Re: Grand Prix K10D?

2007-09-27 Thread Peter Fairweather
Good point!! I'll let you know how it's done when I've got the back open. On 26/09/2007, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Winder! Man, I didn't know I could load film into the d camera! BTW the extra batteri unit is excellent. It's great to have two batteries - at leas one of them

RE: Organizational Software

2007-09-27 Thread Bob W
Lightroom can do all that quite easily. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: 26 September 2007 23:50 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Organizational Software My wife is getting serious about trying

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Bob W
Cotty has always striven to be the least competitive person. If he finds someone less competitive than himself, he works and works, and trains and trains until he is less competitive than the other person. He can't stand it if someone is less competitive than himself. -- Bob -Original

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty has always striven to be the least competitive person. If he finds someone less competitive than himself, he works and works, and trains and trains until he is less competitive than the other person. He can't stand it if someone is less

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: I really thought that you were rather competitive person, Cotty. I am fairly competitive, but in photography I don't feel any desire to prove anything. So I don't really participate in competitions... My competitive side extends solely

Question about FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 IF, Tamron vs. Pentax

2007-09-27 Thread David Bliss
Hi All, I had the SMC-P version of this lens on my K10D when it decided it would rather bounce off the concrete floor than stay in my hand. I replaced it with the Tamron version (got a good price on it, and couldn't find the SMC-P variant anywhere). But I am finding (based on my first few test

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread mike wilson
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 09:44:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times Why is it so interesting? I see nothing that makes any difference to anyone but a few folks who want to be taken for

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread mike wilson
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/27 Thu AM 03:24:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Gonz wrote: Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare. wabbit

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Rebekah
Frank, I think your photographs are beautiful. Screw the gallery. rg2 On 9/27/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/27 Thu AM 03:24:42 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

Re: OT Decisions made

2007-09-27 Thread David J Brooks
On 9/26/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but in the end you won't respect yourself. You'll find out the money is not worth it... Norm So you'v been an escort to then.:-) Dave David J Brooks wrote: And your point is.. Dave On 9/26/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
If you read the article a quote from the photographer about a fuse would imply at least some were exploding shells, Doug Franklin wrote: Tom C wrote: To your question... Where then are the craters from the canon balls that must have landed *off* the road, in the likely softer soil? I

Re: Grand Prix K10D?

2007-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
A band saw will probably help you in that endeavor. Peter Fairweather wrote: Good point!! I'll let you know how it's done when I've got the back open. On 26/09/2007, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Winder! Man, I didn't know I could load film into the d camera! BTW the extra

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
For some the world began the day they were born and will end the day they die, and has always been as it is. mike wilson wrote: From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/26 Wed PM 09:44:39 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: But. I love the comment near the bottom referring to removal because of commanders not wanting their tanks to run over cannon balls. Tanks? In the Crimean war? Surely the fighter-bombers would have taken them out easily? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Grand Prix K10D?

2007-09-27 Thread David Savage
A hammer cold chisel would be more entertaining. Cheers, Dave On 9/27/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A band saw will probably help you in that endeavor. Peter Fairweather wrote: Good point!! I'll let you know how it's done when I've got the back open. On 26/09/2007, Jens

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly pointless. snip I agree 100%! Funny thing is, I didn't see The Pentax Gallery as a competition. I thought that as long as the photos met a minimum standard, they were in, and it would be a

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
No way it could be stated any better, Frank. Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a handy explanation..if needed. When 'proven' laudable work is summarily declined, incentive wanes. Jack --- frank theriault

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
I can just about understand the need for people to want to belong to something they believe in, or would like to be a part of, but anything that by nature is exclusive does not get my support or interest. Cheers, Cotty 2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow,

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
What's *hard* to imagine about Pentax? Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT) No way it could be stated any better,

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread cbwaters
Tom, what time is this meet... I have a production rehearsal at 7 PM EST...so with the travel time to the U.K it's going to tighten up my day considerably... - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:55 AM Subject:

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread mike wilson
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/27 Thu PM 12:04:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times mike wilson wrote: But. I love the comment near the bottom referring to removal because of commanders not

