Re: ColorSynch working color space (Was Re: Printing Raw Problems)

2005-03-06 Thread David Mann
On Mar 6, 2005, at 1:17 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Later someone told me that if I change the color space in ColorSynch 
Preferences, PhotoShop will use that space in ColoSynch.
This is correct, if Photoshop's working space has been set to 
ColorSync.  I don't remember if this is the default Mac setting.

 Am I losing some of the gamut by using generic rgb?
Compared to what?  FWIW Generic RGB is a little bit smaller than sRGB, 
looks like the difference is mainly in the red channel.  Adobe is 
bigger than sRGB, mostly in the green.  These changes might not matter 
much as the final printed result also depends on the capabilities of 
their printing processes.

If your files are going to press then I'd suggest using Adobe RGB as 
it's pretty much an industry standard.  It'd pay to ask your clients if 
they have a preference.  Just make sure you record your current setup 
in case something breaks and you have to revert :)

  I decided to try something else yesterday, so I I checked my 
preference list in ColorSynch, and I don't have a lot of conventional 
color space choices listed. I have some that Epson supplied. So I 
tried Epson Wide Gamut. The results were less saturated, and not 
very nice, so I restored my previous settings. Can I load other color 
space choices into the ColorSynch utility? Should I try something 
other than my reliable generic rgb?
As far as I know you can specify any profile that's been installed on 
your system.  Just make sure that you choose a device-independent 
colour space (ie not a printer, scanner or monitor space).

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: Color space

2005-03-06 Thread David Mann
On Mar 6, 2005, at 2:22 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
OK, that makes sense.  But then, by the same token, wouldn't it make 
just
as much sense to scan using a profile with an even wider gamut?
You can do this if you want, but there are tradeoffs involved...
There's no point using a colour space that greatly exceeds the 
capabilities of your scanner as you end up being able represent colours 
that your scanner can't even produce in the first place.

As a result, a wider gamut working space means worse tonality for the 
same bit-depth as the same range of numbers have to represent a larger 
range of colours, so the discrete colour change from one value to the 
next is larger.  Practically speaking, this is only really important if 
you work in 24-bit colour.  48-bit colour is a good thing despite the 
increase in CPU, memory and disk space requirements for processing and 
archiving.

Most raw photos will fit within sRGB.  If you're making adjustments 
that affect the saturation you may need to be careful about gamut 
clipping.  If you keep today's printing technology in mind then you'll 
be limited if a new process comes along... but only if you actually 
need highly saturated colours.

Also bear in mind that not many monitors are capable of displaying much 
outside of sRGB.

Choosing the perfect working space is a real can of worms and it 
depends on your equipment and your long-term intentions.  Luckily, for 
most people, it doesn't make a big difference as long as the process 
works (ie calibrated screens, files saved with embedded profiles and 
the lab being able to cope with them).

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/


Re: Various Lens Tests (may be long)

2005-03-06 Thread Alan Chan
The only question I have is, can you tell us there was no focus error for the 
tests
you conducted? Did you rely on AF, MF, or MF with magnifier? Just curious. If 
DA14
didn't perform that well, I wonder how it compared to K/A15/3.5.

--- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Today I tested various lenses on an adobe (mud brick) wall. This is a 
 good subject because such walls have joints, cracks, mortar, rock 
 inclusions, etc., that give lots of details. All shots were done on a 
 tripod, in RAW, then compared onscreen at actual pixels. The only thing 
 done to the images was Auto Levels in PS, before conversion to TIFF.
 
 I mainly wanted to test the FA 20 f2.8 against the DA 16-45 f4 at 20 mm. 
 Various people don't like the FA 20 (or its predecessor, the A 20) 
 because of corner weakness at wider apertures. So I wanted to see how it 
 compares to my main alternative for that focal length. Partly just for 
 fun and partly for serious results, I also tested the DA 14 f2.8, 
 Zenitar 16 mm. f2.8 fisheye, and the FA 16-45 at 16 mm. Finally I tested 
 the FA 20-35 f4 at 20 mm. to compare it to the DA 16-45 at 20 mm. Sit 
 back. Some of the results are interesting.
 
 1. FA 20 vs. DA 16-45 at 20 mm.:
 
 Both lenses wide open (FA 20 at f2.8; DA 16-45 at f4): The FA 20 is 
 sharper in the center, at the edges, and in the corners. With both 
 lenses at f4 and f5.6 the results are the same (the FA 20 is sharper). 
 At f8, center and edge sharpness of the two lenses are very close. The 
 DA may be very slightly better. The FA is better in the corners.
 
 Yes, I know that some of you are thinking that it is nuts to compare a 
 prime to a zoom. Of course the prime is better. Right? Well, read on.
 
 2. FA 20-35 at 20 mm. vs. DA 16-45 at 20 mm. (just for curiousity; both 
 are well regarded zooms):
 
 At f4 the FA lens is better all over. At f5.6 the FA is better in the 
 center, but the DA is better at the edges and in the corners. F8 gives 
 the same result, except that the center difference is quite slight.
 
 3. DA 14 vs. DA 16-45 at 16 mm.
 
 Prime lenses are always sharper than zooms, right? With both lenses wide 
 open (f4 on the zoom, f2.8 on the DA 14), the DA 16-45 is sharper in the 
 center and at the edges. The corners are close. At f4 (wide open for the 
 zoom, closed down for the prime) the DA 16-45 is sharper in the center, 
 at the edges, and in the corners (although the edges and corners are 
 close). At f5.6 and f8, the zoom is sharper than the prime all across 
 the field of view.
 
 So sometimes it pays to compare apples and oranges.
 
 4. Now the fun part. Zenitar 16 mm. f2.8 fisheye vs. DA 14 f2.8. Guess 
 what? The Zenitar is sharper across the field of view, at all apertures 
 from f2.8 to f8.
 
 5. Zenitar vs. DA 16-45 at 16 mm:
 
 F4 (DA) vs. f2.8 (Zenitar): The Zenitar is better across the viewing 
 area. F 4, 5.6, and 8 (both lenses): The Zenitar is sharper across the 
 board.
 
 6. So now a contest between the day's two champions: the FA 20 f2.8 vs. 
 the Zenitar 16 f2.8. This test was hard to evaluate because the edges 
 and corners of the FA 20 were quite difficult to compare to the edges 
 and corners rendered by the Zenitar. At all apertures from f2.8 to f8, 
 the Zenitar was slightly sharper in the center, while the FA 20 may have 
 bettered it at the edges and in the corners.
 
 The inexpensive little Russian lens wins the day for sharpness. What a 
 pity it has such distortion. What a pity they never developed a 
 rectilinear version of it.
 
 Other curious findings. If you set your D or DS to mtf program line, it 
 will tell you that the DA 16-45 is sharpest at f4 from 16-28 mm., and at 
 f4.5 from 28 to 45 mm. Well, in my tests at 16 and 20 mm. today, 
 sharpness increases from f4 to f5.6 to f8 at both focal lengths. I 
 cannot confirm Pentax's belief that this lens is sharpest at f4 below 28 mm.
 
 The DA 14 came out worst in these tests. This doesn't mean that it is a 
 bad lens. The evaluation was done at actual pixels, and in actual use 
 you would have to go to an enormous enlargement to see the differences I 
 was looking at. I haven't given this lens enough real-world use yet to 
 know if I am disappointed in it for the price.
 
 It was the corner performance of the FA 20 f2.8 that prompted me to do 
 these tests. The FA 20 gave the best corner results of any of these 
 lenses. Could it be better in the corners? Perhaps. But I see no reason 
 to slight it if we don't also slight the DA 16-45 and the DA 14 for 
 their corners.
 
 Joe


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Re: Various Lens Tests (may be long)

2005-03-06 Thread mike wilson
Don Sanderson wrote:
That's interesting info Joe.
The only 2 of these I own are the Zenitar and the DA 16-45.
I've been quite disappointed in the Zenitar in terms of
contrast and overall image quality compared to the DA at
16mm.
Distortion not withstanding, I've found the images from the
Zenitar to be quite soft and with poor color rendition.
After reading about the clear filter being 'required' I dug
out the Zenitar and compared it again to the 16-45 after
double checking that the filter was indeed in place.
Unless I have a specific use for the distortion of the
Zenitar my moneys still on the DA.
Zenitar problem perfectly highlighted.  Quality control.
mike


RE: Focusing screen for *ist-DS

2005-03-06 Thread Simon King

I ordered mine from my local photo shop as I like to support business
that have done the right thing by me in the past.
It cost AU$45 - and it's no brighter (or dimmer) than the standard
screen.
Simon

-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 6:59 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Focusing screen for *ist-DS



- Original Message - 
From: jtainter
Subject: Re: Focusing screen for *ist-DS


 Dealers don't seem to have them but Pentax US does, and you can order 
 them direct. They cost about $70 apiece. Call customer service tell 
 them what you want. The number is 800-877-0155.

