Re: wifi live view
Quoting Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. That should be shit-tonne. ;-) -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 05:02:12PM +1100, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. That should be shit-tonne. I thought it was Imperial shit-tonne, and a metric (technically an ISO) shit-ton. I believe ASA also uses shit-ton, but I could be mistaken. ;-) -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
That should be shit-tonne. I thought it was Imperial shit-tonne, and a metric (technically an ISO) shit-ton. I believe ASA also uses shit-ton, but I could be mistaken. Definitely Tonne in metric. Of course it all depends.. If you have a metric 'ton' of shit, that's a shit-tonne. But if you have an imperial ton of metric shit, that would be a shitte-ton. Then for a metric 'ton' of metric shit, that would of course be one shitte-tonne. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Aliasing question
I have no problems getting clear hand-held shots with ASA 400 film at f/2.8, 1/4-1/8 second, EV 3 on the chart you referenced. Without IS. With my G1, I find quite a number of excellent shots, even of people moving, at light levels which, according to your chart, is ISO -1. Heck, I have some very nice results with the older sensors in the L1 and E-1 at EV -1, 0 and 1 too. With the E-5, with IBIS, I have some work down in the -2 to -4 range; some of those were on client jobs. It looked great in publication ... That's why I bought the E-5, for the extra couple of stops of sensitivity when I was shooting events and editorial portraiture. I can't say what other people get with their cameras. I'm not them. But I suspect your notion of low light and how superior the K5 might be is somewhat arbitrary and suffers from a lack of experience with the FT/mFT cameras. They do better than you seem to think in low light. BTW: I'm not saying the K5 is bad, the sensor performance is actually darn good. But it's not the Holy Grail by any means. (Note: I don't own any of the f/0.95 lenses. My fastest lenses are f/1.4, most of my lenses are f/2 or f/2.8. A lot of my low light Pentax work was done with the excellent 20-35/4 and 21/3.2 Limited.) I'll let you know how the E-M1 performs in dim light. ;-) G On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:03:42PM -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Please define low light vs dim light for me. EV values would be useful as a basis of comparison. I guess I'd say that low light is in the range where it is challenging to get a clear photo, hand held, even with a K-5. Looking at this chart, which only goes up to ISO 3200: http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm#EXPOSURE%20FACTOR%20RELATIONSHIP%20CHART%20B It looks like that's somewhere around EV -1, or EV 0, maybe as high as EV 1. ISO 3200, 1/8 second f/1.4 is EV -1 I'd say that dim light is in the range where it would be challenging to get a clear shot, hand held with one of my film cameras ISO 400, 1/30 second f/1.4 is is EV 4. It is my gut feeling that up until the current (soon to be previous) generation of u4/3 they were probably OK up to about EV 3. The current generation is probably good to EV 2, maybe 1 before things start getting rough. Most of my experience is based on looking at one or two other people's photos, so I'm not going say my figures are exact. But with the current generation sensors, and the faster shorter lenses available in u4/3, their low light ability is close to that of a K-5 thanks to the extra stop of speed you can get with the f/0.95 lens, and focus peaking for low light focus. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 097 - GDG
For a minute I thought this was your entry in the America's Cup. Little small though ;-) -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: A new project beckons ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10169937905/lightbox thanks for looking. comments always appreciated. Godfrey - www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
I can imagine a number of very humorous scenes, each of which I would certainly like to photograph with my very lowly (by comparison with K-3) Ricoh GXR + M-module. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
A most picturesque remark. Alan -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: wifi live view It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
Nice shot. That's the name of a bike cafe near where I work: http://www.lookmumnohands.com B On 10 Oct 2013, at 04:31, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
Nice trick, Ma will be proud:) -- Attila On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Nice shot. That's the name of a bike cafe near where I work: http://www.lookmumnohands.com B On 10 Oct 2013, at 04:31, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
On Oct 10, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: That's the name of a bike cafe near where I work: http://www.lookmumnohands.com Cool. A nephew works in a place like this in Phoenix. Don't think there's one in Atlanta. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence. - Charles Bukowski -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bridge
Thanks Brian! Good point about the sky, I'll keep that in mind. -- Attila On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Excellent. A very peaceful scene, well exposed. The sky's interesting - would have liked to haves seen more of it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Aliasing question
On 9/10/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: (Psst: My new camera is on the way to me now, although I doubt anyone on the PDML is interested to know that other than a couple of friends. However, Cotty will gush over it when I carry it to the UK next year. It is sexy. ];-) Brute -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Red Rocket
Very nice paint, looks like new. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
Looks like my type of place. Bikes and coffee! Thanks for the nice words, Bob. Cheers, frank Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Nice shot. That's the name of a bike cafe near where I work: http://www.lookmumnohands.com B On 10 Oct 2013, at 04:31, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 097 - GDG
That's just lovely. Beautifully composed, love the light. Cheers, frank Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: A new project beckons ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10169937905/lightbox thanks for looking. comments always appreciated. Godfrey - www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/ “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Aliasing question
On 09/10/2013, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: I just ordered a K3, as well as the battery grip, 35-135 lens, flu-card and dongle from my local pusher. I think I need help. You seem to be managing quite well. Unless you mean that you need help paying - in which case, I'll see you around. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
Definitely Tonne in metric. Of course it all depends.. If you have a metric 'ton' of shit, that's a shit-tonne. But if you have an imperial ton of metric shit, that would be a shitte-ton. Then for a metric 'ton' of metric shit, that would of course be one shitte-tonne. - Peter The various language sections of the owner's manual will adapt accordingly, you can be sure. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
On 09/10/2013 8:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 09:42:36PM -0400, Mark C wrote: On 10/9/2013 9:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:46:33PM -0400, Mark C wrote: On 10/9/2013 8:41 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Pentax marketing is being PRAISED? http://petapixel.com/2013/10/09/attention-camera-marketing-departments-tell-sensor/ Pinch me, I must be dreaming. I think that's when you realize that it's Ricoh and not Pentax OMG! Pentax is DOOOomed! I think the Pentax brand has more going for it now than it has had in years. thanks to Ricoh... Watch the sarchasm, that first step is a doozy. Pentax has been on it's way out since I was selling cameras 30 years ago. They went from being an industry leader to a wannabe in one generation of cameras. All of a sudden, they have something to market that, in many ways, leapfrogs the competition rather than being two steps behind with their best. There is no sarcasm in looking at what they have come up with here and saying they have more on the ball now than they have had for nearly three decades. It seems to have worked out for Pentax, finally. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
On 09/10/2013 11:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. Prepare to be buried, then. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
Good timing. I think the other guy watching really adds to the shot. The expression on his face is great. -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com Pentax has been on it's way out since I was selling cameras 30 years ago. They went from being an industry leader to a wannabe in one generation of cameras. All of a sudden, they have something to market that, in many ways, leapfrogs the competition rather than being two steps behind with their best. There is no sarcasm in looking at what they have come up with here and saying they have more on the ball now than they have had for nearly three decades. It seems to have worked out for Pentax, finally. bill I agree with much of what you say, but leapfrogs??? It's still a 24MP camera that's a year and a half to two years late. It's amazing that 3 months ago the K-5/K-5II fulfilled everyone's needs and 'why would one want more resolution?', and now it's goo-goo ga-ga over the K-3. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
From the Urban Dictionary: Like a metric assload, a metric shit ton is exactly 204.62262 pounds more than a shit ton. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/10/2013 11:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. Prepare to be buried, then. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
Wow. I thought that most of us had advanced beyond thinking that megapixels was the only metric to use when comparing DSLR capabilities. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com Pentax has been on it's way out since I was selling cameras 30 years ago. They went from being an industry leader to a wannabe in one generation of cameras. All of a sudden, they have something to market that, in many ways, leapfrogs the competition rather than being two steps behind with their best. There is no sarcasm in looking at what they have come up with here and saying they have more on the ball now than they have had for nearly three decades. It seems to have worked out for Pentax, finally. bill I agree with much of what you say, but leapfrogs??? It's still a 24MP camera that's a year and a half to two years late. It's amazing that 3 months ago the K-5/K-5II fulfilled everyone's needs and 'why would one want more resolution?', and now it's goo-goo ga-ga over the K-3. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
I suspect that near viewer is there to help keep the stunt rider from going over the edge. He may, actually, be too close to the action. Well caught action moment, Frank. Jack On Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:00 AM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Good timing. I think the other guy watching really adds to the shot. The expression on his face is great. -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Geso Camera Club trip on our heritage railway.
