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Re: test 2

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Hotmail is Outlook. It wasn’t even Microsoft when I got my hotmail email 
address in 1995, it was for cool and hip travellers to use E:mail in 
’inter-net’ cafés in obscure countries where electricity was provided once a 
week by a donkey going round and round in circles.

Anyway, for the sake of simplicity I have just set up an iCloud alias, with 
which I have just subscribed, and I will shortly be unsubscribing my 
pdm...@hotmail.com address and consigning it to the dustbin of history.

And now that we’ve left the EU we don’t even have the donkey anymore, we had to 
give it back.

> On 12 Dec 2022, at 22:15, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Outlook?  you use outlook? .. well no wonder..
> ann
> 
>> On 12/12/2022 1:57 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> At least half of the messages I get from the PDML go into my junk folder, 
>> even though I tell Outlook it’s not junk.
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Re: test 2

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At least half of the messages I get from the PDML go into my junk folder, even 
though I tell Outlook it’s not junk.

> On 12 Dec 2022, at 18:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Yes. It's very odd that sometimes when I post, from either account, nothing 
> comes through from the server. And yet tests show that both of my accounts 
> are subscribed and active. 
> 
> Gremlins in the 'net…  LOL! 
> 
> G
> 
> 
>> On Dec 12, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> Both of them, it would seem.  Or at least both have been given permission to 
>> post.
>> 
 On Dec 12, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> checking # 2 to see which account is subscribed
>>> 
>>> G
>> 
>> 

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Re: Happy birthday Ann!

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I hope they’ve got a good pension plan, and dental insurance. But maybe they’re 
199 already.

> On 12 Dec 2022, at 16:05, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> They say the first person who will live to 200 is already alive!
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 12-Dec-22 04:55 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>> That's my plan as well. My grandfather lived to 90 and my father is 
>> currently 96 not out, so just maybe there is a chance.
>>  
 On 12/12/2022 13:26 ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Glad to see closed captions so I could get the info without the pain in
>>> my ears :-) it's just as awful as our Happy birthday song.
>>> 
>>> but I appreciate the thought and yes, I shall live to 100
>>> 
>>> xx,
>>> ann
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Re: Happy birthday Ann!

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Indeed

> On 10 Dec 2022, at 16:03, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Sto lat.
> 
>> On 10/12/2022 13:18 Comcast  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A very happy birthday to Ann, that most charming lady who has done more than 
>> anyone to keep this list alive and lively!
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: Several photo galleries and a few videos from my october 2022 safari to Botswana

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Looks like a fabulous trip - I’d love to go there. Great photos.

> On 9 Dec 2022, at 15:42, li...@dfsee.com wrote:
> 
> Hi all,,
> 
> As some of you may know, I have been on a two week photo-safari to Botswana, 
> the Kalahari desert and Okavango Delta in October 2022.
> 
> It was an exhausting but VERY rewarding trip, with over 12000 images and a 
> few hours of video resulting from that.
> About 98 percent was shot with just the K3 III and the DFA 150-450mm.
> 
> I finished an overview webpage today that has a photo-gallery and a short 
> video for each of the five visited areas, as well as a ‘favourites’ gallery 
> that has my current 50 favourite images on display.
> 
> 
> It is located at:
> 
>   https://www.dfsee.com/videos/botswana.php
> 
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Regards, JvW 
> 
> 
> =
> Jan van Wijk; author of DFsee;  https://www.dfsee.com
> 
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Re: OT: The Treasure of His Youth: The Photographs of Paolo Di Paolo.

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Thanks, that’s very interesting. I’ll look out for the film and for Di Paolo’s 
photographs. 

I have recently become very interested in the so-called neo-realist 
photographers, who I think are not as well-known as they should be.

Coincidentally, a favourite film of the Italian neo-realist filmmakers has 
recently been revived - Ferrania P30. I sent 5 rolls to be processed yesterday 
and I’m keen to see what it looks like when it comes back.

> On 9 Dec 2022, at 18:23, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
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Re: December PUG is up

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Thanks! Interesting how so many of them make pairs. 

I like ‘Leaf’ by Reinhard very much. The almost complementary colours of the 
leaf and tiles in that beautiful light and shade, with the shape of the leaf 
almost echoing that of the tile pattern, and of course the beautiful tiles 
themselves, work very well in my view.

B


> On 5 Dec 2022, at 10:24, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Enjoy the new gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> First cab off the rank in 2023 is 'Bridges'
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines are here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> https://500px.com/supera1000
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Re: Slice of Americana

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We stayed in Statesville for the week or so we were there. 

