Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Chris Mitchell
Excellent Godfrey. A lovely ethereal feel to them. An excellent way of
the party guests being able to see them there and then too.

Chris

On 11 September 2013 07:51, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
 My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last Sunday. I 
 carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible Project film to see 
 what I could get with it. There's something just beautiful to my eye about 
 the photos this camera makes, despite all the defects and weirdnesses of the 
 camera. This set include fourteen of the exposures ... The other two weren't 
 worth posting due to problems.

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/

 Thanks for looking!

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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Where there's a will there's a way...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6795917675/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6796554369/

She shot the photo with the iPhone held to the Nikon viewfinder, the Fish-Eye 
fitted to the Nikon. 
Came out darn nice! 

Could do something similar with the SX-70 and a close up lens I bet... 

Godfrey

On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:09 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And besides, I don't think there's any way for you to mount a Nikon 6mm
 f/2.8 Nikkor AI Fisheye Lens on it.


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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread David Mann
On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

 Where there's a will there's a way...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6795917675/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6796554369/
 
 She shot the photo with the iPhone held to the Nikon viewfinder, the Fish-Eye 
 fitted to the Nikon. 
 Came out darn nice! 

Reminds me of a photo I took while on holiday a few years ago.  I put my camera 
with the macro lens up to the peephole on our hotel room door.  Closest thing 
I've ever had to a fisheye lens.

http://www.multi.net.nz/hotel-hallway/

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Re: OT - PK to Fuji X adaptor?

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Google Pentax K to Fuji X adapter... At least four or five different ones out 
there.
They all work, I bet. Quality of the fit and build is what varies. 

Godfrey


On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 Well, perhaps hot too off topic...
 
 I'm considering a Fuji X-E1 and was wondering about PK-to-FX adaptors.
 I've got a wunnerful 17mm f4 fisheye that I would like to try out.
 
 Any adaptor advice from Fuji X users appreciated!
 
 
 
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Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-12 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote:

Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear
pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400
is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if
it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work
well with matching TCs.


I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or 
model of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a 
good lens.  I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've 
bought numerous BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised 
each time by the condition.


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OT - PK to Fuji X adaptor?

2013-09-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
Well, perhaps hot too off topic...

I'm considering a Fuji X-E1 and was wondering about PK-to-FX adaptors.
I've got a wunnerful 17mm f4 fisheye that I would like to try out.

Any adaptor advice from Fuji X users appreciated!



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PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
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Re: Normal Full Frame Zoom

2013-09-12 Thread Darren Addy
I think that there are a couple of rules that you can follow when
discerning Good Zoom Lens designs from the pedestrian (even BEFORE
looking at the pictures they produce).

1) In general, shorter focal length spreads will out-perform longer
focal length spreads.
Longer focal length spreads (extreme example: 28-200mm) may be
convenient, since you don't have to change lenses often or carry extra
lenses, but they aren't going to outperform the zooms 28-70mm and a
70-210mm (at any focal length)

2) A constant aperture zoom (if available) will generally out-perform
a variable focal length zoom of the same focal length range.
Example: Pentax-A 35-70mm f3.5-4.5 (variable aperture, filter size
49mm) is considered a decent lens, but the Pentax-A 35-70mm f4
(constant aperture, made for only two years, filter size 58mm) is
considered a much better performer.

The Pentax-A 35-105mm f3.5 is a bit of a longer focal length lens, but
is a constant aperture and it is also highly regarded.

(From PF reviews) A35-70mm f3.5-4.5; A35-70mm f4; A35-105mm f3.5

Sharpness: 8.3; 8.7; 9.1
Aberrations: 7.7; 8.8; 8.4
Bokeh: 7.0; 8.5; 8.3



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote:
 Yes - that is what I meant - A 28-135 f4. Nice lens.


 On 9/10/2013 1:30 PM, John wrote:

 Did you mean an A 28-135/4? I couldn't find an A 28-100/4.

 http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/zooms/short/A28-135f4.html

 On 9/9/2013 8:29 PM, Mark C wrote:

 Thanks - I remember you posting about this lens but had forgotten about
 it. I had an A 28-100 f4 and loved it. I will keep my eyes peeled for
 one of these.

 Mark

 On 9/9/2013 5:06 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

 A35-105/3.5. I haven't taken it off my camera at all lately. Razor
 sharp at even f3.5. Stop down and it gets so sharp it will cut you. I
 like this lens so much I'm going to track down a minty copy soon. Mine
 has some slop in the focusing, but I've been more than ok with
 fighting the focus when I get the results back on my computer. You
 lose AF and 28mm at the wide end, so this might not work all that well
 for you. As much as I love wide angle, I'm finding the 35-100 range
 quite useful indeed. 50mm equivalent is a bit for a walk around
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Bruce wrote:

 You guys are making me think I should go down to the store and take
 a look at these new EVF's.  Another question I have is in regards to
 sports shooting - any lag as you pan the camera following the action?

There will always be some -- consider what happens when a TV camera is
panning fast during sports.  You should try and see whether it's too much
for you.  The Fuji X-S1 (a decent current-generation but not top-line
EVF) is just barely good enough IMO.  Actually, with the GX7 and E-M1,
the Fuji should probably be now considered previous-generation.
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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
Test pls ignore.

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Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
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Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-12 Thread John

That's a horse of a different color. You really can't compare the asking
price of a Pentax Medium Format lens from a private seller with KEH's
price for a third party 35mm camera lens.


On 9/12/2013 11:49 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/236840-sale-pentax-67-400mm-f4.html

Of courseno automation...larger...heavier...but faster at least. :)

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote:

On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote:


Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear
pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400
is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if
it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work
well with matching TCs.



I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or model
of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a good lens.
I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've bought numerous
BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised each time by the
condition.



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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/9/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:

If y'all are going to have Cotty butcher a $50K Polaroid camera, you
wouldn't want him to use a cheap fish-eye lens would you.

I'll take that as a compliment ;-)

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Attila Boros
Interesting subject. Some things are better kept analog:) Would be
nice to see a little bit more detail in the instruments while keeping
this composition (might not be possible). What's the white thingy on
the top?

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I said pls (??)

 Jack

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 Can't

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 Test pls ignore.

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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread P.J. Alling

On 9/9/2013 5:25 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

On 9/8/13 3:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Sep 7, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

Sure, but there's nothing like the 8mm fisheye you can get for APS-C 
for
12mm/e.  For most purposes, you're correct that's sufficient, but 
people
who really care about extreme wide-angle are likely to be less 
satisfied

with m4/3.


For most purposes ... Don't be ridiculous.

A fish-eye lens is a specialty lens, and the ONLY wide-angle lens 
focal length not listed in native Micro-FourThirds mount. Perhaps 
that's because there's a superb fish-eye lens in FourThirds SLR 
mount, which work on mFT bodies with any of the four available, 
dedicated Panasonic and Olympus FourThirds to Micro-FourThirds mount 
adapters for 100% full function operation.


Olympus Zuiko Digital 8mm F3.5 Diagonal Fisheye Lens:
http://four-thirds.org/en/fourthirds/single.html#i_008mm_f035_olympus

BH Photo: 
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/405508-REG/Olympus_261010_8mm_f_3_5_Fisheye_ED.html


Your comment sounds like it fits one of the categories in Ctein's 
most recent column on The Online Photographer:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2013/09/bad-science-vs-good-science-a-guide-for-the-layperson-part-1.html 



Check out the God of the Gaps category. ;-)

G



Ctein is the weakest part of TOP. He appears to only write to try to 
convince people he's really smart, and it's tiring. I've gotten to 
where I just ignore the days he contributes.


Disclaimer: I read the linked article, and it was more of the same.

If Mike J. had written it, I think he'd probably jump on God of the 
gaps folks as those in the photo world who dismiss a lens line 
because it doesn't have a specific lens. You know, make it relevant to 
the readers.


I think Ctein is a perfect example of someone who's really good at one 
or two things and therefor thinks he's really good at all things.



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Semi-OT: Vivitar 272

2013-09-12 Thread Zos Xavius
My friend that sold me the AF28T Flash that died three weeks later
felt bad and brought me down a Vivitar 272. It takes 2 9v batteries.
=)

It looks like trigger voltage is somewhere between 150v and 290v
according to various sources. Therefore it is certainly not safe for
the hotshoe. Reading some more, the pc sync port seems capable of
300v(!). So I'm thinking about pulling the center pin from it and just
using the sync cable. Has anyone used these old flashes with a digital
body? It might be even better to get a bracket for it and use the sync
cable, hammer flash style.