Thanks Mark C and everyone else who comment or had a peek. Dave On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: That's a fine collection, Dave. Your compositions mesh well with the (apparently) gloomy and overcast day. My favorites are 9, 13, 14, and 17, but the whole set is excellent. Mark On 10/7/2013 6:56 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Back in May i did a steam train trip, in Tottenham, and this past weekend eight of us from the club went on a fall colour trip by train to Uxbridge and return. Not much colour, lots of fog. Here is a gallery of 30 shots paired down from about 150. http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-YDHR1/album/index.html K-5 D FA 16-45 Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
Excellent! On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:31 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
Darren Addy wrote: Wow. I thought that most of us had advanced beyond thinking that megapixels was the only metric to use when comparing DSLR capabilities. Dear Darren, 1. What are you comparing? You haven't touched it yet. 2. You beat the same old drum even when Pentax now has a higher resolution body. 3. MP is one of the few attributes that can be stated unequivocally as a number and is a known metric. 4. If you don't believe imaging sensor resolution is not among the most important metrics in determining the technical 'quality' of a recorded image (along with the resolving power of the lens at X aperture, and yes noise characteristics, etc.), then you're missing something. Your use of the word 'only' was presumptuous and mistaken. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
Wow. I thought that most of us had advanced beyond thinking that megapixels was the only metric to use when comparing DSLR capabilities. How soon we forget ... that the bigger the neg the better the image. Pixel count is merely the digital equivalent of larger film formats -- except we get to keep our lenses. So it's like the old 6-10Mp cameras equal shooting 125 and now we all have blad equivalent bodies and still drool for more. If there's one principle that defines American society it is embodied in the term upgrade. And we're all guilty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Darren Addy wrote: Wow. I thought that most of us had advanced beyond thinking that megapixels was the only metric to use when comparing DSLR capabilities. Dear Darren, 1. What are you comparing? You haven't touched it yet. What are bashing? You haven't touched it yet. 2. You beat the same old drum even when Pentax now has a higher resolution body. Not sure what you are referring to when you say beat the same old drum, and maybe you haven't been following the earlier threads on the K-3 specs - but this camera is upgraded in wy more ways than just a higher resolution sensor. To me the biggest thing that unlocks most of its capabilities is the PRIME III image processor (Fujitsu Milbeaut version 7). Others are intrigued by the innovative, selectable AA. Others are happy that Pentax finally appears to be catching up in the AF arena. ALL of these upgrades in one camera? 3. MP is one of the few attributes that can be stated unequivocally as a number and is a known metric. This is certainly true, but it is like judging a computer based only on the speed of the processor and not looking at the other components like bus speed, etc. etc. Cameras and computers are similar in that, just because a new processor comes out (or a new sensor) there may not be hardware and software that can take advantage of all of its capabilities for a year or two. That is why the age of the processor (even if it is 1-1/2 year old technology) doesn't matter. The PRIME III can handle the data that sensor puts out. The Nikon D7100 is an example of a camera with the same sensor, but crippled by using the previous generation of image processor in concert with it. (Nikon - and other manufacturers that use the Milbeaut v7 - will catch up, and probably very soon, but there is a reason why Nikon guru Thom Hogan was moaning about how the K-3 meets the needs of a certain demographic of serious photographer that Nikon seems to be neglecting). 4. If you don't believe imaging sensor resolution is not among the most important metrics in determining the technical 'quality' of a recorded image (along with the resolving power of the lens at X aperture, and yes noise characteristics, etc.), then you're missing something. Where did you get the impression that I don't think it is among the most important components? Your use of the word 'only' was presumptuous and mistaken. [Rereads the message that I was replying to.] Yep. The higher resolution sensor was the ONLY thing you mentioned. Not that being presumptuous and mistaken is entirely foreign to me, however. :) -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
Wow. I thought that most of us had advanced beyond thinking that megapixels was the only metric to use when comparing DSLR capabilities. How soon we forget ... that the bigger the neg the better the image. Pixel count is merely the digital equivalent of larger film formats -- Snore. Snore. Sno ... Wazzat? Oh, did something interesting happen? G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
You are oversimplifying things a bit Collin. In the film world there was more than size, there was WHAT FILM you put in the camera. You had your choice of different speed films and had to pay a price in the grain (for example). Similarly, in the digital world more pixels does not equal larger negative if the resolution is offset by greater noise (which is what happens when you put more pixels on the SAME SIZE SENSOR). Loss in the S/N ration department means loss of dynamic range too. The camera's design has to mitigate those problems for there to be a real improvement. That's why I'm very interested to see what Pentax has done with this sensor, especially in the dynamic range and high ISO noise departments. Those are the two metrics that are the most important (to me). I'm in no hurry to upgrade, in any event, but I'm happy to see the patience of the Pentax community rewarded by what looks like what will be the top APS-C camera on the market (for the moment, at least). In any event, it should remain a very good buy for a good couple of years, assuming it's performance is as exciting as its specs. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:28 AM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Wow. I thought that most of us had advanced beyond thinking that megapixels was the only metric to use when comparing DSLR capabilities. How soon we forget ... that the bigger the neg the better the image. Pixel count is merely the digital equivalent of larger film formats -- except we get to keep our lenses. So it's like the old 6-10Mp cameras equal shooting 125 and now we all have blad equivalent bodies and still drool for more. If there's one principle that defines American society it is embodied in the term upgrade. And we're all guilty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Red Rocket
Your photo brings out their classic look. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 19:04:21 -0400 From: knarfknarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Red Rocket Message-ID:8ec7f3b8-ba2a-431c-ad00-f7d8194f1...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for about 30 years now, they've spruced up one or two and use them for touristie things: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/red-rocket.html?m=1 I think they can be chartered, too. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank ?Analysis kills spontaneity.? -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
Definitely a winner. Should be cover shot of the book you are publishing. You are collecting these for a book? Aren't you. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 10 Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:31:13 -0400 From: knarfknarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands Message-ID:3c5ff3a5-380a-4293-8275-8405d9673...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank ?Analysis kills spontaneity.? -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:Re: Peso The Game
Thanks Marnie, I had not looked at that way. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 21:20:48 -0400 (EDT) From:eactiv...@aol.com To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Peso The Game Message-ID:9f47d.3fd803c.3f875...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Interesting. Especially contrast between center character and the others. I like it. Marnie aka Doe:-) In a message dated 10/7/2013 12:51:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shark50...@gmail.com writes: Here is one I've been meaning to post for a week or two. Don't ask me what camera I used. It wasn't k-3. CC etc. https://plus.google.com/100687245332697763729/posts/GKQfMf8e9s7 http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/10143301786/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