That’s an impressive bit of detective work- you could be right about Winston 
Salem, I may have got the places confused. My overriding memory is that the 
place seemed deserted and we jaywalked a lot, since it was a new experience for 
us (no such thing over here). 

Also it was very hard to get a drink in Statesville.

> On 1 Dec 2022, at 20:31, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Actually, the one place in North Carolina I *KNOW* it is NOT is Raleigh, 
> because I live there and don't recognize it. 
> 
> Clues I can see in the image:
> • Four track crossing in Downtown area
> • Wachovia Bank building with parking deck
> • Chest??? (Chestnut st?), Church St,  street (Main? or Salem?) & Liberty 
> St - all running parallel to the tracks.
> 
> My first impression was High Point, NC, and as Ann noted the others look like 
> they are from the Statesville, NC area.
> 
> Also not Durham, because I know that's not the Wachovia Bank building that 
> was there plus not the right railroad crossing & combination of streets.
> 
> ... and I did a lot more Google map exploration on the two streets I COULD 
> name for sure and ...
> 
> It's Winston Salem, intersection of 4th St E & N Chestnut st, looking west 
> along 4th St E.; right next to the RJ Reynolds tobacco factory.
> 
> 36.09882411283094, -80.24183462127905
> 
> The next three cross streets to the west after N Chestnut are N Church St, N 
> Main St & N Liberty st.
> 
> The old Wachovia Bank building has been torn down and replaced by the Forsyth 
> County Public Safety Center & three of the four tracks have been removed.
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Re: Gorilla

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Yes, I have an EFH too, although I haven’t used it yet. I plan to try it with a 
Copipod holding the camera and tubes and will use something to block out 
whatever extraneous light could get in. Will be interested to see your setup.

B

> On 1 Dec 2022, at 19:40, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I have the BEOON as well .. it's useful for quickies, but to do a full roll 
> of film, or a lot of slides, it isn't convenient or as consistent as other 
> jigs. 
> 
> The Essential Film Holder negative carrier, by Andrew Clifforth, is what I've 
> been using for some months now. It's a simple jig, not too expensive, and he 
> can supply a variety of masks for 35mm strips, mounted slides, and various 
> 120 formats. Work with any 2x2 inch mounted slides. The website is here: 
> https://clifforth.co.uk/index2.html
> 
> This and a thin flourescent or LED based light box works great with my copy 
> stand and whatever camera/macro lens setup I need for a format. 
> 
> Since I setup and do my scanning in my office, I minimize ambient light by 
> shutting the blinds and turning off all but my desk lamp at a low setting. 
> I've also done a simple black paper shield surrounding the camera and film 
> stage but haven't found it particularly necessary. The hardest stuff I have 
> to copy are my Polaroids … the ultra-glossy print surface is hellish with 
> respect to reflections and keeping it flat!
> 
> I'm going to set up and do some scanning later today (it's rainy out, I will 
> be home all afternoon it seems). I'll photograph the setup with the EFH in a 
> couple of configurations and post some photos.
> 
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Re: Gorilla

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Thanks Godfrey. 

One thing I’m doing differently from my first attempts is to use the tubes and 
slide holder instead of the Leitz Beoon which I originally used. The reason for 
this is to prevent unwanted light altering the colour balance - I’m too lazy to 
do it in the dark! The Beoon of course handles several formats.

My current method doesn’t handle unmounted slides and negatives. I’m not aware 
of a film strip holder that will fit the Pentax slide holders I have, they’re 
all too thick, so I may need to experiment with butchering a plastic slide 
mount, or I may have to close the curtains and switch the lights off.

> On 1 Dec 2022, at 01:11, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Great set of photos, Bob! 
> 
> Yes, I have discontinued using film and flatbed scanners for the most part, 
> do almost all my negative and transparency scanning using a copy camera setup 
> now … similar to yours in some ways, but a different camera and lens mix. *
> 
> It's an easy setup to master if you have a few basic pieces so I agree: 
> anyone wanting to do film to digital capture nowadays and who already has an 
> interchangeable lens camera should try the copy camera approach first, before 
> spending money on any kind of scanner.
> 
> G
> 
> * My setup varies depending upon what format and film type I'm capturing. I 
> work with formats from Minox 8x11 to 6x9cm so I need a range of different 
> film holders and lenses.
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Re: Organizing photo archives (was Re: Old Shutterbug articles)

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Divide and conquer! 

I retired a couple of years ago with the same intentions. After a few 
half-hearted first attempts then putting everything in a cupboard for 18 
months, I now have a process I’m fairly happy with. 

Once you’re happy with your set-up you’ll probably be able to raw scan each 
carousel in a couple of hours at most. Then when you’ve done the donkey work 
you can concentrate on editing the best images.

