On 2011-07-20 17:34 , Bob W wrote:
For me the essence of street photography, when it's good (which is very
rarely), is what my film teacher referred to as 'the poetry of everyday
life'. Kertesz, I think, talked about 'small moments'. Elliott Erwitt said
that good photography 'is about noticing
How do we alter the human condition for the better if we hide the
parts of the condition that can be improved on from the light of day?
William Robb
Has the human condition improved since the invention of photography or
worsened? Not making a correlation at all. Just food for thought.
I think it is worth mentioning that photojournalism can be
SIMULTANEOUSLY exploitation and exposé. Seeing it only as one or the
other is not seeing the whole picture.
I think of the famous photo of the people falling from the collapsing
fire escape of the burning building (one to their death).
On 11-07-20 12:36 PM, Bob W wrote:
The greatest artists know how to create a distance from their
subjects.
I read his statement as being about street photographers, not about artists
in general, although I may be wrong.
Any given statement about what art is or what artists do will receive an
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On 7/20/2011 11:57, Christine Aguila wrote:
Writers establish what's
On 20/07/2011 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I paid the guy five bucks to take his photo. He wasn't being taken advantage
of. He earned some money.
That you paid him, and that perhaps Shel didn't pay his subject (though
it's entirely possible that Shel bought him that coffee, and
On 7/21/2011 12:45, Christine Aguila wrote:
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On 7/20/2011 11:57, Christine
On 7/21/2011 12:59, William Robb wrote:
On 20/07/2011 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I paid the guy five bucks to take his photo. He wasn't being taken
advantage of. He earned some money.
That you paid him, and that perhaps Shel didn't pay his subject (though
it's entirely possible
On 21/07/2011 11:36 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
On 7/21/2011 12:59, William Robb wrote:
On 20/07/2011 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I paid the guy five bucks to take his photo. He wasn't being taken
advantage of. He earned some money.
That you paid him, and that perhaps Shel didn't pay
On 7/21/2011 14:05, William Robb wrote:
On 21/07/2011 11:36 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
On 7/21/2011 12:59, William Robb wrote:
On 20/07/2011 8:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I paid the guy five bucks to take his photo. He wasn't being taken
advantage of. He earned some money.
That you
I have no problem with your referencing my photo, and I don't think Shel's
photo is particularly cruel. Although I'm not fond of homeless pics in general.
They're easy. Like shooting fish in a barrel -- or shooting cats curled up on a
chair. No value judgement, but I've come to see pics of
How do we alter the human condition for the better if we hide the parts of
the condition that can be improved on from the light of day?
William Robb
Has the human condition improved since the invention of photography or
worsened? Not making a correlation at all. Just food for thought.
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On 21/07/2011 2:27 PM, Tom C wrote:
Has the human condition improved since the invention of photography or
worsened? Not making a correlation at all. Just food for thought.
Better, I think. We seem to live longer if allowed the opportunity to do so.
Of course, we have also found much more
On 7/21/2011 16:27, Tom C wrote:
How do we alter the human condition for the better if we hide the parts of the
condition that can be improved on from the light of day?
William Robb
Has the human condition improved since the invention of photography or
worsened? Not making a correlation at
Tom,
I do think photography has helped with our vision of distant situations.
It's easy to see the rung on the ladder just above us, and the one
just below us.
But it's harder to see many rungs below where things are more desperate.
We tend to organize our lives to avoid confronting these
Are talking on average or in small populations? More importantly is the
question weather Photography really had any effect, or if it was just
coincidental.
On 7/21/2011 4:27 PM, Tom C wrote:
How do we alter the human condition for the better if we hide the parts of the
condition that can be
On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
I have no problem with your referencing my photo, and I don't think Shel's
photo is particularly cruel. Although I'm not fond of homeless pics in
general. They're easy. Like shooting fish in a barrel -- or shooting cats
curled up on a
I won't mind if history proves me wrong! In what ways do you
disagree? I'd
be interested to hear your thoughts.