Darren Addy wrote: What are bashing? You haven't touched it yet. You. :) Certainly not the K-3. I was reacting to the word leapfrogs in Bill's post. Not sure what you are referring to when you say beat the same old drum, and maybe you haven't been following the earlier threads on the K-3 specs - but this camera is upgraded in wy more ways than just a higher resolution sensor. To me the biggest thing that unlocks most of its capabilities is the PRIME III image processor (Fujitsu Milbeaut version 7). Others are intrigued by the innovative, selectable AA. Others are happy that Pentax finally appears to be catching up in the AF arena. ALL of these upgrades in one camera? When the topic has come up regarding the lack of a higher resolution sensor you tend to downplay the desirability of one when Pentax doesn't have one and make statements like 'it's not the only thing that's important', which is true. Then when I mention just the 24MP sensor, without mentioning other specifications, you infer my 'thinking has not advanced' regarding the importance of MP, as if it was retarded. That's what I mean. Yes I understood all that. I heard that AF was upgraded on the K-7, the K-5, and the K-5II as well. I'm not saying it's not on the K-3. It is on paper. We'll know when someone is able to objectively test it. This is certainly true, but it is like judging a computer based only on the speed of the processor and not looking at the other components like bus speed, etc. etc. Cameras and computers are similar in that, just because a new processor comes out (or a new sensor) there may not be hardware and software that can take advantage of all of its capabilities for a year or two. That is why the age of the processor (even if it is 1-1/2 year old technology) doesn't matter. The PRIME III can handle the data that sensor puts out. The Nikon D7100 is an example of a camera with the same sensor, but crippled by using the previous generation of image processor in concert with it. (Nikon - and other manufacturers that use the Milbeaut v7 - will catch up, and probably very soon, but there is a reason why Nikon guru Thom Hogan was moaning about how the K-3 meets the needs of a certain demographic of serious photographer that Nikon seems to be neglecting). It's your assumption that it's the only thing I judge it on. The sensor MP was the only thing I mentioned because it's an easy number to reference and defines the camera in many ways. Manufacturers and writers don't say the The K-3 is a PRIME III camera, or the K-3 is a Milbeaut X camera, or 'the K-3 is an 8.3 FPS camera'. They say the K-3 is a 24MP camera because the sensor is the preeminent component. I wasn't planning on reiterating the entire list of specifications. I read Thom Hogan also. As you say he's a Nikon afficiando. Much of what he writes though is criticisms of Nikon in the hopes that it will possibly influence their decision making. I suspect the use of image processor is largely a case of 'what' was available 'when'. Where did you get the impression that I don't think it is among the most important components? Really now Darren. :) [Rereads the message that I was replying to.] Yep. The higher resolution sensor was the ONLY thing you mentioned. Not that being presumptuous and mistaken is entirely foreign to me, however. :) See above. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
You are oversimplifying things a bit Collin. Simplifying yes, but not, I would argue, oversimplifying. Different films have the characteristic differences of changes to sensors and firmware behind them. Certainly nobody would argue that all DSLRs are functional equivalents. What comes after that is how much information can be packed into an image. I agree that the K3 looks to be a real leader. Let's just hope that it is not orphaned like the last 2 outstanding solutions from Pentax -- LX and MZ-S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OM-D E-M5 (was Aliasing question)
Good point. No, I mean like wait a year (or eight months or so) for a real drop and more used cameras on the market. Buy some used Canon gear until then. When it comes to cameras, I've learned to be patient. Marnie aka Doe -- The Former Pentaxian ;-) In a message dated 10/9/2013 10:37:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, a...@pobox.com writes: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Pssst. I am still seriously interested in the Olympus EM-5. BUT... going to wait until I can get it used. keh.com currently has them for $695/LN- or $665/EX+ (I'd probably go ahead and spend the extra $30 for LN- but it really doesn't matter AFAICT). They probably will drop a bit more once the E-M1 (note the correct hyphen placement) ships, but I bet much of the drop has already occurred (new is currently $950 at bhphoto). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
Nice one, frank. Like the guy to the side, he looks ticked off that the other is doing so well. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/9/2013 8:31:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
I was reacting to the word leapfrogs in Bill's post. I know you were. The thing that, frankly, bugs me the most about your criticisms, in particular, is that they come from someone who has no personal experience with Pentax bodies since the K-7. What you cannot know, from personal experience, is that Pentax leapfrogged the competition in the APS-C world, in the metric that is important to most people (Image Quality, even at higher ISOs) when they introduced the K-5. In your mind, apparently it didn't happen. In fact, it has been only relatively recently that anything APS-C has even come close to SURPASSING it. And as they do, Pentax appears to be raising the bar yet again with the K-3. (I'm not one of those people who just has to have the latest/greatest of everything, but I'm happy to see that after their ownership change and all of the wondering by the Pentax faithful that the company answers the bell with so strong of a product - according to the specs. I realize it remains to be seen if the K-3 delivers on what its specs promise, but if you can name another APS-C camera ( that has been announced today) that comes out in front of the K-3 even if only in specs, I think we'd all love to hear it. If you can't then the K-3 will become the APS-C front-runner. It will have gotten there by leapfrogging the competition. Nothing wrong (at all) with Bill's choice of words and thus nothing to react to, unless you have a (severely dull) axe to grind. Aside: If the switchable AA filter thing works as intended, it will be something that Nikon and Canon *can't* easily replicate - since they don't have sensor movement as part of their current design. Sony might, some day. I sincerely hope you are happy with your D800E and your Sony NEX-7. They are both fine cameras and I understand your rationale for choosing them (very valid, IMHO). But what I truly don't get is why it makes you happy to urinate in the Cheerios of those who still like Pentax products. What does that do for you? More than anybody on this list, I'm sure that I've gained the most from your leaving Pentax for Nikon/Sony. I've gained your Bigma, your DA 16-45mm, and a BG-4 grip. I'm much obliged. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Must say my Good Bye's
You meant to say You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave Chris On 9 October 2013 18:51, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You'll be back, seems like no one ever leaves for good. On 10/9/2013 9:05 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the best. You truly are some great photographers! Walt -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: IR's self-potrait in IR (and other science-fun photos)
Quite interesting, all of them. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: The title says it all. http://42graphy.org/science/2013-04-physfest/demos/_IR04201.html I don't remember if I had shown this one earlier. I thought I did, but I cannot find the photo on the website or the message that had sent. I am going through the photos taken at the Physics Festival earlier this year. If you are science-image-curious, - take a look at this plasma discharge: http://42graphy.org/science/2013-04-physfest/demos/_IR04476.html Larry, this is not moire, even though it is shot with K-5IIs camera: http://42graphy.org/science/2013-04-physfest/demos/_IR04850.html Rather, it is a standing wave - this is what happens when you generate sound by sliding your finger on the glass. Larry, - you may also want to see how I used the 8mm fisheye with this one: http://42graphy.org/science/2013-04-physfest/demos/_IR04821.html and surrounding photos. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Two Guitars, Two Weeks (2 photos)