> On 1 Dec 2022, at 01:28, Rick Womer wrote:
> 
> Just looking around the room, I have 22 loose-leaf notebooks filled with 
> slide pages, and 9 140-slide carousels.
> 
> I always told myself I’d do something about them when I retired… but in a 
> year and a half nothing has happened yet.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
>>> Of course before I can do any scanning I'm going to need to get a scanner. 
>>> While
>>> the high-end Epson 800 looks nice, it costs a lot more than the 600. It 
>>> also gets
>>> mixed reviews.  I haven't started looking around seriously yet, though - 
>>> I'll get
>>> the digital/digitised stuff sorted out first before opening that can of 
>>> worms.
>> 
>> If I was more ambitious, I'd buy a scanner and hire a high school or college 
>> student to scan my negatives, and other people's as well.
>> 
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Re: Slice of Americana

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Thanks, and thanks to every who looked. I think that was in Raleigh.

> On 1 Dec 2022, at 01:13, John Sessoms  wrote:
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> It was a while back if "3 HAMBURGERS & 3 HOTDOGS" were $5.
> 
> Do you remember where the image of "4 TRACKS" was taken?
> 
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Re: Gorilla

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I wrote a longish reply yesterday to Larry and John in Stan’s thread about 
scanning, but the server told me to f*ck off even though the only vaguely HTMLy 
stuff was John and Larry’s email addresses, which the server itself had sent 
me! Won’t eat its own dog food.

Anyway, these photos illustrate what I was saying about how I’m now ‘scanning’.

The pictures were shot in 1998/9 on Kodachrome, I can’t remember which zoo it 
was. Almost certainly shot with a Pentax LX, Pentax-A 400mm f5.6 lens and 
possibly a 1.4X extender.

I digitised them and a bunch of others yesterday using a LUMIX GX8 attached via 
a Novoflex MFT/PENT adapter to a Pentax-M 50mm f4 macro. This was attached with 
a 49mm reversing adapter to a Pentax auto extension tube #3 which in turn was 
attached to a slide holder 1X K. This gives a 1:1 reproduction ratio which 
means there is very little cropping needed to make the 4/3rds image fit the 
original 35mm format. With a full frame body it would be even easier, but my 
only full frame digital camera only does black and white. The light source was 
a Kaiser slimlite plano. I used focus peaking, lowest ISO available, f/8 and 
Aperture priority.

The point of all this is that I find the whole process and outputs much better, 
quicker and easier than a scanner. I used to have a Nikon LS1000 (?) but the 
process was awful and the results nowhere near as good as I’m getting now. So 
my recommendation to anyone thinking of getting a scanner is, try this first, 
it really is surprisingly good and simple.

> < https://adobe.ly/3gMZ5V7  >
> 
> Will comment if the server lets this through.
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< https://adobe.ly/3gMZ5V7  >

Will comment if the server lets this through.


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Fuck the PDML server

[Bob Pdml]

It took me four tries to get it to accept my post with a link, and it has now 
rejected three attempts to reply to ann. Well, fuck it, life’s too short.

OT, by the way.

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Re: Slice of Americana

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Hoo-bloody-ray, after several bounces it got through.

So, as I was saying, this is a small gallery from a trip to NC in 1997, my 
first of only two visits to the US. Shot on LX or MX, Pentax lenses, wrong 
hood. Ektachrome converted to b in LR.

I happened to pick these at random earlier today when trying out digitisation 
of slides using a Pentax helicoidal slide holder and auto extension tubes with 
a 30mm micro-4/3rds macro lens and LUMIX GX8.

> On 27 Nov 2022, at 20:00, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> < https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/b1e6f766330e449096314673e45b6b67 
> <https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/b1e6f766330e449096314673e45b6b67> >
> 
> If this gets through I’ll comment, but it keeps getting bounced.
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Slice of Americana

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< https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/b1e6f766330e449096314673e45b6b67 
 >

If this gets through I’ll comment, but it keeps getting bounced.

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Re: Erwitt-style sequence

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Amazing. You’re right, both in a reply and as a new email. Thank you.

> On 25 Nov 2022, at 20:15, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Let’s see…
> 
>>> On 25 Nov 2022, at 20:04, John Francis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 11:12:11AM +, Bob Pdml wrote:
>>> Hoping the PDML will accept this link to a short sequence I shot last week. 
>>> Please remove spaces from the link. I put them there because the PDML 
>>> always rejects posts I send which contain a link. No idea why.
>>> 
>>> https ://  adobe  .ly  /3ALD4Nb 
>> 
>> Have you tried enclosing the link in angle brackets?  That fixes some 
>> problems.
>> 
>> 
>> i.e.
>> 
>>  <https://adobe.ly/3ALD4Nb>
>> 
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Not angles but angels…

[Bob Pdml]

< https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/a2be9a31f0c74b91881533f880e5f426 
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Let’s see if John’s right.

