Re: PESO: Birthday Cake
Do you turn into a gremlin if fed after midnight? :) Despite the late night I didn't sleep well, possibly due to the licking of spoons when I'd finished with the coloured coatings. It's very sugary. I also sampled some of the sponge cake offcuts along the way... ah the pleasures of baking :D Cheers, Dave On Nov 27, 2013, at 6:44 pm, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: It's adorable! but now I'm hungry and its after midnight ann On 11/26/2013 15:37, David Mann wrote: I was up until 11:30 last night making this cake for my wife's birthday :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/710/#peso Here it is with candles lit... http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/711/#peso I'd like to have used more pieces but that would have needed a lot more cake. Cutting the pieces smaller would have been a bit fiddly to cut and probably make them too fragile to coat. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Birthday Cake
On 27 Nov 2013, at 04:13, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:42 pm, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I get that it's a Tetris cake, but is there any specific meaning to that fact that I'm missing? Nope, just a Tetris cake :) Nothing is ever 'just' something. The cake is a 3-dimensional simulacrum of something which only exists as an idea, embodied in 2 dimensions (if the virtual domain can be said to be dimensional). The contradiction is that the signifier is somehow more real than the signified, so that the inherent paradox of the sugary comestible becomes itself a double signifier, equally of meta-meaning in late postmodernism, and of the love you have for your wife, which embodies the courtly ideal. Tetris, of course, is a game of joining and of construction, which relies on the player being able to respond to randomness and from it construct meaning despite the difficulties. It is a kind of bricolage, making do with what life has dealt you, to construct as best you can what is, essentially, an idea. This quite unequivocally symbolises marriage, and by baking a Tetris cake rather than say a Battenberg, you have particularised the mathematical generic metanarrative, moving from the signifying domain to the realm of the signifier. It's too obvious for me to point out that the photograph is a 3rd-order signifier, and this email is one step beyond. Now, if you'd baked a cigar cake, well, that would have been just a cigar. Anyway, whatever else you do, don't leave the cake out in the rain. Bobrillard -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Jesse and Moto (nsfw)
I have a superb book called The Way of the Japanese Bath, by Mark Edward Harris. Well worth buying if you can find a copy. Otherwise have a look at some of the pictures on Google. On 27 Nov 2013, at 02:02, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't the Japanese have that communal bathing thing? That probably affects how they perceive public nudity. On 11/25/2013 10:42 PM, knarf wrote: Only happens occasionally. And for some reason Japanese messengers do it more than others. And Boston messengers too. Don't know why. I have one more. Will likely post in a day or two. Must address the imbalance. ;-) Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 165 - GDG
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: Not my usual kind of photo, but I was up early this morning, doing something in the kitchen, and all of a sudden there was a light as if the buildings across the way had been lit on fire. I figured I should take a snap and find it interesting … http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11076556733/ The moment only lasted about 90 seconds or so, but that old star lit it up nice out there. Thanks for looking. Very nice! I've seen the most intense sunsets in stormy weather when the sun illuminated the clouds from beneath, and the dust in the atmosphere intensified the red and orange glow. But it lasts only a few seconds. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - A nod to mr. Rowell
http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/a-nod-to-mr-rowell.html As a warning to the sensitive, this contains both nude rocks and a digitally compressed tonemap. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A nod to mr. Rowell
On 27/11/13, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/a-nod-to-mr-rowell.html As a warning to the sensitive, this contains both nude rocks and a digitally compressed tonemap. Insert superlative here. Wonderful. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Birthday Cake
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Nothing is ever 'just' something. The cake is a 3-dimensional simulacrum of something which only exists as an idea, embodied in 2 dimensions (if the virtual domain can be said to be dimensional). The contradiction is that the signifier is somehow more real than the signified, so that the inherent paradox of the sugary comestible becomes itself a double signifier, equally of meta-meaning in late postmodernism, and of the love you have for your wife, which embodies the courtly ideal. Tetris, of course, is a game of joining and of construction, which relies on the player being able to respond to randomness and from it construct meaning despite the difficulties. It is a kind of bricolage, making do with what life has dealt you, to construct as best you can what is, essentially, an idea. This quite unequivocally symbolises marriage, and by baking a Tetris cake rather than say a Battenberg, you have particularised the mathematical generic metanarrative, moving from the signifying domain to the realm of the signifier. It's too obvious for me to point out that the photograph is a 3rd-order signifier, and this email is one step beyond. Now, if you'd baked a cigar cake, well, that would have been just a cigar. Anyway, whatever else you do, don't leave the cake out in the rain. Bobrillard Your philosophical treatise of the subject matter goes beyond cake and eating:) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Eye contact
I made a Blurb. There are probably a few more adjustments before I order, but this is essentially what it will look like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/eyecontact/index.html Much regret missing the TA discussion. I had some thoughts along that subject while putting this together, and if some semi-cogent words form, I'll add my farthings worth. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bicycle racers from a couple of years ago
I'm the farthest from a MAMIL, yet this shot gets me on many levels. Gorgeous On 26/11/2013 1:58 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d905610sq.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
This could be a sensible contribution to the debate. How to shoot the naked body (male and female, especially the latter) with great taste and creativity. I'd say, look at nature and add your touch: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/man_and_woman.html Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Modesty (nsfw)
I always look at your courier-on-bike shots, but haven't really commented. Skilled, and enjoyable, but I wanted to see their personality besides their speed on bikes. This shot, and the previous Jesse and Moto take it up a level. Too good. On 27/11/2013 10:56 AM, knarf wrote: More messenger follies: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/11/modestly.html?m=1 Balancing, balancing... ;-) Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
cheap batteries
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300700521479?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984. m1438.l2649 Just in case anyone besides me is looking at getting some. (I ended up buying elsewhere, but this seller just had a good sale today.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A nod to mr. Rowell
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/a-nod-to-mr-rowell.html As a warning to the sensitive, this contains both nude rocks and a digitally compressed tonemap. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A nod to mr. Rowell
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/a-nod-to-mr-rowell.html As a warning to the sensitive, this contains both nude rocks and a digitally compressed tonemap. That is beautiful! Don't know what you have compressed, it looks perfectly natural to me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Brooklyn Diner
Thanks, Paul. Yup, 57th. Rick On Nov 26, 2013, at 22:59 , Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice shot. Is it on 57th? I think it was a Chinese restaurant when I worked at Hearst. I recognize the stairs on the foreground. Paul via phone On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, Dan! Several people walked by, but she fit my concept the best. (I didn't eat there either). Rick On Nov 26, 2013, at 22:15 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Ah, yes; the Finer Diner. I know it well, and have photographed it a number of times, although I have never eaten there. I like your image a lot. I think the woman in the foreground is well positioned, and adds quite a bit of interest to the scene. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: It's in Manhattan. Wanna make sumpin' of it? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597035size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