Welp! As some of you may remember, I was recently bitten by the guitar bug, so I went out and got a Lâg Tramontane T66D, which struck me as a hell of a guitar for the money. And I loved it. Fast-forward two weeks, and . . . well: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192635745/ Seems in my haste to get out the door at the end of my shift the other night, I slung my gig bag over my shoulder without bothering to zip it first. I was fairly heartbroken -- the closest I'd come to tears in years. So, in order to help mend the heartbreak, I started trawling around the local classifieds and Craigslist. And, as luck would have it, I happened upon what seemed like a great deal: a Jasmine S35 (Takamine's budget line) with a brand new set of unopened D'Addario strings, a Snark digital tuner, a Kyser cap, a Stage guitar stand -- all for the whopping total of $50. I'd owned a Jasmine years ago and really liked it, but had to give it to my uncle after a friend of mine tripped over and stepped on the one he'd loaned me at a party. This one, however, I like even more as it has a satin/natural finish: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192719793/ So, my heart has mended quite a bit. I love the way it sounds, and after a good setup from the guitar shop, I think I'm going to really love the way it plays. The action is a bit high, but the tone is really nice. As I see it, I got a good deal on some accessories I already wanted, and a damn nice guitar thrown in for free. Tough to beat that, huh? As for my Lâg, I put some Gorilla Glue in the break and clamped it down for a bit. It still plays like new, and even still very good sustain. The repair job wasn't the tidiest, but the fact of the matter is, it's a $200 guitar with a broken headstock. It's not like I was going to be able to get good money out of it, irrespective of the aesthetics of the repair job. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Must say my Good Bye's
Sorry to hear you're leaving, Walt. I certainly do wish you the best. -- (The Other) Walt On 10/9/2013 8:05 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the best. You truly are some great photographers! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two Guitars, Two Weeks (2 photos)
Rather sad, but glad you fixed it. All you need now is some fancy ornamental wood or metalwork to hide the break. (Perhaps a screw or two first). Alan -Original Message- From: Walt Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Two Guitars, Two Weeks (2 photos) Welp! As some of you may remember, I was recently bitten by the guitar bug, so I went out and got a Lâg Tramontane T66D, which struck me as a hell of a guitar for the money. And I loved it. Fast-forward two weeks, and . . . well: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192635745/ Seems in my haste to get out the door at the end of my shift the other night, I slung my gig bag over my shoulder without bothering to zip it first. I was fairly heartbroken -- the closest I'd come to tears in years. So, in order to help mend the heartbreak, I started trawling around the local classifieds and Craigslist. And, as luck would have it, I happened upon what seemed like a great deal: a Jasmine S35 (Takamine's budget line) with a brand new set of unopened D'Addario strings, a Snark digital tuner, a Kyser cap, a Stage guitar stand -- all for the whopping total of $50. I'd owned a Jasmine years ago and really liked it, but had to give it to my uncle after a friend of mine tripped over and stepped on the one he'd loaned me at a party. This one, however, I like even more as it has a satin/natural finish: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192719793/ So, my heart has mended quite a bit. I love the way it sounds, and after a good setup from the guitar shop, I think I'm going to really love the way it plays. The action is a bit high, but the tone is really nice. As I see it, I got a good deal on some accessories I already wanted, and a damn nice guitar thrown in for free. Tough to beat that, huh? As for my Lâg, I put some Gorilla Glue in the break and clamped it down for a bit. It still plays like new, and even still very good sustain. The repair job wasn't the tidiest, but the fact of the matter is, it's a $200 guitar with a broken headstock. It's not like I was going to be able to get good money out of it, irrespective of the aesthetics of the repair job. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two Guitars, Two Weeks (2 photos)
Oh dear! The Jasmine looks good - a slightly rounded shoulder Dreadnought. Good that you're able to do a fix on the Lâg as well. You seem to be a little accident prone with your guitars... Chris On 10 October 2013 19:07, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Welp! As some of you may remember, I was recently bitten by the guitar bug, so I went out and got a Lâg Tramontane T66D, which struck me as a hell of a guitar for the money. And I loved it. Fast-forward two weeks, and . . . well: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192635745/ Seems in my haste to get out the door at the end of my shift the other night, I slung my gig bag over my shoulder without bothering to zip it first. I was fairly heartbroken -- the closest I'd come to tears in years. So, in order to help mend the heartbreak, I started trawling around the local classifieds and Craigslist. And, as luck would have it, I happened upon what seemed like a great deal: a Jasmine S35 (Takamine's budget line) with a brand new set of unopened D'Addario strings, a Snark digital tuner, a Kyser cap, a Stage guitar stand -- all for the whopping total of $50. I'd owned a Jasmine years ago and really liked it, but had to give it to my uncle after a friend of mine tripped over and stepped on the one he'd loaned me at a party. This one, however, I like even more as it has a satin/natural finish: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192719793/ So, my heart has mended quite a bit. I love the way it sounds, and after a good setup from the guitar shop, I think I'm going to really love the way it plays. The action is a bit high, but the tone is really nice. As I see it, I got a good deal on some accessories I already wanted, and a damn nice guitar thrown in for free. Tough to beat that, huh? As for my Lâg, I put some Gorilla Glue in the break and clamped it down for a bit. It still plays like new, and even still very good sustain. The repair job wasn't the tidiest, but the fact of the matter is, it's a $200 guitar with a broken headstock. It's not like I was going to be able to get good money out of it, irrespective of the aesthetics of the repair job. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Must say my Good Bye's
Or alternatively: We hear you're leaving, that's ok I thought our little wild time had just begun I guess you kind of scared yourself, you turn and run But if you have a change of heart... Walter don't lose that number etc. On 10 October 2013 18:42, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: You meant to say You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave Chris On 9 October 2013 18:51, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You'll be back, seems like no one ever leaves for good. On 10/9/2013 9:05 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the best. You truly are some great photographers! Walt -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Two Guitars, Two Weeks (2 photos)
Thanks, Alan. The ornamental metalwork sounds like a great idea. I may just have to look into that. There are a couple of luthiers in the area, one is a friend-of-a-friend. Maybe I'll give him a call. -- Walt On 10/10/2013 1:23 PM, Alan C wrote: Rather sad, but glad you fixed it. All you need now is some fancy ornamental wood or metalwork to hide the break. (Perhaps a screw or two first). Alan -Original Message- From: Walt Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO: Two Guitars, Two Weeks (2 photos) Welp! As some of you may remember, I was recently bitten by the guitar bug, so I went out and got a Lâg Tramontane T66D, which struck me as a hell of a guitar for the money. And I loved it. Fast-forward two weeks, and . . . well: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192635745/ Seems in my haste to get out the door at the end of my shift the other night, I slung my gig bag over my shoulder without bothering to zip it first. I was fairly heartbroken -- the closest I'd come to tears in years. So, in order to help mend the heartbreak, I started trawling around the local classifieds and Craigslist. And, as luck would have it, I happened upon what seemed like a great deal: a Jasmine S35 (Takamine's budget line) with a brand new set of unopened D'Addario strings, a Snark digital tuner, a Kyser cap, a Stage guitar stand -- all for the whopping total of $50. I'd owned a Jasmine years ago and really liked it, but had to give it to my uncle after a friend of mine tripped over and stepped on the one he'd loaned me at a party. This one, however, I like even more as it has a satin/natural finish: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192719793/ So, my heart has mended quite a bit. I love the way it sounds, and after a good setup from the guitar shop, I think I'm going to really love the way it plays. The action is a bit high, but the tone is really nice. As I see it, I got a good deal on some accessories I already wanted, and a damn nice guitar thrown in for free. Tough to beat that, huh? As for my Lâg, I put some Gorilla Glue in the break and clamped it down for a bit. It still plays like new, and even still very good sustain. The repair job wasn't the tidiest, but the fact of the matter is, it's a $200 guitar with a broken headstock. It's not like I was going to be able to get good money out of it, irrespective of the aesthetics of the repair job. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
