Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-11 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
[...] C> 2) If it's unavoidable, leave exposed cans of film, or boxes of shot C> videotape at discreet locations (under bushes, in a hedge, over a wall, C> where they can be retrieved later in case of: C> 3) If four burly policeman demand your film or tape, obligingly hand over C> what you have

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-11 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
BR> through the courts I'll have already gotten what I wanted." Creating a scene BR> with cops can also be risky business: "That gash on his head? He tripped and BR> fell." The other three cops will swear to it also. BR> Just a word to the wise. Yes, I would be VERY careful with cops when there

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-11 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
MI> you guys are right, i should have probably behaved differently, it's just MI> when, all over sudden, you get surrounded by cops... well i got really MI> nervous, to say the least -- not much experience in this department, not in MI> this country anyway. add to that that i am not an american, j

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Treena Harp
here it's never dull! - Original Message - From: "Mike Ignatiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question) > I would really want to close the subject

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Mike Ignatiev
I would really want to close the subject. The way it goes now, it looks like a trollfest. Which wasn't my original intent. The cops were *NOT* rude or offensive in any way, all business and nothing personal. It seemed they just tried simply to cover their asses in case I was really up to something

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Treena, You are of course, correct. Police have a job that most wouldn't want to do - it's dangerous, and they often have to deal with the dregs of society on a regular basis. I disagree with your assessment of their pay - they really don't get paid all that poorly (think nurses, day-care w

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Robert Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... It is not only a couple of rotten apples in the barrel, they are often worse offenders than the ones they arrest. What sophomoric drivel -- not really worthy of a reply. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.n

Re: Re[2]: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Chris Brogden
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't really care what your lame excuse is, if they can't seperate > the real bad guys from the Joe Blow citizen who has a minor run in > with the police authorities then they should find another line of > work. It is not only a couple of rotten a

Re: Re[2]: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Rfsindg
Hey Bob W., If I was a permanent resident (not a US citizen, but with a green card allowing me to work in the US), with deep pockets and lots of financial resources, I might be an SOB and sue their asses making as big a stink as I could. If I wanted my film back and wanted to go back to the

Re: Re[2]: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread GLewis4457
I don't really care what your lame excuse is, if they can't seperate the real bad guys from the Joe Blow citizen who has a minor run in with the police authorities then they should find another line of work. It is not only a couple of rotten apples in the barrel, they are often worse offenders

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein Subject: Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question) > And I though only Bill and Pal were glad to see me. BTW, what ever happened to > Suda Myfoot? He promised to leave only if someone unsubscribed him. So

Re: Re[2]: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Treena Harp
t: Sunday, March 10, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: Re[2]: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question) > Hi, > > > In any case, you were probably inappropriately hassled for what you were > > doing. If you want to make friends with these folks, drop by the precinct &

Re[2]: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, > In any case, you were probably inappropriately hassled for what you were > doing. If you want to make friends with these folks, drop by the precinct > station house. If you can find the officers, apologize, explain your > embarrassment, and show them you are just a regular human being.

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Rfsindg
Oh Bruce, we all missed you. Suda complained of poor eyesight after his chest surgery. I think he went to a small digital autofocus for photos of the grandkids and sold his 35mm. He may still have his manly man's Pentax 6x7 however. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << And I tho

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-10 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
And I though only Bill and Pal were glad to see me. BTW, what ever happened to Suda Myfoot? --- Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce is back! Nice to see you back Bruce, miss the caustic humor :-) > Norm Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread gfen
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Brendan wrote: > troubles. With all thats going on with Sept 11 cops > seem to have a few > more rights than normal. I'm not sure I'd call those Constitutional rights, more like Constituional liberties. On one hand, I understand that they might question him and take his infor

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread Brendan
Your one recourse is that you can be compensated at least for the loss of the film, with the same film or one of equal value. You have that right even a visitor has that right. I know the feeling of having large men with large firearms walk up to you and your only thought is how not to end up in j

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread Rfsindg
Lasse, Nice to see you back. Our laws in the US are flexible in their interpretation/enforcement. This is especially true after 9/11 as everyone is nervous. What happened doesn't sound legal or necessarily appropriate, but it happens. 20+ years ago, I remember being shocked by seeing armed guar

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread pdml
Mike, It makes me angry to see someone treated the way you were. Once you were on Public Property the authorities were on very shaky ground in doing what they did. It is fortunate that they did not try this with me, I would have gone directly to an attorney. ( Provided they didn't end up arre

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mike, I just got back from Boston,myself. Have taken grab shots in the past of that interesting area. Two things come to mind. The obvious - since LOgan airport was the one the terrorists left from in September, any kind of photos of what might be a vulnerable-to-attack gives the cops a bit mor

Re: Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread Brendan
A few years ago when I was in Halifax I had my film taken from me just days before they air strikes in Kosovo. My hotel over looked the Naval base and at the time I worked for CTV ( hence how they knew I would have a camera ) , apparantly they had no cause to take the film from me but all I got ba

Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Mike I. wrote: > On an unrelated topic: today I went shooting to check out these two lenses, > to Charlestown (I live in Boston area). There's quite a spectacular > industrial view: a multi-tier highway, a huge (almost finished) bridge, with > Boston downtown skyline as a background. I was taking

Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Mike I. wrote: > On an unrelated topic: today I went shooting to check out these two lenses, > to Charlestown (I live in Boston area). There's quite a spectacular > industrial view: a multi-tier highway, a huge (almost finished) bridge, with > Boston downtown skyline as a background. I was taking

Rights and police behaviour. (Was: Hello and a lens question)

2002-03-09 Thread Lasse Karlsson
Mike I. wrote: > On an unrelated topic: today I went shooting to check out these two lenses, > to Charlestown (I live in Boston area). There's quite a spectacular > industrial view: a multi-tier highway, a huge (almost finished) bridge, with > Boston downtown skyline as a background. I was taking