 
 I just ordered the LL-60 from Pentax USA. They have lots of them
 in stock. Cost is $44 plus $5.00 shipping.

Wow, you guys are getting creamed.
I paid just a tad over 40 Canadian for my LL-60.
I've got two more on the way for a couple of wise Americans who can 
wait a little bit.
They should be here fairly soon, I do believe.

Is this considered dumping?

William Robb





Re: Psychology Question

2005-03-06 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A friend of mine managed to get 80286 as the last five digits in 
his
phone number.

Yeah, but can you run Linu.oh, wait.  Wrong list.
AHA!! A fellow cartoon geek! :-)
http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/peanuts/meet_the_gang/meet_linus.html
nietsoJ



Re: OT - Thermador Cooker

2005-03-06 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Any USA listers (or in fact any listers at all) have any experience 
of
Thermador cookers? I'm looking at a professional 48 inch duel fuel 
(gas
top, electric oven) unit and wondered about reliability and quality, 
etc.

Interesting. Not much of a duel, though, if they're always on separate 
floors...

Jostein 



Re: Various Lens Tests (may be long)

2005-03-06 Thread Jostein
Thanks for asking, Boris... :-)
I haven't really made up my mind yet. Remember that the FA20 never 
left the bag in Israel... I will need to do some shooting for specific 
testing purposes to qualify my opinions.

Cheers,
Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Various Lens Tests (may be long)


Hi!
Joe, that was one fascinating reading, at least to me.
I suggest you obtain another instance of Zenitar and try it. My 
belief is that Zenitars suffer from sample variation. Your sample 
could be among the best...

We need to ask Jostein about DA 16-45. He recently got one and may 
have something to say :).

Boris



Re: Various Lens Tests (may be long)

2005-03-06 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also, has anyone yet had their hands on the DA 50-200?  ...or does 
it currently only exist on the Pentax website? ;)
Seen it behind glass, and talked to a guy who had an early sample with 
him to Africa for holidays. He was personally pleased, but I haven't 
seen any of his shots. I think it's not officially for sale just yet.

Jostein 



Re: OT - Thermador Cooker

2005-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/3/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I had you down as a Smeg head...

http://www.smeguk.com/catalogue.htm

UGH.




Cheers,
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Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Sunday, March 6, 2005, 12:42:35 AM, Amita wrote:

 It's time for me to buy a new monitor, and I'd like to get an LCD. Obviously
 I am concerned about viewing and editing photos  on an LCD monitor. Do any
 of you have an LCD monitor that you can recommend for photography? Most
 hardware review sites don't seem to be too concerned with color fidelity and
 other such concerns.

I have a Dell Precision M50 laptop, which was pitched at the
professional CAD market. It has a 15, 1600x1200 resolution, 64Mb
Quadro 4 500 GoGL something. I don't know what it means, but it's very
good and perfectly suitable for my purposes. It's not a separate
screen, but there are sure to be better ones available separately
nowadays - this is about 3 years old.

Undoubtedly you could get a CRT which is better suited to photography,
but the top end professional monitors are really expensive, and large,
and that level of investment really means you need properly equipped,
standardised viewing conditions otherwise you're wasting a lot of your
money.

Bear in mind that you can't actually calibrate an LCD. That is, you
can't really change the screen settings to match a standard. Instead
you have to profile it, which means you record the settings it has and
your software maps your photos onto the screen's profile.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: OT - Thermador Cooker

2005-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:27:35 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/3/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I had you down as a Smeg head...
 
 http://www.smeguk.com/catalogue.htm
 
 UGH.
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty

Bob, I think that translates roughly to  Smeg off!  g
-- 
Scott Loveless
Born free.  Taxed to death.



Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hmmm. You haven't been in too many studios lately, have you? At Acme 
Photo, where they do a lot of Detroit's car photography, they have a 
whole bank of 30-inch Apple Cinema Displays that are used for RAW 
conversions and retouching. And a number of other pros I've talked to 
have been singing the praises of that giant screen.
Paul
On Mar 5, 2005, at 11:07 PM, Jens Bladt wrote:

LCD monitors are too contrasty. Photopro's don't use them. Niether do 
I.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. marts 2005 01:43
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: LCD monitors?
It's time for me to buy a new monitor, and I'd like to get an LCD. 
Obviously
I am concerned about viewing and editing photos  on an LCD monitor. Do 
any
of you have an LCD monitor that you can recommend for photography? Most
hardware review sites don't seem to be too concerned with color 
fidelity and
other such concerns.

Thanks in advance,
Amita




Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 Mar 2005 at 9:50, Bob W wrote:
 
 Bear in mind that you can't actually calibrate an LCD. That is, you
 can't really change the screen settings to match a standard. Instead
 you have to profile it, which means you record the settings it has and
 your software maps your photos onto the screen's profile.

Regardless of the profiling the gamma varies from the top to the bottom of the 
screen on any current LCD/TFT, my 19 (Mitsubishi) and 15 (Dell) TFT are both 
fine in the middle but dodgy at the top and bottom. My 22 CRT however is great 
across the whole screen.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: OT - Thermador Cooker

2005-03-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 Mar 2005 at 7:02, Scott Loveless wrote:

 On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:27:35 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 6/3/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  I had you down as a Smeg head...
  
  http://www.smeguk.com/catalogue.htm
  
  UGH.
  
  
  Cheers,
Cotty
 
 Bob, I think that translates roughly to  Smeg off!  g

No that's AGA


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HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Color space

2005-03-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Mar 2005 at 16:49, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 It just seems right to me.  I can see the colors and tones throughout the
 process, and there are no surprises when converting at the end of the editing
 process.  As you know, Rob, my technical skills and knowledge are pretty
 minimal, and this just feels right to me.  It wouldn't surprise me if 
 there's
 a better way, or an easier way, but I am happy in my ignorance and compulsive
 work processes.  One day someone may show me an alternative, I'll slap my
 forehead, and gasp at the simplicity of the new-to-me technique and wonder 
 aloud
 why I hadn't thought of it.  OTOH, I can't think of a thing that's not right
 with the process.  And as long as I can get what I see on the screen on the
 final print, I'm happy.

Fair enough, question answered :-)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 6 Mar 2005 at 7:08, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Hmmm. You haven't been in too many studios lately, have you? At Acme 
 Photo, where they do a lot of Detroit's car photography, they have a 
 whole bank of 30-inch Apple Cinema Displays that are used for RAW 
 conversions and retouching. And a number of other pros I've talked to 
 have been singing the praises of that giant screen.

So what is their technical departments criterion for monitor selection, 
reduction in heat load, savings in desk space, ease of system integration or 
image quality?

There is nothing to indicate in your example that the monitors have been 
selected simply due to advantages in image quality. 

I recently had to replace my monitor and had the option of TFT or CRT, I chose 
CRT as image quality and specifically gamma accuracy and contrast range were my 
primary criterion.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I asked a similar question about 3 moths ago (my 17''
CRT burned). The responses that I got weren't
encouraging regarding LCD's and photo editing, so I
finally ended up buyimg a Samsung 17'' CRT for 1/3 the
cost of a 17'' LCD and I am quite happy. However, I
hope that technology evolves so that my next one can
be a LCD with good color fidelity...

Regards,
Jaume

--- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's time for me to buy a new monitor, and I'd like
 to get an LCD. Obviously
 I am concerned about viewing and editing photos  on
 an LCD monitor. Do any
 of you have an LCD monitor that you can recommend
 for photography? Most
 hardware review sites don't seem to be too concerned
 with color fidelity and
 other such concerns.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Amita
 
 
 




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Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree that the best CRT monitors can still deliver better image 
quality than the best TFT monitors, but it comes at a price. I was 
merely responding to a message claiming that all photography 
professionals use CRT monitors. It just isn't the case. I think one 
factor that has driven many photographers to the Apple Cinema Display 
in particular is ease of system integration. It's basically plug and 
play on a Macintosh. And the image quality is quite adequate for all 
conversion and retouching tasks.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2005, at 8:26 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 6 Mar 2005 at 7:08, Paul Stenquist wrote:
Hmmm. You haven't been in too many studios lately, have you? At Acme
Photo, where they do a lot of Detroit's car photography, they have a
whole bank of 30-inch Apple Cinema Displays that are used for RAW
conversions and retouching. And a number of other pros I've talked to
have been singing the praises of that giant screen.
So what is their technical departments criterion for monitor selection,
reduction in heat load, savings in desk space, ease of system 
integration or
image quality?

There is nothing to indicate in your example that the monitors have 
been
selected simply due to advantages in image quality.