Very sensible contribution. I enjoyed his work, Dario. But I must admit to a strong feeling of unease at his series of nude self-portraits with female models. He's walking a very thin tightrope there, arguably one (mis-)step removed from Terry Richardson. I do now fully understand how the photographer/model relationship is based on trust and intent. If both parties agree on boundaries and establish trust, then the session will be creative and enjoyable. But even still there could be doubts in the minds of outside observers -- after all, they aren't privy to the intents or established boundaries. I think that a lot of people would accuse Mr. Minkkinen of having worked a very clever scheme to get nude models to let him touch them, very high on the list of model no-no's. Oh dear, my inner prude is showing. :-) On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: This could be a sensible contribution to the debate. How to shoot the naked body (male and female, especially the latter) with great taste and creativity. I'd say, look at nature and add your touch: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/man_and_woman.html Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eye contact
What a marvelous and delightful book, Derby! That shot on pg 56 is my fave, but every page is simply terrific. I really like your choice of a spare, white layout. It most resembles my favourite photo books and I'm beginning to see why that works so well. Ya done good! :-) And I'm looking forward to your comments on the TA thread. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I made a Blurb. There are probably a few more adjustments before I order, but this is essentially what it will look like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/eyecontact/index.html Much regret missing the TA discussion. I had some thoughts along that subject while putting this together, and if some semi-cogent words form, I'll add my farthings worth. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
Hi Bruce. I didn't (and don't) give much importance to the self-portrait thing here. To be honest, I didn't read the bio and didn't suspect the photographer was included in the pictures. Here is another set I like so much and free from the 'touch the model' thing: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/trees_and_forests.html Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: TA Very sensible contribution. I enjoyed his work, Dario. But I must admit to a strong feeling of unease at his series of nude self-portraits with female models. He's walking a very thin tightrope there, arguably one (mis-)step removed from Terry Richardson. I do now fully understand how the photographer/model relationship is based on trust and intent. If both parties agree on boundaries and establish trust, then the session will be creative and enjoyable. But even still there could be doubts in the minds of outside observers -- after all, they aren't privy to the intents or established boundaries. I think that a lot of people would accuse Mr. Minkkinen of having worked a very clever scheme to get nude models to let him touch them, very high on the list of model no-no's. Oh dear, my inner prude is showing. :-) On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: This could be a sensible contribution to the debate. How to shoot the naked body (male and female, especially the latter) with great taste and creativity. I'd say, look at nature and add your touch: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/man_and_woman.html Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6870 - Data di rilascio: 26/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Speaking of photo books
If anyone is planning on making their own photo book (or any other kind of book) and wants an ISBN for it I'm about to purchase another batch. I sell them for $25.00 each. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A nod to mr. Rowell
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 27/11/13, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/a-nod-to-mr-rowell.html As a warning to the sensitive, this contains both nude rocks and a digitally compressed tonemap. Insert superlative here. Wonderful. Cotty took the words right out of my mouth. [Bad Cotty: get out of my shower! :-)] -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Birthday Cake
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Nothing is ever 'just' something. The cake is a 3-dimensional simulacrum of something which only exists as an idea, embodied in 2 dimensions (if the virtual domain can be said to be dimensional). The contradiction is that the signifier is somehow more real than the signified, so that the inherent paradox of the sugary comestible becomes itself a double signifier, equally of meta-meaning in late postmodernism, and of the love you have for your wife, which embodies the courtly ideal. Tetris, of course, is a game of joining and of construction, which relies on the player being able to respond to randomness and from it construct meaning despite the difficulties. It is a kind of bricolage, making do with what life has dealt you, to construct as best you can what is, essentially, an idea. This quite unequivocally symbolises marriage, and by baking a Tetris cake rather than say a Battenberg, you have particularised the mathematical generic metanarrative, moving from the signifying domain to the realm of the signifier. It's too obvious for me to point out that the photograph is a 3rd-order signifier, and this email is one step beyond. Now, if you'd baked a cigar cake, well, that would have been just a cigar. Anyway, whatever else you do, don't leave the cake out in the rain. Bobrillard Your philosophical treatise of the subject matter goes beyond cake and eating:) It goes, indeed, to infinity and beyond. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Birthday Cake
So, how does one go about cleaning coffee stains off of both a keyboard and screen again? On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 27 Nov 2013, at 04:13, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:42 pm, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I get that it's a Tetris cake, but is there any specific meaning to that fact that I'm missing? Nope, just a Tetris cake :) Nothing is ever 'just' something. The cake is a 3-dimensional simulacrum of something which only exists as an idea, embodied in 2 dimensions (if the virtual domain can be said to be dimensional). The contradiction is that the signifier is somehow more real than the signified, so that the inherent paradox of the sugary comestible becomes itself a double signifier, equally of meta-meaning in late postmodernism, and of the love you have for your wife, which embodies the courtly ideal. Tetris, of course, is a game of joining and of construction, which relies on the player being able to respond to randomness and from it construct meaning despite the difficulties. It is a kind of bricolage, making do with what life has dealt you, to construct as best you can what is, essentially, an idea. This quite unequivocally symbolises marriage, and by baking a Tetris cake rather than say a Battenberg, you have particularised the mathematical generic metanarrative, moving from the signifying domain to the realm of the signifier. It's too obvious for me to point out that the photograph is a 3rd-order signifier, and this email is one step beyond. Now, if you'd baked a cigar cake, well, that would have been just a cigar. Anyway, whatever else you do, don't leave the cake out in the rain. Bobrillard -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
I like some of the shots in this set -- not all -- but it's a good example of artful nude photography. I also like some of the shots in the other set you showed, which included photographer interaction. Nothing wrong with that. The photographer and model obviously have a relationship that enables that kind of work. Okay by me. And it's beautifully depicted in the photography. Paul On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Hi Bruce. I didn't (and don't) give much importance to the self-portrait thing here. To be honest, I didn't read the bio and didn't suspect the photographer was included in the pictures. Here is another set I like so much and free from the 'touch the model' thing: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/trees_and_forests.html Dario -Messaggio originale- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 2:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: TA Very sensible contribution. I enjoyed his work, Dario. But I must admit to a strong feeling of unease at his series of nude self-portraits with female models. He's walking a very thin tightrope there, arguably one (mis-)step removed from Terry Richardson. I do now fully understand how the photographer/model relationship is based on trust and intent. If both parties agree on boundaries and establish trust, then the session will be creative and enjoyable. But even still there could be doubts in the minds of outside observers -- after all, they aren't privy to the intents or established boundaries. I think that a lot of people would accuse Mr. Minkkinen of having worked a very clever scheme to get nude models to let him touch them, very high on the list of model no-no's. Oh dear, my inner prude is showing. :-) On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: This could be a sensible contribution to the debate. How to shoot the naked body (male and female, especially the latter) with great taste and creativity. I'd say, look at nature and add your touch: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/man_and_woman.html Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Nessun virus nel messaggio. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 2013.0.3426 / Database dei virus: 3629/6870 - Data di rilascio: 26/11/2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Speaking of photo books