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Fascinating (in Mr Spock of Vulcan way)... I tend to agree with you on most of the sentiments you expressed. In fact, I kind of thought it would be competitive (the Pentax gallery thingie) from the start. Given the fact that the submitted work is filtered by someone else immediately implies

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
LOL Cory. :-) Tom C. From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:09:46 -0400 Tom, what time is this meet... I have a production rehearsal at 7

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: ann sanfedele Gonz wrote: Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare. wabbit A wascally wabbit? he-he-e-e-e -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

RE: Developer Turned Black [Was: Sad state of Photo Stores]

2007-09-27 Thread Anthony Farr
The cheapest preservative is your own exhaled breath. Just hold your breath for about 10 seconds to get a higher level of CO2, and then slowly exhale as much as you can into the bottle. The longer you exhale the richer the CO2 concentration will be. CO2 is heavier than oxygen, so as long as the

Re: Travel Lenses

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Boris Liberman FWIW, if going on travel and forced to take just one lens, it would be Tamron 28-75/2.8 for me. If not limited to just one lens I'd probably take three limiteds and a wide zoom. Cheers! The time I was forced to travel light recently, I carried a 28-70 f/2.8

Re: Travel Lenses

2007-09-27 Thread Evan Hanson
I would probably go with primes, a 24, a 43, and a 77 or 135. Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:09 AM, Cotty wrote: My competitive side extends solely to my professional life. Needs must. Beyond that, I'm not a keen advocate of the 'I am better than you and I would like it personally vindicated' philosophy. Actually I see any photographic competition as

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation No way it could be stated any better, Frank. Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a handy explanation..if needed. When

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C I thought it was an interesting study in human nature, photography aside. We make assumptions and draw conclusions from what we see, or we parrot what we hear or read, and make statements as if they are indisputable, yet thinking a little harder... To your question... Where

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling If you read the article a quote from the photographer about a fuse would imply at least some were exploding shells, Some, but not all, ... and exploding shells of that day often did not explode (or exploded too soon). Fused shells were not reliable. For one thing, there

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault n 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly pointless. snip I agree 100%! Unless the prize for the winning photograph is worth having. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
Well I guess, my problem is that I consider news photos as editorial illustrations, not some super meaningful documentation. Strangely without captions those particular photos have no particular meaning at all, a dirt road somewhere with a bunch of round stones. The are called critics because

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread P. J. Alling
My point was that those that hadn't exploded wouldn't and would still look like solid shot. The would weigh considerably less than solid shot and would be even less likely than solid shot to create craters at the end of their flight.. Historically Russian shells were notoriously unreliable.

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
Well, Robb, I'm not surprised that it's being viewed as a competition. If one chooses to consider the accepted image count as a 'score' against which one is competing, then it's a competition. Your choice. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From:

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread Norm Baugher
Not to mention the fact that he was scared as hell because he was under fire. It's illogical that he would go around picking up heavy solid shot to arrange a photo shoot. Norm John Sessoms wrote: I think the most likely explanation is the photograph of the cleared road is the later one.

Re: Question about FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 IF, Tamron vs. Pentax

2007-09-27 Thread npx
I've tried both versions, as well as a Promaster-branded version, and found the Pentax to be sharper as well. I'm fairly certain the primary difference is the coatings, since the Tamron rep hinted at that when I asked him about this very lens a few years ago. It could also be you ended up

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: (I really shouldn't have written that. Now Cotty will have the horn again.) Those sentences give me the horn. (Might get my Derek and Clive DVD out tonight ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: 2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow, blocking the door so you can't get in and quaff your thirst with a pint. Then we'll see how you feel about exclusive. ;-) Har!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean you aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the competition are such that you are competing against a standard. Question: how subjective is this standard? --

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Tom, what time is this meet... I have a production rehearsal at 7 PM EST...so with the travel time to the U.K it's going to tighten up my day considerably... Ceeb I think you'd like it over here. Ever been? We could show you a pretty nice

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
Actually, I consider I'm just vying for a favorable subjective opinion from da 'judge'. Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean you aren't competing, it just means

Re: Organizational Software

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lightroom does all this quite easily. G BD:: My wife is getting serious about trying to organize all our photos. I have most of them scanned and the past several years have all been digital. So on the plus side, we can work in one medium for the moment. She would like to organize images

Re: Grand Prix K10D?

