Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread japilado
He could even mount M42 Super Taks and SMC Takumars on his Canon T90. That was a great camera. I still have mine. Jim A. At a camera club night a younger meber (using a analog Canon 90 -something) was looking at all the DSLR's - aiming to choose/buy one. He liked the Pentax, it felt

Re: Re follow up on DS speed test

2006-07-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Igor, Your question led me to doubt my memory of the last test I did with the Ultra II SD card so I ran the test a second time with the Sandisk Ultra II card, 60x nominal speed, for both RAW and JPEG *** and updated the page with these additional results and corresponding QuickTime

Re: When we get out new K10D's in the fall...

2006-07-14 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 14.07.2006, at 06:01 , Peter Loveday wrote: Hmm, interestingly this forum (I think?) seems to indicate DNG support: http://hobby7.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/dcamera/1140771650/ I hope this is only fake. With photographing setting inside MENU, AF mode is changed single AF (AF.S)/continuous

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread DagT
Den 14. jul. 2006 kl. 03.11 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:13:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the leading professors in Copyright issues in Norway has stated that the painting is illegal, and things seem to be going my way, but it

RE: Photography Travel: The Great Pluvial of '06

2006-07-14 Thread Bob W
Wow - that's quite a story about the lightning. Glad you got out of it alive. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Tainter Sent: 14 July 2006 04:40 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Photography Travel: The Great

PUG reminder and apology

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hi guys and gals, The next PUG deadline approacheth. Time to get the submissions ready, folks. The apology is for not having the submission form currently up and running. The ISP has been notified, and I await response. News of the condition will be coming. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Re: New favourite body

2006-07-14 Thread mike wilson
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/13 Thu PM 06:44:52 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New favourite body Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:11 AM, mike wilson wrote: To the melody of American Pie

Re: Re: Thanks to Godfrey and others

2006-07-14 Thread mike wilson
I once transposed the Polish words for Italian and hairy. Which explained the confused look on my hostess's face when I asked her about the Italian tiles in her bathroom From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/13 Thu PM 09:31:00 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hi Skye, You have to check out the local copyright laws where you live to be sure, but I would say that owner X is not allowed to make further copies unless that is specifically agreed upon. That's basically what copyright is all about. The buyer only buys the right to own the item, not to make

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
Hi Dag, That's pretty arrogant behaviour from the painter. Hope you get the painting destroyed. Make sure that he agrees also to destroy any sketches he made prior to the final painting, and to confirm his action in writing. Jostein On 7/13/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to keep your

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Christian
Jens Bladt wrote: At a camera club night a younger meber (using a analog Canon 90 -something) was looking at all the DSLR's - aiming to choose/buy one. He liked the Pentax, it felt good to the hands, he thought. I told him about the backwards comaptibility - how he could use 50 year old

Re: Safety

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
There's not much about Norm that could be described as normal. You mean, in the same way that there's not much about Jack that could be described as jackal? Jostein-al -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Re: Thanks to Godfrey and others

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
When reading this thread I was sure you would chime in with my little mess-up with certain biting insects...:-) Jostein scratching his leg On 7/14/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once transposed the Polish words for Italian and hairy. Which explained the confused look on my

Re: Re follow up on DS speed test

2006-07-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, G Thanks for doing all this. Even though there seems not to be much of an in camera advantage to using a card faster than about 80X. I think I'm going to get the 150X Transcend card anyway. The price/capacity ratio is too good to pass up, the faster downloading may be helpful (I

Re: PESO - Underside of a Leaf

2006-07-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks, Godders ... Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Good stuff! That's a great shot. http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/greenunderleaf.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Re: Excitement in Cottyland

2006-07-14 Thread mike wilson
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/14 Fri AM 05:47:54 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Excitement in Cottyland On Jul 14, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: I can understand how an RAF plane crashing is news, but the pub part? Isn't

