it up and handle the slowness of the 12-24mm...
hm, decisions, decisions.
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Subject: Re: wide angle zoom
With the k5, the 12-24 won't be too slow, because you'll be gaining a minimum
of two stops of upward ISO latitude over the K-7. That said, Adam has a very
high opinion of the Sigma lense. I don't have much confidence in Sigma quality,
but it might be worth giving this one a try.
Paul
On Nov 23,
That would be the Sigma lens.
On Nov 24, 2010, at 7:01 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
With the k5, the 12-24 won't be too slow, because you'll be gaining a minimum
of two stops of upward ISO latitude over the K-7. That said, Adam has a very
high opinion of the Sigma lense. I don't have much
Tanya Love wrote:
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast
enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your
words of wisdom in regards to comparing these:
1. Sigma
I plan to look into repair. I've also realized that a cheap 18-55 might be
useful as well.
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I can
Robert White (England) used to sell Voigtlander stuff below the US prices, and
I bought quite a bit of stuff from him for a few years. I know that shipping
to/from US/AUS can be prohibitive, are there also VAT issues? I once thought
of buying an Epiphone guitar from Australia (a discontinued
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast
enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your
words of wisdom in regards to comparing these:
1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8
I vote for #2, and I don't even have it.
Jeffery
On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast
enough, and optically, could be better too.
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So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages
I do and it is a great lens, only nit is some CA I'm seeing
HTH Ecke
2010/11/24 Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net:
I vote for #2, and I don't even have it.
Jeffery
On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating
Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is that
the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the 18-55 for
when you need a bit longer. Later when you sell another catalog or two you can
upgrade the 18-55 to a 16-50. If you get the 16-50 now,
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast
enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your
Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no
structures tall enough from which to defenestrate myself.
-- Walt
On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit
Not a problem in the South. You just have to go through the window INTO a
house, and the owner shoots you.
Jeffery
On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures
tall enough from which to defenestrate myself.
'Round here, they'd just assume I was drunk and give me a ride
home. It's a vicious cycle.
-- Walt
On 11/23/2010 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
Not a problem in the South. You just have to go through the window INTO a
house, and the owner shoots you.
Jeffery
On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:29
What Stan said. The 12-24 is probably the best choice for you at the present
time.
Paul
On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is
that the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the 18-55
for
On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast
enough, and optically,
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:44 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages and
I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really
seem to have three different classes of lens based on AOV. A Wide to
Normal, a wider to telephoto and two ultra wides. Right now I only have
the equivalent of the Wide to Normal, (Pentax FA 20-35mm), most times I
don't find
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Subject: Re: wide angle zoom comparison...
I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really
seem to have three different classes of lens based on AOV. A Wide to
Normal, a wider to telephoto and two ultra wides. Right now I only have
the equivalent of the Wide
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I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really
seem to have three different
Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite
varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and
the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking
that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely
The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under?
Jeffery
On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite
varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and
the speed (and of course
That's really not an either or choice there. Those are complementary
lenses. The difference in AOV between the minimum focal lengths will be
huge. 109.5° at 10mm vs 83° at 16mm (measured diagonally but you get
the idea). So the answer is you should get them both. Now, isn't that
easier?
If you are looking for something wider than the kit lens (18mm) then I
don't know how a 16mm even qualifies. I have the Sigma 10-20mm
f4.5-5.6 and love it.
Shots with the 10-20mm (both models): http://www.flickr.com/groups/sigma10-20/
A few more here:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:54 -0600, Jeffery Smith
jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote:
The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under?
Tan is.
The interesting thing about prices down under is that, although the $A
has been approaching or at parity with the $US in recent months, lens
prices have
Stan Halpin wrote:
Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is
that the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the
18-55 for when you need a bit longer. Later when you sell another catalog
or two you can upgrade the 18-55 to a 16-50. If you
Tanya, there is also Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 EX that has some acclaim.
On 11/24/2010 3:10 AM, Tanya Love wrote:
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on
it for ages and making do with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast
enough, and optically, could be better
On 11/24/2010 4:44 AM, paul stenquist wrote:
Have you actually tried both? I did a quick and dirty test of the
Sigma and found it seriously lacking. LIke most Sigma's it's build
quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Pentax 12-24, on the other
hand, is an excellent lens.
Paul
Paul, I've
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