Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread David Mann
On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Cotty wrote: About Adobe http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ I hate Flash but I hate obnoxious animated ads even more. I run a Flash blocker to get rid of them... but if Flash disappears they'll use HTML5 / javascript, and turning those off

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread Tim Bray
I was unable to hold my peace: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/04/29/Flash-History -T On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: About Adobe http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ -- Cheers,  Cotty ___/\__ ||   (O)  |     People,

RE: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread Bob W
I don't think I've ever heard of an OS vendor doing something like this before. Surely the only inference one can draw from it is that their OS is not good enough to protect itself properly. That or they're just out to get Adobe. That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing - the latest versions of

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread Adam Maas
Microsoft, Java/Javascript in IE. Any console system, every other cell phone except Android and webOS Based phones. In this case, Apple is NOT an OS Vendor, they're selling a box and a way to distribute content to said box, then saying they're not going to give a 3rd party control of part of the

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Of course, then they market it like it was an open system. Two big control giants fighting each other - I have never cared for either one of their attitudes. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, April 30, 2010, 6:29:55 AM, you wrote: AM Microsoft, Java/Javascript in IE. Any console system, every

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread John Sessoms
Gonna stick my $0.02 in here ... I don't have an iPhone. Don't matter to me if they allow Flash or not, although lookin' in from the outside, I think it's gonna' come back and bite 'em in the butt sooner or later, but that's their problem not mine. The reason I don't have one is because

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-30 12:09 , Bruce Dayton wrote: Of course, then they market it like it was an open system. in one very important respect it is an open platform -- you can run any web app you want; the iPhone/iPad browser is a very good HTML5 platform, and can store data locally; now that the iPad

RE: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread John Coyle
: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs Gonna stick my $0.02 in here ... I don't have an iPhone. Don't matter to me if they allow Flash or not, although lookin' in from the outside, I think it's gonna' come back and bite 'em in the butt sooner or later, but that's their problem not mine. The reason

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 30, 2010, at 00:27 , Tim Bray wrote: I was unable to hold my peace: Flash http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/04/29/-History -T On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: About Adobe http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ While entitled to

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30/04/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: About Adobe http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ More about Apple as I read it. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-29 Thread paul stenquist
Interesting. Saw it this morning. Jobs is flexing his muscles. Paul On Apr 29, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Cotty wrote: About Adobe http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche --

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-29 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30/04/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Interesting. Saw it this morning. Jobs is flexing his muscles. The precursor: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362911,00.asp -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype,

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-29 Thread steve harley
On 2010-04-29 20:07 , Rob Studdert wrote: The precursor: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362911,00.asp it's been building for months: http://daringfireball.net/2010/01/apple_adobe_flash it's only come to a head because Adobe decided in lieu of Flash they'd build a Flash-to-iPhone app

Re: OT - Open letter from Steve Jobs

2010-04-29 Thread paul stenquist
On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 30/04/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Interesting. Saw it this morning. Jobs is flexing his muscles. The precursor: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2362911,00.asp Or the follow up. Rob Studdert (Digital