Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-10-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> Does this mean if you removed or filed off the >> aperture actuator lever from the k/m lenses so >> the aperture would remained closed all the time (thus turning >> them into manual lenses), you could get metering >> and AE on the *istD with these butch

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-10-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Stupid question about M lens on *ist > Does this mean if you removed or filed off the > aperture actuator lever from the k/m lenses so > the aperture would remained closed all the time (thus turning &

RE: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-10-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist Steve Desjardins wrote: > > Stupid question. I've read that an M lens on the *ist will only meter > wide open. If the camera can't talk to the lens, how does it know what > wide open is? and if i

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-10-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Desjardins wrote: > > Stupid question. I've read that an M lens on the *ist will only meter > wide open. If the camera can't talk to the lens, how does it know what > wide open is? and if its reading the light coming through the lens, why > won't stopping down affect metering? Probably an

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:56:39 -0800 (PST) I was under the impression that Pentax "K" and newer bodies worked with "Stepless" metering? That is, the camera body closes down the aperture to the setting you input. If you set f/8 on the lens, the camera body sets that

Re: PDML pub (was Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist)

2003-03-19 Thread KT Takeshita
On 03.3.19 2:15 PM, "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please don't. We're mature enough as to already have an educated opinion > on the little grumpy old man that lurks in the pub's corner. The pub has > some good air conditioning, so we'll pretty much ignore his satisfied > smile after he fa

PDML pub (was Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist)

2003-03-19 Thread Caveman
KT Takeshita wrote: In the right moment, I will publish his "perverse" mails sent to me to show what he really is (I never do that in any other situation). Ken, Please don't. We're mature enough as to already have an educated opinion on the little grumpy old man that lurks in the pub's corner. T

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
It's amusing. Sort of like watching life aboard the USS Caine. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why are you here?

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Caveman
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: The N80 may not meter ambient light with MF lenses, but does with TTL flash Seems to me like being a very useful feature. cheers, caveman

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:43:42 -0500 You hardly know how the Pentax mount works, what makes you think you know anything about the Nikon one? The N80 may not meter ambient light with MF lenses, but does with TTL flash and can perfectly control (stop down

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Greene
--- Roland Mabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heiko Hamann tested the *ist with a M-lens at Cebit. > He reported : "Changing the aperture didn't change > the viewfinder image." > So, when you change the aperture - the lens does not > stops down. _ But neither does "closing

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
You hardly know how the Pentax mount works, what makes you think you know anything about the Nikon one? The N80 may not meter ambient light with MF lenses, but does with TTL flash and can perfectly control (stop down the aperture) a MF lens in manual mode. Go back to mindlessly waving the Pentax

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:37:07 -0500 H... does the *istD have a DOF preview button? Wouldn't be too hard to change the firmware to meter when it's pressed, and indicate that exposure. Or even to do stop-down metering in aperture priority mode. I remember

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Mat Maessen
H... does the *istD have a DOF preview button? Wouldn't be too hard to change the firmware to meter when it's pressed, and indicate that exposure. Or even to do stop-down metering in aperture priority mode. Pentax, you listening? -Mat Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: Roland Mabo wrote: If the lens

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Nick Zentena
On March 18, 2003 07:51 pm, Steve Desjardins wrote: > I got it. The problem was I was playing with an old m42 super tak set > on manual and it stops down when on the camera or not. I'll try an M > lens when I get home. Which might mean a 50 year old manual M42 lens will work just fine.

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Herb Chong
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 07:10 Subject: Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist > If the lens stops down, this would be correct but the lens does not stops > down on the *ist. Nothing happens when you set aperture on it, it's wide > opened at all aperture settings.

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Stefan Ittner
Roland wrote: > If the lens stops down, this would be correct but the lens does not stops > down on the *ist. Nothing happens when you set aperture on it, it's wide > opened at all aperture settings. Are you absolutely sure about this? From what Boz wrote, I concluded that the aperture DOES clo

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Roland Mabo
If the lens stops down, this would be correct but the lens does not stops down on the *ist. Nothing happens when you set aperture on it, it's wide opened at all aperture settings. Best wishes, Roland From: Stefan Ittner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:00:57 +0100 (MET) Now wouldn't

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-19 Thread Stefan Ittner
(Sorry if this message reaches you twice, but I wrote it _before_ actually subscribing to the list, so I'm not sure whether it was delivered at all.) Boz wrote: > Now think about it. The camera meters before the shot WHILE THE > APERTURE IS OPEN. While the image is being taken the aperture is

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-18 Thread Steve Desjardins
I got it. The problem was I was playing with an old m42 super tak set on manual and it stops down when on the camera or not. I'll try an M lens when I get home. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-18 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi Steve, see, I'm not gone yet... 3:-) > Stupid question. I've read that an M lens on the *ist will only > meter wide open. If the camera can't talk to the lens, how does > it know what wide open is? and if its reading the light coming > through the lens, why won't stopping down affect meteri

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-18 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi Roland, > I don't know how this is done, since when holding a lens in the > air and turning aperture - the aperture closes down. But on the > *ist, this does not happen. There is nothing special with the *ist. It's like this on any camera. If you REALLY want to know look at the KMP --> Techn

Re: Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-18 Thread Brendan
without the little lever, it won't stop down untill the shot is taken, IE won't know it's stopped down to know what to meter. --- Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stupid question. I've read that an M lens on the > *ist will only meter > wide open. If the camera can't talk to the len

Stupid question about M lens on *ist

2003-03-18 Thread Steve Desjardins
Stupid question. I've read that an M lens on the *ist will only meter wide open. If the camera can't talk to the lens, how does it know what wide open is? and if its reading the light coming through the lens, why won't stopping down affect metering? Probably an obvious answer, but I can't see it