I recently had to replace my monitor and had the option of TFT or CRT, 
I chose
CRT as image quality and specifically gamma accuracy and contrast 
range were my
primary criterion.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Various Lens Tests (may be long)

2005-03-06 Thread Pentxuser
Good work Joe. I would love to see the M or A 15mm thrown into the mix...
Vic 



Re: Whee! (Enablement!)

2005-03-06 Thread brooksdj
Congrat's John.

I think you'll like playin with the 6x7. Try a rool of chrome:-)

I have the metered finder,but seldom use it,so if you have a decent handheld,i 
doubt
you'll miss it.

Dave Brooks  


 Long story short, we drove down to Monterey and I walked out of Camera West 
 with my own 6x7, a 105 2.4 lens and a roll of Tri-X 400 to play with.  Sean, 
 the fellow who helped me, was really great to work with, and got me all set 
 up to shoot.  Only thing I really wanted but couldn't afford was a metered 
 finder, but I can get by without that for now.  I was grinning for the rest 
 of the day; no buyer's remorse for this Pentax nut!

 John Celio





PZ 28-105 and istD question

2005-03-06 Thread brooksdj

Hey gang.
Finally am getting over this cold,so i went out on a driving tour yesterday.
For just about all of the 450  odd frames shot so far, i have used either my A 
28 or A50
with the
odd Sigma 100-300 or the Pentaz PZ 28-105.
I had the 28-105 on the istD for some icefishing shots on Lake Simcoe and i 
found a
sporatic snag
using it. Just womdering if anyones else had this happen or offer an 
explanation.
At both extreme ends,28 and 105,sometimes when i try and AF on the 
subject,(infinety) i
can hear the
lens TRY and focus. It makes a noise but nothing happpend. The red focus dot 
comes on and
the green
focus confirmation light just blinks and the lens tries to focus. If i move it 
off 105 or
28 just a
tad,it focuses.

However it does not do this everytime. I tried it on a good contrast scene and 
it di it
then to.


Any ideas.? Battery idicator shows full. I have AA Liths in ther now,with about 
400 shots.

I tried the Sigma 100-300 and it does not seem to have this problem(so far) 


Dave





Additional info: PZ 28-105 and istD question

2005-03-06 Thread brooksdj
Should have added that the lens works 
fine on the PZ-1

 Dave






Re: More enablement

2005-03-06 Thread Frantisek
`MX's mirror-lock-up-trick:

Put the camera on tripod, cocked. Lightly but quickly tap the shutter
release with your finger, preferably from a height, so that you do not
press it but just tap it, and your finger bounces back. If you do it
right, mirror will spring up, but shutter won't open untill you press
the release again. Totally safe to your camera (perhaps unless you have one
with severely worn shutter rod, which I doubt as it would work
reliably anyway before the trick)

With some practice, this trick works 95% of time, easily,
consistently. I have done it even with handheld camera.

Good light!
   fra



RE: More enablement

2005-03-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Yeah, the same with the K1000!
Jens

Jens Bladt
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Fra: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 6. marts 2005 15:19
Til: Thibouille
Emne: Re: More enablement


`MX's mirror-lock-up-trick:

Put the camera on tripod, cocked. Lightly but quickly tap the shutter
release with your finger, preferably from a height, so that you do not
press it but just tap it, and your finger bounces back. If you do it
right, mirror will spring up, but shutter won't open untill you press
the release again. Totally safe to your camera (perhaps unless you have one
with severely worn shutter rod, which I doubt as it would work
reliably anyway before the trick)

With some practice, this trick works 95% of time, easily,
consistently. I have done it even with handheld camera.

Good light!
   fra




The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Don Sanderson
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120

Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!

Don



Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/6/2005 4:11:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Regardless of the profiling the gamma varies from the top to the bottom of 
the 
screen on any current LCD/TFT, my 19 (Mitsubishi) and 15 (Dell) TFT are 
both 
fine in the middle but dodgy at the top and bottom. My 22 CRT however is 
great 
across the whole screen.


Rob Studdert
=
I must be one of the few that doesn't like LCDs. Admittedly, I haven't seen a 
great one, and the main one I see is the one on my laptop. But to me they 
lack depth. And I don't like they way they are off color or have a shine or 
whatever you want to call it, if they are tipped a certain way. So I can't see 
how they could be color consistent across the screen.

Since you can't calibrate an LCD, it seems to me if you buy a screen 
specifically for doing photography work, right now, it should be a CRT. IMHO. 
Not 
that I know THAT much about it. But not all *new* technology is great just 
because it is new. Or not technology is suited to all purposes.

Marnie aka Doe   Being ignorant has never stopped me from having an opinion. 
:-)



Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Jaume Lahuerta
Subject: Re: LCD monitors?


I asked a similar question about 3 moths ago (my 17''
CRT burned). The responses that I got weren't
encouraging regarding LCD's and photo editing, so I
finally ended up buyimg a Samsung 17'' CRT for 1/3 the
cost of a 17'' LCD and I am quite happy. However, I
hope that technology evolves so that my next one can
be a LCD with good color fidelity...

And dot pitch.
My CRT is a .20 dot pitch, my LCT is something like .28
I don't think it is a matter of the technology evolving, so much as
coming down to a price the common man can afford for something 
usable.
I paid almost a thousand dollars for my 17 LCD, compared to about
400 for my 17 CRT.

William Robb



Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Don Sanderson 
Subject: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
I think I'm a millionaire
William Robb


Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread glenn murphy
Hi everybody,
I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of a H3V 
with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a screwmount 
camera before and don't really know much about them. The lens came with 
a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. Does anyone know what 
size/type cap I need and have any guess where I might find one? This 
lens doesn't quite look like any of the pictures I've seen on the web of 
this model. It has a silver filter ring which seems to stick out further 
from the front element than on the all-black ones I've seen. Any help 
would be appreciated.

Glenn


Re: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: glenn murphy
Subject: Super Tak lens caps?


Hi everybody,
I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of 
a H3V with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a 
screwmount camera before and don't really know much about them. The 
lens came with a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. 
Does anyone know what size/type cap I need and have any guess where 
I might find one? This lens doesn't quite look like any of the 
pictures I've seen on the web of this model. It has a silver filter 
ring which seems to stick out further from the front element than 
on the all-black ones I've seen. Any help would be appreciated.
I would think that any 49mm clip on cap would work.
Have you tried putting a cap from another lens onto it to see?
You can mix and match caps without causing famine.
William Robb 




Re: More enablement

2005-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
My K1000 makes mirror lockup easy.  The MX so far is not cooperating
in this department.  I've heard that it really depends on the specific
body - some will do it, some won't.

Photos of the MX taken with the world's crappiest digicam are here:
http://www.twosixteen.com/sdl

I'm really liking this camera.  Thanks, Mr. Robb!


-- 
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Born free.  Taxed to death.



Re: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread Jim Hemenway
The original slip-on cap's inside diameter is 51mm.
Filters are 49mm
Jim

glenn murphy wrote:
Hi everybody,
I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of a H3V 
with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a screwmount 
camera before and don't really know much about them. The lens came with 
a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. Does anyone know what 
size/type cap I need and have any guess where I might find one? This 
lens doesn't quite look like any of the pictures I've seen on the web of 
this model. It has a silver filter ring which seems to stick out further 
from the front element than on the all-black ones I've seen. Any help 
would be appreciated.

Glenn




Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 09:02:31 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Don Sanderson
 Subject: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
 
  Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
 

http://www.keh.com/shop/SHOWPRODUCT.CFM?CRID=10208677SKID=PK06009013540N3SID=newusedBID=PKCID=06SOID=Ncurpic=0dpsp=0
I hope this winner isn't reading this!

-- 
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Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
The La Cie 22-inch CRT has a dot pitch of .24, ditto the Mitsubishi 
Diamond Pro and the $5000 Mitsubishi Diamondtron. The LCD Apple Cinema 
Display is .258. Not a significant difference.
On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:57 AM, William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - From: Jaume Lahuerta
Subject: Re: LCD monitors?

I asked a similar question about 3 moths ago (my 17''
CRT burned). The responses that I got weren't
encouraging regarding LCD's and photo editing, so I
finally ended up buyimg a Samsung 17'' CRT for 1/3 the
cost of a 17'' LCD and I am quite happy. However, I
hope that technology evolves so that my next one can
be a LCD with good color fidelity...

And dot pitch.
My CRT is a .20 dot pitch, my LCT is something like .28
I don't think it is a matter of the technology evolving, so much as
coming down to a price the common man can afford for something usable.
I paid almost a thousand dollars for my 17 LCD, compared to about
400 for my 17 CRT.
William Robb




PAW: People Portraits 2005 #11

2005-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/11.htm

Comments and critique always appreciated.