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
I said pls (??)

Jack 

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Can't

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 Test pls ignore.

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread John

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

On 9/12/2013 10:15 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Appears they're still in the analog era. G

Jack

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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread P.J. Alling
For film there was an APS-C standard, and it was rigidly adhered to, if 
you wanted to sell a camera that used APS film cartridges.  Digital is a 
close enough for horseshoes proposition, even FF sensors aren't exactly 
the same size as the original 35mm film gates.  Not surprisingly all 
digital sensors are bit smaller than the old film specifications.


On 9/10/2013 1:43 PM, John wrote:

APS-C stands for Advanced Photo System - C for Classic - 25.1 × 16.7
mm; aspect ratio 3:2, so there actually IS a standard, even if it's
universally ignored.


On 9/9/2013 4:50 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

Yuh. k-7 and k20D have the same sensor. A samsung sensor. Its true
there is no standard for aps-c. Generally canon is a 1.6x crop and
nikon/sony/everyone else is a 1.5x crop. I don't know about you, but
I'm rather glad I'm not a canon crop-sensor user and not just because
of the reduced FoV.

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:10 PM, P.J. Alling 
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

DPReview seems to think that the K-5 and K-7 have exactly the same size
sensor.  I don't remember where I got those numbers from but IIRC 
they came

from the Pentax web site when I first bought my K20D. When the K-7 was
released the sensor was reported to be the same as the K-20D. I 
could be
wrong in the particular.  However there is no generally accepted 
standard

specification for the dimensions of APS-C sensors.


On 9/8/2013 8:31 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:


Hmmmaccording to dxomark:


K-7 - 23.4x15.6mm
K-5 - 23.7x15.7mm

If those numbers are right, the k-7 is exactly 3:2 while the k-5 is
slightly wider.

Comparing pixel dimensions I get the following aspect ratios:

K-5 - 2:3.02
K-7 - 2:3.01

Fairly negligible if you ask me.

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:11 PM, P.J. Alling 
webstertwenty...@gmail.com

wrote:


The Samsung sensor family used in the K20D and K-7 has a slightly 
smaller
footprint on the order of 10ths of a mm than the Sony sensors used 
before

in
the *ist-D and all the other Pentax DSLRs.  It seems like a small 
enough
difference. but that can mean a huge difference in AOV when 
dealing with

wide angle lenses.

The K-20D and K-7 use a 16x23mm sensor with a ~28.02mm diagonal.

The other Pentax DSLRS, (and Nikon DX DSLRs) use a 15.7x23.7mm sensor
with a
~28.4mm diagonal.

Besides being slightly smaller the Samsung sensor isn't exactly 
the 2:3
aspect ratio ratio either.  When switching between my *ist-Ds and 
my K20D

I
actually notice the difference in aspect ratio quite noticeable
especially
when printing.

Canon uses a 14.9 x 22.3mm sensor for it's APS-C sensor cameras 
with a

diagonal of ~26.8mm

So there is a much larger difference between Canon and any of the 
Samsung

or
Sony sensor cameras, but if you buy a say a 10mm fisheye lens from a
third
party manufacture that comes in multiple mounts, it may be 
actually be

180°
over the diagonal of one of those sensors or none of them.



On 9/8/2013 7:11 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:


Correct me if I am totally wrong, but isn't the k-7 sensor size the
same as sony sensors with a 1.5x crop? Canon is the only oddball I
know of with their slightly smaller 1.6x crop sensor. OkI just
googled it. The difference is .1mm horizontally between the k-7 and
k-5. Not enough to even noticable.

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webstertwenty...@gmail.com

wrote:


That's true, it's around 7.5mm. However almost all of this is 
pretty

fuzzy.  A full frame fisheye is supposed to cover 180° across the
diagonal
of the format.

Depending on the curvature that the lens imparts that can be 
done with

a
number of different focal lengths in the same ball park can be 
designed

to
do that.

Then when you get to APS-C, well, there's Canon's standard 
sensor size,

the
Sony sensors which are slightly larger, the K20D/K-7 with a sensor
that's
intermediate between them, and whatever Samsung is using these 
days.


Hell, even full frame digital sensors aren't exactly the same 
size as

the
standard film gate for 35mm film cameras.

So it's unlikely that a full frame fisheye will actually fit the
classical
definition on any format.  Though it would be easiest to do for 
m4/3

and
4/3
system cameras since the sensor dimensions are fully specified.


On 9/8/2013 1:31 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:


Fisheye for m4/3 is around 7.5mm. This is what I have:



http://www.ephotozine.com/article/samyang-7-5mm-f-3-5-umc-fisheye-lens-review-19847 


Dario


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Mini-survey


With rectilinear lenses doing format translations is easy.  AOV is
AOV,
but Fisheye lenses make hash those kinds of comparisons. I have a
Pentax
17mm fisheye, and an old 12mm semi circular, (on film), fisheye 
made

by
Sigma in the early 60's.  I don't have any examples currently, 
(and
don't even have my film scanner attached to my current 
machine), but

the
12mm on APS-C 

Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 272

2013-09-12 Thread Darren Addy
The only way I would use older flashes would be attached to a radio
slave (and I believe that some radio slaves also have trigger voltage
limits. That being said, if it blows out your cheap Chinese radio
slave, that is a good indication you don't want it on the hotshoe of
your DSLR). Since your transmitter would have to go in the hot shoe,
the old flash and attached radio slave would need to be on some sort
of handle attachment like this oldie, but goodie. Both of those things
would probably still cost you more than just finding another AF280T
for $20 or under:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0_from=R40_nkw=Pentax+AF280TLH_Complete=1LH_Sold=1rt=nc



On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm guessing that after your lens incident and the old adage about
 lightning not striking twice ...  If there is a sad head-shaking
 emoticon, imagine it inserted here.

 The safest thing you could do with that flash would be to give some
 kid a fiver, hand him the flash and tell him to drop it into a random
 dumpster and not tell you where.


 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 My friend that sold me the AF28T Flash that died three weeks later
 felt bad and brought me down a Vivitar 272. It takes 2 9v batteries.
 =)

 It looks like trigger voltage is somewhere between 150v and 290v
 according to various sources. Therefore it is certainly not safe for
 the hotshoe. Reading some more, the pc sync port seems capable of
 300v(!). So I'm thinking about pulling the center pin from it and just
 using the sync cable. Has anyone used these old flashes with a digital
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Re: OT - PK to Fuji X adaptor?

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Can't go wrong with Rayqual, Voigtländer, or Novoflex brands. 

Godfrey


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 On 12/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Google Pentax K to Fuji X adapter... At least four or five different
 ones out there.
 They all work, I bet. Quality of the fit and build is what varies.
 
 Exactly! I think Chris Mitchell uses adaptors. Chris, any real-world advice?
 
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Darren Addy
Just to go back to EVF's for a moment. I find it interesting that the
Pentax X-5 sports Pentax's first EVF in a long while (frankly, I read
that somewhere, but don't know WHAT the previous Pentax EVF product
even was). The X-5 also sports an articulating LCD screen. If I were
prognosticating, I would say that they were trying out some new
engineering designs on a budget camera and then planning on
incorporating them in more upscale cameras, down the line.

It really wouldn't surprise me if there was a K-02 in the works, with
both features.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I bought both my FA31 and my FA77 back when I had the K100.
 They are wonderful lenses, but I'm very glad that I'm not stuck
 with the sensor performance that was available six years ago.

 You will note that Hasselblads decouple the lens from the sensor.

 You mean like the A12 Camera Mount?

 The other camera units are like having five individual fixed lens cameras 
 that all share the same body controls and accessory interfaces.

 If the GXR had a module that let me use Pentax glass in full auto,
 with the sensor performance of the K-5. In otherwords if I could
 use it as a mirroless K-5, as well as a mirrorless leica, I'd
 be all over it like a fratboy on a keg of beer.

 That notion has been passed around the Ricoh community a bazillion times 
 since Ricoh bought Pentax. I doubt it will ever happen as the Pentax KAF 
 mount is both deep (not very compact) and the control interface to Pentax KAF 
 lenses gets a bit complicated, which would drive up the costs yet some more. 
 The K-01 was a better bet for Pentax lenses, but of course they missed 
 because they didn't provide an EVF port for those that wanted an eye level 
 viewfinder too.

 What is the sensor performance of the m module anyways?