2007-09-27 Thread Peter Fairweather
Might leave the back alone. It took me 5 minutes to work out how to insert the SD card and that included reading the manual. The camera seems fine but it does feel bulky after the DS. Tomorrow I might even try taking a few pictures. I used to do a lot of that before I contract LBA from internet

Re: Thinking of AF280T flash

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
All way too complicated. Gimme a manual flash and a flash meter. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Thinking of AF280T flash

2007-09-27 Thread Axel Belinfante
William Robb replied to my remark: I guess the bottom line is that dedicated by itself is an empty phrase. dedicated is not an absolute notion, but a relative one. it is relative to a (family) of camera body(s). Dedicated is an absolute term, and means that the flash will

Re: Travel Lenses

2007-09-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
A man after my own heart. As much as I am a fan of primes, on this trip my wife and I were with 10 college students and my job was not to take pictures. The zoom is just more effective as a photographic tool and, honestly, I find the results very acceptable. I do note, however, that the FA

Re: Organizational Software

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
My wife is getting serious about trying to organize all our photos. I have most of them scanned and the past several years have all been digital. So on the plus side, we can work in one medium for the moment. She would like to organize images by child, by event, by date, etc. Then

Re: Developer Turned Black [Was: Sad state of Photo Stores]

2007-09-27 Thread Bob Blakely
Ah ha! Just like the spouts on bar bottles of Jack Daniel's! Regards, Bob... Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection. -Jean Luc Godard - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL

Re: Thinking of AF280T flash

2007-09-27 Thread Axel Belinfante
All way too complicated. Gimme a manual flash and a flash meter. ;-) :-) I really, really, really like the aperrant simplicity of ttl flash - the protocol is dead simple -- start, stop -- and all funky computations/ settings can happen in the camera, flash needs to know nothing. I'm really,

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow, blocking the door so you can't get in and quaff your thirst with a pint. Tom C. You buying ? Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax

PESO ... A Rose by Any Other Name...

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
Outside a Florist's shop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6468680 Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread pnstenquist
It's a personal competition, but you're not competing against others. For the accepted image count to be a score, everyone would have to make the same number of submissions. I recall one PDML member saying he was submitting between five and ten shots every day. That obviously will skew the

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean you aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the competition are such that you are competing against a standard. Question: how subjective is this

RE: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread Bob W
Well I guess, my problem is that I consider news photos as editorial illustrations, not some super meaningful documentation. Yes, I can see how that would be a problem and lead you into all sorts of difficulties. Strangely without captions those particular photos have no particular

Re: PESO ... A Rose by Any Other Name...

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: Outside a Florist's shop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6468680 Going all Godfrey on us, eh? Nice work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
..or a holler!! ;) Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a personal competition, but you're not competing against others. For the accepted image count to be a score, everyone would have to make the same number of submissions. I recall one PDML member saying he was submitting between five

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
I agree. If acceptance is left purely to a judging panel, then we can expect the regular subjectivity. If it's based on a general vote of others, then it's also suspect, as the general public doesn't know hooey about good photography. I'd like to know the qualifications of the judges,

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
You're right, it isn't. You might look at it from the standpoint of a vocal 'artist' who looks for applause when she stops singing. Approval can be intoxicating. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Just because

Re: PESO ... A Rose by Any Other Name...

2007-09-27 Thread Rebekah
Lovely :o) rg2 On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom C wrote: Outside a Florist's shop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6468680 Going all Godfrey on us, eh? Nice work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: how subjective is this standard? Same as all competitions: Very. Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because, unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target (acceptance into the Gallery,

Re: PESO ... A Rose by Any Other Name...