I know you were. The thing that, frankly, bugs me the most about your criticisms, in particular, is that they come from someone who has no personal experience with Pentax bodies since the K-7. What you cannot know, from personal experience, is that Pentax leapfrogged the competition in the APS-C world, in the metric that is important to most people (Image Quality, even at higher ISOs) when they introduced the K-5. In your mind, apparently it didn't happen. In fact, it has been only relatively recently that anything APS-C has even come close to SURPASSING it. And as they do, Pentax appears to be raising the bar yet again with the K-3. (I'm not one of those people who just has to have the latest/greatest of everything, but I'm happy to see that after their ownership change and all of the wondering by the Pentax faithful that the company answers the bell with so strong of a product - according to the specs. And I say, so what if I didn't own a K-5? Whether I've owned a K-5 or not has not been the basis for my camera purchasing decisions. You make numerous claims about it's superiority yet I can figure you haven't actually picked up the competition and examined the output scientifically. What criticisms? Not of the K-5. I've never said the K-5 is an inferior camera in it's class. In fact by all accounts it's excellent in terms of high ISO. It seems to me that you take statistics and statements that are in reality a 'splitting of hairs' and then make grandiose statements like 'Pentax leapfrogged the competition in the APS-C world, in the metric that is important to most people (Image Quality, even at higher ISOs) when they introduced the K-5'. dpreview writes in it's K-5 review: The Pentax K-5's noise reduction does a remarkably good job and is pretty much on par with the best performing APS-C camera in low light that we've tested so far, the Nikon D7000 (not that much of a surprise as both cameras are built around the same sensor technology)... Generally the differences in high ISO performance between the APS-C models of this latest generation of digital SLRs is fairly small. The K-5 uses a slightly more contrasty tone-curve than the Nikon D7000 but in terms of detail the difference between the two cameras is marginal. dxomark: gives the K-5 sensor a score of 82 and the D7000, a score of 80. The K-5 is clearly better, right? dxomark goes on to write: Sensor Overall Score is logarithmic. A 5-point difference on the scale corresponds to a gain or loss of sensitivity of 1/3 of a stop. So the difference in real terms is less than 1/6 of a stop. Luminous Landscape explains: Don't get hung up on score differences of only a few points: 5 points is roughly the smallest visible difference in actual photos (DxO says it is equivalent to 1/3 stop). The measurements themselves appear to be repeatable in DxO’s lab to within one or two points Those and other reviews lead me to believe that the statement Pentax leapfrogged the competition is inaccurate and exaggerated. The reality is that the IQ between the K-5 and the D7000 at least, is almost identical and if one does have an edge it's likely invisible to the eye. Pentax leapfrogged their prior model, and the prior generation of sensors, not the competition. I realize it remains to be seen if the K-3 delivers on what its specs promise, but if you can name another APS-C camera ( that has been announced today) that comes out in front of the K-3 even if only in specs, I think we'd all love to hear it. If you can't then the K-3 will become the APS-C front-runner. It will have gotten there by leapfrogging the competition. Nothing wrong (at all) with Bill's choice of words and thus nothing to react to, unless you have a (severely dull) axe to grind. That's plain ridiculous Darren. If I can name another APS-C announced TODAY? What about tomorrow? I don't think the K-3 leapfrogs the competition. It's merely the newest Pentax model, to be followed by newer models by others, and by Ricoh (Pentax). If leapfrogging is something to be proud about then we might as well admit it doesn't really matter because you know how the game works. Aside: If the switchable AA filter thing works as intended, it will be something that Nikon and Canon *can't* easily replicate - since they don't have sensor movement as part of their current design. Sony might, some day. I frankly see that feature as a footnote that would not enter into a purchasing decision. I sincerely hope you are happy with your D800E and your Sony NEX-7. They are both fine cameras and I understand your rationale for choosing them (very valid, IMHO). But what I truly don't get is why it makes you happy to urinate in the Cheerios of those who still like Pentax products. What does that do for you? More than anybody on this list, I'm sure that I've gained the most from your leaving Pentax for Nikon/Sony. I've gained your Bigma, your DA 16-45mm, and a BG-4 grip. I'm much obliged. You're
Re: PESO: Two Guitars, Two Weeks (2 photos)
Thanks, Chris. And, yes -- I'm accident prone in all kinds of ways: cameras, lenses, guitars. But, believe it or not, I've only broken one glass as a bartender. I'm very selective about the kind of things I break. -- Walt On 10/10/2013 1:51 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Oh dear! The Jasmine looks good - a slightly rounded shoulder Dreadnought. Good that you're able to do a fix on the Lâg as well. You seem to be a little accident prone with your guitars... Chris On 10 October 2013 19:07, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Welp! As some of you may remember, I was recently bitten by the guitar bug, so I went out and got a Lâg Tramontane T66D, which struck me as a hell of a guitar for the money. And I loved it. Fast-forward two weeks, and . . . well: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192635745/ Seems in my haste to get out the door at the end of my shift the other night, I slung my gig bag over my shoulder without bothering to zip it first. I was fairly heartbroken -- the closest I'd come to tears in years. So, in order to help mend the heartbreak, I started trawling around the local classifieds and Craigslist. And, as luck would have it, I happened upon what seemed like a great deal: a Jasmine S35 (Takamine's budget line) with a brand new set of unopened D'Addario strings, a Snark digital tuner, a Kyser cap, a Stage guitar stand -- all for the whopping total of $50. I'd owned a Jasmine years ago and really liked it, but had to give it to my uncle after a friend of mine tripped over and stepped on the one he'd loaned me at a party. This one, however, I like even more as it has a satin/natural finish: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/10192719793/ So, my heart has mended quite a bit. I love the way it sounds, and after a good setup from the guitar shop, I think I'm going to really love the way it plays. The action is a bit high, but the tone is really nice. As I see it, I got a good deal on some accessories I already wanted, and a damn nice guitar thrown in for free. Tough to beat that, huh? As for my Lâg, I put some Gorilla Glue in the break and clamped it down for a bit. It still plays like new, and even still very good sustain. The repair job wasn't the tidiest, but the fact of the matter is, it's a $200 guitar with a broken headstock. It's not like I was going to be able to get good money out of it, irrespective of the aesthetics of the repair job. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:57:21PM -0600, Tom C wrote: dpreview writes in it's K-5 review: The Pentax K-5's noise reduction does a remarkably good job and is pretty much on par with the best performing APS-C camera in low light that we've tested so far, the Nikon D7000 (not that much of a surprise as both cameras are built around the same sensor technology)... Generally the differences in high ISO performance between the APS-C models of this latest generation of digital SLRs is fairly small. The K-5 uses a slightly more contrasty tone-curve than the Nikon D7000 but in terms of detail the difference between the two cameras is marginal. For whatever it's worth, the one time that I had a chance to compare a K-5 side by side with a D7000 in a low light situation (in the -2EV to 2EV range), the K-5 vastly outperformed the D7000 in every regard. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
