bit-depth and resolution. Get the levels
I'm finding that if I expose/develop a
BW neg just right for optical printing, that it
SCANS (Epson 2450) a little to dark (scanner
likes a little more density ). Is this
typical or a fault with my scanner/driver??
I'm using silverfast driver...
Second question (may be a little too basic
but
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From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I'm finding that if I expose/develop a
BW neg just right for optical printing, that it
SCANS (Epson 2450) a little to dark (scanner
likes a little more density ). Is this
typical or a fault with my
On 24 Sep 2002 at 20:58, William Robb wrote:
This, in part, is the siren song of larger negatives. You can
get the shadow detail you want, and still have the sharpness
needed to make a great print, simply because you are enlarging
the negative less.
Mr Robb, do you have to make so much
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From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: Scanning vs. Printing BW negs/BW basics
On 24 Sep 2002 at 20:58, William Robb wrote:
This, in part, is the siren song of larger negatives. You
can
get the shadow detail you want, and still have the sharpness
needed to make
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