I sent you something off list and it bounced.. let me in please ann On 11/27/2013 09:20, Mark Roberts wrote: If anyone is planning on making their own photo book (or any other kind of book) and wants an ISBN for it I'm about to purchase another batch. I sell them for $25.00 each. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Modesty (nsfw)
Absolutely! This is charming, frank. Intimate and genuine. Godfrey On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:36 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I always look at your courier-on-bike shots, but haven't really commented. Skilled, and enjoyable, but I wanted to see their personality besides their speed on bikes. This shot, and the previous Jesse and Moto take it up a level. Too good. On 27/11/2013 10:56 AM, knarf wrote: More messenger follies: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/11/modestly.html?m=1 Balancing, balancing... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
Even The Grey Lady (New York Times) is getting into the TA business: http://www.nytimes.com/images/2013/11/27/nytfrontpage/scan.pdf Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: This could be a sensible contribution to the debate. How to shoot the naked body (male and female, especially the latter) with great taste and creativity. I'd say, look at nature and add your touch: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/man_and_woman.html Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eye contact
Damn fine collection of images mate! DS On 27 November 2013 18:24, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I made a Blurb. There are probably a few more adjustments before I order, but this is essentially what it will look like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/eyecontact/index.html Much regret missing the TA discussion. I had some thoughts along that subject while putting this together, and if some semi-cogent words form, I'll add my farthings worth. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT PESO - Time
G'day All, As is my habit, I regularly search back through my archive and tonight I rediscoverd a shot taken back in '09 that I never did anything with: http://500px.com/photo/53347142 D700, 70-200mm @ 86mm, 1 second @ f22, ISO 200 Enjoy. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A nod to mr. Rowell
Quite nice, Jostein. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/a-nod-to-mr-rowell.html As a warning to the sensitive, this contains both nude rocks and a digitally compressed tonemap. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
Having followed Minkkinen for ages I would never accuse him of anything like that, but of course, there are always those who would. Involving others is a fairly new thing for him, an extention og the self portraits he has been doing all the time. I think the models understand that, and you should not forget that he is from Finland, and we are not as prude around here :-) DagT Sendt fra min iPad Den 27. nov. 2013 kl. 14:09 skrev Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Very sensible contribution. I enjoyed his work, Dario. But I must admit to a strong feeling of unease at his series of nude self-portraits with female models. He's walking a very thin tightrope there, arguably one (mis-)step removed from Terry Richardson. I do now fully understand how the photographer/model relationship is based on trust and intent. If both parties agree on boundaries and establish trust, then the session will be creative and enjoyable. But even still there could be doubts in the minds of outside observers -- after all, they aren't privy to the intents or established boundaries. I think that a lot of people would accuse Mr. Minkkinen of having worked a very clever scheme to get nude models to let him touch them, very high on the list of model no-no's. Oh dear, my inner prude is showing. :-) On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: This could be a sensible contribution to the debate. How to shoot the naked body (male and female, especially the latter) with great taste and creativity. I'd say, look at nature and add your touch: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com/man_and_woman.html Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Brooklyn Diner
Rick I like this one. Good composition for a street shot plus great timing. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: It's in Manhattan. Wanna make sumpin' of it? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597035size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eye contact
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I made a Blurb. There are probably a few more adjustments before I order, but this is essentially what it will look like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/eyecontact/index.html Very good. Any reason to print only on the odd pages? 53 is my favorite, very fine portrait. I have no idea how could you get that close without being noticed. I also like the last image, that bus makes a nice background. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Time
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:33 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All, As is my habit, I regularly search back through my archive and tonight I rediscoverd a shot taken back in '09 that I never did anything with: http://500px.com/photo/53347142 I like the diagonal placement of the falls and the big rock in the foreground. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA
Thanks, Ken. Cafe Du Monde's beignets have been on the list for years as an absolute must if I should ever find myself in New Orleans. Looks like it's finally going to happen. -- Walt On 11/26/2013 11:30 PM, Ken Waller wrote: You really must have a beignet from Cafe Du Monde http://www.cafedumonde.com/ a great place for a coffee, a pastry and some people watching. Been to New Orleans for several trials, never had the time to explore the city much, but always had the time for Cafe Du Monde. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA On 11/26/2013 9:13 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Walt wrote: Thanks for the ideas, John. I've never been to New Orleans before, so I'm not quite sure what to expect. My only exposure to it has been via TV film, and we all know how accurate those portrayals can be. (Though, if I do happen upon any vampires or voodoo priests, I'll do my best to get documentary evidence.) I'd really like to try capturing the essence of the city rather than the parts that hit you over the head as a tourist. The architectural detail is something I'd been contemplating, so I'm going to do a little reading up on it in the meantime. I was there a couple of years ago (3rd visit). There for a conference, no time on my own for photography beyond grab shots on Bourbon St environs. Which is basically a pleasant enough amusement park. But what struck me as the essence of the city 2010 version was the number of damaged and abandoned buildings that were relics of Katrina. Schools, hospitals, homes, neighborhoods... Look for the continuing signs of Katrina and, for balance, look for the rebuilding projects. stan Thank you, Stan. I was wondering how much of the city had recovered from Katrina. No doubt there are plenty of reminders and some great successes in its wake. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA
Thanks, Ann. I'll put those on the list, too. And I do plan on doing some eating (and likely a good bit of drinking) while I'm in town. But, I'm going to have such a brief stay that I really, really want to get in as much photography as I possibly can. -- Walt On 11/26/2013 11:51 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Jackson Square is a must. also, head for The Garden District for a nice walk-about. I'll confess I haven't been there since the year before Katrina, but I think the French Quarter and the Garden District were not so much altered by that storm. But the main thing to do in New Orleans is eat :-) ann On 11/26/2013 18:00, Steve Desjardins wrote: Bourbon St and surroundings obviously. Also, pictures or not, I would strongly recommend the WWII museum. It's $30 but well worth it. Steve Desjardins On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, it looks like I'll be going on a little road trip with a friend next week, to New Orleans. Anybody have any suggestions for where to go for photographic purposes? (Hell isn't an option. Sorry.) I'd like to get interesting shots, rather than provide a vicarious sight-seeing tour for potential viewers when I get back. So any interesting places you may be able to point me to would be much appreciated. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXO does the K3....was..Fwd: Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