Larry, you shoot with a Pentax, so what do YOU know. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:57:21PM -0600, Tom C wrote: dpreview writes in it's K-5 review: The Pentax K-5's noise reduction does a remarkably good job and is pretty much on par with the best performing APS-C camera in low light that we've tested so far, the Nikon D7000 (not that much of a surprise as both cameras are built around the same sensor technology)... Generally the differences in high ISO performance between the APS-C models of this latest generation of digital SLRs is fairly small. The K-5 uses a slightly more contrasty tone-curve than the Nikon D7000 but in terms of detail the difference between the two cameras is marginal. For whatever it's worth, the one time that I had a chance to compare a K-5 side by side with a D7000 in a low light situation (in the -2EV to 2EV range), the K-5 vastly outperformed the D7000 in every regard. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
Larry wrote: For whatever it's worth, the one time that I had a chance to compare a K-5 side by side with a D7000 in a low light situation (in the -2EV to 2EV range), the K-5 vastly outperformed the D7000 in every regard. I'm not here to argue the merits of a K-5 vs. D7000 Larry. Why would I? But was it a scientific comparison or was it swapping cameras and handling it for a few minutes? Too many variables involved to make meaningful judgement calls (including lens) especially if it was just one time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
On Oct 10, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Larry wrote: For whatever it's worth, the one time that I had a chance to compare a K-5 side by side with a D7000 in a low light situation (in the -2EV to 2EV range), the K-5 vastly outperformed the D7000 in every regard. I'm not here to argue the merits of a K-5 vs. D7000 Larry. Why would I? But then you do:-) But was it a scientific comparison or was it swapping cameras and handling it for a few minutes? Too many variables involved to make meaningful judgement calls (including lens) especially if it was just one time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
HDR as a genre?
I just came across a website of a photographer who essentially refers to HDR as a genre (or subject?) of photography (along with City music band, and sports photography: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
I'm not here to argue the merits of a K-5 vs. D7000 Larry. Why would I? But then you do:-) That's BS Paul and you know it. :) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: NASA Humanity Portrait
Every now and then AOL still coughs up an interesting article. This Single Portrait Would Explain Humanity to Aliens -- a project by NASA. http://www.tested.com/science/space/458434-portrait-humanity-was-nearly-sent -titan/?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl10%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D389263 http://tinyurl.com/mu2o27y Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Igor Roshchin wrote: I just came across a website of a photographer who essentially refers to HDR as a genre (or subject?) of photography (along with City music band, and sports photography: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) My eyes! The pain! Make it go away! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On 2013-10-10 16:49, Mark Roberts wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) My eyes! The pain! Make it go away! If you construe the term broadly enough, I guess Utter Crap is also a genre. :) -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 04:59:22PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2013-10-10 16:49, Mark Roberts wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) My eyes! The pain! Make it go away! If you construe the term broadly enough, I guess Utter Crap is also a genre. :) Why not? Rap music is a genre. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 01:55:52PM -0600, Tom C wrote: Larry wrote: For whatever it's worth, the one time that I had a chance to compare a K-5 side by side with a D7000 in a low light situation (in the -2EV to 2EV range), the K-5 vastly outperformed the D7000 in every regard. I'm not here to argue the merits of a K-5 vs. D7000 Larry. Why would I? Because if nobody else were around you'd argue with your own shadow whether the sun was shining. But was it a scientific comparison or was it swapping cameras and handling it for a few minutes? Too many variables involved to make meaningful judgement calls (including lens) especially if it was just one time. It was not a scientific comparison, I was helping a friend learn how to use his new D7000 for photographing blues dancing. I was very excited to have a chance to try it out. I was very tempted to buy one when they came out because it was the first affordable nikon that would work well with my box of nikon mount lenses. We were both using glass that was around f/1.8. It was a very informal comparison, and could have been done a lot more scientifically. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Doug Franklin wrote: If you construe the term broadly enough, I guess Utter Crap is also a genre. :) The battle for Quotation of the year is looking to be fierce in 2013! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Quoting Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: I just came across a website of a photographer who essentially refers to HDR as a genre (or subject?) of photography (along with City music band, and sports photography: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) One or two of those look *almost* realistic, if you can ignore the highly saturated colours. Most, though, are...er, interesting, in the way that a train wreck is interesting - but not something you'd wish on anybody. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
It has become PC to hate HDR, but like all techniques it has value when used with discretion. Your example was appealing to an extent. In truth I found the cross filter star bursts more objectionable than the HDR rendering. Paul via phone On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: If you construe the term broadly enough, I guess Utter Crap is also a genre. :) The battle for Quotation of the year is looking to be fierce in 2013! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Paul Stenquist wrote: It has become PC to hate HDR, but like all techniques it has value when used with discretion. Your example was appealing to an extent. In truth I found the cross filter star bursts more objectionable than the HDR rendering. Funny. Because those stars were solely the result of pointing the 12-24 directly at point light sources at night. No filter used. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Must say my Good Bye's
OK. Now, thanks to Chris, I just GOTTA dial up my Steely Dan channel on Pandora. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Or alternatively: We hear you're leaving, that's ok I thought our little wild time had just begun I guess you kind of scared yourself, you turn and run But if you have a change of heart... Walter don't lose that number etc. On 10 October 2013 18:42, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: You meant to say You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave Chris On 9 October 2013 18:51, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You'll be back, seems like no one ever leaves for good. On 10/9/2013 9:05 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: It's been nice for a while but I must move on. Wish you guys and gals all the best. You truly are some great photographers! Walt -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On 10/10/2013 16:49, Mark Roberts wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: I just came across a website of a photographer who essentially refers to HDR as a genre (or subject?) of photography (along with City music band, and sports photography: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) My eyes! The pain! Make it go away! Ditto ... _except_ , oddly , for the one log cabin that is just before the covered bridge.. that one doesn't look HDR'ed ... 7th photo, on my monitor it is the third one in the second row. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Red Rocket
Very nice, Frank! I think that's an excellent, charming attraction to have in the city. -- Walt On 10/9/2013 6:04 PM, knarf wrote: All Toronto transit vehicles are called red rockets now but originally it was just the old PCC streetcars. Out of service for about 30 years now, they've spruced up one or two and use them for touristie things: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/10/red-rocket.html?m=1 I think they can be chartered, too. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
I don't like any of his images, but I see no harm in letting him call HDR a genre. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I just came across a website of a photographer who essentially refers to HDR as a genre (or subject?) of photography (along with City music band, and sports photography: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