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Re: Erwitt-style sequence

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Let’s see…

> On 25 Nov 2022, at 20:04, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 11:12:11AM +0000, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> Hoping the PDML will accept this link to a short sequence I shot last week. 
>> Please remove spaces from the link. I put them there because the PDML always 
>> rejects posts I send which contain a link. No idea why.
>> 
>> https ://  adobe  .ly  /3ALD4Nb 
> 
> Have you tried enclosing the link in angle brackets?  That fixes some 
> problems.
> 
> 
> i.e.
> 
>   <https://adobe.ly/3ALD4Nb>
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Re: experiment in posting BW's Erwiitt link

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It uses Outlook servers even if you don’t have outlook installed as a client.



> On 25 Nov 2022, at 19:09, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I don't think Outlook is required for Hotmail ... at least it wasn't 
> when I used a Hotmail account.
> 
>> On 11/25/2022 11:34 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> Thanks. I suspect it’s not a question of stateside or elsewhere as I notice 
>> that Godfrey has a similar problem.
>> iOS Mail wraps links in a preview. I suspect it formats all mail in a way 
>> that the PDML server dislikes as I often get replies rejected for exceeding 
>> the maximum size the server likes, even though they are clearly well under 
>> the maximum if they were plain text.
>> I don’t know of a way to change iOS Mail settings to send in plain text.
>> I use a hotmail account so I could probably try sending something directly 
>> from Outlook, but it’s not the answer to this issue as I don’t want to use 
>> Outlook.
>>>> On 25 Nov 2022, at 15:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> wonder if server will take it if sent from stateside..
>>> here is BW's link with no blanks
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Re: experiment in posting BW's Erwiitt link

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I can change the font in the client easily enough but that doesn’t necessarily 
change the format of the sent mail to plain text, that would be a different 
setting. Apple hides these things, probably to protect its users from 
themselves, and its help desk from its users. In addition, Outlook now wraps 
all sorts of crap around incoming links that make life more painful than it has 
to be, in order to protect idiots from bad people. Since I retired I can’t be 
bothered chasing IT problems around, especially when at least three separate 
components are involved, iOS Mail, Outlook and the PDML.

An earlier reply to you was rejected, claiming that I had exceeded the message 
size limit. This was either because I had omitted to remove the links in your 
signature, or because I had playfully changed the font of some words to show 
that it can be done.

It’s only the PDML that behaves like this so it’s really not that important to 
me if I can’t send links easily. It’s annoying but I’m not going to go chasing 
bugs for hours to try and resolve it.

> On 25 Nov 2022, at 17:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Weird - does that mean you cant change the font in your mail server?  Tis 
> may sound crazy but if you chose a fixed width "typewriter" font to send mail 
> to PDML
> I wonder if that would work.
> 
> In Thunderbird you can change fonts in the body text on an individual email 
> and I receive all mail in plain text.. per my settings. But every one of you 
> on list
> are all more tech astute than I am in this current cyber world.
> 
> ann
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Re: experiment in posting BW's Erwiitt link

[Bob Pdml]

Thanks. I suspect it’s not a question of stateside or elsewhere as I notice 
that Godfrey has a similar problem. 

iOS Mail wraps links in a preview. I suspect it formats all mail in a way that 
the PDML server dislikes as I often get replies rejected for exceeding the 
maximum size the server likes, even though they are clearly well under the 
maximum if they were plain text.

I don’t know of a way to change iOS Mail settings to send in plain text. 

I use a hotmail account so I could probably try sending something directly from 
Outlook, but it’s not the answer to this issue as I don’t want to use Outlook.

> On 25 Nov 2022, at 15:48, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> wonder if server will take it if sent from stateside..
> here is BW's link with no blanks
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Re: Erwitt-style sequence

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Great, thanks.

> On 25 Nov 2022, at 14:12, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Yup
> and  yes very Erwittian sequence :-)
> 
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Re: Erwitt-style sequence

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Did the link work when you’d removed the spaces?