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
hm let's see, to mount m42 (50 year old) lenses on a Pentax DSLR you need an adapter To mount Canon FD lenses on a Canon DSLR you need an adapter Same kind of computability I'd say. Except that the newest FD lenses are not 50 years old. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Christian
Lucas Rijnders wrote: No: Canon Fd register is shorter than EOS, so with an adapter you either loose infinity focus, or you need an optical adapter: essentially a weak TC. That is different, and arguably inferior, to M42-to-K... The original statement was that it was not possible to

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:32:20 +0200 schreef Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jens Bladt wrote: At a camera club night a younger meber (using a analog Canon 90 -something) was looking at all the DSLR's - aiming to choose/buy one. He liked the Pentax, it felt good to the hands, he thought. I

Re: Re: Thanks to Godfrey and others

2006-07-14 Thread mike wilson
I think everyone should tell their _own_ story 8-) From: Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/14 Fri AM 08:33:32 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: Thanks to Godfrey and others When reading this thread I was sure you would chime in with my little

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/7/06, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed: You can mount almost everything on EOS, due to the short register and lerge diameter, but not K-mount, unless you castrate the lens. Ask Cotty :o) I prefer to think of it as a circumcision. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/7/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: He has been pretty successful, so it is possible. The fact that there are adapters commercially available for it (with or without taking a hacksaw to the lens) means it is possible. Useful or practical is another question. :-) Not only

Re: PESO - Underside of a Leaf

2006-07-14 Thread Cotty
http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/greenunderleaf.html Very nice shot, you old fart. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/7/06, Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: That's pretty arrogant behaviour from the painter. Hope you get the painting destroyed. Make sure that he agrees also to destroy any sketches he made prior to the final painting, and to confirm his action in writing. If it was me I'd

Re: Excitement in Cottyland

2006-07-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/7/06, David Mann, discombobulated, unleashed: I like how they interviewed a guy who'd been attending a training course at the pub. To me, that sounds like a very relaxed interpretation of either training or pub... probably for the purposes of explanation to the boss and/or wife :) I

RE: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
If a lens is female - that would be close to illegal in Denmark ;- Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Cotty Sendt: 14. juli 2006 11:39 Til: pentax

RE: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Isn't all you need a tiney Screw Mount adapter? Most Pentax users have one ... no problem at all. I guess the spring aperture from a Spotmatic lens will work, won't it. And the T90 isn't 50 years old - 20-25 years perhaps - like an SMC-M or SMC-A lens - which won't need the adapter. Jens Bladt

Re: Excitement in Cottyland

2006-07-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/7/06, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Isn't everything over there near a pub? Mercifully yes. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: What is this lens?

2006-07-14 Thread Tom Reese
I don't know...an aftermarket screwmount? It could be a total POS. IMO, you could better spend your money elsewhere. Tom Reese -- Original message -- From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope, that's for sure. Looks well made and by the diameter and length I

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:39:21 +0200 schreef Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 14/7/06, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed: You can mount almost everything on EOS, due to the short register and lerge diameter, but not K-mount, unless you castrate the lens. Ask Cotty :o) I prefer to think

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:18:21 +0200 schreef Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lucas Rijnders wrote: No: Canon Fd register is shorter than EOS, so with an adapter you either loose infinity focus, or you need an optical adapter: essentially a weak TC. That is different, and arguably inferior, to

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Christian
Lucas Rijnders wrote: If you allow for optical adapters, you can mount everything on everything, so the discussion becomes meaningless... ding ding ding! we have a winner! You were supporting the 20D owners who said 'our 20D can do that too', while practically it can't. yes it

Re: Excitement in Cottyland

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
The course consisted of one exercise which involved a radial motion using the forearm, raising a pint pot from bar to lips, and back. Repeat. My tutor gave me 100%. Har. Everyone knows you can't get more than 96%. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Christian
Lucas Rijnders wrote: Quite relevant, as the young member was considing purchasing, and probably actually using, a camera (brand)... So he would choose Pentax because it has backwards compatability for lenses he doesn't own? Why? If he chooses Canon (and I am not saying he should) at