Godfrey

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Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
It was a mistake. The second to the last bid was $38. The last bid was 
$391.
On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
Don



Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
My mistake. The auction was at $38. Then someone bid $391, apparently 
by accident. That was followed by a $396 bid. That last bid was 
probably from a bidder who set his final bid ridiculously high, just to 
make sure he won in a snipe out. However, he wasn't counting on someone 
bidding very high by mistake. Live and learn. He's an auction newbie.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
Don



Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #11

2005-03-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice light and exposure. And while I'm intrigued by the unusual 
composition, I'm left feeling hungry for just a bit more. However, that 
could be seen as part of what makes it interesting. Good, thought 
provoking work.
Paul
On Mar 6, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/11.htm
Comments and critique always appreciated.
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Re: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread glenn murphy
A 49mm or 52mm clip-on slips all the way between the threads, 58mm is 
too big. The H1A/H3V manual says it uses 49 filters and 51 caps, and I'm 
not sure why they'd be different.

Glenn

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: glenn murphy
Subject: Super Tak lens caps?

Hi everybody,
I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of a 
H3V with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a 
screwmount camera before and don't really know much about them. The 
lens came with a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. Does 
anyone know what size/type cap I need and have any guess where I 
might find one? This lens doesn't quite look like any of the pictures 
I've seen on the web of this model. It has a silver filter ring which 
seems to stick out further from the front element than on the 
all-black ones I've seen. Any help would be appreciated.

I would think that any 49mm clip on cap would work.
Have you tried putting a cap from another lens onto it to see?
You can mix and match caps without causing famine.
William Robb




RE: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
No longer the case, Jens. 

Godfrey

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 Niether do I.
 





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PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
I was going to save this for later in the week, and make it a PAW, but
we're supposed to get a couple more inches of snow today (but it might
turn to rain later in the afternoon - yuck!), so today seemed an
appropriate day to post this.

Taken a bit more than a month ago right smack in the middle of the
central shopping district at noon on a Saturday.  Normally, the place
would be jammed with cars and pedestrians.  It's not a blizzard as
the average windspeed was only 40 km/h (about 25 mph), although gusts
were much higher.  Environment Canada's definition of a blizzard is
snow with average winds of over 50 km/h (30mph).

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3173937size=lg

We always encourage comments, and thank you in advance should you
choose to do so.

cheers,
frank
-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #11

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 07:33:49 -0800 (PST), Godfrey DiGiorgi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/11.htm
 
 Comments and critique always appreciated.
 

Interesting, but I'm not sure exactly what my reaction is.  There's a
lot of empty space (not a criticism;  merely an observation) that
I'm not sure as an observer how to process.

It seems to break a lot of rules, but I have to say there's something
compelling about it none-the-less.

I think I'll have to spend more time looking at this one to get into
it.  If a photo makes one look at it, that must be a good thing.

g

cheers,
frank

-- 
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Re: PAW: People Portraits 2005 #11

2005-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/11.htm

 Very nice light and exposure. And while I'm intrigued by the
 unusual composition, I'm left feeling hungry for just a bit
 more. However, that could be seen as part of what makes it
 interesting. ...

Thanks Paul! 
Yes, you get the idea in this one... :-)

Godfrey




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Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard

2005-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:51:34 -0500, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was going to save this for later in the week, and make it a PAW, but
 we're supposed to get a couple more inches of snow today (but it might
 turn to rain later in the afternoon - yuck!), so today seemed an
 appropriate day to post this.
 
 Taken a bit more than a month ago right smack in the middle of the
 central shopping district at noon on a Saturday.  Normally, the place
 would be jammed with cars and pedestrians.  It's not a blizzard as
 the average windspeed was only 40 km/h (about 25 mph), although gusts
 were much higher.  Environment Canada's definition of a blizzard is
 snow with average winds of over 50 km/h (30mph).
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3173937size=lg
 
 We always encourage comments, and thank you in advance should you
 choose to do so.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 
I like it.  Good exposure.  You've pretty much captured that classic
Leica BW feel.  Too bad about the car on the other side of the street
with it's lights on, but I'm guessing you weren't going to stand out
there much longer waiting for a better shot, blizzard or not.  g 
BTW, do you use a filter with HP5?  I usually don't use a filter at
all, and have not had good results with HP5.
-- 
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Born free.  Taxed to death.



M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm

2005-03-06 Thread Jens Bladt
I took a few test shots today.
To see how the SMC-M 4/200mm is doing.
Not so bad - compared to the SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm.
I think the prime is the sharper lens of the two.

Both photographs shot at f 5.6 and app. 1/2000 sec. handheld.
No editing except autolevels and very little cropping (almost the full
frames).

See for yourself: http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p12447314.html
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt




RE: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Don Sanderson
I bid $1000.00 once for a 330FTZ flash.
Meant to bid $100.00, fortunately it only
went to $77.00, whew!

Don 

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:40 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
 
 
 My mistake. The auction was at $38. Then someone bid $391, apparently 
 by accident. That was followed by a $396 bid. That last bid was 
 probably from a bidder who set his final bid ridiculously high, just to 
 make sure he won in a snipe out. However, he wasn't counting on someone 
 bidding very high by mistake. Live and learn. He's an auction newbie.
 Paul
 On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
 
  Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
 
  Don
 
 



Re: PESO -- Rock not Roll

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 21:51:12 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Self explanatory, in context with the picture.
 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_rnr.html
 
 As usual comments are welcome, but may be completely ignored.
 

Ooo!

Now ~that~ might look cool taken with a fisheye (says the guy with a
relatively new fisheye g).

That comment is not intended to take anything away from the image as
presented, however, which is a good photo.

Nice composition of what could be a mundane object.  The cleft, shadow
and snow on the rock make it quite interesting to look at.  Good
capture when the light was right.

cheers,
frank 


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Re: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread Graywolf
The only thing between 52 and 58 is 55mm. Usually it says the filter size on the 
lens. That would be separate from the 1:1.8/55mm, like (theta sign)55. Also the 
filter should be marked with the size. The lens originally came with a metal 
push-on cap about 3mm larger than the filter size. If my memomory serves 
correctly of my H3, bought new in '61 or so, 55mm was the correct size for the 
55/1.8 Super Takumar. I think some of the later ST lenses used a smaller filter 
however, so your camera may have an eariler lens than the manual you have is 
talking about.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
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---
glenn murphy wrote:
A 49mm or 52mm clip-on slips all the way between the threads, 58mm is 
too big. The H1A/H3V manual says it uses 49 filters and 51 caps, and I'm 
not sure why they'd be different.

Glenn

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: glenn murphy
Subject: Super Tak lens caps?

Hi everybody,
I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of a 
H3V with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a 
screwmount camera before and don't really know much about them. The 
lens came with a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. Does 
anyone know what size/type cap I need and have any guess where I 
might find one? This lens doesn't quite look like any of the pictures 
I've seen on the web of this model. It has a silver filter ring which 
seems to stick out further from the front element than on the 
all-black ones I've seen. Any help would be appreciated.

I would think that any 49mm clip on cap would work.
Have you tried putting a cap from another lens onto it to see?
You can mix and match caps without causing famine.
William Robb




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Re: Color space

2005-03-06 Thread George Sinos
Replying to several comments on color space -

Mark Roberts posted this link to Dry Creek's web site with an
interactive 3D model that let's you compare color spaces:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/color_spaces.htm

Playing with the model a bit has pretty much convinced me that I'm not
losing much, if anything, by using sRGB.  Given that I'm not working
with a client or printing press process that requires something
different.

It boils down to this.  I can't see anything outside of the sRGB
colorspace on my monitor.  I can't print anything outside of the sRGB
colorspace on my printer.  The lab I work with uses a Fuji processor
with Chrystal Archive paper.  It can't print anything outside of the
sRGB color space.

So, using any colorspace other than sRGB just adds more invisible
unpredictability to my process.

If things change in the future and we get common devices that are
capable of more, I can always go back to my original RAW files and
reconvert.

Until then, I don't see any reason to convert my files to a color
space I can't see on my monitor and can't print on my printer.

See you later, gs



Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:00:41 -0500, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I like it.  Good exposure.  You've pretty much captured that classic
 Leica BW feel.  Too bad about the car on the other side of the street
 with it's lights on, but I'm guessing you weren't going to stand out
 there much longer waiting for a better shot, blizzard or not.  g
 BTW, do you use a filter with HP5?  I usually don't use a filter at
 all, and have not had good results with HP5.
 --

Thanks, Scott!

Nope, no filter other than a UV.  I really don't feel like paying
(what seem to me to be) exhorbitant prices on eBay for little teeny
39mm filters, although I would like a yellow or orange filter for that
camera, just to darken skies just a bit on sunny days.  Mind you, I
rarely have that camera pointed in a direction that the sky's in the
frame anyway g.

In terms of the composition, I actually don't mind the car over there.
 I kind of feel that seeing only one car is a stronger statement that
the storm kept cars off the road than if there were no cars at all. 
I'm not criticizing your critique, BTW, just given my POV.