> On 25 Nov 2022, at 13:05, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Made me look :-)
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 11/25/2022 6:12 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> Hoping the PDML will accept this link to a short sequence I shot last week. 
>> Please remove spaces from the link. I put them there because the PDML always 
>> rejects posts I send which contain a link. No idea why.
>> 
>> https ://  adobe  .ly  /3ALD4Nb
>> 
>> MX, M 120mm f2.8. Y1 filter. Ilford FP4+
>> 
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Erwitt-style sequence

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Hoping the PDML will accept this link to a short sequence I shot last week. 
Please remove spaces from the link. I put them there because the PDML always 
rejects posts I send which contain a link. No idea why.

https ://  adobe  .ly  /3ALD4Nb 

MX, M 120mm f2.8. Y1 filter. Ilford FP4+


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Re: Apparently....

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Probably makes a nice change from someone trying to sell you something.

Unless it was toothpaste.


> On 19 Nov 2022, at 23:26, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Maybe someone was trying to tell me something.  Should I change my 
> toothpaste?
> 
>> On 19/11/2022 11:21 Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Some guys get all the luck…
>> 
>>>> On 19 Nov 2022, at 05:23, mike wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was unsubscribed.
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Re: Apparently....

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Some guys get all the luck…

> On 19 Nov 2022, at 05:23, mike wilson  wrote:
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> 
> I was unsubscribed. 
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Re: Downtown Minneapolis - Loring Park

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> On 19 Nov 2022, at 01:41, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2022, at 5:30 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Rick - I was going to ask that, but I thought you were walking in the park 
>> while she was in her business meeting .. :-)
>> Nice that she puts up with ' walk ahead of me dear, I want to get a person 
>> in the frame for scale, color, etc...'
> 
> It’s better than “walk ahead of me dear, there might be landmines”.

One of the few situations I can think of where it would be useful to be a 
Mormon.


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Re: What is this and why is it so special

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No

> On 10 Nov 2022, at 14:39, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
> That would an M39 mount, wouldn’t it?
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Re: November PUG is up

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Very interesting to see how different people treat the theme. I agree with ann 
with this choice of the two photographs. The composition, light and colour in 
Brian’s are outstanding in my opinion. It seems barbaric to have destroyed a 
structure like that.

> On 8 Nov 2022, at 01:56, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> such a small gallery this month .. but nice gallery.  Paul's art museum 
> jumped out at me from the index page.
> 
> Brian - sorry you lost that view.. its lovely.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> On 11/5/2022 5:07 AM, Brian W wrote:
>> G'day all
>> 
>> Enjoy the new gallery here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

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Re: What is this and why is it so special

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1958/59 Pentax S with probably its original Takumar 55/2.2 lens. There’s a 
write-up and a couple of reviews on Pentaxforums.

> On 9 Nov 2022, at 17:50, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
> 
> https://shopgoodwill.com/item/154526031
> 
> I’m guessing the collectors will know.
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Re: OT Geso PAEC

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Probably taken by marauding African swallows, who bury them at the foot of palm 
trees as an over-winter supply. It’s quite common here to see flights of 
African swallows circling over the pier at dusk in large murmurations, laden 
with overripe carved pumpkins, sometimes one in each foot.


> 
>> On 11/2/2022 5:12 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> I planned on taking my home grown pumpkins to PAEC ( the horse farm we used
>> to board at) today so the animals could have a treat but lo and behold
>> someone relieved me of said fruits and my steps are now bare.
>> 
>> to
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Re: OT: For the list members in the UK

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> On 9 Sep 2022, at 16:42, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>>> Not if British pubs start charging 23 pounds a pint
>>> 
>> 
>> Two possible responses:
>> That would reduce one and increase the other.
>> Have you been to London recently?
>> 
> 
> Not since 1975 ( I flew Freddie BTW)
> 

It was about 1/4- then, I think. That’s 1s and 4d, not a farthing!

Incidentally one of the papers pointed out that we will once again start having 
notes and coins with different sovereigns on, which we haven’t had since 
decimalisation in 1974. So people younger than about 50 haven’t seen 
mixed-sovereign currency before - something I’d never thought about. When I 
were a lad we had coins in our pockets with the head of Victoria on.

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Re: September PUG is up - Again....

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Either way, if it’s good enough for a cormorant, it’s good enough for us.

