Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
From: "Ken Waller"
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: RE: Green mode, a detail I'd
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "John Francis"
Subject: Re: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 03:50:36PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote:
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- Original Message -
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: Re: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
From: Larry Colen
On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
On Behalf Of Larry Colen
I'm willin
On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: John Francis
>
>> If you were talking about one car - the 2005 Ford Focus - then you shouldn't
>> have made a generalised dismissive statement about automatics always having
>> decreased MPG.
>>
>
> Actually, I didn't.
>
> I originally
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:06 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> I was told I was *wrong*, as if anyone but me is entitled to decide what I
> should want.
You were told you were wrong, because you said: "However you slice or
dice it, an automatic transmission takes some of the engine's output
for its own
From: John Francis
If you were talking about one car - the 2005 Ford Focus - then you shouldn't
have made a generalised dismissive statement about automatics always having
decreased MPG.
Actually, I didn't.
I originally responded to Larry that I didn't care if an automatic could
"out perfor
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 06:22:48PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "Ken Waller"
>
> >From: "John Sessoms"
> >Subject: RE: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
> >
> >
> >>> On Behalf Of Larry Colen
> >>
From: "Ken Waller"
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: RE: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
> On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>
>> I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas. Level of
>> experience or knowledge
>> has nothing to do w
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 03:50:36PM -0400, Ken Waller wrote:
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms"
>
> Subject: RE: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
>
>
> >On
From: Paul Stenquist
On Apr 20, 2011, at 1:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
On Behalf Of Larry Colen
I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas.
Level of experience or knowledge has nothing to do with how
much someone spends on something. Look at how long sports
cars have been avail
From: Larry Colen
On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
On Behalf Of Larry Colen
I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas.
Level of experience or knowledge has nothing to do with how
much someone spends on something. Look at how long sports
cars have been availabl
From: Steven Desjardins
OK, here's a question: in 10, 25, 50 years, whatever, do you think
that cameras will have enough intelligence to focus and expose better
than humans, even experienced photographers? I'll assume that
composition is left to the person (for now). Of course, it's also
possi
HDR'd sunset kittens will always be popular.
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:41 PM, steve harley wrote:
> On 2011-04-20 10:39 , P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> Sure you could program in an aesthetic sense ability but it would pretty
>> much follow rules, so either you'd get the general rules that make a
>> g
Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message -
From: "John Sessoms"
Subject: RE: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
On Behalf Of Larry Colen
I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas. Level of
experie
On Apr 20, 2011, at 1:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
> On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>
>> I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas. Level of
>> experience or knowledge
>> has nothing to do with how much someone spends on something. Look at how
>> long sports cars
>> have been available
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> In the future when you purchase you camera, you won't have to travel to
> capture your images or worry about the light or the composition - the
> 'camera' will come with all possible images already captured and stored in
> the memory.
And most
m/kennethwaller
- Original Message -
From: "Steven Desjardins"
Subject: Re: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
OK, here's a question: in 10, 25, 50 years, whatever, do you think
that cameras will have enough intelligence to focus and expose better
than humans, ev
On 2011-04-20 10:39 , P. J. Alling wrote:
Sure you could program in an aesthetic sense ability but it would pretty
much follow rules, so either you'd get the general rules that make a
good photograph, which you can find in any discussion of the rule of
thirds and the golden section in a beginning
On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:25 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
> On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>
>> I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas. Level of
>> experience or knowledge
>> has nothing to do with how much someone spends on something. Look at how
>> long sports cars
>> have been availabl
On Behalf Of Larry Colen
I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leicas. Level of experience
or knowledge
has nothing to do with how much someone spends on something. Look at how long
sports cars
have been available with automatic transmissions, even before the modern ones
that
arg
The last option would be for serious types and shift almost everything
to the PS stage, e.g., control your DoF, etc. The ultimate RAW file.
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:39 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> Sure you could program in an aesthetic sense ability but it would pretty
> much follow rules, so eit
Sure you could program in an aesthetic sense ability but it would pretty
much follow rules, so either you'd get the general rules that make a
good photograph, which you can find in any discussion of the rule of
thirds and the golden section in a beginning to intermediate book on art
or photogra
OK, here's a question: in 10, 25, 50 years, whatever, do you think
that cameras will have enough intelligence to focus and expose better
than humans, even experienced photographers? I'll assume that
composition is left to the person (for now). Of course, it's also
possible that the cameras will s
Except that's the sales pitch, in pretty much any advert. that I can
remember anyway.
On 4/19/2011 8:33 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
On Apr 19, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
There are a lot of people at the horse shows now, and i suppose other
sport events, that do not rely on me for photo
Godfrey DiGiorgi writes:
> It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
> $1500+ need a "green mode"?
Well, if a non-technical everyday Joe is going to use a camera for
point-and-shoot snapshot photography, and rely totally on the camera to
do its job automatically, I'd s
On 19/4/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>you wouldn't recognise great photography if it crawled out of the toilet and
>bit you on the haemorrhoids...
This is true!
--
Cheers,
Cotty
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From: Larry Colen
Green mode overrides your configuration and saves the file as jpeg.
I never used it on anything but snapshots and documentation, but I
hate features that override your own global settings.
I've never used it, but I thought you could configure "Green mode" in
the menus to ch
tings. Either the sales person
> neglected, or they just did not RTFM.
>
> I suspect the later.
>
> Dave
>>
>>
>> John Coyle
>> Brisbane, Australia
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto
On Apr 19, 2011, at 7:50 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
> There are a lot of people at the horse shows now, and i suppose other
> sport events, that do not rely on me for photos anymore but have
> bought them self's the latest Canon and Nikon Dslr's.