 The sensor is based on the popular 12Mpixel Sony APS-C sensor, that's one 
 generation prior to the K5 line. A very good sensor, with good dynamic range 
 and sensitivity up to ISO 1600-2560 depending on your tolerance. Very high 
 acutance as it is an AA-less design. Special correction lenses for RF mount 
 register lenses, and the mount unit supplies lens correction software that 
 operates on both raw and JPEG, just like the Leica M bodies.

 It's still the best digital body to use with an M mount lens short of the 
 Leica digital Ms.

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Re: OT - PK to Fuji X adaptor?

2013-09-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/9/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty - I have this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pentax-K-Mount-PK-P-K-Lens-to-Fujifilm-Finepix-
X-Pro1-FX-XPro-mount-adapter-/320897679058?hash=item4ab6fdfed2

Or http://tinyurl.com/q9vpysw

Seems to work OK and build quality is surprisingly good for the
value price. Examples here:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PKAdaptor/

PK 50 1.7 and PK 28 2.8 in no particular order

Excellent! Many thanks for that.

I'd like the 14mm but to be able to use Pentax glass would be very cool.
Might start looking for a 50/1.2 ;-)


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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 I wanted a camera, not LEGO.
 
 Hasselblads have a similar level of system modularity, as do several
 other high-end medium format SLR and technical cameras. It's quite
 a sophisticated concept for a compact camera system, rarely seen in
 consumer market products. Your response might be indicative of why the
 market reception was only lukewarm.

Yes, particularly given the wastage for the benefit of modularity, and
double particularly given the lack of support for auto-focus of
non-module lenses.  But I'd still consider one if it had a built-in EVF,
which is why I put my comment in quotes to indicate that it wasn't
specifically my opinion.
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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
Also, more photogenic than a touch screen.
I don't believe this remark made it through earlier, so I'll try it again. 
Playing Plungers and Gauges is surely more fun.

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Re: Pentax K-5 II bargain.

2013-09-12 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, P.J. Alling wrote:

 Just in case anyone is interested the Buydig is selling the K-5 II
 for $895.96 body only which seems like a really good price to me.
 Maybe there's a replacement coming soon.

Same price at bhphoto.com (including $200 instant savings).
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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread kwaller

Can't

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Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel



Test pls ignore.

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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 272

2013-09-12 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm guessing that after your lens incident and the old adage about
lightning not striking twice ...  If there is a sad head-shaking
emoticon, imagine it inserted here.

The safest thing you could do with that flash would be to give some
kid a fiver, hand him the flash and tell him to drop it into a random
dumpster and not tell you where.


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
 My friend that sold me the AF28T Flash that died three weeks later
 felt bad and brought me down a Vivitar 272. It takes 2 9v batteries.
 =)

 It looks like trigger voltage is somewhere between 150v and 290v
 according to various sources. Therefore it is certainly not safe for
 the hotshoe. Reading some more, the pc sync port seems capable of
 300v(!). So I'm thinking about pulling the center pin from it and just
 using the sync cable. Has anyone used these old flashes with a digital
 body? It might be even better to get a bracket for it and use the sync
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Re: Semi-OT: Vivitar 272

2013-09-12 Thread P.J. Alling

You might want to look into a Wein Safe Sync

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/245292-REG/Wein_W990560_Safe_Sync_Hot_Shoe_to.html

It seems a bit pricy, but a lot less expensive than repairing or 
replacing your DSLR after frying the electronics.


On 9/12/2013 3:25 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

My friend that sold me the AF28T Flash that died three weeks later
felt bad and brought me down a Vivitar 272. It takes 2 9v batteries.
=)

It looks like trigger voltage is somewhere between 150v and 290v
according to various sources. Therefore it is certainly not safe for
the hotshoe. Reading some more, the pc sync port seems capable of
300v(!). So I'm thinking about pulling the center pin from it and just
using the sync cable. Has anyone used these old flashes with a digital
body? It might be even better to get a bracket for it and use the sync
cable, hammer flash style.




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Re: OT: 1958 documentary on Ansel Adams (20 min. video)

2013-09-12 Thread John

I beg to differ.

The AC in the Suburban is much better than the AC in a 46-48 Cadillac. I
was going to say orders of magnitude better, but decided we didn't
need to have that nit-picking argument again.

The major advantage for the Suburban is you can actually find them on
Craigslist. You can also set a $$ limit on your search so you only see
the ones within your price range.

But if your heart is set on a 46-48 Caddy, try Hemmings Motor News:

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/?0=0adtypeFacet=Vehicles%20for%20SalemakeFacet=Cadillacsort=c_time_descpage_size=15modelFacet[]=75

TinyURL in case the long one doesn't wrap correctly:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/Ansel-Limo

8-D

On 9/11/2013 2:56 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Suburban = nowhere near as cool as a 46-48 Cadillac limousine.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 1:42 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

Check Craigslist for a used Chevy Suburban  install the deck yourself.


On 9/9/2013 3:20 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


I'd love an old limo like his (with platform on top) to run around in
now. ('cept, given the fact that I'm a weenie and we are currently
enjoying 100 degree temps, I would like it to have modern air
conditioning).

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com
wrote:


Me too!  Proves St.Ansel was young once...

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
wrote:


Thank you, Darren. Enjoyed it.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
wrote:



http://www.openculture.com/2013/02/the_creative_process_of_ansel_adams_revealed_in_1958_documentary.html

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Of Course!  That is what makes it interesting.  Who wants to see
another touch screen?

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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Appears they're still in the analog era. G

 Jack

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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

   [...]
 With any combination of body and camera/mount unit, you can also add
 an EVF (Ricoh VF-2), use the LCD, or fit an optical viewfinder of your
 choice.

 What does this system gain you over a K5 II? Mostly size and
 flexibility of configuration. It happens to work extremely well, when
 configured as body unit plus A12 Camera Mount, with some of the finest
 lenses around anywhere, of whatever mount, and yet in two seconds can
 be reconfigured to be a pocketable ultra-zoom point and shoot. Snap
 the body together with any camera unit and the mode dial set to the
 green camera, and you need to know nothing at all to use it. Fit the
 A12 Camera Mount, a Summicron-M 35mm f/2 ASPH lens, or a lens mount
 adapter and a Micro-Nikkor 200mm f/4 macro lens, and you have a manual
 focus super-high-quality camera suitable for the advanced amateur or
 pro demanding use.

I wanted a camera, not LEGO.
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I bought both my FA31 and my FA77 back when I had the K100.
 They are wonderful lenses, but I'm very glad that I'm not stuck
 with the sensor performance that was available six years ago.
 
 You will note that Hasselblads decouple the lens from the sensor. 

You mean like the A12 Camera Mount?

The other camera units are like having five individual fixed lens cameras that 
all share the same body controls and accessory interfaces. 

 If the GXR had a module that let me use Pentax glass in full auto,
 with the sensor performance of the K-5. In otherwords if I could
 use it as a mirroless K-5, as well as a mirrorless leica, I'd
 be all over it like a fratboy on a keg of beer.  

That notion has been passed around the Ricoh community a bazillion times since 
Ricoh bought Pentax. I doubt it will ever happen as the Pentax KAF mount is 
both deep (not very compact) and the control interface to Pentax KAF lenses 
gets a bit complicated, which would drive up the costs yet some more. The K-01 
was a better bet for Pentax lenses, but of course they missed because they 
didn't provide an EVF port for those that wanted an eye level viewfinder too. 

 What is the sensor performance of the m module anyways?

The sensor is based on the popular 12Mpixel Sony APS-C sensor, that's one 
generation prior to the K5 line. A very good sensor, with good dynamic range 
and sensitivity up to ISO 1600-2560 depending on your tolerance. Very high 
acutance as it is an AA-less design. Special correction lenses for RF mount 
register lenses, and the mount unit supplies lens correction software that 
operates on both raw and JPEG, just like the Leica M bodies. 

It's still the best digital body to use with an M mount lens short of the Leica 
digital Ms. 

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Re: OT - PK to Fuji X adaptor?

2013-09-12 Thread Chris Mitchell
Cotty - I have this one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pentax-K-Mount-PK-P-K-Lens-to-Fujifilm-Finepix-X-Pro1-FX-XPro-mount-adapter-/320897679058?hash=item4ab6fdfed2

Or http://tinyurl.com/q9vpysw

Seems to work OK and build quality is surprisingly good for the
value price. Examples here:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/PKAdaptor/

PK 50 1.7 and PK 28 2.8 in no particular order

Chris

On 12 September 2013 16:47, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 12/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Google Pentax K to Fuji X adapter... At least four or five different
ones out there.
They all work, I bet. Quality of the fit and build is what varies.