> On 8 Sep 2022, at 21:41, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> According to Wikipedia:
> 
> "A jetty is a structure that projects from land out into water. A jetty may 
> serve as a breakwater, as a walkway, or both;"
> 
> So, a pier COULD BE a jetty, but it doesn't have to be.
> 
> Plus this is PDML, so I don't really expect strict adherence to matters of 
> proper form. It don't even have to be close enough for government work IYKWIM.
> 
>> On 9/8/2022 3:32 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> I didn't see (either) Paul ask about a pier vs a jetty  but I had been 
>> bothered by that as well..
>> which is partly why I gave up trying to find a Pentax taken shot for this 
>> month.. and
>> the one shot I had (that would have been a repeat PUG submission ) was only 
>> a pier... ;-)
>> ann
>>> On 9/8/2022 1:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>> With Ralf's image, that makes 14, a rather respectable gallery.
>>> 
>>> To answer Paul's question, no, a pier is not a jetty.  Still, his Avila
>>> Pier is my favorite image of the month.  Strong perspective, nice patterns
>>> and textures, and a definite mood.  I also really like Misty, by Patrick
>>> Nelson;  a fine, moody, minimalist image.  I think the long light pole,
>>> jutting out from the main object of attention, really makes this shot
>>> special.
>>> 
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Re: September PUG is up

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Thank you, ann. Because it goes through Microsoft’s Outlook servers I think it 
mangles the links to protect us from evil, and the rusty barbed wire they put 
on takes the messages over the 10kb PDML limit. As I believe they used to say 
in Vietnam, ‘to protect the village we have to destroy it’.

I might have to unsubscribe and resubscribe from a service which sees things 
more simply.


> On 6 Sep 2022, at 22:06, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Har! I believe is the appropriate term.
> 
>> On 06/09/2022 22:01 ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Lets see if it will take it coming from me...
>> 

>> 
>>> On 9/6/2022 4:38 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>>> Thanks Ann. My first PUG for about twenty years! I’ve been enjoying 
>>> enormously shooting black and white, both digital and film, and also 
>>> rediscovering my old MX and some newly-acquired M lenses, which are real 
>>> gems.
>>> 
>>> If the PDML would stop rejecting my emails which contain links I would post 
>>> a link to the Lightroom gallery I have been putting stuff in - quite a lot 
>>> added since I sent you the link a couple of weeks ago.
>>> 
>>> Lightroom dot adobe dot com slash shares slash 
>>> 47c8d6369f8c4ec784cb1388e95fe3ef
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Sep 2022, at 13:11, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> […]
>>>> 
>>>> My favorites are Bob W's pier, Paul Sorenson's pier and Patricks "Misty" - 
>>>> which is almost a BW.. I love
>>>> foggy photos and the painterly look.
>>>> 
>>>> ann - waiting to see what Ralf did :-)
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: September PUG is up

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I reuse a Lightroom album, so you will have seen different pictures at the same 
link.

> On 6 Sep 2022, at 22:10, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 06.09.22 um 22:38 schrieb Bob Pdml:
> 
>> If the PDML would stop rejecting my emails which contain links I would post 
>> a link to the Lightroom gallery I have been putting stuff in - quite a lot 
>> added since I sent you the link a couple of weeks ago.
>> 
>> Lightroom dot adobe dot com slash shares slash 
>> 47c8d6369f8c4ec784cb1388e95fe3ef
> 
> What a nice collection. My Firefox seems to remember the link. Have you
> posted it before?
> 
> Ralf
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Re: September PUG is up

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Thanks Ann. My first PUG for about twenty years! I’ve been enjoying enormously 
shooting black and white, both digital and film, and also rediscovering my old 
MX and some newly-acquired M lenses, which are real gems.

If the PDML would stop rejecting my emails which contain links I would post a 
link to the Lightroom gallery I have been putting stuff in - quite a lot added 
since I sent you the link a couple of weeks ago.

Lightroom dot adobe dot com slash shares slash 47c8d6369f8c4ec784cb1388e95fe3ef

B

> On 6 Sep 2022, at 13:11, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> […]
> 
> My favorites are Bob W's pier, Paul Sorenson's pier and Patricks "Misty" - 
> which is almost a BW.. I love
> foggy photos and the painterly look.
> 
> ann - waiting to see what Ralf did :-)
> 
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Re: Strange thing

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Hi Godfrey,

I hope this gets through to PDML. 

I’ll send you a picture separately, but I found some photos online of other 
examples of the M 120/2.8 and they all have the same rear end as mine, so it 
must be the way it was designed, and the Novoflex adapter hasn’t taken it into 
account. The global market for people for people wanting to put this particular 
lens model on a Leica is probably in the neighbourhood of 1, so I’m not 
surprised…

B

> On 6 Sep 2022, at 16:35, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob! 
> 
> Hmm. I'd seen some odd-ball Pentax lens mount stuff over the days when I was 
> mucking with a bunch of Pentax -M and -A lenses and adapters. Never had a 
> 120mm, I'd be interested to see what the rear mounting flange looks like. I 
> know a couple of Pentax lenses had to have the diaphragm control lever 
> modified to fit one or another lens mount adapter out of the bunch that I 
> had… 
> 
> If the server kills your email if you embed a link, drop a line to my 
> personal email. :)
> 
> G
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Re: OT: For the list members in the UK

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Er, no we haven’t and no it isn’t.

