Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-12 Thread P. J. Alling
A longer length will over correct for camera movement, if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong about it's just my intuition. Shel Belinkoff wrote: >Why? > >Shel > > > > > >>[Original Message] >>From: P. J. Alling >> >> > > > >>You enter the focal length that you're using, or one shorter

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/10/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not me. I wasn't one of them who claimed that. You've got to learn to read John, I didn't suggest or infer that you did. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.c

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Gonz
And according to the original press release at steves digicams, the K10D is going to have an even better anti shake mechanism than the K100D. So far I'm stunned by the results I'm getting with my K100D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For those who want a "real life" example of the K100D SR in acti

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks for the info. Sounds like the reduction will not be quite as optimal on the short end of the zoom, but it makes sense to go for the long end. There would naturally be more shake to correct for that. -- Bruce Wednesday, October 11, 2006, 1:41:25 AM, you wrote: >> So what happens when t

RE: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Not me. I wasn't one of them who claimed that. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Digital Image Studio Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:55 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake On 12/10/06, J. C. O&#x

RE: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
day, October 11, 2006 10:48 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake On 12/10/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why? Because under correction will likely be less offensive than over correction (which would be the case if the FL was set longer than the ac

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread gfen
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, graywolf wrote: > Maybe it reads the focal length from the lens to set the antishake > profile, but with a K/M lens it just uses a generic setting? When I use an A50, I'm required to choose the SR from a menu. When I use an FA28 or the DA18-55, it selects it automatically.

RE: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake > Hi Bruce, > > The wa

RE: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Celio Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:41 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake > So what happens when the lens is a zoom? Such as the A 70-210/4? > What focal length do you put in? http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/p

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/10/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The camera needs to know the focal length of the > Lens to apply the correct magnitude of anti shake > Compensate. It's funny, if you were across the speculation when the in-camera SR was first discussed a year or so back there were quite a

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It seems that we're all guessing a bit. So, the old saw, RTFM might apply. I was not overly impressed with the results you achieved, Bill, While there was definite improvement, I saw a test made by someone else using a 600mm lens, and the differences between using the lens with/without SR seemed

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why? Shel > [Original Message] > From: P. J. Alling > You enter the focal length that you're using, or one shorter than then > one you're using, (I can't imagine that a longer length will give good > results). > Bruce Dayton wrote: > > >Hello John, > > > >So what happens when the lens is a

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 12/10/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why? Because under correction will likely be less offensive than over correction (which would be the case if the FL was set longer than the actual lenses FL) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMA

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread P. J. Alling
You enter the focal length that you're using, or one shorter than then one you're using, (I can't imagine that a longer length will give good results). Bruce Dayton wrote: >Hello John, > >So what happens when the lens is a zoom? Such as the A 70-210/4? >What focal length do you put in? > > >

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake > Hi Bruce, > > The way it's been explained to me is that you have to set the focal > length > that you're going to use. The problem is that doing so slows you down > if &

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread John Celio
> So what happens when the lens is a zoom? Such as the A 70-210/4? > What focal length do you put in? http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/product/K100D%20Manual.pdf According to page 49 of the K100D's manual, you'd set it to the long end of the zoom, or the closest option the camera provides (in

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Inet Shopper
For those who want a "real life" example of the K100D SR in action, one chap did a rather tongue-in-cheek test, shooting on the move from his lawnmower(!). The before/after comparison shots are dramatic: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=19647176 Same guy did some nigh

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
> From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Date: 10/11/2006 12:26:04 AM > Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake > > Hello John, > > So what happens when the lens is a zoom? Such as the A 70-210/4? > What focal length do you put in? > > --

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello John, So what happens when the lens is a zoom? Such as the A 70-210/4? What focal length do you put in? -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, October 10, 2006, 6:31:47 PM, you wrote: JC> Come on guys, this has been discussed myriad times around here. When you JC> put a K/M/A lens on the K1

RE: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
> It is odd, and I'm slightly baffled by it. > > Think I'm going to pick up an SMC-A 50/2 on friday so I can do some > real field tests (as opposed to comparing disparate lenses). > > Right now, 55mm seems to be working better than 50mm as a setting for > my SMC-M 50/2. > > -Adam Temporarily ta

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread David Savage
At 11:15 AM 11/10/2006, Adam Maas wrote: > > hahahahaha sorry, I knew all that. What I thought was weird is that > > the "field tests" showed a difference in shake reduction performance > > between K, M and A lenses when I thought those three types would behave > > the same. My poor quoting. >

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: > Maybe it reads the focal length from the lens to set the antishake > profile, but with a K/M lens it just uses a generic setting? > No, both A and K/M lenses require you to enter the focal length. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Adam Maas
Christian wrote: > John Celio wrote: Maybe it reads the focal length from the lens to set the antishake profile, but with a K/M lens it just uses a generic setting? >>> With the A series it doesn't read the focal length either. Only F and >>> FA (and newer) can it read focal length.