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
Cotty wrote: I prefer to think of it as a circumcision. Cruel. As any rites of passage. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread Jostein Øksne
Sounds like fun. Hard to imagine Dag doing it, though...:-) Jostein On 7/14/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/7/06, Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: That's pretty arrogant behaviour from the painter. Hope you get the painting destroyed. Make sure that he agrees also to

Calibrating Adobe Camera Raw

2006-07-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
First, allow my disclaimer: I don't know if this is a worthwhile tool, if there's an easier or better way to calibrate ACR, or if it even needs doing at all. Still, based on conversations in another venue, there is interest in what this program does, although not specifically ~this~ program.

RE: What is this lens?

2006-07-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, Tom Reese wrote: [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson ? Now that I've lost this auction, does anyone know exactly what it was? I smelled a fast 85 or something like that. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110005873742 I don't know...an aftermarket

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, Christian wrote: You were supporting the 20D owners who said 'our 20D can do that too', while practically it can't. yes it CAN! practically with an adapter it CAN. just as practical with Pentax or Canon with a screw mount adapter! Yes, but not as practical as Pentax D

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread brooksdj
I don't use this, but i bought an Expodisk in the spring and so far i thing very highly of it. My D2H used to have what i thought were exposure fluctuations, or more lilely WB problems. Since using this disk, my shots all have the same exposure and nice feel to them. Very little if any

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread DagT
Hah! I can do wonders with an axe .-) Even more fun: Send three kids with paint into the gallery and go for a walk. Just imagine the two boys in the painting coming into the gallery and start painting on their own picture. DagT Den 14. jul. 2006 kl. 12.29 skrev Jostein Øksne: Sounds like

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Jul 14, 2006, at 5:18 AM, Christian wrote: The original statement was that it was not possible to mount a FD lens on an EOS body. based on one attempt at a camera club without the required adapter. Regardless of tradeoffs (optical adapter) it IS possible. Different and inferior is for

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, DagT wrote: Hah! I can do wonders with an axe .-) Even more fun: Send three kids with paint into the gallery and go for a walk. Just imagine the two boys in the painting coming into the gallery and start painting on their own picture. DagT Wrong Dag, this will sell

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:23:36 +0200 schreef Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lucas Rijnders wrote: Quite relevant, as the young member was considing purchasing, and probably actually using, a camera (brand)... So he would choose Pentax because it has backwards compatability for lenses he

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: From: Bob W anybody using a WhiBal? http://www.rawworkflow.com/products/whibal/index.html If so, are they any use, or is it just more crap adding weight to my camera bag? They want enough for it. Go to your local framing shop and aske them for a window from a white mat

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread frank theriault
On 7/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:18:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the limit between painting and photography is not really too clear. Regards Jens Bladt === Definitely. Agreed. Big time. Nope. Gotta

Re: Seriously Off Topic: War is starting in Israel

2006-07-14 Thread frank theriault
On 7/13/06, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vic, This list is a special place. The level of civility is high for an internet group as is the desire to be genuinely helpful. snip snip We see the participants as other human beings and friends. Stick around for a while, the feeling

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread DagT
Den 14. jul. 2006 kl. 11.36 skrev Cotty: On 14/7/06, Jostein Øksne, discombobulated, unleashed: That's pretty arrogant behaviour from the painter. Hope you get the painting destroyed. Make sure that he agrees also to destroy any sketches he made prior to the final painting, and to confirm

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What's the need for cards and things when the white balance can be set in raw converters? Maybe they're useful when shooting JPEG or TIFF? Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 7/14/2006 4:51:35 AM Subject: Re:

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's the need for cards and things when the white balance can be set in raw converters? Maybe they're useful when shooting JPEG or TIFF? I've been in places that do not conform to any of the normal white balance options -- it's useful

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: On 7/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:18:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the limit between painting and photography is not really too clear. Regards Jens Bladt === Definitely. Agreed. Big