I have to say, though, I snapped the pedestrian's photo, paying more
attention to where she was in the frame than anything in the
background.  There were so few pedestrians on the sidewalks that day,
and I could see that the wind was gusting just then, blowing her hair
just so, and I felt that it was her or (maybe) no one.

HP5+?  I like it a lot, both in the CL and in my Pentax SLR's.  It's a
bit less contrasty than TriX (my favourite bw ISO 400 film - maybe
my favourite overall), but I find it's mid-greys more silky (don't
know how better to describe it) than TriX.

Thanks for looking and commenting.

cheers,
frank


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Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Graywolf
It must be the new *istDS owners. That lens only cost about $125 new, and hasn't 
a great reputation (the 3.5 was better). I guess these insane new prices mean I 
will never own that M20/4.0 I have always wanted. You guys who stocked up on 
older Pentax lenses when they were cheap are going to be rich, Don.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
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---
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
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Re: More PESOs

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:07:21 +, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip  Being thrashed with birch twigs in the banya by a nubile 26 year
 old is a special memory - and I'm not sure which part of that phrase is
 the bit that brings back good feelings 8-
 

I'm not sure how to respond to that one LOL

cheers,
frank 


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Home again

2005-03-06 Thread Bill Owens
Just returned home from 4 days in the hospital.  Still sore around the 
colostomy, but the PIA from the ulcer is gone.

Bill 




Re: PAW: snow covered landscape

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 21:24:06 +0100, Bernd Scheffler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I always enjoy to have a look at those PAWs, PESOs, etc. so I feel the need
 to contribute. Taken this afternoon.
 *istDs, 16mm, F8, 1/750s, exp.corr. +1.5, ISO200; color balance and
 brightness slightly corrected
 
 http://people.freenet.de/bienenbernd/TEMP/Schnee.JPG
 
 Best, Bernd
 

Lots to like in this one, a few things I'm not so sure about.

I think the composition is strong, with that big old strong tree trunk
on the right.  It really anchors the shot for me.  The fenceline
with the trees (I like the fallen one) is nice, as is that strong
element of the horizon with the dark trees in the background.

The flare, I'm undecided about.  At first I didn't think much of it,
but I'm actually coming to think that it may be a positive thing - it
seems to add to the feeling of cold in the photo.

The tilted horizon I've decided is the only thing in this one that I
don't like.  I know, I know, I tilt shots a lot, but for this type of
landscape, with it's strong geometrical elements, I wonder if a
straight horizon might make it an even stronger image.

Overall, though, I think it's still a very good photo.

BTW, it's cold here, too. vbg

cheers,
frank


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Re: More enablement

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: More enablement


My K1000 makes mirror lockup easy.  The MX so far is not 
cooperating
in this department.  I've heard that it really depends on the 
specific
body - some will do it, some won't.
Rather than tapping on the shutter button, try twacking it obliquely 
(sort of snpping in reverse).
That was how I learned the trick, and it seems to work well.

Photos of the MX taken with the world's crappiest digicam are here:
http://www.twosixteen.com/sdl
I like mine better G
I'm really liking this camera.  Thanks, Mr. Robb!
Yer welcome.
William Robb



Re: LCD monitors?

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: LCD monitors?


The La Cie 22-inch CRT has a dot pitch of .24, ditto the Mitsubishi 
Diamond Pro and the $5000 Mitsubishi Diamondtron. The LCD Apple 
Cinema Display is .258. Not a significant difference.
Reread the part about the price evolving into something that can be 
afforded by the common man.

William Robb 




Re: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: glenn murphy
Subject: Re: Super Tak lens caps?


A 49mm or 52mm clip-on slips all the way between the threads, 58mm 
is too big. The H1A/H3V manual says it uses 49 filters and 51 caps, 
and I'm not sure why they'd be different.
How odd.
You may end up with a 49mm threaded cap, or even just use a cheap UV 
filter as a lens cap.

William Robb 




Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Badri A
and that too for the M28/2.8 (not one of the 28/2s)!  I don't think
many people like this lens much, going by the discussion on Stan's
site.  Aww.. wish I had put that up for sale...

Badri 


  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
 
  Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
 
  Don
 



Re: Home again

2005-03-06 Thread cbwaters
Rest-up Bill.  By the time you're caught-up with the PDML, you'll be feeling 
better :)
CW

- Original Message - 
From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 11:33 AM
Subject: Home again


Just returned home from 4 days in the hospital.  Still sore around the 
colostomy, but the PIA from the ulcer is gone.

Bill


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Re: Additional info: PZ 28-105 and istD question

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
Gremlins...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Should have added that the lens works 
fine on the PZ-1
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Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
To which I can only add HOLY C***!
Don Sanderson wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
Don
 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Graywolf
Of course the eBay phenomenon is strange, I guess it is the, I want that, 
factor multiplied by insanity.

For instance I noticed a used Jiffy J-2 Hat Steamer bid up near $200 when I last 
looked. Now with the interest in vintage hats that might seem reasonable. Only a 
quick google search reveals that they are still being made and have a suggested 
list price of $149.95. Further that same search brings up about 50 places that 
are selling them new mostly for $130-135 with a couple of places selling it for 
under $100. So who in their right mind would pay $200 plus inflated shipping 
used for something they can readily get new for $100.

It seems that if you list something on ebay you either give it away, or get paid 
4-5x what it is worth, and hardly ever does something just go for an honest price.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
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Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Badri A
Subject: Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!


and that too for the M28/2.8 (not one of the 28/2s)!  I don't think
many people like this lens much, going by the discussion on Stan's
site.  Aww.. wish I had put that up for sale...
Just a wild guess, I bet the buyer backs out of the sale.
William Robb 




Re: PESO - Firmly Entrenched

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:57:59 -0800, Bruce Dayton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This was taken while on a walk with my daughter.  We were both taking
 pictures and this root caught my eye.
 
 Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4, handheld
 ISO 400, 1/60 sec, f/9.5
 
 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_1163.htm
 
 Converted from Raw to Tiff with C1 - converted from Tiff to jpg,
 sized/sharpened for the web.
 
 Comments welcome
 

Catching up on some old PAW's and PESO's today.

Geez, I really like this one!  Great patterns and textures.  Love the
curves of the bark, the way ridges of bark mimic each other as they
travel down the old trunk.  That knot at the bottom is a real nice
element, too.  Love the way the greenery at the corners gives a splash
of colour to the grey log.

Terrific shot!  Great eye to see and capture it so nicely.

I'll also comment on how wonderful it is that you and your daughter(s)
go on nature walks so often.  My parents did that with me, I do it
with my kids (although only Claire, the youngest is much into it now -
Cath's a ~teenager~ now, and has much more important things to do than
hang with her old dad vbg).

It's just so important on a number of levels - for your kids (and
you!) to appreciate the wonders of nature (sorry to sound sappy') all
the much better, and for you and your daughters to bond.  Just doing
simple things together makes such a difference to them.

I know that as a parent, it makes a huge difference to me, to spend
such great times with my kids (so much so that I almost feel guilty
for feeling so good g).

Anyway, it always makes me feel good to see you post that you did
something with your kids.  You seem such a great dad, and your kids
will be so much the better for it.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Printing Raw Problems

2005-03-06 Thread Butch Black
Paul Stenquist asked: Mac or PC? What software are you printing
from?
A Mac of course. Is there any other kind worth using? Raw files
converted to tif format in Pentax Photo Lab 2.1, opened and
attempting to print in Photoshop 7.
You might try printing using the ICM feature. Mac's with Colorsynch should 
give you good results. If Epson, or your paper's manufacturer has profiles 
for the 825 use them as well.

I'm behind on the digests, so if this has been suggested already, sorry.
Butch 




Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard

2005-03-06 Thread brooksdj

 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3173937size=lg
 
 We always encourage comments, and thank you in advance should you
 choose to do so.
 
 cheers,
 frank

Great shot Frank. You have captured a classic Canadian July afternoon.:-)

Nice contrast  and exposure. The lady in the shot really adds to it. It would 
have been
pretty stark
with out a fiqure in it.

Dave Brooks






Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Graywolf
Subject: Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!


Of course the eBay phenomenon is strange, I guess it is the, I 
want that, factor multiplied by insanity.

For instance I noticed a used Jiffy J-2 Hat Steamer bid up near 
$200 when I last looked. Now with the interest in vintage hats that 
might seem reasonable. Only a quick google search reveals that they 
are still being made and have a suggested list price of $149.95. 
Further that same search brings up about 50 places that are selling 
them new mostly for $130-135 with a couple of places selling it for 
under $100. So who in their right mind would pay $200 plus inflated 
shipping used for something they can readily get new for $100.