Well, probably more accurate to say, I don't know what my position is--
it's
just to early to tell.
that's what Chiang Kai Shek said about the French Revolution.
[...]
On 7/20/2011 04:22, Bob W wrote:
..
.
That's just an ad hominem attack by some internet know-it-all with a chip on
his shoulder. We should invite him onto the PDML.
..
Mark!
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On 7/20/2011 04:22, Bob W wrote:
I won't mind if history proves me wrong! In what ways do you
disagree? I'd
be interested to hear your thoughts.
Well, probably more accurate to say, I don't know what my position is--
it's
just to early to tell.
that's what Chiang Kai Shek said about the
I want to isolate one statement and ask a question, especially of the
list members grounded in fine arts:
On 11-07-19 11:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
From the Chicago Magazine article published earlier this year:
Colin Westerbeck, the former curator of photography at the Art
Institute of
on this as well. Thanks for
mentioning it, Bruce. Cheers, Christine
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I want
On 20/07/2011 9:14 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
The greatest artists know how to create a distance from their subjects.
Is this considered a fundamental truth, a given? Or is this merely one
man's (likely quite learned) opinion? Was old Leonardo truly distant
from his subject in the Mona Lisa
On 20/07/2011 9:34 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Getting in close can't be a new trend; I mean consider Robert Capa's
famous line--if you don't like your pictures, you're not close
enough--or something like that.
I suspect, in reality, he is talking about intellectual distance, not
Subject: Distance [was Re: V. Maier exhibition in London]
I want to isolate one statement and ask a question, especially of the list
members grounded in fine arts:
On 11-07-19 11:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
From the Chicago Magazine article published earlier this year:
Colin
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On 20/07/2011 9:34 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Getting in close
Don't be so hard on yourself, some of your images rise to mediocrity.
Sorry, I screwed up my knee and I'm in a small amount of pain
On 7/20/2011 11:50 AM, William Robb wrote:
On 20/07/2011 9:34 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Getting in close can't be a new trend; I mean consider Robert
That line has been like a burr under the saddle for a lot of
photography aficionados.
From a commenter on this page: http://blog.kevinmoloney.com/?p=775
{
“The greatest artists, Westerbeck says, know how to create a distance
from their subjects.”
Lets hope that Mr. Westerbeck gets a chance
Writers establish what's called psychological distance between the work
and
the reader primarily through point of view (language itself can
contribute
to this)--1st, 2nd, 3rd person pov, and all the shades thereof.
Through
what photographic technique does a photographer minimize or
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I want to isolate one statement and ask a question, especially of the list
members grounded in fine arts:
On 11-07-19 11:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Bruce Walker
I want to isolate one statement and ask a question, especially of the
list members grounded in fine arts:
The greatest artists know how to create a distance from their
subjects.
Is this considered a
On 20/07/2011 10:07 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Don't be so hard on yourself, some of your images rise to mediocrity.
Sorry, I screwed up my knee and I'm in a small amount of pain
I'm sorry to hear that Peter. I see it is affecting you on more than one
level. You have never justified dissing
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I wonder if Westerbeck hasn't kind of painted himself into an intellectual
corner v Maier
On 20/07/2011 9:57 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
I suspect, in reality, he is talking about intellectual distance, not
physical distance, which is what Capa was talking about (and probably
what got him killed).
I find if I am not at least somewhat intellectually connected to my
subject, my
On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
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Paul Stenquist
Writers establish what's called psychological distance between the
work and the reader primarily through point of view (language itself
can contribute to this)--1st, 2nd, 3rd person pov, and all the
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On 20/07/2011 9:57 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
I suspect
I should have brought this to the table sooner--sorry about that, but--
I wonder if Westerbrook's comments in the Chicago mag article are really
best understood in the context of his chapter, The Chicago School, in his
book, Bystander, where he explains the Bauhaus movement--coming out of the
On 7/20/2011 12:36, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Bruce Walker
I want to isolate one statement and ask a question, especially of the
list members grounded in fine arts:
The greatest artists know how to create a distance from their
On 7/20/2011 11:57, Christine Aguila wrote:
Writers establish what's called psychological distance between the work
and the reader primarily through point of view (language itself can
contribute to this)--1st, 2nd, 3rd person pov, and all the shades
thereof. Through what photographic
Don't be so hard on yourself, some of your images rise to mediocrity.