 Exactly! I think Chris Mitchell uses adaptors. Chris, any real-world advice?

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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread John

On 9/11/2013 10:08 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

My favorite second party camera is my iphone5. It's all I need in a
compact camera. I've even done some work for the Times with it when
circumstances required that.

Paul via phone



Several years ago, the owner of one of the local camera stores told me
that most of the camera modules in cell phones were manufactured by Pentax.

I have no way to independently verify that fact.

But, if true, it would be fun.

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
You'll have to ask your gynecologists, Dan.
 
Jack.


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http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/pls.htm

On 9/12/2013 2:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Is pls the male version of PMS?

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 I said pls (??)

 Jack

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 Can't

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel


 Test pls ignore.

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 Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM
 Subject: PESO: Control Panel

 Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525440
 Comments are invited.

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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 12, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 I wanted a camera, not LEGO.
 
 Hasselblads have a similar level of system modularity, as do several
 other high-end medium format SLR and technical cameras. It's quite
 a sophisticated concept for a compact camera system, rarely seen in
 consumer market products. Your response might be indicative of why the
 market reception was only lukewarm.
 
 Yes, particularly given the wastage for the benefit of modularity, and
 double particularly given the lack of support for auto-focus of
 non-module lenses.  But I'd still consider one if it had a built-in EVF,
 which is why I put my comment in quotes to indicate that it wasn't
 specifically my opinion.

There are no cameras other than Panasonic and Olympus FourThirds and 
Micro-FourThirds for which AF support crosses manufacturer boundaries. The A12 
Camera Mount was designed specifically for Leica M-mount lenses, which have no 
AF anyway, so citing that as a reason for discontent is somewhat beside the 
point. 

The lack of an EVF in the body can be viewed as both a minus and a plus. 
Depends on what a user individually wants. 

The GXR is now discontinued by all reports anyway. Whether they plan to release 
an updated version or move on to other things is, as usual with Ricoh, unknown 
until they do it. 

Such it is. 

G
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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread John

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/pls.htm

On 9/12/2013 2:22 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Is pls the male version of PMS?

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

I said pls (??)

Jack

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Can't

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Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel



Test pls ignore.

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Cc:
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM
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Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

 I wanted a camera, not LEGO.


Hasselblads have a similar level of system modularity, as do several other 
high-end medium format SLR and technical cameras. It's quite a sophisticated 
concept for a compact camera system, rarely seen in consumer market products. 
Your response might be indicative of why the market reception was only lukewarm.

Godfrey



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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Is pls the male version of PMS?

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I said pls (??)

 Jack

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 Can't

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel


 Test pls ignore.

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 Cc:
 Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM
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 Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
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Re: OT - PK to Fuji X adaptor?

2013-09-12 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 12/9/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

Google Pentax K to Fuji X adapter... At least four or five different
ones out there.
They all work, I bet. Quality of the fit and build is what varies. 

Exactly! I think Chris Mitchell uses adaptors. Chris, any real-world advice?

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Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-12 Thread Zos Xavius
I can too! :P

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:44 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 That's a horse of a different color. You really can't compare the asking
 price of a Pentax Medium Format lens from a private seller with KEH's
 price for a third party 35mm camera lens.



 On 9/12/2013 11:49 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:


 http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/236840-sale-pentax-67-400mm-f4.html

 Of courseno automation...larger...heavier...but faster at least. :)

 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org
 wrote:

 On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote:


 Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear
 pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400
 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if
 it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work
 well with matching TCs.



 I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or
 model
 of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a good
 lens.
 I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've bought
 numerous
 BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised each time by the
 condition.


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Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-12 Thread Zos Xavius
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/236840-sale-pentax-67-400mm-f4.html

Of courseno automation...larger...heavier...but faster at least. :)

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote:
 On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote:

 Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear
 pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400
 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if
 it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work
 well with matching TCs.


 I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or model
 of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a good lens.
 I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've bought numerous
 BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised each time by the
 condition.

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Re: Incentive to get busy learning how to use my O-GPS1

2013-09-12 Thread John Celio
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm embarrassed to say that I have YET to even try out my O-GPS1,
 which I purchased mainly for the AstroTracer functionality. Life has
 been a little disrupted, but is getting back to nominal (as NASA
 likes to say during their spacecraft launches).

 I now have an even greater incentive to get ON IT. Terry Lovejoy
 recently discovered a new comet (C/2013 R1) and on Dec. 25th it is
 expected to be possible to photograph BOTH IT  Comet ISON in the same
 field with a short telephoto lens.

 Wowsers. Two comets in the same image? That has to be a near
 once-in-a-lifetime event. I need to get busy.

That'll be pretty awesome! Do me a favor and post about this again
before that date so I remember to try this, too. :D

I've used my O-GPS1, but I find it really unreliable in terms of it
finding a GPS signal in a reasonable amount of time. When I took it
around southeastern Australia in 2012, I'd have to wait five or more
minutes for it to get things figured out, and it's only slightly
faster here in California. Although I still carry it in my kit, I
rarely use it these days. The one time I tried the AstroTracer
feature, the results were pretty bad. Overall I'm not super impressed
with it.

Darren, if you have better luck with yours, please let me know. Maybe
mine's defective.

John

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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Bob W
On 12 Sep 2013, at 19:22, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I don't think that's the $90K lens that was in the other thread though.
 
 If y'all are going to have Cotty butcher a $50K Polaroid camera, you
 wouldn't want him to use a cheap fish-eye lens would you.

It's what Andy would have wanted.

B
 
 On 9/12/2013 2:31 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 Where there's a will there's a way...
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6795917675/
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6796554369/
 
 She shot the photo with the iPhone held to the Nikon viewfinder, the 
 Fish-Eye fitted to the Nikon.
 Came out darn nice!
 
 Could do something similar with the SX-70 and a close up lens I bet...
 
 

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Pentax K-5 II bargain.

2013-09-12 Thread P.J. Alling
Just in case anyone is interested the Buydig is selling the K-5 II for 
$895.96 body only which seems like a really good price to me. Maybe 
there's a replacement coming soon.


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Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?

2013-09-12 Thread Mark C

On 9/12/2013 9:32 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote:

Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear
pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400
is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if
it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work
well with matching TCs.


I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or 
model of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a 
good lens.  I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but 
I've bought numerous BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly 
surprised each time by the condition.


I once owned a Sigma 400 f4.6 APO Macro. There were several other SIgma 
400mm lenses around before that one, but the APO Macro was highly 
regarded. The others were not held in such high esteem. Sigma used to 
have a very bad reputation for quality - back in the 90's - but IMO they 
really turned that around. That is one of the few lenses that I sold 
that I had wished I held onto.


I wound up with a Tokina ATX 400 f5.6 which was regarded as being 
comparable in quality to the Sigma. In my opinion it is very close in 
qualty - at f8 - but lags at f5.6. Again - there were other variants of 
the Tokina lens - the SD for instance - but the ATX was the latest and 
the most highly regarded. I bought a replacement Tokina for $425 a few 
years ago.


I tested both the Sigma and the Tokina with teleconverters and did not 
find the results to be satisfactory - they are already pretty slow at f5.6.


Mark

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Kenneth Waller
Can't please everyone.


-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel

I said pls (??)

Jack 

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From: kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel

Can't

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From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel


 Test pls ignore.

 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: Control Panel

 Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525440
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:05:37AM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
  I wanted a camera, not LEGO.
 
 
 Hasselblads have a similar level of system modularity, as do several other 
 high-end medium format SLR and technical cameras. It's quite a sophisticated 
 concept for a compact camera system, rarely seen in consumer market products. 
 Your response might be indicative of why the market reception was only 
 lukewarm.

I bought both my FA31 and my FA77 back when I had the K100.
They are wonderful lenses, but I'm very glad that I'm not stuck
with the sensor performance that was available six years ago.

You will note that Hasselblads decouple the lens from the sensor. 

If the GXR had a module that let me use Pentax glass in full auto,
with the sensor performance of the K-5. In otherwords if I could
use it as a mirroless K-5, as well as a mirrorless leica, I'd
be all over it like a fratboy on a keg of beer.  

What is the sensor performance of the m module anyways?

 
 Godfrey
 
 
 
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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread John

On 9/11/2013 4:19 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013, John wrote:


Every piece of Sony consumer electronics equipment I have ever owned
failed  had to be replaced exactly one day after the warranty expired.