141,725 people from a party membership of 172,437 voted for one of two 
candidates chosen by the party’s MPs. Of those 141,725 people only 56% voted 
for her. So about 80,000 people in a population of about 47 million who can 
vote in a general election.

Fewer than half of her party’s MPs voted for her, so she doesn’t even command 
her own party in parliament. Some of them are already talking about getting rid 
of her before the next scheduled general election, in 2024.

She herself has never achieved anything politically, except to become leader of 
her party, and that only because she has the support of the ultra right wing 
disaster capitalists, who are like hyenas, except that I quite like hyenas.

Like the Republicans in the USA the Tories here never cease to amaze by their 
ability to find ever worse, more extreme scumbags to be their party leader.

> On 5 Sep 2022, at 18:00, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I see you have elected a new Prime Minister.
> 
> Politics aside, I suspect the uncertainty of the past several months has
> been troublesome, and hopefully is at an end.
> 
> Stiff upper lip, olc chaps!
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
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Strange thing

[Bob Pdml]

Well, two strange things really.

First is an on-topic message from me.

Second is an oddity with a Pentax-M 120mm f2.8 lens that I have. 

If anyone here has one of these, could you please compare the back of it with 
your other M lenses? 

I have been doing some informal ‘shoot outs’ with my Pentax-M lenses and my 
Leica lenses, and will put them online if anyone is interested. Anyway, I have 
been using my Leica M10 monochrome body for all the shots, and a Novoflex 
adapter for the Pentax lenses, without any problems.

Except that the 120mm lens doesn’t fit the adapter.

On closer inspection, the bit at the back (sorry for the technical jargon) of 
the 120mm lens where the aperture levers are is significantly different from 
the other lenses. The photos at this link show you. The 120mm is on the left; 
the other lens is a 135mm, which is about the same size.

(A link to some pictures should go here, but the server keeps rejecting my 
emails with links. I’ll try to find another way of showing the pictures).

On the 135mm and other lenses there are some concentric grooves at the back, 
and it is stepped down. The 120mm is plain, and doesn’t have the step. 

On the adapter there is a flange which goes down into the dropped part of the 
step when you put a lens on, and of course it can’t do this on the plain back 
end of the 120mm, so the adapter won’t go on the lens.

The lens fits my Pentax MX fine, as well as a number of other MXes I’ve been 
evaluating with a view to buying a new one. As far as I know it doesn’t affect 
anything when shooting. However, I need to test this lens specifically as any 
problems it causes may have become mixed up with problems which have caused me 
to reject other cameras.

It’s possible that someone has had the lens altered for some reason, although 
it is otherwise mint-, but it looks almost like a KF mount.

Anybody else have one like this?

Thanks,
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Re: Out, out, dan spot!

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Those were the days, eh? When all we had to worry about was the Scheimpflug 
principle. How we skipped and jumped and laughed!

Anyway, that diffraction thing is easily solved if you ask me - just develop a 
sensor which only captures light when it’s behaving as a particle, then there’d 
be no diffraction.

> On 30 Aug 2022, at 17:17, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Refraction is a big problem for pixel peepers, not so much for the rest of
> us.
> We never saw it as a problem on film because we weren't blowing things up
> to 4x6 feet and then inspecting the image from 4 inches.
> 
> bill
> 
>> On Mon., Aug. 29, 2022, 10:08 p.m. Alan C,  wrote:
>> 
>> Refraction?
>> 
>> https://photographylife.com/what-is-diffraction-in-photography
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>>> On 28-Aug-22 02:21 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
>>> If at f/18 there’s a soft shadows spot (several) but none at f/5.6 then
>> I’m wondering about sensors.
>>> 
>>> Seems to be a common situation.
>>> 
>>> Never had that issue with film.  ;-)
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Re: GESO - Metropolis

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I was expecting something more along the lines of Fritz Lang. 

What is the ‘special’ film you used? I have been taking B film photos lately, 
mainly Ilford FP-4, but I have bought five rolls of Ferrania P30 which promises 
interesting things. Now I have to find a suitably neo-realist set of subjects.


> On 24 Aug 2022, at 19:57, Toralf Lund  wrote:
> 
> I thought I might post something on that "microblog" site of mine the other 
> day. Even though it's only been about five years since last time. I guess my 
> rate of posting here is also "once every few years" these days, but there you 
> have it...
> 
> https://se.toralf.net/post/692942694488621056/metropolis
> 
> Thanks for looking. Or alternatively for ignoring it completely, which is 
> probably also OK. As I'm saying, I tend to go out with High Hopes in these 
> circumstances, but tend to end up with something that's, well, quite 
> ordinary, I guess.
> 
> - Toralf
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Re: our display at Scugog museum

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That’s very interesting, displaying them in a cabinet like that.