It seems that if you list something on ebay you either give it 
away, or get paid 4-5x what it is worth, and hardly ever does 
something just go for an honest price.
Or the seller changes his mind and pulls the auction.
A lens that I was bidding yesterday on was pulled because the sellers 
description wasn't accurate or some such, odd because the description 
was very good and matched the pictures perfectly.
A friend was bidding on a boat yesterday, and the auction was pulled 
because the thing got sold outside of eBay.

William Robb 




Re: PESO: A bit of colour

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 14:30:37 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day folks,
 
 It's a bit gloomy and overcast today, so I find myself preferring to
 work on bright and colourful shots.
 
 Nothing too special, just another freaking flower photo.
 
 http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/PESO/peso_003.htm
 
 It was 41 degrees C (106 degrees F) when I took this a couple of weeks
 ago on my way home from work.
 
 To those of you in cooler climes, hope it warms you up a little :-)
 
 Enjoy, comments  criticisms welcome.

Gorgeous lighting!  Bright colours!  Lovely flower, well captured.

We're expecting an inch or two of snow today.  Last week, it snowed 3
of 5 days.  I hate you vbg.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
To be consistent you need the push on cap for 49mm emblazoned with 
Honneywell Pentax.  Otherwise any old 49mm lens cap will do.

If you want the original push on type KEH has them 
*http://tinyurl.com/3qwnn.*

glenn murphy wrote:
Hi everybody,
I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of a 
H3V with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a 
screwmount camera before and don't really know much about them. The 
lens came with a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. Does 
anyone know what size/type cap I need and have any guess where I might 
find one? This lens doesn't quite look like any of the pictures I've 
seen on the web of this model. It has a silver filter ring which seems 
to stick out further from the front element than on the all-black ones 
I've seen. Any help would be appreciated.

Glenn


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
Sometimes I forward stuff like that to winners of auctions, if they pay 
an outrageous price for an item,  if I've been bidding on it...

It usually gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling..
Scott Loveless wrote:
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 09:02:31 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

- Original Message -
From: Don Sanderson
Subject: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!
   

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
 

http://www.keh.com/shop/SHOWPRODUCT.CFM?CRID=10208677SKID=PK06009013540N3SID=newusedBID=PKCID=06SOID=Ncurpic=0dpsp=0
I hope this winner isn't reading this!
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread glenn murphy
Unfortunately the filter size is not on the lens. The filter it came 
with just slides into the back of the hood before the hood is screwed 
on, the filter has no threads on it. I don't have anything in 55mm to 
try, so I think maybe I'll just make a trip to Helix and look through 
the bin of used caps and see if anything works. Failing that, I'll take 
a look at my Dad's H1A next time I visit and steal his lens cap if it 
fits. Maybe he'll trade it for the 33 to 35 year-old film I just 
developed for him last night (among other things, it looks like he took 
pictures of a TV screen when they were showing one of the Apollo moon 
landings).

Glenn
Graywolf wrote:
The only thing between 52 and 58 is 55mm. Usually it says the filter 
size on the lens. That would be separate from the 1:1.8/55mm, like 
(theta sign)55. Also the filter should be marked with the size. The 
lens originally came with a metal push-on cap about 3mm larger than 
the filter size. If my memomory serves correctly of my H3, bought new 
in '61 or so, 55mm was the correct size for the 55/1.8 Super Takumar. 
I think some of the later ST lenses used a smaller filter however, so 
your camera may have an eariler lens than the manual you have is 
talking about.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
glenn murphy wrote:
A 49mm or 52mm clip-on slips all the way between the threads, 58mm is 
too big. The H1A/H3V manual says it uses 49 filters and 51 caps, and 
I'm not sure why they'd be different.

Glenn

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: glenn murphy
Subject: Super Tak lens caps?

Hi everybody,
I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of 
a H3V with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a 
screwmount camera before and don't really know much about them. The 
lens came with a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. 
Does anyone know what size/type cap I need and have any guess where 
I might find one? This lens doesn't quite look like any of the 
pictures I've seen on the web of this model. It has a silver filter 
ring which seems to stick out further from the front element than 
on the all-black ones I've seen. Any help would be appreciated.


I would think that any 49mm clip on cap would work.
Have you tried putting a cap from another lens onto it to see?
You can mix and match caps without causing famine.
William Robb







FS: A 28-135/4

2005-03-06 Thread Don Sanderson
Anybody want to make a reasonable (Spelled: Real World) offer
on a very nice SMCP-A 28-135mm/4 zoom.

http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/zooms/short/A28-135f4.html

If not I guess I'll have to sell it on eekBay and retire sooner than
I expected. ;-)

Don



Re: PES0 -- After the Snow -- Revisited

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:34:21 -0500, Peter J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I decided to revisit the flying truck of after the snow.  There are
 three shots in the little gallery which I guess makes it a GESO but I
 didn't feel like posting it as such.
 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~pjalling/PESO_--_After_The_Snow_--_Revisited.html
 
 No technical details.  All were taken with the *ist-D
 1  3 with the Vivitar 35-85 f2.8
 2 with the SMC-P F 70-210 f4-5.6
 
 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
 
 --
 I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
 During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
 and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
 peacetime.
 --P.J. O'Rourke
 

Actually, I like the Context Shot best.  The close-up seems without
scale;  hard to tell how high up the thing is.  It could be 4 feet in
the air, it could be 200 feet, who knows?

The Patriotic photo has too many distractive elements that just aren't
needed in the photo, such as the flag and the mailbox.

Context Shot is the strongest of the bunch, and it's a really good shot, IMHO.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Aluminium CD-case for my home made strobe outfit

2005-03-06 Thread Jens Bladt
Last week I won an auction for an aluminium case, made for 800 CD's (75
USD).

After a minor refurbishment (I put in three walls) it fits my four Metz
45's perfectly - including
the OSRAM Pilots (carries the flash, a lightbulb, an umbrella, and a
wireless triggering device - radio or optical).

I have also ordered four lamp stands in Germany (140 USD at Foto Walser) as
well as some wireless radio flash triggering devices. So, now I have a
compact and quite cheap strobe outfit for when I'm not in the studio. All I
need now is a Metz 60 CT for the main light.


Case:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p12449006.html
The CT-3 and CT-5 does TTL with my *ist D (and other Pentax'es).

Osram Pilot:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10042157.html

Battery compartment connector for NiCad's (I have made versions for AC/DC as
well)
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10029920.html

Flash and AC/DC device, which can supply two flashes:
http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10011017.html


BTW: I bought my first Metz 45 CT-1 new in 1981. It still works like the day
I got it (after 24 years)!
The

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt



Re: Pentax Shopping

2005-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 4/3/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:

A short but nevertheless interesting tale about a friends who are looking
for a DSLR.

Update below


They are taking a four week break in Australia soon (she's from Sydney)
and he is keen to pick up a digital camera. He has an ME-Super and a
clutch of manual lenses. She has a Nikon manual focus camera (forget
which) and a couple of lenses. He's cruised the internet and was hyped up
about the 300D, but the thing that freaks him most of all was the small
viewfinder image in these cameras.

In discussing it, I pointed out that the Pentax offerings (D, Ds) would
be ideal for him, as they would be compatible with his old lenses, which
he liked. She was keen for Nikon, a D70 maybe. I suggested a local camera
shop (small chain of half a dozen regional stores) called T4 Cameras in
Witney, near Oxford. He went.

He told me that he saw a D70 and an *ist Ds (no 300D there although they
do carry Canon). He loved the Ds, admiring its size and relatively large
viewfinder image compared to the D70 and the 300D (which he has
previously handled). The sales dude told him that sensor-wise, there was
virtually no difference between the D70 and the *ist Ds, and that while
he would be able to use his old Pentax glass on the Ds, his wife would
not be able to use her old Nikon glass on the D70. This had a large sway.

My friend has retired to listen to his wife ;-) and consider his verdict.
He wants the Ds. T4 Cameras sells it for 799 GBP but he can get it mail
order for a hundred less if they decide to go that route. I suspect his
wife (who works for a large picture agency) will balk at the Pentax, rant
at the incompatibility of he Nikon glass, and order him to buy a Canon.
She is Australian, don't forget.

My friend drinks a lot.

I hope he holds out for the Pentax.

He did. He just told me that he has a brand new *ist Ds !  I get to play
with it Thursday.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread Don Sanderson
Just measure inside the filter threads on the lens
and add about 1mm.
Gotta be 49, 52 or 55. Only sizes I've seen anyway.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: glenn murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 11:01 AM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Super Tak lens caps?
 
 
 Unfortunately the filter size is not on the lens. The filter it came 
 with just slides into the back of the hood before the hood is screwed 
 on, the filter has no threads on it. I don't have anything in 55mm to 
 try, so I think maybe I'll just make a trip to Helix and look through 
 the bin of used caps and see if anything works. Failing that, I'll take 
 a look at my Dad's H1A next time I visit and steal his lens cap if it 
 fits. Maybe he'll trade it for the 33 to 35 year-old film I just 
 developed for him last night (among other things, it looks like he took 
 pictures of a TV screen when they were showing one of the Apollo moon 
 landings).
 