Timex bought Sony???



I dunno. I have a decade old Timex watch I keep as a backup. Still works.

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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread John

I don't think that's the $90K lens that was in the other thread though.

If y'all are going to have Cotty butcher a $50K Polaroid camera, you
wouldn't want him to use a cheap fish-eye lens would you.

On 9/12/2013 2:31 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Where there's a will there's a way...
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6795917675/
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6796554369/

She shot the photo with the iPhone held to the Nikon viewfinder, the Fish-Eye 
fitted to the Nikon.
Came out darn nice!

Could do something similar with the SX-70 and a close up lens I bet...

Godfrey

On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:09 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:


And besides, I don't think there's any way for you to mount a Nikon 6mm
f/2.8 Nikkor AI Fisheye Lens on it.






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OT: The fun never ends - redux

2013-09-12 Thread John

East coast version:

I know I've mentioned my on-going struggle with regard to home
maintenance - getting my tools repaired so I can get to some long
neglected  overdue yard work.

Anyway, I got the chipper/shredder back last week  I've had a couple of
chances to use it. It's the least hassle way for me to get rid of all
the fallen limbs  other yard waste around here. I don't have to cut it
to specified length, don't have to bundle it a certain way, don't have
to hassle with whether I've got the right kind of special yard waste
bags approved by the city of Raleigh. I just chip it, shred it, compost it.

Tonight I dragged the chipper/shredder up the hill beside my house to
work on some stuff I'd piled up in my driveway. It nearly kicked my ass.
I'm getting old.

But it's still less work than dragging all the stuff around back because
the chips are easier to shovel up from the driveway so I can use a
wheelbarrow to move them over to my compost bin.

If I do it in the back yard, half of the chips get left in the grass.

It started right up and as soon as I engaged the drive lever the belt
broke. Shouldn't be that big of a deal, I've got a spare drive belt.

I KNOW I have a spare drive belt, because it was in my way  I had to
move it to get to something else JUST LAST WEEK!

This week though ...

Too late to go get another one tonight, so I moved the chipper/shredder
back down the hill and around back so I could put it in the basement
until tomorrow.

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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Ok that's a nice street shot but I don't get the comment - are you not 
supposed to have passengers on those?  are they doing some illegal manouvre?


do tell

ann

On 9/12/2013 20:09, knarf wrote:

Caught red-handed:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1

:-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
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OT: Historic Photos: The Pacific and Adjacent Theaters in WWII

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/03/18/captured-blog-the-pacific-and-adjacent-theaters/#more-1547

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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 12, 2013, at 16:20 , Bruce Walker wrote:

 He can't think he's good at *all* things or he'd be on this list.

MARK!


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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thank me too :-)

Makes me want to find my SX-70 - I could never afford the film these 
days, but it might go on Ebay.


Looks like fun - also enjoyed the odd stuff going on with the Nikon and 
the cellphone that is in another post somewhere


ann


On 9/11/2013 10:26, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thank you Cotty! and Bob!

Godfrey

On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/


DELIGHTFUL set of pics! Love the square format and the endearing
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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
Appears they're still in the analog era. G
 
Jack

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Re: Incentive to get busy learning how to use my O-GPS1

2013-09-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 September 2013 08:09, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've used my O-GPS1, but I find it really unreliable in terms of it
 finding a GPS signal in a reasonable amount of time. When I took it
 around southeastern Australia in 2012, I'd have to wait five or more
 minutes for it to get things figured out, and it's only slightly
 faster here in California. Although I still carry it in my kit, I
 rarely use it these days. The one time I tried the AstroTracer
 feature, the results were pretty bad. Overall I'm not super impressed
 with it.

When it works it seems pretty good but it does take an extraordinarily
long time to lock sometimes (noticeable when the phone takes seconds)
and it's really touch on batteries too.

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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:34 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 9/9/2013 5:25 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

 On 9/8/13 3:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Sep 7, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:

 Sure, but there's nothing like the 8mm fisheye you can get for APS-C for
 12mm/e.  For most purposes, you're correct that's sufficient, but people
 who really care about extreme wide-angle are likely to be less satisfied
 with m4/3.


 For most purposes ... Don't be ridiculous.

 A fish-eye lens is a specialty lens, and the ONLY wide-angle lens focal
 length not listed in native Micro-FourThirds mount. Perhaps that's because
 there's a superb fish-eye lens in FourThirds SLR mount, which work on mFT
 bodies with any of the four available, dedicated Panasonic and Olympus
 FourThirds to Micro-FourThirds mount adapters for 100% full function
 operation.

 Olympus Zuiko Digital 8mm F3.5 Diagonal Fisheye Lens:
 http://four-thirds.org/en/fourthirds/single.html#i_008mm_f035_olympus

 BH Photo:
 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/405508-REG/Olympus_261010_8mm_f_3_5_Fisheye_ED.html

 Your comment sounds like it fits one of the categories in Ctein's most
 recent column on The Online Photographer:

 http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2013/09/bad-science-vs-good-science-a-guide-for-the-layperson-part-1.html

 Check out the God of the Gaps category. ;-)

 G


 Ctein is the weakest part of TOP. He appears to only write to try to
 convince people he's really smart, and it's tiring. I've gotten to where I
 just ignore the days he contributes.

 Disclaimer: I read the linked article, and it was more of the same.

 If Mike J. had written it, I think he'd probably jump on God of the gaps
 folks as those in the photo world who dismiss a lens line because it doesn't
 have a specific lens. You know, make it relevant to the readers.

 I think Ctein is a perfect example of someone who's really good at one or
 two things and therefor thinks he's really good at all things.

He can't think he's good at *all* things or he'd be on this list.

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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Uh, oh: the biker chicks have spotted you, Frank. :-) Love it.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:09 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Caught red-handed:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1

 :-)

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread knarf
No, the person caught red-handed is your humble servant. The title and comment 
refer to the little passenger and the look on her face as she notices my camera.

;-)

Cheers, 
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Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
Ok that's a nice street shot but I don't get the comment - are you not 
supposed to have passengers on those?  are they doing some illegal
manouvre?

do tell

ann

On 9/12/2013 20:09, knarf wrote:
 Caught red-handed:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1

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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
AH ! ... I couldn't really make out her expression .  didn't click on it 
to make it really big  - though if I had I still might have 
misunderstood - you do get busted a lot when you shoot


ann

On 9/12/2013 20:45, knarf wrote:

No, the person caught red-handed is your humble servant. The title and comment 
refer to the little passenger and the look on her face as she notices my camera.

;-)

Cheers,
frank

Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Ok that's a nice street shot but I don't get the comment - are you not
supposed to have passengers on those?  are they doing some illegal
manouvre?

do tell

ann

On 9/12/2013 20:09, knarf wrote:

Caught red-handed:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1

:-)

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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Boy, I guess I need to have my other eye fixed - I can't make out their 
eyes at all even enlarged..


ann

On 9/12/2013 20:44, Bruce Walker wrote:

Uh, oh: the biker chicks have spotted you, Frank. :-) Love it.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:09 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Caught red-handed:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1

:-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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GESO - 10 very recent photos

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

(including two you've seen)


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ#!i=2716040784k=N6FzgHx

coming up for air from multiple annoyances and chores

most of these shots are within the last 2 weeks..

Three rainy day ones were earlier this afternoon... In a bit of good 
fortune, I arrived at the bus stop that heads downtown at the same time 
as the bus, as it started to drizzle. The normally 10 minute trip to 
Chinatown lasted nearly 30 minutes and most of it was under a downpour.

It had stopped just before I got off the bus.  For those of you who
know the area and distance.. that was St Marks Place down 2nd to
Houston, over to Allen to Hester St (used to stop at grand). treated 
myself to 5 pot stickers for $1.25 at my favorite dumpling house on

Christie, gathered BBQ roast pork and chicken over rice for later and
other groceries - got back home well before the predicted serious storm
set in - that is going full tilt now.

I blabber because I had a nap - it has the same effect on my tendancy
to go on and on that getting a full night's sleep does.

anyway - have a look -

ann



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PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread knarf
Caught red-handed:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1

:-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - Big Chile

2013-09-12 Thread John

I bet you could contact the Chimayo Association of Businesses  they'd be
willing to mail you another one.

http://www.chimayo.us/PC/Contact.html

On 9/11/2013 6:43 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

Thanks for all the comments and thanks, Igor, for that detailed
explanation. It appears that chile, chili and chilli are all
correct - depending on location.  I'm fairly sure 'chile' is accepted in
New Mexico - we actually picked up a hand-out at Chimayo which went to
great pains to insist that chile is correct.  Sadly the hand-out must
have been lost in our travels.


Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:


I agree with Rick's first statement.

While my first instinct was similar to the rest that Rick wrote,
Merriam-Webster and OED think differently:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chilli
M-W recognizes chile and chilli as variaants of chili.

OED, which has a tendency to be somewhat biased towards British usage,
(or at least show both), has the main article that is for
chilli | chilly
... which they define as The dried pod of species of Capsicum or Red
Pepper, esp. C. Annuum gastigiatum and frutescens.

Then, in compounds they have different variants in different phrases:
chili pepper n, (a) = PEPPER TREE ;..
and then ... (b) erron. = CHILLI n.
Also:
chilli con carne n. (also chile con carne, chili con carne) (orig. U.S.)
chilli sauce n. (usu. chili sauce) (chiefly U.S.)
chilli-vinegar

And some draft additions for the latest versions of the dictionary
(1993-2007):
chiles rellenos   n.  [Mexican Spanish: relleno = filled, stuffed] orig.
U.S. (pl.)
chilli powder n. (usu. chili powder)
chilli dog n. N. Amer. a hot dog topped with a serving of chilli con
carne.


Overall, chile/chille - seems to be the original word, as it came
from Spanish (to which it came from Central American Indian language
in the 16th century.)
Other variants are results of adaptation into English and its dialects.
OED shows the centuries when various forms appeared:
16 chille, 16-18 chile, 17 chilly, 18 chili, 16 chilli.

Brian, I hope this linguistic excursion answers a part of your question.

Ann has already written that these peppers were stored that way (dried),
and until being eaten would serve as a decoration.
I wouldn't be surprised that in modern days some people use them only as
decorations.

Igor



Tue Sep 10 11:05:47 EDT 2013
Rick Womer wrote:

Beautiful shot.

A chili is a pepper.

Chile is the South American country (pronounced chee-lay).

Chilly is what it is not in Philly today.

Cheers,

Rick

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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:21 AM
Subject: PESO - Big Chile

G'day all,

Another one from Santa Fe.

These big bunches of chile* are common on the fronts of many houses in
the south-west.  I couldn't figure out if they were just decorative or
whether there was some superstition of spiritual purpose.  Does anyone
know?

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2141-K5-1peso.html


Comments appreciated.



*  In Australia we generally use the spelling 'chilli', but 'chile'
seems to be correct in New Mexico.


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Re: GESO - 10 very recent photos

2013-09-12 Thread Bruce Walker
Those are great, Ann. I *really* like My heart is on the High Line.
Also love Rain Stops. I didn't know you were a bokeh cultist like me.
;-)


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 (including two you've seen)


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ#!i=2716040784k=N6FzgHx

 coming up for air from multiple annoyances and chores

 most of these shots are within the last 2 weeks..

 Three rainy day ones were earlier this afternoon... In a bit of good
 fortune, I arrived at the bus stop that heads downtown at the same time as
 the bus, as it started to drizzle. The normally 10 minute trip to Chinatown
 lasted nearly 30 minutes and most of it was under a downpour.
 It had stopped just before I got off the bus.  For those of you who
 know the area and distance.. that was St Marks Place down 2nd to
 Houston, over to Allen to Hester St (used to stop at grand). treated myself
 to 5 pot stickers for $1.25 at my favorite dumpling house on
 Christie, gathered BBQ roast pork and chicken over rice for later and
 other groceries - got back home well before the predicted serious storm
 set in - that is going full tilt now.

 I blabber because I had a nap - it has the same effect on my tendancy
 to go on and on that getting a full night's sleep does.

 anyway - have a look -

 ann



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Re: GESO - 10 very recent photos

2013-09-12 Thread knarf
1 and 9 are my favourites. Especially 1. That danger sign makes it special.

All are wonderful photos. 

Cheers, 
frank



Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
(including two you've seen)


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ#!i=2716040784k=N6FzgHx

coming up for air from multiple annoyances and chores

most of these shots are within the last 2 weeks..

Three rainy day ones were earlier this afternoon... In a bit of good 
fortune, I arrived at the bus stop that heads downtown at the same time

as the bus, as it started to drizzle. The normally 10 minute trip to 
Chinatown lasted nearly 30 minutes and most of it was under a downpour.
It had stopped just before I got off the bus.  For those of you who
know the area and distance.. that was St Marks Place down 2nd to
Houston, over to Allen to Hester St (used to stop at grand). treated 
myself to 5 pot stickers for $1.25 at my favorite dumpling house on
Christie, gathered BBQ roast pork and chicken over rice for later and
other groceries - got back home well before the predicted serious storm
set in - that is going full tilt now.

I blabber because I had a nap - it has the same effect on my tendancy
to go on and on that getting a full night's sleep does.

anyway - have a look -

ann

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PESO: A Shot in the Dark

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Literally.  When I took the dog out tonight, he discovered this new
friend.  It was almost totally dark, but I managed to get a quick and
dirty image anyway.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525893

K-r with smc DA 18-136 mm F3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF} DC WR and AF-360FGZ
Comments are invited.

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Re: GESO - 10 very recent photos

2013-09-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Some very interesting shots. Good thinking shown here.

Paul
On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 (including two you've seen)
 
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ#!i=2716040784k=N6FzgHx
 
 coming up for air from multiple annoyances and chores
 
 most of these shots are within the last 2 weeks..
 
 Three rainy day ones were earlier this afternoon... In a bit of good fortune, 
 I arrived at the bus stop that heads downtown at the same time as the bus, as 
 it started to drizzle. The normally 10 minute trip to Chinatown lasted nearly 
 30 minutes and most of it was under a downpour.
 It had stopped just before I got off the bus.  For those of you who
 know the area and distance.. that was St Marks Place down 2nd to
 Houston, over to Allen to Hester St (used to stop at grand). treated myself 
 to 5 pot stickers for $1.25 at my favorite dumpling house on
 Christie, gathered BBQ roast pork and chicken over rice for later and
 other groceries - got back home well before the predicted serious storm
 set in - that is going full tilt now.
 
 I blabber because I had a nap - it has the same effect on my tendancy
 to go on and on that getting a full night's sleep does.
 
 anyway - have a look -
 
 ann
 
 
 
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Re: GESO - 10 very recent photos

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice, Ann, especially the first two, 8  9.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 (including two you've seen)


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ#!i=2716040784k=N6FzgHx

 coming up for air from multiple annoyances and chores

 most of these shots are within the last 2 weeks..

 Three rainy day ones were earlier this afternoon... In a bit of good
 fortune, I arrived at the bus stop that heads downtown at the same time as
 the bus, as it started to drizzle. The normally 10 minute trip to Chinatown
 lasted nearly 30 minutes and most of it was under a downpour.
 It had stopped just before I got off the bus.  For those of you who
 know the area and distance.. that was St Marks Place down 2nd to
 Houston, over to Allen to Hester St (used to stop at grand). treated myself
 to 5 pot stickers for $1.25 at my favorite dumpling house on
 Christie, gathered BBQ roast pork and chicken over rice for later and
 other groceries - got back home well before the predicted serious storm
 set in - that is going full tilt now.

 I blabber because I had a nap - it has the same effect on my tendancy
 to go on and on that getting a full night's sleep does.

 anyway - have a look -

 ann



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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Attilla.  I couldn't get closer without climbing up on the
rig, which was not permitted.  I don't really know what the white
thingey (or the red thingey) is;  perhaps electrical connections.
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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting subject. Some things are better kept analog:) Would be
 nice to see a little bit more detail in the instruments while keeping
 this composition (might not be possible). What's the white thingy on
 the top?

 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I said pls (??)

 Jack

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 Can't

 Kenneth Waller
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 Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel


 Test pls ignore.

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 Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:42 AM
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 Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525440
 Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Can't please everyone.

so you got to please yourself

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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like it!  Great outfits and expressions.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:09 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Caught red-handed:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1

 :-)

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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OT: A Photographer’s Take On The iPhone 5S Camera

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/12/a-photographers-take-on-the-iphone-5s-camera/

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Re: GESO - 10 very recent photos

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
 My heart is on the High Line

That's the one! Super! 

Godfrey


On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those are great, Ann. I *really* like My heart is on the High Line.
 Also love Rain Stops. I didn't know you were a bokeh cultist like me.
 ;-)
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 (including two you've seen)
 
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ#!i=2716040784k=N6FzgHx
 
 coming up for air from multiple annoyances and chores
 
 most of these shots are within the last 2 weeks..
 