Sorry for the delayed reply Boris. http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/36834206 Also read the Imaging Resource and dxomarks reviews of the K-5. Pretty much all the reviews noticed the RAW NR above 1600. Given the K-5's output at 3200, Pentax made a good choice IMO. Their hardware NR is pretty decent, very clean looking, and still retains a lot of detail, especially after the raws are processed gently in lightroom. I never once objected to the engineers' decisions on the K-5 when it came to the sensor. Pentax seems to be very good at massaging maximum performance out of a sensor. The K-3 IMO looks very good too. A 50% increase in density with similar noise and DR over the previous generation is very good IMO. The next round of chips will likely be even better. What's not to like? The K-5 I have is very good in IQ. I'll keep shooting it till it doesn't take pictures anymore. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: The source of information that indicates that K-5 applies smoothing to RAW files even if I specifically set its settings not to do so. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: The source for K-5 raw smoothing? The source for resized K3 files? What source do you speak of Mr Boris? :P On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/26/2013 6:38 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Also I must add that the k-5 does some definite noise reduction to the raw files over iso 1600, whether that's in the imaging pipeline or the firmware is neither hear nor there at this point. At 3200 on the k-5 you are most certainly trading resolution for image quality. I don't have any real figures, but I feel that looking at the files from my k-5, its easily giving up quite a bit of resolution due to noise smoothing. From what I can gather the K-3 is resolving more fine detail but yet showing similar amounts of noise when resized to k-5 resolution. That's what I have seen with my own eyes at least. To be honest they are pretty close and careful raw processing will result with more detail in the k-3 files with similar noise levels. I find pentax's jpeg engine to be not the greatest at noise reduction, but honestly, its better than some other camera makers too. Zos, can you please point me to the source of that information? I'm extremely interested to *know*. Thanks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG Countdown
On 11/26/2013 09:49, Bruce Walker wrote: Ann, it can't be worse than my basement. :-/ I may have to send you a photo off-list .. How about looking at some localized chaos? Closeup of cream freshly stirred into coffee kind of thing. Actually I just submitted one - should have thought of this kind of thing immediately duh (you'll see) ann On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Well I could take a photo of my apartment... May have to bow out of this month's theme as I think of photography as a positive force for order in my life ann On 11/25/2013 16:43, Paul Sorenson wrote: Hmmm. Nothing comes to mind yet. But with 20 people (four our whom are under the age of 8) coming here for Thanksgiving there should be plenty of chaos. Maybe I'll get something then. :] -p On 11/25/2013 3:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Only a few days left to submit for the December PUG. So far zero, nil, nada submissions. (well, there is one, but that's mine so it doesn't count...) Theme: Chaos Nom. closing date 30 Nov Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html The main requirements are: * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels * Max file size: 300k * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or lens used is Pentax. * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA
You're talking my language, Igor! Thanks! I'd planned on making a special effort to get to Frenchman Street, but wasn't aware of Royal and St. Louis. I hope I'll be fairly fortunate in my timing as far as tourist crowds go. Maybe early December will be relatively slow. I'll do my best to make it to Preservation Hall, but I'm going to be on a fairly compressed schedule, hoping to get as much done as possible in three days. I have a feeling I'm going to be dog-tired by the end of this little excursion. But, I've always wanted to go, and the opportunity just fell into my lap, so I'm going to make the most of it. -- Walt On 11/27/2013 12:22 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Walt, Here are some thoughts: I would recommend going to Frenchman Street, - while this has many tourists (which part of NOLA doesn't?), it has several interesting musical bars, and you can find some interesting music most of the days/nights. My personal preference would be The Spotted Cat: http://www.spottedcatmusicclub.com/ - they have nice blues and jazz. I would look for some small-house architecture that is of typical Louisiana style. Also, not far from Bourbon street, there is Royal Street that usually has musicians playing daytime (at least on the weekend). It's been a while, but close to the corner Royal and St. Louis there used to live a couple of jazz bands (Loose Marbles and G-Strings [G-String FAmily Orchestra/Quarter, - depending on the number of people]). And you could find a piano in the entryway of one of the buildings on Royal that belonged to those bands. On a good day, that piano would come out onto the street. And you would find people dancing swing on the street, e.g. like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZISKM9KaWA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HU1wgSQUME I would also recommend going to Preservation Hall for an evening performance you can make it. HTH, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: cheap batteries
Amazing. The local camera shop still sells the Promaster brand for $29.99! -- Walt On 11/27/2013 5:19 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/300700521479?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984. m1438.l2649 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA
Just in case, - to clarify: Royal and St.Louis (and Royal street in general) is the place where I've seen a bunch of musicians playing on the street. That's in the heart of the French Quarter. On Frenchman Street, sometimes there are people playing on the street, but otherwise, it has several musical bars. As for Bourbon Street, - it is colorful, and the main tourist attraction, but it is somewhat sleazy, especially in the evening. But it is famous. It has a bunch of music bars, but I found only one that was consistently good: Fritzel's European Jazz Pub http://www.fritzelsjazz.net/ 733 Bourbon St, New Orleans, LA 70116. I don't if you'll have a car while being in N.O., - keep in mind that parking in French Quarter can be a problem. If you are lucky, you might find some free or metered street parking mid-way between Frenchman Street and French quarters. Igor Wed Nov 27 12:30:28 EST 2013 Walt wrote: You're talking my language, Igor! Thanks! I'd planned on making a special effort to get to Frenchman Street, but wasn't aware of Royal and St. Louis. I hope I'll be fairly fortunate in my timing as far as tourist crowds go. Maybe early December will be relatively slow. I'll do my best to make it to Preservation Hall, but I'm going to be on a fairly compressed schedule, hoping to get as much done as possible in three days. I have a feeling I'm going to be dog-tired by the end of this little excursion. But, I've always wanted to go, and the opportunity just fell into my lap, so I'm going to make the most of it. -- Walt On 11/27/2013 12:22 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Walt, Here are some thoughts: I would recommend going to Frenchman Street, - while this has many tourists (which part of NOLA doesn't?), it has several interesting musical bars, and you can find some interesting music most of the days/nights. My personal preference would be The Spotted Cat: http://www.spottedcatmusicclub.com/ - they have nice blues and jazz. I would look for some small-house architecture that is of typical Louisiana style. Also, not far from Bourbon street, there is Royal Street that usually has musicians playing daytime (at least on the weekend). It's been a while, but close to the corner Royal and St. Louis there used to live a couple of jazz bands (Loose Marbles and G-Strings [G-String FAmily Orchestra/Quarter, - depending on the number of people]). And you could find a piano in the entryway of one of the buildings on Royal that belonged to those bands. On a good day, that piano would come out onto the street. And you would find people dancing swing on the street, e.g. like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZISKM9KaWA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HU1wgSQUME I would also recommend going to Preservation Hall for an evening performance you can make it. HTH, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sony A7 and A7r reviewed by DigitalRev