2007-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Outside a Florist's shop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6468680 Tom C. Love it! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: On 27/09/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: (I really shouldn't have written that. Now Cotty will have the horn again.) Those sentences give me the horn. (Might get my Derek and Clive DVD out tonight ;-) Lobster for tea. Or maybe not. -- PDML

Re: Chicken or Egg Photo Story - NY Times

2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
They were most likely spent solid round shot, sort of like cast iron bowling balls. They hit the ground and then roll and bounce a long way until the come to a stop. They were designed to do that as the bouncing balls played havoc with massed troops. So Tom is correct in thinking many would wind

Re: Developer Turned Black [Was: Sad state of Photo Stores]

2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
Har!!! Scott Loveless wrote: Marbles. P. J. Alling wrote: Falcon air evac bottles. 1/2 gallon http://tinyurl.com/2kctld full gallon http://tinyurl.com/399yud Bob Blakely wrote: It would be nice if the bottles had bladders so that they could be capped half used without any air to

Re: Developer Turned Black [Was: Sad state of Photo Stores]

2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
That was not a problem until you go near the bottom of the bottle, then you just used a finger to partially block the mouth. Marbles were the standard thing back in the 1950's. Bob Blakely wrote: Ingenious, but what do you do about the marbles trying to run out with the developer when you

Re: PESO ... A Rose by Any Other Name...

2007-09-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 27, 2007, at 14:51, Mark Roberts wrote: Tom C wrote: Outside a Florist's shop. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6468680 Going all Godfrey on us, eh? Nice work. Was my first thought too. Then I wondered why the photo was sideways until I realized it was probably a brick

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote: I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? And it's a moving target, to boot. You never know who may be voting on your photo at any given time. Subjective is one thing. Variably

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
Subjective is one thing. Variably subjective is irritating at best. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ ... said the married man... Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
Pooka Gonz wrote: Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare. On 9/26/07, Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank, didn't you read the fine print? In Title 9, section 4, paragraph 110, Item b) : No work shall be accepted from the class

Re: Organizational Software

2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
That is always the problem with databases. BTW, Adobe bridge can attach all kinds of info and catagories to your photos, but it does still have the problem that you have to enter the info and select the catagories. Boris Liberman wrote: I think LightRoom can do most if not all that you

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Bob W
How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and to guide the arrow into his heart, as the heron's beak enters the stream. For are they not one, the archer, the

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
USE THE FORCE, FRANK. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:07:05 +0100 How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pooka Just like Harvey... :-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: Not PESO: Fish-eye falcon

2007-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/26/07, Margus Männik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, it's shot with Sony Alpha camera and Sony 16mm lens last weekend. Writing a book about Alpha system and therefore haven't had much time to shoot with Pentax gear last times... OTOH - I have had almost all Sony lenses to play with last

Camera Leather

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On topic for a change! Interesting site - have a look: http://www.cameraleather.com/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread John Francis
Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? As far as the Pentax Gallery goes - I didn't submit originally for a couple of reasons; my first attempt didn't work (because I was trying to

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because, unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target (acceptance into the Gallery, in this case). I may not agree with their choices, but teaching myself (or

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? There's no explanation as to the criteria to get past the accepted artists' voting: How many votes are

Re: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and to guide the arrow into his heart, as the heron's beak enters the stream. For are they not one,

Re: Camera Leather

2007-09-27 Thread Scott Loveless
Cotty wrote: On topic for a change! Interesting site - have a look: http://www.cameraleather.com/ Ugh. I really like their stuff. And so does Cesar, apparently. Since getting the 645 I thought it would look rather dashing in some new clothes, like the Hassy 501 cameras in the special

Re: Camera Leather

2007-09-27 Thread Rebekah
cool, but I didn't see any purple flame designs. Count me out. ;) rg2 On 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On topic for a change! Interesting site - have a look: http://www.cameraleather.com/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: Thinking of AF280T flash

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Axel Belinfante wrote: All way too complicated. Gimme a manual flash and a flash meter. ;-) I really, really, really like the aperrant simplicity of ttl flash - the protocol is dead simple -- start, stop -- and all funky computations/ settings can happen in