I was thinking that might be the case. Still don't like them:-). Paul via phone On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: It has become PC to hate HDR, but like all techniques it has value when used with discretion. Your example was appealing to an extent. In truth I found the cross filter star bursts more objectionable than the HDR rendering. Funny. Because those stars were solely the result of pointing the 12-24 directly at point light sources at night. No filter used. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
The definition of genre is a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter. Therefore it is not controversial to call it a genre; it is controversial to call it a satisfying one, thanks to those who commit visual attrocities in its name. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I was thinking that might be the case. Still don't like them:-). Paul via phone On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: It has become PC to hate HDR, but like all techniques it has value when used with discretion. Your example was appealing to an extent. In truth I found the cross filter star bursts more objectionable than the HDR rendering. Funny. Because those stars were solely the result of pointing the 12-24 directly at point light sources at night. No filter used. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I don't like any of his images, but I see no harm in letting him call HDR a genre. You're spoiling our fun here, Dan! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On 10 Oct 2013, at 22:53, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I don't like any of his images, but I see no harm in letting him call HDR a genre. You're spoiling our fun here, Dan! I would have him horse-whipped on the steps of his club. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
I've seen it done two ways. The first is very pleasant. Just a small amount of processing can open up shadows nicely. But the second is quite offensive. Everything has a white outline. Yuk. So sterile and mechanical. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Must say my Good Bye's
We must be patient with Walt. His six-stringed affair will not last forever. Sooner or later he will return and prove his faithfulness. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
I don't hate these. In fact, I quite like some of them. They have a painterly look. Many resemble painted postcard pics of yesteryear. The covered bridge is the only really awful one. But I'm not PC, so it's okay for me to like HDR pics. Paul On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 04:59:22PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2013-10-10 16:49, Mark Roberts wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) My eyes! The pain! Make it go away! If you construe the term broadly enough, I guess Utter Crap is also a genre. :) Why not? Rap music is a genre. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On Oct 10, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: I've seen it done two ways. The first is very pleasant. Just a small amount of processing can open up shadows nicely. But the second is quite offensive. Everything has a white outline. Yuk. So sterile and mechanical. I don't see a white outline on any of these, although there are some that display a tonality I don't like. But then, I'm old, and my eyes are probably not as good as yours. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Ann Sanfedele wrote: On 10/10/2013 16:49, Mark Roberts wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: I just came across a website of a photographer who essentially refers to HDR as a genre (or subject?) of photography (along with City music band, and sports photography: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) My eyes! The pain! Make it go away! Ditto ... _except_ , oddly , for the one log cabin that is just before the covered bridge.. that one doesn't look HDR'ed ... 7th photo, on my monitor it is the third one in the second row. The last one in the bottom row (large rock) has halos so huge they look bad in the *thumbnail*! There are a couple that are tolerable, but most look the kind of visions that would make you give up LSD. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:58:55PM +0100, Bob W wrote: On 10 Oct 2013, at 22:53, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I don't like any of his images, but I see no harm in letting him call HDR a genre. You're spoiling our fun here, Dan! I would have him horse-whipped on the steps of his club. It seems that there is nothing that unites a group more than the opportunity to feel superior over someone else. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Oh? Are we hearing a tid bit from your past? V-e-r-y interesting. ;-) Actually, some of the photos don't look too bad to me. But others look awful, with ghosting around the edges of things. I also think HDR could easily be called a genre, regardless of subject matter. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 10/10/2013 3:12:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes: There are a couple that are tolerable, but most look the kind of visions that would make you give up LSD. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Collin's old too, Paul :-) ann On 10/10/2013 18:08, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Oct 10, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: I've seen it done two ways. The first is very pleasant. Just a small amount of processing can open up shadows nicely. But the second is quite offensive. Everything has a white outline. Yuk. So sterile and mechanical. I don't see a white outline on any of these, although there are some that display a tonality I don't like. But then, I'm old, and my eyes are probably not as good as yours. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Must say my Good Bye's
Sorry, Collin -- you guys can't get rid of me that easily. Walt Hamler is the one leaving the group. I'm still around, although very intermittent in my posting. -- Walt G. On 10/10/2013 5:01 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: We must be patient with Walt. His six-stringed affair will not last forever. Sooner or later he will return and prove his faithfulness. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: There are a couple that are tolerable, but most look the kind of visions that would make you give up LSD. The LSD comment reminded me of an anomaly I ran across earlier this week: A YouTube comment that actually made sense. It described this video by Kerala Tourism with the tagline: Kerala: Your LSD fever dream. http://youtu.be/axHn7KDxM8U You WILL be entertained. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On 10/10/2013 5:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:58:55PM +0100, Bob W wrote: On 10 Oct 2013, at 22:53, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I don't like any of his images, but I see no harm in letting him call HDR a genre. You're spoiling our fun here, Dan! I would have him horse-whipped on the steps of his club. It seems that there is nothing that unites a group more than the opportunity to feel superior over someone else. I always suspected that was the reason I was so readily accepted into the fold. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:58:55PM +0100, Bob W wrote: On 10 Oct 2013, at 22:53, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I don't like any of his images, but I see no harm in letting him call HDR a genre. You're spoiling our fun here, Dan! I would have him horse-whipped on the steps of his club. It seems that there is nothing that unites a group more than the opportunity to feel superior over someone else. You mean it's not just the appeal of horse whipping? -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On 10/10/2013 18:05, Paul Stenquist wrote: ... Many resemble painted postcard pics of yesteryear. I think that was definitely true of the first one, actually - postcards from the so-called linen era...which make those buildings look like something from the 30's as well. though I really dislike 90% of HDR'ed photos. The Covered bridge certainly was the most offensive - but not by a large margin ann The covered bridge is the only really awful one. But I'm not PC, so it's okay for me to like HDR pics. Paul On Oct 10, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 04:59:22PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2013-10-10 16:49, Mark Roberts wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: http://blueblockphotography.com/galleries/hdr-photos/ I thought some PDMLers will be sho... err. amused :-) My eyes! The pain! Make it go away! If you construe the term broadly enough, I guess Utter Crap is also a genre. :) Why not? Rap music is a genre. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Then maybe he's imagining the white line:-) Paul via phone On Oct 10, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Collin's old too, Paul :-) ann On 10/10/2013 18:08, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Oct 10, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: I've seen it done two ways. The first is very pleasant. Just a small amount of processing can open up shadows nicely. But the second is quite offensive. Everything has a white outline. Yuk. So sterile and mechanical. I don't see a white outline on any of these, although there are some that display a tonality I don't like. But then, I'm old, and my eyes are probably not as good as yours. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Look Ma, No Hands