He's entertaining. Often times it's hard to tell whether he is just having fun or simply doesn't understand what he's looking at. But at least he makes no bones about being right or wrong … G On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine some of you hate Kai's style of reviewing, but I thoroughly enjoy his irreverence. Anyway, he actually...well...I'll let you watch the review to find out what he thinks of these FF Sonys (or is it Sonies?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJc83wV6iA If only their lenses weren't so humongous, they could be contenders for Miserere's stable of street cameras, especially at $1,700 for the A7. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Flowering corn plant redux
Nice, Ann! Now we need smell-o-vision to capture the flowers' scent as well as their look. ;-) G On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: This year: In fact, Yesterday, 11/25 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/7966405_SrB5XV/1/2933484629_FkVKwzX/Medium ISO 800, hand held AWB Pentax k-5 Last year: http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/7966405_SrB5XV/1/2269117846_PqBcg7S/Medium ISO 800, tri-pod used, Pentax istD I'm hoping in a week or so there will be large blossoms and a heady fragrance -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:37:18PM +0100, DagT wrote: Also I don?t agree that men are looking at women as objects when they take nude photos. We may be programmed to this but I think most men look at women with fascination. Not necessarily sexual, but graceful, beautiful or lots of other feelings. Well, of course we do. The advertising industry uses this as the basis for selling us things. And I'm sure that how attractive I find the model weighs in to how much time I'll spend looking at any particular photograph (not necessarily limited to nudes). I've only done nude photography once; a studio session with a group of photographers back in my university days. I'm not sure all the photographers even had film in their cameras ... I only considered two of my shots worth remembering; one was about the same pose as the 'flip' shot posted recently, although without the tutu; the other was a model's-eye-view of the cluster of photographers pointing cameras in her direction. Apart from that, I believe the only other 'figure study' I can recall was a shot I took on Bourbon Street when I was there for SIGGRAPH 2000. I intended to use the image as the thumbnail and/or low-key backdrop for a web page showing other shots from that trip (with the middle two zeroes of '2000' in the title being provided by the obvious features), but never got round to creating that gallery; in fact I'd forgotten it until my memory was jogged by the thread here about a trip to New Orleans. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
27. nov. 2013 kl. 19:40 skrev John Francis jo...@panix.com: On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:37:18PM +0100, DagT wrote: Also I don?t agree that men are looking at women as objects when they take nude photos. We may be programmed to this but I think most men look at women with fascination. Not necessarily sexual, but graceful, beautiful or lots of other feelings. Well, of course we do. The advertising industry uses this as the basis for selling us things. And I'm sure that how attractive I find the model weighs in to how much time I'll spend looking at any particular photograph (not necessarily limited to nudes). I've only done nude photography once; a studio session with a group of photographers back in my university days. I'm not sure all the photographers even had film in their cameras ... I only considered two of my shots worth remembering; one was about the same pose as the 'flip' shot posted recently, although without the tutu; the other was a model's-eye-view of the cluster of photographers pointing cameras in her direction. Apart from that, I believe the only other 'figure study' I can recall was a shot I took on Bourbon Street when I was there for SIGGRAPH 2000. I intended to use the image as the thumbnail and/or low-key backdrop for a web page showing other shots from that trip (with the middle two zeroes of '2000' in the title being provided by the obvious features), but never got round to creating that gallery; in fact I'd forgotten it until my memory was jogged by the thread here about a trip to New Orleans. I have done nude photography five times (I think), and once with a male model. Trying to work with a male model was interesting, but frustrating as I had a hard time finding the lines and shapes interesting enough to photograph. It was not the sexual part as the pictures were partially abstract, but the beautiful curves I would look for on a female mode were impossible to find so I had to try something different. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A nod to mr. Rowell
Nice … I like it, but I wish the foreground was a bit brighter, had more contrast, or something like that. ;-) G On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:57 AM, Alunfoto - Jostein Øksne p...@alunfoto.no wrote: http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/a-nod-to-mr-rowell.html As a warning to the sensitive, this contains both nude rocks and a digitally compressed tonemap. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Speaking of photo books
Ann Sanfedele wrote: I sent you something off list and it bounced.. let me in please What address did you send to? (I shut off my mark@ address some time ago due to excessive spam) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA
On 11/26/2013 10:27 PM, Walt wrote: On 11/26/2013 9:13 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Walt wrote: Thanks for the ideas, John. I've never been to New Orleans before, so I'm not quite sure what to expect. My only exposure to it has been via TV film, and we all know how accurate those portrayals can be. (Though, if I do happen upon any vampires or voodoo priests, I'll do my best to get documentary evidence.) I'd really like to try capturing the essence of the city rather than the parts that hit you over the head as a tourist. The architectural detail is something I'd been contemplating, so I'm going to do a little reading up on it in the meantime. I was there a couple of years ago (3rd visit). There for a conference, no time on my own for photography beyond grab shots on Bourbon St environs. Which is basically a pleasant enough amusement park. But what struck me as the essence of the city 2010 version was the number of damaged and abandoned buildings that were relics of Katrina. Schools, hospitals, homes, neighborhoods... Look for the continuing signs of Katrina and, for balance, look for the rebuilding projects. stan Thank you, Stan. I was wondering how much of the city had recovered from Katrina. No doubt there are plenty of reminders and some great successes in its wake. -- Walt I believe the French Quarter was relatively unaffected by Katrina bounced back pretty quickly, as did the majority of the commercial districts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
one of the most beautiful figure studies i've seen: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/Solitataire-3910.jpg Solitaire by Naomi Stanley. I have a print of this photo that I bought sometime in the late 1980s. Is it Not Safe For Work? I dunno. I've used this snapshot of the print as a computer screen desktop image, now and then, both at home and at work for more than 20 years. No one has ever complained. Many have seen it and asked where they could buy a print... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eye contact
On 11/27/2013 5:24 AM, Derby Chang wrote: I made a Blurb. There are probably a few more adjustments before I order, but this is essentially what it will look like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/eyecontact/index.html Much regret missing the TA discussion. I had some thoughts along that subject while putting this together, and if some semi-cogent words form, I'll add my farthings worth. It sez This book is currently not available for preview. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Birthday Cake
On Nov 27, 2013, at 9:38 pm, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On 27 Nov 2013, at 04:13, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 27, 2013, at 3:42 pm, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I get that it's a Tetris cake, but is there any specific meaning to that fact that I'm missing? Nope, just a Tetris cake :) Nothing is ever 'just' something. The cake is a 3-dimensional simulacrum of something which only exists as an idea, embodied in 2 dimensions (if the virtual domain can be said to be dimensional). The contradiction is that the signifier is somehow more real than the signified, so that the inherent paradox of the sugary comestible becomes itself a double signifier, equally of meta-meaning in late postmodernism, and of the love you have for your wife, which embodies the courtly ideal. Tetris, of course, is a game of joining and of construction, which relies on the player being able to respond to randomness and from it construct meaning despite the difficulties. It is a kind of bricolage, making do with what life has dealt you, to construct as best you can what is, essentially, an idea. This quite unequivocally symbolises marriage, and by baking a Tetris cake rather than say a Battenberg, you have particularised the mathematical generic metanarrative, moving from the signifying domain to the realm of the signifier. Well, I figured all that was obvious to any half-educated viewer... :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: FS - two like-new K-5