 Three rainy day ones were earlier this afternoon... In a bit of good
 fortune, I arrived at the bus stop that heads downtown at the same time as
 the bus, as it started to drizzle. The normally 10 minute trip to Chinatown
 lasted nearly 30 minutes and most of it was under a downpour.
 It had stopped just before I got off the bus.  For those of you who
 know the area and distance.. that was St Marks Place down 2nd to
 Houston, over to Allen to Hester St (used to stop at grand). treated myself
 to 5 pot stickers for $1.25 at my favorite dumpling house on
 Christie, gathered BBQ roast pork and chicken over rice for later and
 other groceries - got back home well before the predicted serious storm
 set in - that is going full tilt now.


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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Brendan MacRae
Nice shots, Godfrey.

I've always wanted that model but never got one. I had an earlier
polaroid (forget the model number) but it was so tricky to use that I
took a total of maybe 5 pictures with it before selling it. The only
one I have left is a nearly unused plastic thingy that takes the 600
film.

It's great that there's still film out there :-)

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Thank me too :-)

 Makes me want to find my SX-70 - I could never afford the film these days,
 but it might go on Ebay.

 Looks like fun - also enjoyed the odd stuff going on with the Nikon and the
 cellphone that is in another post somewhere

 ann



 On 9/11/2013 10:26, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Thank you Cotty! and Bob!

 Godfrey

 On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/


 DELIGHTFUL set of pics! Love the square format and the endearing
 softness. Really really nice job Godders




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Re: Incentive to get busy learning how to use my O-GPS1

2013-09-12 Thread Darren Addy
Yes, I've read about the battery issue. It sounds like it draws
battery even when it is off. I've got rechargable AAAs, so I will just
plan on starting with a full charge any time I plan on using it. I
haven't heard anybody say that they run out before a night's session.

I have a theory that the precise calibration can be pretty important
and I have a plan to make mine VERY precise. It involves turning a
bowling ball into a large ballhead for the precise calibration
process. I plan on experimenting with the amount of time to move in
each axis (you have up to 20 seconds for each of the three axis). I
have the feeling that a lot of people do it too fast or inaccurately.
I've also heard that people got better results when they upgraded to
the latest camera firmware.

My hero with the O-GPS1 (and a K-5, now K-5 iis) is a frenchman,
Stéphane Poirier. His stuff is amazing.
http://poirierstephane.free.fr/photos/index.php?/category/132

They are made from a stack of shorter exposures. He uses the DA*
200mm f2.8 and says that the O-GPS1 will give you 30 sec to 1 minute
exposure times with that focal length (depending upon the declination
of the object).

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13 September 2013 08:09, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've used my O-GPS1, but I find it really unreliable in terms of it
 finding a GPS signal in a reasonable amount of time. When I took it
 around southeastern Australia in 2012, I'd have to wait five or more
 minutes for it to get things figured out, and it's only slightly
 faster here in California. Although I still carry it in my kit, I
 rarely use it these days. The one time I tried the AstroTracer
 feature, the results were pretty bad. Overall I'm not super impressed
 with it.

 When it works it seems pretty good but it does take an extraordinarily
 long time to lock sometimes (noticeable when the phone takes seconds)
 and it's really touch on batteries too.

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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks Anne! ;-)

Yeah, the the Impossible Project film costs a bundle. The SX-70s do sell, 
though: there seems to be a limited but stable demand for them. A typical 
average I see on Ebay for an original SX-70 in decent condition is around 
$80-125. 

G

On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Thank me too :-)
 
 Makes me want to find my SX-70 - I could never afford the film these days, 
 but it might go on Ebay.
 
 Looks like fun - also enjoyed the odd stuff going on with the Nikon and the 
 cellphone that is in another post somewhere
 
 ann
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/


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Re: GESO - 10 very recent photos

2013-09-12 Thread Brendan MacRae
Tour Bus ...my fav :-)



On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:
 My heart is on the High Line

 That's the one! Super!

 Godfrey


 On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those are great, Ann. I *really* like My heart is on the High Line.
 Also love Rain Stops. I didn't know you were a bokeh cultist like me.
 ;-)


 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 (including two you've seen)


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ#!i=2716040784k=N6FzgHx

 coming up for air from multiple annoyances and chores

 most of these shots are within the last 2 weeks..

 Three rainy day ones were earlier this afternoon... In a bit of good
 fortune, I arrived at the bus stop that heads downtown at the same time as
 the bus, as it started to drizzle. The normally 10 minute trip to Chinatown
 lasted nearly 30 minutes and most of it was under a downpour.
 It had stopped just before I got off the bus.  For those of you who
 know the area and distance.. that was St Marks Place down 2nd to
 Houston, over to Allen to Hester St (used to stop at grand). treated myself
 to 5 pot stickers for $1.25 at my favorite dumpling house on
 Christie, gathered BBQ roast pork and chicken over rice for later and
 other groceries - got back home well before the predicted serious storm
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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread knarf
Great stuff, Godfrey! 

Cheers,
frank

Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
My photo workshop group gathered for our annual summer party last
Sunday. I carried the Polaroid SX-70 and two packs of Impossible
Project film to see what I could get with it. There's something just
beautiful to my eye about the photos this camera makes, despite all the
defects and weirdnesses of the camera. This set include fourteen of the
exposures ... The other two weren't worth posting due to problems. 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/

Thanks for looking! 

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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Oh yeah, she's giving you the eye. I think Mom might be too...
:-)

G

On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:09 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Caught red-handed:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1
 
 :-)
 
 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.


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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks! 

I have one of the model 350 pack cameras too ... another gift from the 'net. 
(It's frightening how many people give me cameras.) 

Yeah, it's five step procedure to take a picture with it. Fuji still makes a 
color and a bw film for it. I haven't adapted a battery yet, the originals are 
long gone but the CR23A lithium cells work well. 

Hey, the plastic Polaroid 600s can make fun photos too! A pack of film from 
Impossible is about $25 ... they carry the right speed for the 600 too. 
I love these cameras. :-)

Godfrey


On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Brendan MacRae bpmac...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice shots, Godfrey.
 
 I've always wanted that model but never got one. I had an earlier
 polaroid (forget the model number) but it was so tricky to use that I
 took a total of maybe 5 pictures with it before selling it. The only
 one I have left is a nearly unused plastic thingy that takes the 600
 film.
 
 It's great that there's still film out there :-)
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157635478987878/


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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
Don't discourage me, Ken. I still have a few to go.


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From: Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
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Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel

Can't please everyone.


-Original Message-
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel

I said pls (??)

Jack 

- Original Message -
From: kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel

Can't

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Control Panel


 Test pls ignore.

 - Original Message -
 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: Control Panel

 Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525440
 Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread Jack Davis
Solid, clean catch, Frank.
 
Jack


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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:09 PM
Subject: PESO - Passenger

Caught red-handed:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1

:-)

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: OT: A Photographer’s Take On The iPhone 5S Camera

2013-09-12 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:02:19PM -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/12/a-photographers-take-on-the-iphone-5s-camera/

sounds pretty cool.  Too bad I can't get the camera without the rest of the 
phone.

 
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Re: Incentive to get busy learning how to use my O-GPS1

2013-09-12 Thread Rob Studdert
There is an official Pentax video on the cal procedure somewhere, I
will try to find the link. My advice would be to do the cal then the
fine cal for the astro function on site and make sure that you are
well away from the car or other magnetic objects as they will affect
the accuracy of the compass. I started out feeding it with Lithium
batteries but have since moved on toe AAA Eneloop cells, they do
discharge when the unit is off but I've never checked parasitic
drain current or taken detailed notes on battery life, I just fit a
new battery when the warning indicator shows.

On 13 September 2013 12:55, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I've read about the battery issue. It sounds like it draws
 battery even when it is off. I've got rechargable AAAs, so I will just
 plan on starting with a full charge any time I plan on using it. I
 haven't heard anybody say that they run out before a night's session.

 I have a theory that the precise calibration can be pretty important
 and I have a plan to make mine VERY precise. It involves turning a
 bowling ball into a large ballhead for the precise calibration
 process. I plan on experimenting with the amount of time to move in
 each axis (you have up to 20 seconds for each of the three axis). I
 have the feeling that a lot of people do it too fast or inaccurately.
 I've also heard that people got better results when they upgraded to
 the latest camera firmware.