On 10 Oct 2013, at 04:31, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe my favourite of the series so far: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/10/look-ma-no-hands.html?m=1 I don't have enough years left to mend the bones it would break to learn how to do that sort of thing... G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: wifi live view
I don't know much about the scatological metrics, but the Olympus E-M1 has this ability to wirelessly shunt video while recording. G On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It just occured to me that if the K-3 has wifi live view, not just preview, and it works with video camera mode, that could be a metric shit-ton of awesome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 06:20:56PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:58:55PM +0100, Bob W wrote: On 10 Oct 2013, at 22:53, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I don't like any of his images, but I see no harm in letting him call HDR a genre. You're spoiling our fun here, Dan! I would have him horse-whipped on the steps of his club. It seems that there is nothing that unites a group more than the opportunity to feel superior over someone else. You mean it's not just the appeal of horse whipping? Not unless I'm replying to the *other* email list. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Why I love the PDML
For all its faults, shortcomings, quirks, flamewars and other idiosyncrasies, the PDML is still the best. I just took a look at the DP Review Pentax forum and there's a thread there about features people want on the *replacement* for the K3. Sometimes I despair for humanity. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I love the PDML
Surely, you aren't surprised? I expected that particular feature war to start as soon as the official specs leaked. Many Pentaxians must be part dove. Yonnie On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: For all its faults, shortcomings, quirks, flamewars and other idiosyncrasies, the PDML is still the best. I just took a look at the DP Review Pentax forum and there's a thread there about features people want on the *replacement* for the K3. Sometimes I despair for humanity. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 097 - GDG
On 10/9/2013 9:44 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A new project beckons ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10169937905/lightbox thanks for looking. comments always appreciated. Godfrey - www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/ Beautiful image - great tonality and feel, excellent composition. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I love the PDML
Ouch! That's truly weird. I'm really looking forward to the k-3. Had planned to wait but just wrapped some big jobs, so I figured I ought to ante up now. Thinking I might have gotten one or two more good frames of that heron in flight with better autofocus, wondering if I'll alter my technique given more focus points. Should be fun. Paul via phone On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: For all its faults, shortcomings, quirks, flamewars and other idiosyncrasies, the PDML is still the best. I just took a look at the DP Review Pentax forum and there's a thread there about features people want on the *replacement* for the K3. Sometimes I despair for humanity. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
Anomaly? Greatest Understatement Ever. You're right though: entertaining. The guy with the huge phallus headgear was my personal spit-take moment. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: There are a couple that are tolerable, but most look the kind of visions that would make you give up LSD. The LSD comment reminded me of an anomaly I ran across earlier this week: A YouTube comment that actually made sense. It described this video by Kerala Tourism with the tagline: Kerala: Your LSD fever dream. http://youtu.be/axHn7KDxM8U You WILL be entertained. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Mid-30s Ford V-8
On display at our local Historical Society's Applefest last weekend...unfortunately, the owner wasn't around to close the hood for me. Think it's a 1935... http://studio1941.com/applefest/index.html 3947 printed as a 13x19 on Red River Polar Pearl Metallic paper. K-5, Tamron 18-200mm -p -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I love the PDML
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 07:10:56PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: For all its faults, shortcomings, quirks, flamewars and other idiosyncrasies, the PDML is still the best. I just took a look at the DP Review Pentax forum and there's a thread there about features people want on the *replacement* for the K3. Sometimes I despair for humanity. Shortly after buying my K100 I started hanging out on the DPR pentax forum. There were maybe half a dozen clueful photographers on it, swarms of people who thought they were clueful photographers because they had figured out how to limit depth of field using a wide aperture, and a constant influx of people who were in the process of learning what an aperture was. And in relation to the first two lines: s/For/Because of/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I seem to have stepped into an alternate universe...
On 10/10/2013 8:15 AM, Tom C wrote: From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com Pentax has been on it's way out since I was selling cameras 30 years ago. They went from being an industry leader to a wannabe in one generation of cameras. All of a sudden, they have something to market that, in many ways, leapfrogs the competition rather than being two steps behind with their best. There is no sarcasm in looking at what they have come up with here and saying they have more on the ball now than they have had for nearly three decades. It seems to have worked out for Pentax, finally. bill I agree with much of what you say, but leapfrogs??? In some respects yes. Nikon has nothing that specs out to the K3 for example. It's still a 24MP camera that's a year and a half to two years late. That's one metric. I'm sure you know there is more to cameras than pixel count. It would have been nice if Hoya had done more with the brand in the five years or so they had it, but it is what it is. It's amazing that 3 months ago the K-5/K-5II fulfilled everyone's needs and 'why would one want more resolution?', and now it's goo-goo ga-ga over the K-3. I've never said i didn't want a higher res sensor, though whether I need it is another story. What I need is an AF system that works reliably in the studio. Pentax fell down, and fell down badly with the K5 in this regard. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HDR as a genre?
One of my most interesting LSD moments came while driving on chicago's dan Ryan expressway. The car remained stationery and the road rushed by below it. Paul via phone On Oct 10, 2013, at 7:32 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Anomaly? Greatest Understatement Ever. You're right though: entertaining. The guy with the huge phallus headgear was my personal spit-take moment. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: There are a couple that are tolerable, but most look the kind of visions that would make you give up LSD. The LSD comment reminded me of an anomaly I ran across earlier this week: A YouTube comment that actually made sense. It described this video by Kerala Tourism with the tagline: Kerala: Your LSD fever dream. http://youtu.be/axHn7KDxM8U You WILL be entertained. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why I love the PDML
On 10/10/2013 5:10 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: For all its faults, shortcomings, quirks, flamewars and other idiosyncrasies, the PDML is still the best. I just took a look at the DP Review Pentax forum and there's a thread there about features people want on the *replacement* for the K3. Sometimes I despair for humanity. Yeah, Joe Tainter started it I believe. They are already whining about this and that, apparently the WiFi solution sucks toad bottoms. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Mid-30s Ford V-8
#2 is the most appealing of these three to my eye. Nice forms and tones. G On Oct 10, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote: On display at our local Historical Society's Applefest last weekend...unfortunately, the owner wasn't around to close the hood for me. Think it's a 1935... http://studio1941.com/applefest/index.html 3947 printed as a 13x19 on Red River Polar Pearl Metallic paper. K-5, Tamron 18-200mm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