Don adds, make an offer. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: [I know it's not a Friday, sorry.] I'm posting this for a net acquaintance: Don Neal says: I have 2 K-5 bodies for sale - little use - purchased body #2 as an insurance policy for a large project. Both come in boxes with all accessories - would like $1100.00 for the pair or $600.00 for a single. Please contact Don directly here: doncn...@yahoo.com Cheers! -- -bmw -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:00 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I have done nude photography five times (I think), and once with a male model. Trying to work with a male model was interesting, but frustrating as I had a hard time finding the lines and shapes interesting enough to photograph. It was not the sexual part as the pictures were partially abstract, but the beautiful curves I would look for on a female mode were impossible to find so I had to try something different. We're often told to shoot what we're passionate about. I'm fairly passionate about admiring the comely female form. Males are part of the background for me, and I just cannot imagine them as much other than props for females to lean against or something (pretty much how fashion shooters treat them too). So I'm not ready to shoot male nudes until (and if) I'm better prepared. Same with sports photography. I know nothing about sports, don't appreciate it or care for it at all. I couldn't shoot sports to save my life. You could say there's an imbalance there -- too many cats and women, not enough grunting jocks. So be it. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: cheap batteries
Just in case, - a word of caution: The image shows two specs that I would be concerned about: Voltage: 7.4 V and capacity: 1440 mAh. Note that the original one from Pentax is 7.2 V and 1860 mAh http://static.bhphoto.com/images/images500x500/634906.jpg I see that a few other replacement batteries on Amazon are also listed as 7.4 V or 7.2 V. While I was first concerned about this, I think it is just a marketing ploy. I read somewhere that the lithium ion chemistry produces a 3.6v open current potential difference. Some bulk cell manufactures list there cells as 3.7v just to make them look a little better. (3.6*2 = 7.2, 3.7*2 = 7.4) Now, the lower capacity means that I would be caring around a battery that is as heavy but not as capable. Some 3rd party batteries actually list the capacity that is higher than that of those by Pentax: 2150 or 2300 mAh. Of those that are currently available, Wasabi Power show 2300 mAh: http://www.amazon.com/Wasabi-Power-Battery-Pentax-D-LI90/dp/B004U6KIJS/ They even make a point about that in the description. (Ironically, they write: Japanese cells ... and the battery is still made in China, probably at the same factory as the others.) And Neewer-branded are rated at 2000 mAh: http://www.amazon.com/NEEWER-D-LI90-Batteries-Pentax-Digital/dp/B003FHZ3OS/ In May of 2011, I bought Zeikos ZE-LI90 (for $17), which was rated for 2800 mAh. I never measured its capacity, but indeed, it seemed to be lasting noticeably longer. However, earlier this year, I noticed that its charge life became very short, only about 20-30% of what I get from the original Pentax battery. BuyDig that was selling them, discontinued them more than 1 year ago, and the only place I see them available now is Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Zeikos-ZE-LI90-Lithium-Battery-Replaces/dp/B002ZRPWPY/ Also, within half a year one of the plastic pieces that is between the contacts broke off on one end and became a prong. It still worked after that, but I had to make sure I pushed it in when I was inserting the battery into the camera. I hope this collection of information about D-LI90-format batteries is helpful to some PDMLers. Igor PS. Ricoh-imaging is very uninformative about the battery on their website: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/accessories/Li-Ion_battery_D-LI90#!product-specs The webpage has no specifications, and the photos shows the butt of the battery. Boo! hociR! On 11/27/2013 5:19 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/300700521479?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 Just in case anyone besides me is looking at getting some. (I ended up buying elsewhere, but this seller just had a good sale today.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eye contact
Nicely done photos, sir! Like someone else intimated, it feels a little odd that you're using only one page out of two facing pages. The blank space on the left sometimes becomes a little overpowering—I want something to be there, even if it is just titling or simple graphic. G On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:24 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I made a Blurb. There are probably a few more adjustments before I order, but this is essentially what it will look like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/eyecontact/index.html Much regret missing the TA discussion. I had some thoughts along that subject while putting this together, and if some semi-cogent words form, I'll add my farthings worth. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA
On Nov 27, 2013, at 13:11 , John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe the French Quarter was relatively unaffected by Katrina bounced back pretty quickly, as did the majority of the commercial districts. I was just there in March 2012 and it looked pretty good. You had to walk South into some of the neighborhoods outside the quarter before you saw all kinds of wrecked buildings with the notations on the front walls left by rescue crews. Such as: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2012/NOLA/content/IMGP7377_large.html We also had a nice breakfast at Cafe Beignet in the French Quarter. Beignets without the ridiculous long lines of tourists! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Bicycling video for Knarf other bikers
From my old stomping ground of Pittsburgh, the Dirty Dozen race: http://youtu.be/ncieQ7fldSI -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXO does the K3....was..Fwd: Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
K3 scores vs The Others: http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Pentax-K-3-camera-tested-by-DxOMark.jpg http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Pentax-K-3-tested-by-DxOMark.jpg Images ruthlessly pulled from this Photo Rumors post: http://photorumors.com/2013/11/27/what-else-is-new-52/ Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 27 November 2013 12:24, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the delayed reply Boris. http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/36834206 Also read the Imaging Resource and dxomarks reviews of the K-5. Pretty much all the reviews noticed the RAW NR above 1600. Given the K-5's output at 3200, Pentax made a good choice IMO. Their hardware NR is pretty decent, very clean looking, and still retains a lot of detail, especially after the raws are processed gently in lightroom. I never once objected to the engineers' decisions on the K-5 when it came to the sensor. Pentax seems to be very good at massaging maximum performance out of a sensor. The K-3 IMO looks very good too. A 50% increase in density with similar noise and DR over the previous generation is very good IMO. The next round of chips will likely be even better. What's not to like? The K-5 I have is very good in IQ. I'll keep shooting it till it doesn't take pictures anymore. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: The source of information that indicates that K-5 applies smoothing to RAW files even if I specifically set its settings not to do so. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: The source for K-5 raw smoothing? The source for resized K3 files? What source do you speak of Mr Boris? :P On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/26/2013 6:38 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Also I must add that the k-5 does some definite noise reduction to the raw files over iso 1600, whether that's in the imaging pipeline or the firmware is neither hear nor there at this point. At 3200 on the k-5 you are most certainly trading resolution for image quality. I don't have any real figures, but I feel that looking at the files from my k-5, its easily giving up quite a bit of resolution due to noise smoothing. From what I can gather the K-3 is resolving more fine detail but yet showing similar amounts of noise when resized to k-5 resolution. That's what I have seen with my own eyes at least. To be honest they are pretty close and careful raw processing will result with more detail in the k-3 files with similar noise levels. I find pentax's jpeg engine to be not the greatest at noise reduction, but honestly, its better than some other camera makers too. Zos, can you please point me to the source of that information? I'm extremely interested to *know*. Thanks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sony A7 and A7r reviewed by DigitalRev