Re: Thinking of AF280T flash

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: All way too complicated. Gimme a manual flash and a flash meter. ;-) I absolutely LOATHE flash. But it also can produce some wonderful results. So I let the flash do all the work. Top of the range Canon 580EX that is a computer with a

Re: butts

2007-09-27 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 03:43:38PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 27, 2007, at 3:09 PM, John Francis wrote: Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? I knew that they

Re: Travel Lenses

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I agree with you about the FA20-35: it effectively replaced my A24, A28 and A35 lenses, as well as the DA16-45. The 21 and 43 Limiteds go beyond it, however. For the situation you mention, I would take the Panasonic L1 with its Leica 14-50/2.8-3.5 lens now. That lens is just about on par

Re: butts

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 27, 2007, at 3:09 PM, John Francis wrote: Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? I knew that they were, but I still don't know why. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
Mercy that's deep. Jack --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and to guide the arrow into his heart, as the

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
Subjective is one thing. Variably subjective is irritating at best. Every photo contest I've ever entered had variable subjectivity IMO Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation frank

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
...after hearing of all the various problems others are having, I doubt if I'll bother to submit anything (and I *still* haven't written a bio). I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into the Premiere Gallery. I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of

Re: Thinking of AF280T flash

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 27, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Cotty wrote: On 27/09/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: All way too complicated. Gimme a manual flash and a flash meter. ;-) I absolutely LOATHE flash. But it also can produce some wonderful results. So I let the flash do all the work. Top of

Re: Question about FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 IF, Tamron vs. Pentax

2007-09-27 Thread Joseph Tainter
I had the SMC-P version of this lens on my K10D when it decided it would rather bounce off the concrete floor than stay in my hand. I replaced it with the Tamron version (got a good price on it, and couldn't find the SMC-P variant anywhere). But I am finding (based on my first few test

using a Pentax 17mm fish eye on 4/3 System and Pentax DSLR

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've been using a friend's Pentax 17mm Fish Eye for the past week or so. It's a damn good performer, and I find it a near perfect match for the L1 body (fitted with an adapter of course). Funny, I like it even more than the rectilinear Nikon 20mm lens I was using on the L1 before this... !

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into the Premiere Gallery. I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of people the response I get back from most of them is that are really impressed with the overall manner in

Re: Question about FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 IF, Tamron vs. Pentax

2007-09-27 Thread David Savage
At 09:54 AM 28/09/2007, Joseph Tainter wrote: Pentax rebranded a 28-105 from Tamron. It was reportedly inferior to the (then current) FA Power Zoom 28-105 F4-5.6. That one was a lovely zoom lens. If you can find a used one of those, I would get it. I ditto the above. IMO it is a great lens

Re: Developer Turned Black [Was: Sad state of Photo Stores]

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Cassino
I keep half gallon, 1 quart, and 1 pint bottles on hand. You can juggle things around so that only one of the pint bottles is partially full. If that turns, it's a small loss. Tried the marble thing - it was a PITA. Rodinal seems to keep forever, and HC110 goes from lager yellow to ale tan, but

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread David Savage
On 9/28/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crap-shoot. Going off topic. This phrase always brings to mind Mambo t-shirts the artwork of Reg Mombassa. Carry on. Cheers, Dave (I don't think non-Aussies will get the connection) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
..especially kind people. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into the Premiere Gallery. I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of people the response I get back

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Brian Walters
I agree with Mark on this. For all of its faults, the Pentax Gallery has given my photography a bit more focus (pun not intended). I'm not necessarily taking photos specifically aimed at being accepted (because most aren't) but I find I'm taking more care about composition and lighting and

Re: Question about FA 28-105 f/4-5.6 IF, Tamron vs. Pentax

2007-09-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 27, 2007, at 20:54, Joseph Tainter wrote: Pentax rebranded a 28-105 from Tamron. It was reportedly inferior to the (then current) FA Power Zoom 28-105 F4-5.6. That one was a lovely zoom lens. I had one of those, and it completely sucked. Bad contrast, bad sharpness, yuck. I was

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