RE: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Well, photographers sometimes paint on thier images - or adds stuff made by hand or machine. Painters certaily use photographs. Either as a starting point or the iamge was projected on tto the cancas by lenses and mirrors - then painted. Brushes and CCD's/film are both tools for human image making

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 13, 2006, at 3:44 PM, Bob W wrote: Hi, anybody using a WhiBal? http://www.rawworkflow.com/products/whibal/index.html If so, are they any use, or is it just more crap adding weight to my camera bag? Thanks, Bob Obviously this company is a subsidiary of the P.T. Barnum School of

RE: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
This doesn't make sence to me Mark. The painter often starts with the same thing - what he sees with his eyes - or what he imagines in his mind. So does the photographer. It's really the same: Humans making images with what ever tools he/she finds suitable to work with. What count's is - IMO - the

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread David Savage
On 7/14/06, Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As correct as your argument is, I can mount a Canon FD lens on my Volkswagen Golf. Err...Aaron it's called a 1Ds Mark II. It's big, but not that bad. ;-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Adam Maas
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, Christian wrote: You were supporting the 20D owners who said 'our 20D can do that too', while practically it can't. yes it CAN! practically with an adapter it CAN. just as practical with Pentax or Canon with a screw mount adapter! Yes,

B and W Film Tests by Iris Davis

2006-07-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Is Tri-X no longer King of the Hill? Do digi shooters care? http://www.lookingglassphoto.com/funwfilm.html Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 14, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: Dunno how this changes after the photographer's demise. Simple, he doesn't care anymore. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Adam Maas
Ironically, the 20D has absoluetly no issues with mounting M42 lenses via an adaptor, just like Pentax. Nikon F mount is also quite doable, along with Leica R, Contax/Yashica and OM mount. Of the major mounts only FD, MD and Minolta AF cannot be adapted with a plain adaptor (K mount can be

Re: What is this lens?

2006-07-14 Thread Bob Shell
He misread the markings. It's YS-PE, not VS-PE . The YS lens mount system was from Sigma, so this is most likely a Sigma lens. YS adapters are like T-mounts, interchangeable to make the lens work on different cameras, but with auto diaphragm. Early to mid-70s vintage. Lens looks like a

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Aaron Reynolds wrote: On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's the need for cards and things when the white balance can be set in raw converters? Maybe they're useful when shooting JPEG or TIFF? I've been in places that do not conform to any of the normal white balance

Re: PUG reminder and apology

2006-07-14 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks for the reminder! Got the pic chosen (architecture theme), just need to locate it and see if I prepared it properly. Or did I already submit it a few months ago?? Too much going on, too little brainpower... Rick --- Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys and gals, The

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread frank theriault
On 7/14/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This doesn't make sence to me Mark. The painter often starts with the same thing - what he sees with his eyes - or what he imagines in his mind. So does the photographer. It's really the same: Humans making images with what ever tools he/she

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: Backwards Compatibility At a camera club night a younger meber (using a analog Canon 90 -something) was looking at all the DSLR's - aiming to choose/buy one. He liked the Pentax, it felt good to the hands, he thought. I told him about

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually the difference between Painting and Photography is that Painters can have long detailed discussions without once mentioning paintbrushes, canvas or brush strokes. frank theriault wrote: On 7/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:18:29 AM

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 14, 2006, at 9:05 AM, William Robb wrote: Aparently, it is possible to mount FD lenses to an EOS body with an adaptor. Yes it is. Canon themselves even made such an adapter in the early days of EOS. But the adapter has an optical element in it to correct for the fact that you

Re: 70mm macro lens?

2006-07-14 Thread graywolf
The missing focal length in the series 17.5, 25, 35, 50, 70*, 100, 140, 200, 280, 400, etc. *Except for the 70 there has always been something within a few percent of that square-root-of-two series. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof ==

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread frank theriault
On 7/14/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the difference between Painting and Photography is that Painters can have long detailed discussions without once mentioning paintbrushes, canvas or brush strokes. That's such crap. I've not once heard a photographer talk about

Re: 70mm macro lens?