Having watched way too many of his reviews (often just for the entertainment, not because I cared about the camera or lens), I've come to believe he does know his s*!t but will play dumb for the sake of comedy. Plus, I'm 95% certain DigitalRev sees these videos as advertising, not really as technical reviews :-) In any case, when he doesn't like something, he's clear about it and doesn't mince words, and I don't think I've ever seen him praise a Sony product like he did the A7(r). Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 27 November 2013 13:31, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: He's entertaining. Often times it's hard to tell whether he is just having fun or simply doesn't understand what he's looking at. But at least he makes no bones about being right or wrong … G On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: I imagine some of you hate Kai's style of reviewing, but I thoroughly enjoy his irreverence. Anyway, he actually...well...I'll let you watch the review to find out what he thinks of these FF Sonys (or is it Sonies?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJc83wV6iA If only their lenses weren't so humongous, they could be contenders for Miserere's stable of street cameras, especially at $1,700 for the A7. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eye contact
Derby, I had the same impressions (both), as described by Godfrey. As for specific photos, - I thought that the one on p.57 appeared a bit too dark. I especially liked photos on p.67 and 55. A rather strange pose on p.35 caught my attention. Please, excuse me, I will provide an additional comment about something that makes my eye a bit uncomfortable is the crop in some photos that cuts off some odd portion of the legs (feet). There is some magic formula of how much of a limb one can cut off so that it looks fine. I don't know how to formulate it, it's just how I feel. I actually remember seeing some website about a year ago that was discussing what portion works and what does not. Unfortunately, I don't remember where it was. Those are photos: 37, 61, 45, and to a lesser extent 57, 55, 51. Well, I just googled, and found this chart: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18i6o34ozkql8jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg on this page: http://lifehacker.com/5991733/avoid-amputating-people-in-your-photos-with-this-cropping-cheat-sheet I think it works along the lines (pun intended) of my intuition. Best regards, Igor Wed Nov 27 17:04:23 EST 2013 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Nicely done photos, sir! Like someone else intimated, it feels a little odd that you're using only one page out of two facing pages. The blank space on the left sometimes becomes a little overpowering.I want something to be there, even if it is just titling or simple graphic. G On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:24 AM, Derby Chang derbyc at iinet.net.au wrote: I made a Blurb. There are probably a few more adjustments before I order, but this is essentially what it will look like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/eyecontact/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eye contact
Igor, I would take that chart with a _really_ healthy dose of salt. Other than the basic rule of don't crop at joints, I wouldn't even give that chart the time of day myself. I have seen very many great shots that violate one of their red lines. Much fashion photography seemingly breaks their guidelines repeatedly. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Derby, I had the same impressions (both), as described by Godfrey. As for specific photos, - I thought that the one on p.57 appeared a bit too dark. I especially liked photos on p.67 and 55. A rather strange pose on p.35 caught my attention. Please, excuse me, I will provide an additional comment about something that makes my eye a bit uncomfortable is the crop in some photos that cuts off some odd portion of the legs (feet). There is some magic formula of how much of a limb one can cut off so that it looks fine. I don't know how to formulate it, it's just how I feel. I actually remember seeing some website about a year ago that was discussing what portion works and what does not. Unfortunately, I don't remember where it was. Those are photos: 37, 61, 45, and to a lesser extent 57, 55, 51. Well, I just googled, and found this chart: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18i6o34ozkql8jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg on this page: http://lifehacker.com/5991733/avoid-amputating-people-in-your-photos-with-this-cropping-cheat-sheet I think it works along the lines (pun intended) of my intuition. Best regards, Igor Wed Nov 27 17:04:23 EST 2013 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Nicely done photos, sir! Like someone else intimated, it feels a little odd that you're using only one page out of two facing pages. The blank space on the left sometimes becomes a little overpowering.I want something to be there, even if it is just titling or simple graphic. G On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:24 AM, Derby Chang derbyc at iinet.net.au wrote: I made a Blurb. There are probably a few more adjustments before I order, but this is essentially what it will look like. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/11/eyecontact/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA
On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:11 PM, John wrote: On 11/26/2013 10:27 PM, Walt wrote: On 11/26/2013 9:13 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Walt wrote: Thanks for the ideas, John. I've never been to New Orleans before, so I'm not quite sure what to expect. My only exposure to it has been via TV film, and we all know how accurate those portrayals can be. (Though, if I do happen upon any vampires or voodoo priests, I'll do my best to get documentary evidence.) I'd really like to try capturing the essence of the city rather than the parts that hit you over the head as a tourist. The architectural detail is something I'd been contemplating, so I'm going to do a little reading up on it in the meantime. I was there a couple of years ago (3rd visit). There for a conference, no time on my own for photography beyond grab shots on Bourbon St environs. Which is basically a pleasant enough amusement park. But what struck me as the essence of the city 2010 version was the number of damaged and abandoned buildings that were relics of Katrina. Schools, hospitals, homes, neighborhoods... Look for the continuing signs of Katrina and, for balance, look for the rebuilding projects. stan Thank you, Stan. I was wondering how much of the city had recovered from Katrina. No doubt there are plenty of reminders and some great successes in its wake. -- Walt I believe the French Quarter was relatively unaffected by Katrina bounced back pretty quickly, as did the majority of the commercial districts. Right. Majority, but not all. But Walt original query was about capturing the essence of NO. I think the essence is not the Disney-like few blocks of adult entertainment, but rather the larger community, much of which is still suffering. Hence my suggestions to look for such. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: cheap batteries
Bruce, I totally agree with you. More over, - none of the ground rules in any form of art should be taken as an absolute dogma. -- That's my sincere believe. I didn't even have much time to analyze this image for the correctness. I just used it as an example of the general trend/approach that I usually follow based on my intuition. Cheers, Igor Wed Nov 27 19:11:59 EST 2013 Bruce Walker wrote: Igor, I would take that chart with a _really_ healthy dose of salt. Other than the basic rule of don't crop at joints, I wouldn't even give that chart the time of day myself. I have seen very many great shots that violate one of their red lines. Much fashion photography seemingly breaks their guidelines repeatedly. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Derby, I had the same impressions (both), as described by Godfrey. As for specific photos, - I thought that the one on p.57 appeared a bit too dark. I especially liked photos on p.67 and 55. A rather strange pose on p.35 caught my attention. Please, excuse me, I will provide an additional comment about something that makes my eye a bit uncomfortable is the crop in some photos that cuts off some odd portion of the legs (feet). There is some magic formula of how much of a limb one can cut off so that it looks fine. I don't know how to formulate it, it's just how I feel. I actually remember seeing some website about a year ago that was discussing what portion works and what does not. Unfortunately, I don't remember where it was. Those are photos: 37, 61, 45, and to a lesser extent 57, 55, 51. Well, I just googled, and found this chart: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18i6o34ozkql8jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg on this page: http://lifehacker.com/5991733/avoid-amputating-people-in-your-photos-with-this-cropping-cheat-sheet I think it works along the lines (pun intended) of my intuition. Best regards, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Eye contact