 Glenn
 
 
 Graywolf wrote:
 
  The only thing between 52 and 58 is 55mm. Usually it says the filter 
  size on the lens. That would be separate from the 1:1.8/55mm, like 
  (theta sign)55. Also the filter should be marked with the size. The 
  lens originally came with a metal push-on cap about 3mm larger than 
  the filter size. If my memomory serves correctly of my H3, bought new 
  in '61 or so, 55mm was the correct size for the 55/1.8 Super Takumar. 
  I think some of the later ST lenses used a smaller filter however, so 
  your camera may have an eariler lens than the manual you have is 
  talking about.
 
  graywolf
  http://www.graywolfphoto.com
  Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
  ---
 
 
  glenn murphy wrote:
 
  A 49mm or 52mm clip-on slips all the way between the threads, 58mm is 
  too big. The H1A/H3V manual says it uses 49 filters and 51 caps, and 
  I'm not sure why they'd be different.
 
  Glenn
 
 
 
  William Robb wrote:
 
 
  - Original Message - From: glenn murphy
  Subject: Super Tak lens caps?
 
 
  Hi everybody,
 
  I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of 
  a H3V with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a 
  screwmount camera before and don't really know much about them. The 
  lens came with a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. 
  Does anyone know what size/type cap I need and have any guess where 
  I might find one? This lens doesn't quite look like any of the 
  pictures I've seen on the web of this model. It has a silver filter 
  ring which seems to stick out further from the front element than 
  on the all-black ones I've seen. Any help would be appreciated.
 
 
 
 
  I would think that any 49mm clip on cap would work.
  Have you tried putting a cap from another lens onto it to see?
  You can mix and match caps without causing famine.
 
  William Robb
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: Home again

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:45:41 -0500, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rest-up Bill.  By the time you're caught-up with the PDML, you'll be feeling
 better :)
 CW

By the time he gets caught up with PDML, it'll be time to start
setting up PDML Central!  vbg

Great to hear all's okay, Bill (if a bit sore, which I assume to be
normal).  Nice to see you back.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Paw: Nother Boo picture

2005-03-06 Thread brooksdj
 Hey all.
For some reason i thought i posted this shot, but its not in my Paw folder, so, 
i'll
submit this for
the weeks Paw.

WARNING: CUTE CAT PICTURE.g

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/boo3.jpg  

Taken the day i picked up the istD and was playing with the AF280T flash. 
Cropped a bit of
the crap
on the table and adjusted the SH feature a bit with PS Elements 3.

istD with A 50 f1.7 and AF280T flash. I forgot the WB probably flash.

Dave Brooks

 






Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
No it wasn't a mistake, it was stupid but it wasn't a mistake.  The 
bidding went like this

talk2bear bid $391.00 to start which brings the auction to it's minimum 
of $22.00.
lawr100_2005 began bidding to hit talk2bear's limit to either just 
barely over top him or set him up for a snip at the end of the auction, 
(notice he was bidding reasonably, he had no idea that talk2bear's limit 
was so _unreasonable_).
techguy129 stuck his nose in and got nowhere.
lawr100_2005 makes one more bid and gives up.
joehkg decides to snipe at the end with an amount that he thinks will 
win the bid (I'd guess $400), and defeat any counter snipe. 
Jesus look at talk2bears limit!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] #%@ #%@

Paul Stenquist wrote:
It was a mistake. The second to the last bid was $38. The last bid was 
$391.
On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
Don


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Pentax Shopping

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 17:07:33 +, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 He did. He just told me that he has a brand new *ist Ds !  I get to play
 with it Thursday.
 

Excellent job, Cotty!

Now, just get 'em to subscribe to the list.  g

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Super Tak lens caps?

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
It uses slip on caps. 

glenn murphy wrote:
A 49mm or 52mm clip-on slips all the way between the threads, 58mm is 
too big. The H1A/H3V manual says it uses 49 filters and 51 caps, and 
I'm not sure why they'd be different.

Glenn

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: glenn murphy
Subject: Super Tak lens caps?

Hi everybody,
I made an impulse buy this past week and am now the proud owner of a 
H3V with a Super Takumar 55mm 1:1.8 lens. I've never owned a 
screwmount camera before and don't really know much about them. The 
lens came with a hood with a skylight filter in it, but no caps. 
Does anyone know what size/type cap I need and have any guess where 
I might find one? This lens doesn't quite look like any of the 
pictures I've seen on the web of this model. It has a silver filter 
ring which seems to stick out further from the front element than on 
the all-black ones I've seen. Any help would be appreciated.

I would think that any 49mm clip on cap would work.
Have you tried putting a cap from another lens onto it to see?
You can mix and match caps without causing famine.
William Robb



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PAW: snow covered landscape

2005-03-06 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 08:38 AM 06/03/2005 , you frank wrote:

 http://people.freenet.de/bienenbernd/TEMP/Schnee.JPG

I think the composition is strong, with that big old strong tree trunk
on the right.  It really anchors the shot for me. 

Ahh... Frank that's your other right.

Gees hows that guy find his way around Trona?

Powell



Re: Word Wars

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:31:00 -0500, Daniel J. Matyola
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just returned from vacation and found this email from Netflix in my inbox:
 
 **
 MEMBER NEWS - Word Wars
 **
 
 Dear Daniel J,,
 
 Word Wars goes where no documentary has been before -- behind the scenes of 
 the national Scrabble championship -- and makes spelling as exciting as any 
 extreme sport.
 
 This 2004 Sundance Film Festival favorite follows four word nerds through 
 their fastidious preparations and the smaller tournaments that lead to the 
 2002 national tournament in San Diego. These men are highly motivated 
 (obsessed, even) and aren't above using a few four-letter words -- during 
 play, of course, not on the board! -- when the going gets tough. They're the 
 kind of fantastic real-life characters even Hollywood couldn't dream up. If 
 you've ever felt the rush of plunking a Z or a Q on one of those elusive 
 Triple Letter Score spaces, Word Wars is a must-see.
 
 Add Word Wars to the top of your Queue:

 http://www.netflix.com/EmailRent?movieid=60034781addtotop=yestrkid=4131
 
 Enjoy the movie,
 
 Your Friends at Netflix
 

It's a really good doc.  I recommend it (otherwise, Annsan would hit me g).

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard

2005-03-06 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:29:14 -0500, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:00:41 -0500, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nope, no filter other than a UV.  I really don't feel like paying
 (what seem to me to be) exhorbitant prices on eBay for little teeny
 39mm filters, although I would like a yellow or orange filter for that
 camera, just to darken skies just a bit on sunny days.  Mind you, I
 rarely have that camera pointed in a direction that the sky's in the
 frame anyway g.
I spent a week at the beach last summer with HP5+ and ended up with
lots of photos of the sea blending with the sky and the clouds.  :(  I
probably could have used a filter for that situation.  Of course,
removing the sky from the frame may have helped.  g
 
 In terms of the composition, I actually don't mind the car over there.
  I kind of feel that seeing only one car is a stronger statement that
 the storm kept cars off the road than if there were no cars at all.
 I'm not criticizing your critique, BTW, just given my POV.
It's not the car itself.  It's the headlights.  For whatever reason,
not sure how to explain it, they just don't do it for me.  The two
little bright spots tend to pull my eye away from the woman.  Personal
aesthetics, I guess.  I agree with your statement, however.
 
 I have to say, though, I snapped the pedestrian's photo, paying more
 attention to where she was in the frame than anything in the
 background.  There were so few pedestrians on the sidewalks that day,
 and I could see that the wind was gusting just then, blowing her hair
 just so, and I felt that it was her or (maybe) no one.
Overall, I really like the composition.

-- 
Scott Loveless
Born free.  Taxed to death.



Re: Home again

2005-03-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/3/05, Bill Owens, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just returned home from 4 days in the hospital.  Still sore around the 
colostomy, but the PIA from the ulcer is gone.

Bill 

Welcome back Bill.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Paw: Nother Boo picture

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 12:09:43 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey all.
 For some reason i thought i posted this shot, but its not in my Paw folder, 
 so, i'll
 submit this for
 the weeks Paw.
 
 WARNING: CUTE CAT PICTURE.g
 
 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/boo3.jpg
 
 Taken the day i picked up the istD and was playing with the AF280T flash. 
 Cropped a bit of
 the crap
 on the table and adjusted the SH feature a bit with PS Elements 3.
 
 istD with A 50 f1.7 and AF280T flash. I forgot the WB probably flash.
 
 Dave Brooks
 

Now ~that's~ a cute kitty!  g

Looks ready to pounce, judging by the look in it's eyes, and the body position.