 My hero with the O-GPS1 (and a K-5, now K-5 iis) is a frenchman,
 Stéphane Poirier. His stuff is amazing.
 http://poirierstephane.free.fr/photos/index.php?/category/132

 They are made from a stack of shorter exposures. He uses the DA*
 200mm f2.8 and says that the O-GPS1 will give you 30 sec to 1 minute
 exposure times with that focal length (depending upon the declination
 of the object).

 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 13 September 2013 08:09, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I've used my O-GPS1, but I find it really unreliable in terms of it
 finding a GPS signal in a reasonable amount of time. When I took it
 around southeastern Australia in 2012, I'd have to wait five or more
 minutes for it to get things figured out, and it's only slightly
 faster here in California. Although I still carry it in my kit, I
 rarely use it these days. The one time I tried the AstroTracer
 feature, the results were pretty bad. Overall I'm not super impressed
 with it.

 When it works it seems pretty good but it does take an extraordinarily
 long time to lock sometimes (noticeable when the phone takes seconds)
 and it's really touch on batteries too.

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread knarf
Certainly seems from another era - even though I'm sure it's from a modern, 
state of the art truck.

Levers, knobs, guages? 

Cool stuff, cool pic.

Cheers,
frank

Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525440
Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO - Smoke Effects

2013-09-12 Thread knarf
Gorgeous! 

Cheers,
frank

Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
There has been some smoke in our area from the Yosemite Rim fire that
provided an opportunity.

Taken with the K5, Sigma 100-300/4 EX

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/101434682@N06/9725783174/#large

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Re: PESO - That Way!

2013-09-12 Thread knarf
Like!

Cheers,
frank

Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yesterday's was Which way?, so now I'll answer the question.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524180size=lg

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17524180-lg.jpg

Rick

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Re: PESO: Control Panel

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:29 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Certainly seems from another era - even though I'm sure it's from a modern, 
 state of the art truck.

 Levers, knobs, guages?

 Cool stuff, cool pic.

 Cheers,
 frank

 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
Controls of the pumper truck of the local fire company:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525440
Comments are invited.

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K-5IIs First Impressions

2013-09-12 Thread Brendan MacRae
First new Pentax I've had since the K-20D arrived yesterday. Here are
the the things I liked immediately:

- Locking Mode Dial
- ISO/compensation buttons and location
- LCD
-100% Finder
- Overall build quality
- low-light focusing is a big improvement
- price from Adorama was 995 with a $100 gift card (card was put
toward battery grip)

Things I didn't like:

- not sure if I want the fn button back or not
- a movie button would be nice but having it on the mode dial is fine
- the SD card door on the K-20 feels more solid than on the K-5IIs
- focus point select and four-way get in each others way

I probably say this about every Pentax and I know it cuts across the
grain as far as their design principle goes but it's too small for me.
I bought the battery grip like I did with the K-10/20 so there's more
to hold and makes it bit heavier which I like in a camera.

I shot some video today and was really pleased at the results. I will
put it up on the HD monitor tomorrow and see what it looks like there.

Overall, I'm not disappointed. The slow low-light focusing of the
K-20D was a big issue for me, the new focusing system is much
improved. The new LCD is very sharp and I like the layout of the menus
- easy to navigate as always (I recently had the misfortune of trying
to navigate the menu on a ND7100 - and no joke, it was a
nightmare).

I'll really try to give it a workout over the weekend and maybe even
post a picture or two.

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Re: PESO: A Shot in the Dark

2013-09-12 Thread knarf
All things considered, a very good catch!

Cheers,
frank

Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
Literally.  When I took the dog out tonight, he discovered this new
friend.  It was almost totally dark, but I managed to get a quick and
dirty image anyway.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525893

K-r with smc DA 18-136 mm F3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF} DC WR and AF-360FGZ
Comments are invited.

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Re: A Photographer’s Take On The iPhone 5S Camera

2013-09-12 Thread kwaller

Pretty interesting if a bit long.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: OT: A Photographer’s Take On The iPhone 5S Camera



http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/12/a-photographers-take-on-the-iphone-5s-camera/



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Re: PESO: A Shot in the Dark

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:01 AM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 All things considered, a very good catch!

 Cheers,
 frank

 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
Literally.  When I took the dog out tonight, he discovered this new
friend.  It was almost totally dark, but I managed to get a quick and
dirty image anyway.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17525893

K-r with smc DA 18-136 mm F3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF} DC WR and AF-360FGZ
Comments are invited.

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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Boris Liberman

On 9/12/2013 10:21 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

Yes, particularly given the wastage for the benefit of modularity, and
double particularly given the lack of support for auto-focus of
non-module lenses.  But I'd still consider one if it had a built-in EVF,
which is why I put my comment in quotes to indicate that it wasn't
specifically my opinion.


Without disrespect, Aahz, but you appear to totally miss the point. You 
have two choices

1. Modules with AF and non-replaceable lens
2. Module without AF and replaceable lens

It is on purpose. Also, Leica M-mount has no such thing as AF to start 
with...


Boris



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Re: PESO - Passenger

2013-09-12 Thread Bruce
Kind of fun to see you get the 'look' - if I were shooting street I would 
probably always get the look.  I'm not very adept at those kind of shots. 

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On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:09 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Caught red-handed:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/09/passenger.html?m=1
 
 :-)
 
 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
 
 Cheers,
 frank
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Re: GESO 2013 - Annual Party - GDG

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 9/12/2013 22:56, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Thanks Anne! ;-)

Yeah, the the Impossible Project film costs a bundle. The SX-70s do sell, 
though: there seems to be a limited but stable demand for them. A typical 
average I see on Ebay for an original SX-70 in decent condition is around 
$80-125.

G


Ok I'm heading for the closet :-)

ann



On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


Thank me too :-)

Makes me want to find my SX-70 - I could never afford the film these days, but 
it might go on Ebay.

Looks like fun - also enjoyed the odd stuff going on with the Nikon and the 
cellphone that is in another post somewhere

ann



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Re: GESO - 10 very recent photos

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Thanks muchly for comments and choices,   Godders,Bruce, Dan, Paul, 
Knarf,Brendon  and future commenters...


Interesting always to see who likes which best when one puts up a batch 
of unthemed pics.


and now, to sleep... z

ann


On 9/12/2013 22:13, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

My heart is on the High Line


That's the one! Super!

Godfrey


On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:


Those are great, Ann. I *really* like My heart is on the High Line.
Also love Rain Stops. I didn't know you were a bokeh cultist like me.
;-)


On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

(including two you've seen)


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recent-NYC/31835949_JqDbwJ#!i=2716040784k=N6FzgHx

coming up for air from multiple annoyances and chores

most of these shots are within the last 2 weeks..

Three rainy day ones were earlier this afternoon... In a bit of good
fortune, I arrived at the bus stop that heads downtown at the same time as
the bus, as it started to drizzle. The normally 10 minute trip to Chinatown
lasted nearly 30 minutes and most of it was under a downpour.
It had stopped just before I got off the bus.  For those of you who
know the area and distance.. that was St Marks Place down 2nd to
Houston, over to Allen to Hester St (used to stop at grand). treated myself
to 5 pot stickers for $1.25 at my favorite dumpling house on
Christie, gathered BBQ roast pork and chicken over rice for later and
other groceries - got back home well before the predicted serious storm
set in - that is going full tilt now.





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Re: PESO - That Way!

2013-09-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele

hehe -
ann

On 9/12/2013 23:24, knarf wrote:

Like!

Cheers,
frank

Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

Yesterday's was Which way?, so now I'll answer the question.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17524180size=lg

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17524180-lg.jpg

Rick


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Re: Which second party camera system do you like? Mini-survey

2013-09-12 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013, Boris Liberman wrote:
 On 9/12/2013 10:21 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

Yes, particularly given the wastage for the benefit of modularity, and
double particularly given the lack of support for auto-focus of
non-module lenses.  But I'd still consider one if it had a built-in EVF,
which is why I put my comment in quotes to indicate that it wasn't
specifically my opinion.
 
 Without disrespect, Aahz, but you appear to totally miss the point.

Nope, you're missing my point.  ;-)

 You have two choices
 1. Modules with AF and non-replaceable lens
 2. Module without AF and replaceable lens
 
 It is on purpose. Also, Leica M-mount has no such thing as AF to
 start with...

Exactly!  Therefore anyone who isn't already invested in Leica will have
little to zero interest in that module.  Lacking an AF replaceable lens
module severely limits the market for the GXR.  If it had a built-in EVF,
the non-replaceable-lens modules would be more interesting.
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