Bruce, I totally agree with you. More over, - none of the ground rules in any form of art should be taken as an absolute dogma. -- That's my sincere believe. I didn't even have much time to analyze this image for the correctness. I just used it as an example of the general trend/approach that I usually follow based on my intuition. Cheers, Igor Wed Nov 27 19:11:59 EST 2013 Bruce Walker wrote: Igor, I would take that chart with a _really_ healthy dose of salt. Other than the basic rule of don't crop at joints, I wouldn't even give that chart the time of day myself. I have seen very many great shots that violate one of their red lines. Much fashion photography seemingly breaks their guidelines repeatedly. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Derby, I had the same impressions (both), as described by Godfrey. As for specific photos, - I thought that the one on p.57 appeared a bit too dark. I especially liked photos on p.67 and 55. A rather strange pose on p.35 caught my attention. Please, excuse me, I will provide an additional comment about something that makes my eye a bit uncomfortable is the crop in some photos that cuts off some odd portion of the legs (feet). There is some magic formula of how much of a limb one can cut off so that it looks fine. I don't know how to formulate it, it's just how I feel. I actually remember seeing some website about a year ago that was discussing what portion works and what does not. Unfortunately, I don't remember where it was. Those are photos: 37, 61, 45, and to a lesser extent 57, 55, 51. Well, I just googled, and found this chart: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18i6o34ozkql8jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg on this page: http://lifehacker.com/5991733/avoid-amputating-people-in-your-photos-with-this-cropping-cheat-sheet I think it works along the lines (pun intended) of my intuition. Best regards, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: cheap batteries
Oops... this message belongs to a different thread/subject. I resent it under the proper Subject line/thread response. Please disregard it here... Igor Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 20:29:10 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin Subject: Re: cheap batteries Bruce, I totally agree with you. More over, - none of the ground rules in any form of art should be taken as an absolute dogma. -- That's my sincere believe. I didn't even have much time to analyze this image for the correctness. I just used it as an example of the general trend/approach that I usually follow based on my intuition. Cheers, Igor Wed Nov 27 19:11:59 EST 2013 Bruce Walker wrote: Igor, I would take that chart with a _really_ healthy dose of salt. Other than the basic rule of don't crop at joints, I wouldn't even give that chart the time of day myself. I have seen very many great shots that violate one of their red lines. Much fashion photography seemingly breaks their guidelines repeatedly. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Derby, I had the same impressions (both), as described by Godfrey. As for specific photos, - I thought that the one on p.57 appeared a bit too dark. I especially liked photos on p.67 and 55. A rather strange pose on p.35 caught my attention. Please, excuse me, I will provide an additional comment about something that makes my eye a bit uncomfortable is the crop in some photos that cuts off some odd portion of the legs (feet). There is some magic formula of how much of a limb one can cut off so that it looks fine. I don't know how to formulate it, it's just how I feel. I actually remember seeing some website about a year ago that was discussing what portion works and what does not. Unfortunately, I don't remember where it was. Those are photos: 37, 61, 45, and to a lesser extent 57, 55, 51. Well, I just googled, and found this chart: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18i6o34ozkql8jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg on this page: http://lifehacker.com/5991733/avoid-amputating-people-in-your-photos-with-this-cropping-cheat-sheet I think it works along the lines (pun intended) of my intuition. Best regards, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Brooklyn Diner
Thanks, Don! Rick On Nov 27, 2013, at 12:04 , Don Guthrie wrote: Rick I like this one. Good composition for a street shot plus great timing. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: It's in Manhattan. Wanna make sumpin' of it? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17597035size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: TA
You could say there's an imbalance there -- too many cats and women, not enough grunting jocks YO - MARK! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: TA On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:00 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I have done nude photography five times (I think), and once with a male model. Trying to work with a male model was interesting, but frustrating as I had a hard time finding the lines and shapes interesting enough to photograph. It was not the sexual part as the pictures were partially abstract, but the beautiful curves I would look for on a female mode were impossible to find so I had to try something different. We're often told to shoot what we're passionate about. I'm fairly passionate about admiring the comely female form. Males are part of the background for me, and I just cannot imagine them as much other than props for females to lean against or something (pretty much how fashion shooters treat them too). So I'm not ready to shoot male nudes until (and if) I'm better prepared. Same with sports photography. I know nothing about sports, don't appreciate it or care for it at all. I couldn't shoot sports to save my life. You could say there's an imbalance there -- too many cats and women, not enough grunting jocks. So be it. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Black Friday Pentax sales are announced
Just in case somebody is interested in buying Pentax cameras (or lenses) other than K-3, the Black Friday sale is already advertised on PF: http://www.pentaxforums.com/cat/deals.html E.g., K-5 goes for $599 until December 2, and there are some substantial deals for lenses. I don't know if there would be any additional deals posted later. HTH, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DXO does the K3....was..Fwd: Re: K-3 review as seen through the eyes of the PF
Zos, two points that still keep me wondering: 1. I couldn't find any mention of RAW noise reduction in Imaging resource review after this link: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/K5/K5A.HTM 2. I see what the person on DPReview wrote, but I think there is a confusion and (as explained in imaging resource review) the noise reduction can be configured per ISO. I don't remember exactly, but it stands to reason that ISO 3200 is where it is set to kick in by default. Specifically, once I learned about this setting, I went and configured both of my cameras to apply no noise reduction until ISO 12800 or so. So, I'm yet unconvinced that K5 applies noise reduction at ISO 3200 just because. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the delayed reply Boris. http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/36834206 Also read the Imaging Resource and dxomarks reviews of the K-5. Pretty much all the reviews noticed the RAW NR above 1600. Given the K-5's output at 3200, Pentax made a good choice IMO. Their hardware NR is pretty decent, very clean looking, and still retains a lot of detail, especially after the raws are processed gently in lightroom. I never once objected to the engineers' decisions on the K-5 when it came to the sensor. Pentax seems to be very good at massaging maximum performance out of a sensor. The K-3 IMO looks very good too. A 50% increase in density with similar noise and DR over the previous generation is very good IMO. The next round of chips will likely be even better. What's not to like? The K-5 I have is very good in IQ. I'll keep shooting it till it doesn't take pictures anymore. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: The source of information that indicates that K-5 applies smoothing to RAW files even if I specifically set its settings not to do so. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: The source for K-5 raw smoothing? The source for resized K3 files? What source do you speak of Mr Boris? :P On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/26/2013 6:38 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Also I must add that the k-5 does some definite noise reduction to the raw files over iso 1600, whether that's in the imaging pipeline or the firmware is neither hear nor there at this point. At 3200 on the k-5 you are most certainly trading resolution for image quality. I don't have any real figures, but I feel that looking at the files from my k-5, its easily giving up quite a bit of resolution due to noise smoothing. From what I can gather the K-3 is resolving more fine detail but yet showing similar amounts of noise when resized to k-5 resolution. That's what I have seen with my own eyes at least. To be honest they are pretty close and careful raw processing will result with more detail in the k-3 files with similar noise levels. I find pentax's jpeg engine to be not the greatest at noise reduction, but honestly, its better than some other camera makers too. Zos, can you please point me to the source of that information? I'm extremely interested to *know*. Thanks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