> They put them in auto mode and shoot away.
> Th
y
> Colen
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011 2:59 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>> It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera cos
> Yes, people do buy expensive and/or sophisticated cameras without any
> knowledge of
> photography, or of what the camera can do. I once encountered the
> titled heir to a
> Belgian beer empire who owned a Leica - probably an M3, given the era,
> who complained it
> wasn't working properly and
Wednesday, 20 April 2011 2:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Green mode, a detail I'd forgotten
On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
> $1500+ need a "green mode"? Does P
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Cotty
> >buying a Leica instantly turns you into a great photographer. That's
> why
> >they're so expensive.
>
> When are you sending in yours for repair?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---> ;-)
>
you wouldn't rec
Child and Childproof modes as well.
On 4/19/2011 4:31 PM, Thibouille wrote:
Well Cnon semi pro bodies need Macro mode, Portrait mode etc. Funny
there's no cat mode, dog mode (one for small and one for bigger dogs)
and why not a Fish in the aquarium mode ?
2011/4/19 Godfrey DiGiorgi:
It's alway
On 4/19/2011 3:06 PM, Bob W wrote:
Real photographers buy Leicas to shoot after living on a diet of
salad, ramen noodles and peanut butter for a year or three. They don't
waste a penny on green modes. Whether they take pictures of any
particular merit better than the previously mentioned fellow i
The only problem is that it doesn't override all settings. I've got
my OK button set to enable AF, and turning to the Green mode doesn't
change that. It would be really nice if I could hand the camera to
someone without explaining how to focus.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Paul Stenquist
w
> Green mode overrides your configuration and saves the file as jpeg.
>
> I never used it on anything but snapshots and documentation, but I hate
> features that override your own global settings.
>
> --
> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
modes are bad in user interfaces.
B
--
P
Well Cnon semi pro bodies need Macro mode, Portrait mode etc. Funny
there's no cat mode, dog mode (one for small and one for bigger dogs)
and why not a Fish in the aquarium mode ?
2011/4/19 Godfrey DiGiorgi :
> It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
> $1500+ need a "g
On 19/4/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
>buying a Leica instantly turns you into a great photographer. That's why
>they're so expensive.
When are you sending in yours for repair?
---> ;-)
--
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
---
> Real photographers buy Leicas to shoot after living on a diet of
> salad, ramen noodles and peanut butter for a year or three. They don't
> waste a penny on green modes. Whether they take pictures of any
> particular merit better than the previously mentioned fellow is, of
> course, a question m
On 19/4/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
>It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
>$1500+ need a "green mode"? Does Pentax (or anyone else) really expect
>newbies to spend $1500 for a camera body? And for those people to
>tweak the settings inappropria
On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Thomas Bohn wrote:
> Moin,
>
> If you don't use the automatic modus, which I knew before. Which modes
> are you using for your daily pictures?
>
> Full manual or do you use something in between or do you change it
> from picture to picture or more precise from loca
Moin,
If you don't use the automatic modus, which I knew before. Which modes
are you using for your daily pictures?
Full manual or do you use something in between or do you change it
from picture to picture or more precise from location to location.
Thomas
2011/4/19 John Francis :
>
> Does a K-
Does a K-5 "need" a green mode? Not really.
Is it of benefit? I think so, yes.
I never use it myself. But there have been a number of occasions
where I hand my camera to somebody else for them to get a few shots.
That's when I appreciate the "idiot proofing" of the green mode.
It's not 100%
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
>> It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
>> $1500+ need a "green mode"? Does Pentax (or anyone else) really expect
>> newbies to spend $1500 for a camera bo
On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
> $1500+ need a "green mode"? Does Pentax (or anyone else) really expect
> newbies to spend $1500 for a camera body?
I'm willing to bet that people like that even buy Leica
The answer to the third question is "maybe". ;-)
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:11 PM, P. J. Alling
wrote:
> Yes they do, and yes they do.
>
> On 4/19/2011 11:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
>> $1500+ need a "green mode"? Does
Yes they do, and yes they do.
On 4/19/2011 11:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
$1500+ need a "green mode"? Does Pentax (or anyone else) really expect
newbies to spend $1500 for a camera body? And for those people to
tweak the set
The Optio actually has a physical green button just like the DSLRs.
It's a wildcard button, and I set it to green mode for my wife.
(Sorry for the confusion.) I may see if I can convince here to use
the exposure compensation. Since the LCD is 16:9, you get the whole
live view with a tiny live his
It's always been a question mark to me ... Why does a camera costing
$1500+ need a "green mode"? Does Pentax (or anyone else) really expect
newbies to spend $1500 for a camera body? And for those people to
tweak the settings inappropriately enough that a special mode is
needed so they can get a pas
Green mode is meant to be an "idiot mode," if you'll pardon the expression.
It's there so that someone with no knowledge of photography can pick up the
camera and get suitable results. Overriding any settings that were accidentally
tweaked is obviously part of that plan. For more advanced users
On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:12, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> I gave my wife an optio i-10 (that little retro compact that was way
> overpriced at $300) when it dropped down to $100. I set her green
> button to perform a basic reset, which she thinks is the greatest
> thing since sliced bread. I toyed w
I gave my wife an optio i-10 (that little retro compact that was way
overpriced at $300) when it dropped down to $100. I set her green
button to perform a basic reset, which she thinks is the greatest
thing since sliced bread. I toyed with exposure compensation, which
it needs since it can reall
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