MARK !
Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
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Subject: Re: Distance [was Re: V. Maier exhibition in London]
Don't be so
I absolutely love Harry Callahan's picture Alley, which you can see
here.
http://www.geh.org/ne/str085/htmlsrc9/m198111310002_ful.html To me,
this
is s Chicago! I love it. To my eye he, has used the *photographic
technique* of multiples--multiple printing- to great effect. What
write what you know was the mantra I grew up with... so it was
the opposite of intellectual distance.
but in order to write what you know, or at least to write it successfully so
that other people can actually read it, you have to put some distance
between yourself as a writer, and whatever
On 20/07/2011 2:02 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Like Christine , I feel uncomfortable shooting the unfortunate and while
that photo of Shel's is powerful it is also maudlin (skipping around to
referencing other posts here - sorry) and cruel.
I'm going to challenge you on that one Ann. Lets
On 7/20/2011 19:34, Bob W wrote:
write what you know was the mantra I grew up with... so it was
the opposite of intellectual distance.
but in order to write what you know, or at least to write it successfully so
that other people can actually read it, you have to put some distance
between
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 05:50:45PM -0600, William Robb wrote:
On 20/07/2011 2:02 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Like Christine , I feel uncomfortable shooting the unfortunate and while
that photo of Shel's is powerful it is also maudlin (skipping around to
referencing other posts here - sorry)
On 7/20/2011 19:50, William Robb wrote:
On 20/07/2011 2:02 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Like Christine , I feel uncomfortable shooting the unfortunate and while
that photo of Shel's is powerful it is also maudlin (skipping around to
referencing other posts here - sorry) and cruel.
I'm
On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
On 7/20/2011 19:50, William Robb wrote:
On 20/07/2011 2:02 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Like Christine , I feel uncomfortable shooting the unfortunate and while
that photo of Shel's is powerful it is also maudlin (skipping around to
-
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Of
Christine Aguila
To all our British PDMLers: Check
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Interesting
the
exhibition space was wonderful. Cheers, Christine
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Christine Aguila
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by you
guys!
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/diary/vivian-maier-a-life-
uncovered
P.S. How about a report for the list from
On 7/17/2011 13:01, Bob W wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Christine Aguila
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by you
guys!
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/diary/vivian-maier-a-life-
uncovered
P.S. How
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Christine Aguila
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by you
guys!
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To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by you
guys!
Cheers, Christine
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/diary/vivian-maier-a-life-
uncovered
P.S. How about a report for the list from one of you guys!?!
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On 15 July 2011 05:39, Christine Aguila wrote:
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by you
guys!
Cheers, Christine
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/diary/vivian-maier-a-life-
uncovered
P.S. How about a report for the list from one of you guys!?!
On 15 July 2011 05:39, Christine Aguila wrote:
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by
you
guys!
Cheers, Christine
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/diary/vivian-maier-a-
life-
uncovered
P.S. How about a report for the list from one of
On 15 July 2011 08:21, Bob W wrote:
On 15 July 2011 05:39, Christine Aguila wrote:
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by
you
guys!
Cheers, Christine
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/diary/vivian-maier-a-
life-
uncovered
P.S. How
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by you guys!
Cheers, Christine
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/diary/vivian-maier-a-life-uncovered
P.S. How about a report for the list from one of you guys!?!
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To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:39 PM
Subject: V. Maier exhibition in London
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by you guys!
Cheers, Christine
http
On 15 July 2011 05:39, Christine Aguila wrote:
To all our British PDMLers: Check this out: Vivian Maier is by you guys!
Cheers, Christine
http://londonstreetphotographyfestival.org/diary/vivian-maier-a-life-uncovered
P.S. How about a report for the list from one of you guys!?!
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