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Gonz
he capability of transmitting > Focal length to camera? I don't think they do. > jco > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > graywolf > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:19 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Christian
John Celio wrote: >>>Maybe it reads the focal length from the lens to set the antishake >>>profile, but with a K/M lens it just uses a generic setting? >>> >> >>With the A series it doesn't read the focal length either. Only F and >>FA (and newer) can it read focal length. That's what is really w

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread John Celio
>> Maybe it reads the focal length from the lens to set the antishake >> profile, but with a K/M lens it just uses a generic setting? >> > > With the A series it doesn't read the focal length either. Only F and > FA (and newer) can it read focal length. That's what is really weird. > You'd expect

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Christian
graywolf wrote: > Maybe it reads the focal length from the lens to set the antishake > profile, but with a K/M lens it just uses a generic setting? > With the A series it doesn't read the focal length either. Only F and FA (and newer) can it read focal length. That's what is really weird. Yo

RE: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
f graywolf Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake Maybe it reads the focal length from the lens to set the antishake profile, but with a K/M lens it just uses a generic setting? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.chart

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread graywolf
Maybe it reads the focal length from the lens to set the antishake profile, but with a K/M lens it just uses a generic setting? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Adam Maas wrote: >

RE: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
, October 10, 2006 11:45 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake I'm talking actual experience, not testing. Conditions in the field determine practical use, not repeatable testing (which I could care less about). And I mostly shoot with K/M or earlier glass, so I ha

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Adam Maas
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:55 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >>Someone commente

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Adam Maas
Christian wrote: > Adam Maas wrote: > > >>I'm baffled as well, unless it takes absolute aperture into account >>somehow. But I'm getting 1.5-2 stops from K/M glass and 2-3 stops from A >>and F glass on my K100D. >> >>-Adam > > > Silly question, but can you give us a breakdown of lenses tested

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Christian
Adam Maas wrote: > > I'm baffled as well, unless it takes absolute aperture into account > somehow. But I'm getting 1.5-2 stops from K/M glass and 2-3 stops from A > and F glass on my K100D. > > -Adam Silly question, but can you give us a breakdown of lenses tested (focal length and series)

RE: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread J. C. O'Connell
List Subject: Re: K100D Anti-shake J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Someone commented the Anti shake in the K100d works > Better with "A" than with KM" lenses. W H Y ? > I do not understand how that could be true as the > Camera shouldn't be handling them differently. >

Re: K100D Anti-shake

2006-10-10 Thread Adam Maas
J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Someone commented the Anti shake in the K100d works > Better with "A" than with KM" lenses. W H Y ? > I do not understand how that could be true as the > Camera shouldn't be handling them differently. > Curious. > JCO > I'm baffled as well, unless it takes absolute apertu

Re: K100D anti-shake at 800mm

2006-08-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 16, 2006, at 7:00 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > All taken with FA*400/5.6 and 2X-L teleconverter, handheld. > > The first one at 1/90s, the rest at 1/125s. > One of the chimney pics is done with AS, one without. > > http://www.oksne.net/temp/imgp0809.jpg > http://www.oksne.net/temp/imgp0810.jp

Re: K100D anti-shake at 800mm

2006-08-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Jostein Øksne wrote: >Content warning: Flags, flowers and buildings. No kittens? Bah! -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: K100D anti-shake at 800mm

2006-08-16 Thread David Savage
On 8/16/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All taken with FA*400/5.6 and 2X-L teleconverter, handheld. > > The first one at 1/90s, the rest at 1/125s. > One of the chimney pics is done with AS, one without. > > http://www.oksne.net/temp/imgp0809.jpg > http://www.oksne.net/temp/imgp0810.

Re: K100D anti-shake at 800mm

2006-08-16 Thread David Savage
On 8/16/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, btw. > > Bandwidth warning; they're full size JPEGs, compressed to about half a > megabyte each. > > Content warning: Flags, flowers and buildings. > > Disclaimer: The poster is not responsible for any damage done to you, > your computer, o

Re: K100D anti-shake at 800mm

2006-08-16 Thread Jostein Øksne
Oh, btw. Bandwidth warning; they're full size JPEGs, compressed to about half a megabyte each. Content warning: Flags, flowers and buildings. Disclaimer: The poster is not responsible for any damage done to you, your computer, or your incentive to buy Pentax cameras as a result of viewing these