A really good pic, Dave, but I gotta be honest with you, that candy
cane sticking out of it's ear really distracts me.  I think it's the
bright red.  Maybe it's just me - in fact it probably is just me, so
don't worry about it. g

Other than that, it's about as good a photo of a cute little kitten as
one could want.

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: FS: A 28-135/4

2005-03-06 Thread Fred
 a very nice SMCP-A 28-135mm/4 zoom

This is a really neat lens model, one of my favorites.  (Of course, I'm an
old film dinosaur, but...)  It's a heavy lens, but it's well built.  It's
my favorite walking around zoom (on a Super A), despite its mass.  I also
think it'd be interesting to use on an *ist D(S), too - it would make for
about a 40-200/4 zoom...

Fred




Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
That would be the expectation, but it's not as much better as one would 
expect.  At least when comparing the M 200 and F 70-210 I own anyway.
Marginal is the word I'd use.  That's why the M stays in the cabinet and 
the F usually is in the bag.

Jens Bladt wrote:
I took a few test shots today.
To see how the SMC-M 4/200mm is doing.
Not so bad - compared to the SMC F 4-5.6/70-210mm.
I think the prime is the sharper lens of the two.
Both photographs shot at f 5.6 and app. 1/2000 sec. handheld.
No editing except autolevels and very little cropping (almost the full
frames).
See for yourself: http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p12447314.html
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: PAW: snow covered landscape

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 09:16:34 -0800, Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 08:38 AM 06/03/2005 , you frank wrote:
 
  http://people.freenet.de/bienenbernd/TEMP/Schnee.JPG
 
 I think the composition is strong, with that big old strong tree trunk
 on the right.  It really anchors the shot for me.
 
 Ahh... Frank that's your other right.
 
 Gees hows that guy find his way around Trona?
 
 Powell
 

Right.  That would be left.  Not right. LOL

-frank (whose job it is to navigate about the city on a daily basis?)


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
You sure?  Looks like one to me.  It's a bit too contrasty, but 
otherwise I like it.  Nice composition.

frank theriault wrote:
I was going to save this for later in the week, and make it a PAW, but
we're supposed to get a couple more inches of snow today (but it might
turn to rain later in the afternoon - yuck!), so today seemed an
appropriate day to post this.
Taken a bit more than a month ago right smack in the middle of the
central shopping district at noon on a Saturday.  Normally, the place
would be jammed with cars and pedestrians.  It's not a blizzard as
the average windspeed was only 40 km/h (about 25 mph), although gusts
were much higher.  Environment Canada's definition of a blizzard is
snow with average winds of over 50 km/h (30mph).
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3173937size=lg
We always encourage comments, and thank you in advance should you
choose to do so.
cheers,
frank
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: M 4/200mm vs F 4-5.6/70-210mm at 200mm

2005-03-06 Thread Fred
 See for yourself: http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p12447314.html

But the thumbnail goes to a shot with an M 35/2.8 lens...

Fred




Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 12:20:03 -0500, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 It's not the car itself.  It's the headlights.  For whatever reason,
 not sure how to explain it, they just don't do it for me.  The two
 little bright spots tend to pull my eye away from the woman.  Personal
 aesthetics, I guess. snip

Ah, I getcha now, and I can see yer point.  Sometimes these things
just distract for some unexplainable reason - kinda like the candy
cane sticking out of Dave Brooks' cats ear (in the PAW he just
posted).

It also may be that the headlights don't bother me because here in
Canada, daytime running lights have been the law for 10 years or more,
so it would be most peculiar for us to see a car without them on.  Or
maybe that has nothing to do with it, and it's just a personal
thang...  vbg

Anyway, thanks for your thoughtful comments, Scott, they're really appreciated!

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Home again

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
Glad you're back, and that was just a lot more information than I needed.
Bill Owens wrote:
Just returned home from 4 days in the hospital.  Still sore around the 
colostomy, but the PIA from the ulcer is gone.

Bill


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Color space

2005-03-06 Thread Frantisek
GS It boils down to this.  I can't see anything outside of the sRGB
GS colorspace on my monitor.  I can't print anything outside of the sRGB
GS colorspace on my printer.  The lab I work with uses a Fuji processor
GS with Chrystal Archive paper.  It can't print anything outside of the
GS sRGB color space.

As far as I understand it, there is one problem with this reasoning. Your input
device. AFAIK all DSLRs and all film scanners can deliver colours that
are quite outside the gamut of sRGB, if so configured. In my
experience, in my shooting I have had problems with sRGB clipping the
colours my DSLR could capture. Of course for printing, I convert to
sRGB.

Good light!
   fra



Re: PESO: This Is Not a Blizzard

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:49:55 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Great shot Frank. 

Thanks, Dave!

You have captured a classic Canadian July afternoon.:-)

Seems like it these days, eh?  When the hell is this winter ever going
to end? g
 
 Nice contrast  and exposure. The lady in the shot really adds to it. It would 
 have been
 pretty stark
 with out a fiqure in it.

Yeah, it was pretty stark out there that day.  I've never seen so few
pedestrians and traffic in front of the Eaton Centre before at noon on
a Saturday.  I knew it was grab the shot with that lady, or wait a
while for the next pedestrian.

cheers,
frank



-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Fred
 He's an auction newbie.

[and]

 Just a wild guess, I bet the buyer backs out of the sale.

Both the #1 and #2 bidders (the two bidding in the stratosphere for a
rather mundane lens) have 0 feedback ratings.  I seriously doubt that
this deal is ever gonna go through...

Fred




Re: The Pentax Glass Phenomenon Continues!

2005-03-06 Thread Peter J. Alling
that should read ...snipe at the end...
Peter J. Alling wrote:
No it wasn't a mistake, it was stupid but it wasn't a mistake.  The 
bidding went like this

talk2bear bid $391.00 to start which brings the auction to it's 
minimum of $22.00.
lawr100_2005 began bidding to hit talk2bear's limit to either just 
barely over top him or set him up for a snip at the end of the 
auction, (notice he was bidding reasonably, he had no idea that 
talk2bear's limit was so _unreasonable_).
techguy129 stuck his nose in and got nowhere.
lawr100_2005 makes one more bid and gives up.
joehkg decides to snipe at the end with an amount that he thinks will 
win the bid (I'd guess $400), and defeat any counter snipe. Jesus look 
at talk2bears limit!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] #%@ #%@

Paul Stenquist wrote:
It was a mistake. The second to the last bid was $38. The last bid 
was $391.
On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3879053120
Holy Hoppin Horny Toads!
Don



--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




NorCal Meeting

2005-03-06 Thread Shel Belinkoff
A group of list members and friends gathered yesterday in the San Jose
area.  Godfrey, Bruce, Marnie, John Francis, John Celio, Patsy and her
friend William, Marco, myself, and some strange bloke with a peg leg and
wearing a black cape  got together to share stories, take pictures,
exchange and share equipment, and have a good time.  

We all got along well, although we asked Godfrey to leave early as he was
creating a fuss with the caped stranger.  Patsy has a wry sense of humor,
and constantly harangued John Francis, who, at one point, ran home to get
his wife, Wendy, to protect him from the humorous onslaught.

Marnie was her usual charming self, but felt a bit out of the loop since no
one spoke much with her as she's a Canon user.  No way we could let an
infiltraitor g participate fully in speculative discussions about
future Pentax camera and lens releases.

Marco was ever the gentleman, quietly taking pictures with his istDs and
showing us the images on the LCD screen.  Most images were unflattering,
and Marco demanded small sums of money in exchange for a promise to keep
them off the list.  He made about $1.75 since most of us didn't care.

John Celio brought his new Pentax 67 and his Pentax 110, both outdated
antiques, but John, for some reason, kept showing them off.  This is the
digital age, John, let's get with the program.

Bruce, and to a lesser extent, John and Godfrey, earnestly tried to enable
me to the digital side by showing me all the features and benefits if the
two Pentax DSLR cameras.  Bruce was especially pushy as he insisted I use
one of his istD's for the entire day, which I did along with a variety of
K-mount, A-series, and auto focus lenses.  Nice try, Bruce. I just ordered
a Leica M4  pffft! to digital LOL

Over dinner we mostly discussed other list members, and had especially good
laughs when discussing Frank, Bill Robb, and, since he left early, Godfrey,
as well.as other list participants.

Overall we had a great time ;-))

Shel 




Re: smallish enablement

2005-03-06 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:55:24 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Won an ebay auction last Thursday and Tuesday received my 8+, 
 smc A 28mm f2.8.
 
 Looks in good shape.Ap ring feels good and sound.
 
 First time dealing with Henrys through ebay. Nice product,timely delivery,poor
 communications.
 
 Dave
 

Sounds cool, Dave (just catching up on really old posts g).  Bring
it to the next TOPDML so's we can all take a look at 'er.

cheers,
frank 


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



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