Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-13 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 11, 2013, at 00:02 , Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Dec 10, 2013, at 23:47 , Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote: I don't recall who started this thread, but if you're not set on AF, or maybe even AE, I have a K 400/5.6 with case and a Tokina SD 400/5.6 in PK-A.

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Zos Xavius wrote: Lots of vintage lenses overexpose. I have a few lenses that constantly are compensated with -1 EV. As long as its consistent its not that big of a deal. My A35-105 seems to overexpose in bright light, but as soon as I get to dim light it seems to start exposing normally. Go

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-12 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2013-12-11 1:02, Charles Robinson wrote: 400mm on an APS-C. Yow! I shouldn't ask, but I will.. - how much? I haven't really thought about it. The lens in in great shape, but the case is a bit beat up. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-12 Thread P.J. Alling
Any of the first three versions of the Vivatar 70-210mm Series 1 lenses can be had for between $70 and $190 depending on model and condition, and as you probably know the third Version can be had in A mount. The Pentax F 70-210 can be had in the same price range. Good copies are very good

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-12 Thread P.J. Alling
They are prone to a particular type of failure. (a screw holding a follower lever can come lose jamming both the zoom and focus mechanisms at the same time allowing the information brush to be mangled, (that part is made from unobtainium by the way), however and the price has gone up and down.

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-12 Thread J.C. O'Connell
If you dont mind manual focus, the SMC A70-210/4 is an outstanding optic, very sharp at all focal lengths and apertures. On 12/12/2013 4:04 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: They are prone to a particular type of failure. (a screw holding a follower lever can come lose jamming both the zoom and focus

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-12 Thread Mark C
Charles - Since you have the F 70-210 on the way this is obviously too late, but another option might be the FA 80-320 f4.5-5.6. I've been quite satisfied with mine, though it is rather slow and very noisy (makes a high pitched geary noise when it focuses.) WRT 400mm f5.6 lenses - even with

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-12 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 12, 2013, at 15:04 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They are prone to a particular type of failure. (a screw holding a follower lever can come lose jamming both the zoom and focus mechanisms at the same time allowing the information brush to be mangled, (that part is

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-12 Thread Zos Xavius
Lots of vintage lenses overexpose. I have a few lenses that constantly are compensated with -1 EV. As long as its consistent its not that big of a deal. My A35-105 seems to overexpose in bright light, but as soon as I get to dim light it seems to start exposing normally. Go figure. On Thu, Dec

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-11 Thread David Mann
On Dec 11, 2013, at 7:02 pm, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: 400mm on an APS-C. Yow! Sometimes even that isn't enough! Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-10 Thread Attila Boros
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Alastair Robertson kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote: the Pentax-DA 55-300mm F4-5.8 ED is rated quite highly if you want to buy new and should be in your budget Second that, I have it and it's very good value for money. The 50-200 is even cheaper but apparently

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 10, 2013, at 14:05 , Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Alastair Robertson kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote: the Pentax-DA 55-300mm F4-5.8 ED is rated quite highly if you want to buy new and should be in your budget Second that, I have it and

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-10 Thread Rick Womer
Well, there must be copy-to-copy variation, because I've been happy with mine; and none of the scores of photos I've taken with it and posted here have been criticized for softness. The most recent was this one (115mm, f/5.6): http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17616306size=lg Rick On

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 10, 2013, at 15:32 , Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, there must be copy-to-copy variation, because I've been happy with mine; and none of the scores of photos I've taken with it and posted here have been criticized for softness. The most recent was this one (115mm,

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-10 Thread Doug Franklin
I don't recall who started this thread, but if you're not set on AF, or maybe even AE, I have a K 400/5.6 with case and a Tokina SD 400/5.6 in PK-A. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-10 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 10, 2013, at 23:47 , Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote: I don't recall who started this thread, but if you're not set on AF, or maybe even AE, I have a K 400/5.6 with case and a Tokina SD 400/5.6 in PK-A. 'twas me... I've got a $110 Pentax-F 70-210 heading my way from KEH right

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 04:29:04PM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: Is there anything out there that is even remotely close to the 50-135 f/2.8 that costs less than $350, or am I just dreaming? A bit over a year ago, I picked up a manual focus Tokina 80-200/2.8 for about $150. I think the

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread Darren Addy
Consensus bang for the buck would be the Pentax-F SMC 70-210mm f4-4.6 (NOT the Takumar-F version). http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-70-210mm-F4-5.6-Zoom-Lens.html http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/photos/gallery/query?camera=lens=930 You can find 'em for under a $100 pretty

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 9, 2013, at 16:40 , Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I don't shoot concerts often enough (and it's just for fun) to justify even the used 50-135 at KEH for $500, even though I know that's a bargain for that lens. Damn! KEH has a 50-135 for $500? !!! $546 actually. Sorry I

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 9, 2013, at 16:46 , Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Consensus bang for the buck would be the Pentax-F SMC 70-210mm f4-4.6 (NOT the Takumar-F version). http://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-F-70-210mm-F4-5.6-Zoom-Lens.html

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread Alastair Robertson
the Pentax-DA 55-300mm F4-5.8 ED is rated quite highly if you want to buy new and should be in your budget - note the new WR version would be more pricey than this. The 50-200 is even cheaper but apparently optically not that great. I haven't used either but I can second Darren's suggestion for

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Dec 9, 2013, at 16:40 , Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I don't shoot concerts often enough (and it's just for fun) to justify even the used 50-135 at KEH for $500, even though I know that's a bargain for that

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread John
Charles, If you find two of the 70-210 tele's. Let ME KNOW! I have been looking and it's either going to be that one or a replacement for my 30-135 (which is really old and a manual lens...Golly you have to focus and zoom it at the same time.) John G - WA1JG On 12/9/2013 5:56 PM,

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Or come up with an arm and a leg and get the 60-250/4. Best lens I've ever owned, and my editors agree. Paul via phone On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:07 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Dec 9, 2013, at 16:40 ,

Re: Decent telephoto for not an arm and a leg

2013-12-09 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 9, 2013, at 17:16 , John jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Charles, If you find two of the 70-210 tele's. Let ME KNOW! I have been looking and it's either going to be that one or a replacement for my 30-135 (which is really old and a manual lens...Golly you have to focus and zoom it