2006-07-14 Thread graywolf
I can imagine! However, the lens makes sense for cropped framed digital as it gives the same effect as a 100mm macro on 35mm. That was probably the best selling and most profitable lens in the line up. No wonder someone has come out with a 70mm macro for the DSLR's. -- graywolf

Re: B and W Film Tests by Iris Davis

2006-07-14 Thread pnstenquist
Interesting. Before I went digital I had switched to the T-Max films for the most part after about thirty years of shooting mainly Tri-X. I was very happy with the T-Max 100 in either T-Max developer or D-76, and liked the 400 when it was rated at 200 and souped in something gentle like D-76

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Adam Maas
Bob Shell wrote: On Jul 14, 2006, at 9:05 AM, William Robb wrote: Aparently, it is possible to mount FD lenses to an EOS body with an adaptor. Yes it is. Canon themselves even made such an adapter in the early days of EOS. But the adapter has an optical element in it to correct

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:43:18 +0200 schreef frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7/14/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the difference between Painting and Photography is that Painters can have long detailed discussions without once mentioning paintbrushes, canvas or brush

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread graywolf
That gets into some strange territory. Copyright in most countries protects your image (the photo) from commercial use by others. The painting is clearly a derivative work. In some countries derivative works are not allow without permission, in others they are. Even the courts do not seem to

RE: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Perhaps so, perhaps not. I don't know enough painters to know ;-) Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af P. J. Alling Sendt: 14. juli 2006 15:40 Til:

Re: 70mm macro lens?

2006-07-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, graywolf wrote: The missing focal length in the series 17.5, 25, 35, 50, 70*, 100, 140, 200, 280, 400, etc. *Except for the 70 there has always been something within a few percent of that square-root-of-two series. Yes, but there has usually been an 85. 70 is too short

Another lens test and a quiz

2006-07-14 Thread Don Williams
I took the lawn mower to the city today to be repaired. It's still under guarantee -- and Aino and I walked about a bit and visited an impressive Manor House nearby; and then our favourite place Viherlandia (the big nursery I've mentioned before). I took the opportunity of testing the Tokina

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread David Savage
On 7/14/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/14/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the difference between Painting and Photography is that Painters can have long detailed discussions without once mentioning paintbrushes, canvas or brush strokes. That's such

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread graywolf
Yes, they are the only ones who should do that! -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- frank theriault wrote: On 7/13/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is clearly a case where one

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread skye
Thank you Jostein, I will pass the info on. It was an interesting topic of conversation on that night (or maybe we're a boring group :), so I may do more research in the future, in my spare time... --s On 7/14/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Skye, You have to check out the local

Re: B and W Film Tests by Iris Davis

2006-07-14 Thread Adam Maas
Yep, quite interesting. I've never had good results with any TMax emulsion other than TMZ, no matter what developer used. Tmax Dev produced the best results, but Acros proved far superior than TMax 100, and I still get better (although grainier) results from Tri-X. -Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/14/2006 6:04:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like Michael Reichmann's contrast between photography and painting: They're exact opposites because the painter starts with a blank canvas and can put anything he or she can imagine on it, whereas the

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread graywolf
But his heirs and licensees do. In fact they care more than the original copyright holder because they are only interested in the money. I did kind of like that Heinlein story where copyrights went to the Galactic Government at the authors death. There were no other taxes whatsoever since the

Re: B and W Film Tests by Iris Davis

2006-07-14 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. Before I went digital I had switched to the T-Max films for the most part after about thirty years of shooting mainly Tri-X. I was very happy with the T-Max 100 in either T-Max developer or D-76, and liked the 400 when it was

Re: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 14, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Canon actually made two different adaptors. One was the 1.28x TC Adaptor, the other was the FD Macro converter, which lacked the optical element, but was solely intended for Macro use. The latter is far more common as Canon made them for a

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread graywolf
Just because the original is destroyed does not make the copy an original. I always have a problem with these kind of ideas, because it is clear to me that a copy of me is not me. One book I read about interstellar teleportation made that clear because the original after being copied just went

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 14, 2006, at 10:00 AM, graywolf wrote: That gets into some strange territory. Copyright in most countries protects your image (the photo) from commercial use by others. The painting is clearly a derivative work. In some countries derivative works are not allow without permission, in

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread graywolf
Don't know many painters, do you? No matter what trade you are in you discuss your tools and techniques with your peers. Of course someone who buys a hammer does not think that makes him a carpenter. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof ==

Re: PESO - The Bed

2006-07-14 Thread Eactivist
What Paul said. Marnie = In a message dated 7/13/2006 10:44:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nice shot. An interesting look at a side of life seldom seen. In many ways, this accomplishes the portrait mission of your earlier post. Paul -- Original

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread Jack Davis
Bob, How are the cards used to set white balance? Various cards held in front of the lens, at a given distance, while the balance is adjusted 'til the desired degree of warmth is perceived to have been met? Jack --- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 3:44 PM, Bob W wrote:

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread David Savage
On 7/14/06, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course someone who buys a hammer does not think that makes him a carpenter. A nail gun does though. Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread graywolf
That is because most of the folks so commenting are snapshooters they make images of what is found in front of their cameras (found objects). Photographers use a camera to make images of their ideas. They can and do stage and pose them if that is what is needed to present the idea. Many of the

Re: B and W Film Tests by Iris Davis

2006-07-14 Thread pnstenquist
I used Delta 3200 for the most part, generally in 6x7 format. I rated it at 1600 but developed it for 3200. I found the negs were too thin when processed according to Ilford's recommendation for 1600. I used both T-Max developer and D-76. The results were vewry similar. I found T-Max 3200 to be

lens kit ...

2006-07-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 14, 2006, at 2:44 AM, Cotty wrote: ...I have now consolidated my lens lineup to these: Pentax K15mm 3.5 Canon 24-70 2.8 L Canon 65mm MP-E macro Pentax A*85mm 1.4 Canon 70-200 2.8 L IS matched 2X converter About the same number of lenses as I use, similar field of view range.

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Jack, I'm not Bob ... You simply use one of the three graded cards to set a custom white balance, from neutral white to warm. Bob, this is an attractive looking set for $65. I see it as particularly helpful for video work where you can't easily color balance after the fact with out very

RE: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
Well spoken - or rather - written, Graywolf! Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af graywolf Sendt: 14. juli 2006 16:56 Til: Pentax-Discuss

OT Rome/London

2006-07-14 Thread skye
I'm going to Rome and London (from Seattle) in early October. Also heading to Tuscany but that's a rather amorphous area. Does anyone there want anything from here (that will fit in a suitcase)? Any recommendations on things I absolutely should not miss photographing in the two cities? Primarily

Re: WhiBal?

2006-07-14 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Godfrey. Now, how do you phically use the cards to determine the desired WB? Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, I'm not Bob ... You simply use one of the three graded cards to set a custom white balance, from neutral white to warm. Bob, this is an

RE: Backwards Compatibility

2006-07-14 Thread Jens Bladt
He's a IT student. He cant' spend a samll fortune on modern Canon-L lenses etc. But he can pick up - or at least find - excellent lenses for very litle money - less than 100 USD each, that will mount and work well on a Pentax DSLR. There's a huge amount of excellent K-mount lenses around at the

Re: A weird little story of Copyright

2006-07-14 Thread Tom C
I grok it. Tom C. From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: A weird little story of Copyright Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:19:49 -0400 But his heirs and licensees do. In fact they care more than

Re: Bad taste

2006-07-14 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/14/2006 7:46:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P. J. Alling wrote: Actually the difference between Painting and Photography is that Painters can have long detailed discussions without once mentioning paintbrushes, canvas or brush strokes. ==

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