> On 22 Aug 2022, at 21:18, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Three of us that had input into our history display at the Scugog Shore
> Museum finally got around to seeing the final product. I mentioned back in
> June we met up with the curator and roughly laid out the photos and text
> plaques, their design team tidied it up.
> 
> It's a short cell phone video for your dining and dancing pleasure. After
> Sept 2 they close for the year and down she comes.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_qPuauBcq20
> 
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Re: PESO x3 from my run today

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Amazing running trail!

> On 22 Aug 2022, at 10:05, David Mann  wrote:
> 
> It was foggy at home this morning.  The fog cleared but I managed to find 
> some more up on the hills.
> 
> Harry Ell Track:
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1189/#peso
> 
> Bowenvale Valley:
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1190/#peso
> 
> Obscured Transmitter:
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1191/#peso
> 
> All taken with my phone.  The last two were taken quite close to each other, 
> facing in different directions.
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Re: OT: UK OK?

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Well, yes, but some of the tributaries dried up too so they’ll contribute their 
dry bits.

> On 17 Aug 2022, at 07:05, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> The river gets so much wider, it will only be a few millimetres long.
>> On 16/08/2022 15:24 Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It would be interesting to be by the river in London when that dry bit 
>> passes through.
>> 
>>>> On 16 Aug 2022, at 14:49, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I understand the headlines but this is not strictly true.
>>> 
>>> First of all, define ‘source’ = how large an area? The actual source of the 
>>> Thames is merely an area in a dip where water runs off surrounding hills in 
>>> Gloucestershire (quite near me) and collects, forming a trickle downhill 
>>> that turns into a small stream. Yes that has dried up, but has happened 
>>> before a few times.
>>> 
>>> But the headline sounds suitably cataclysmic :-)
>>> 
>>> Cot
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Aug 2022, at 13:00, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For the first time in living memory, the source of the river Thames has
>>> dried up
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The Stories Behind Marion Ettlinger’s Author Portraits

[Bob Pdml]

A very interesting article, great photos, and for a bonus point she always used 
a Pentax

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/the-stories-behind-marion-ettlingers-author-portraits?utm_source=onsite-share_medium=email_campaign=onsite-share_brand=the-new-yorker

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Re: OT: UK OK?

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It would be interesting to be by the river in London when that dry bit passes 
through.

> On 16 Aug 2022, at 14:49, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> I understand the headlines but this is not strictly true.
> 
> First of all, define ‘source’ = how large an area? The actual source of the 
> Thames is merely an area in a dip where water runs off surrounding hills in 
> Gloucestershire (quite near me) and collects, forming a trickle downhill that 
> turns into a small stream. Yes that has dried up, but has happened before a 
> few times.
> 
> But the headline sounds suitably cataclysmic :-)
> 
> Cot
> 
> 
> On 11 Aug 2022, at 13:00, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> For the first time in living memory, the source of the river Thames has
> dried up
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Re: OT: UK OK?

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> On 11 Aug 2022, at 23:47, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>>> […]
>> 
>> *no hosepipes allowed even in normal weather, so if you’ve ever seen the 
>> film Jean de Florette you’ll have an idea of what’s it like to keep it 
>> watered.
> 
> No Emmanuelle Beart to, er, give you a hand, I suppose?
> -

That would be nice! And in spring she could help with my dibber. 


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Re: OT: UK OK?

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https://geologyviewer.bgs.ac.uk/?_ga=2.78805268.1253513310.1660250677-1942513119.1660250677

On 11 Aug 2022, at 21:43, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Thanks for that very detailed and interesting story of your  neighborhood 
geology/geography.  The chalk substrate I gather is related to the "white 
cliffs of Dover"  ?  And I am off to look at topgraphic maps of England :-)
ann


On 8/11/2022 4:24 PM, mike wilson wrote:
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Re: OT: UK OK?

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> On 11 Aug 2022, at 21:24, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> I […]
> In south eastern England there is a chalk substrate, so groundwater literally 
> disappears into the ground when there is a shortage of rain. It is also the 
> most highly populated part of the British Isles. When there are complaints of 
> a drought, it is mainly this part that is suffering.

We have lots of flint though, so when climate change has dragged everyone back 
to the Stone Age we’ll be laughing.

I have a (very dry*) allotment now and when I took it over about a month ago 
the Lord of the allotment explained how it has a good loamy topsoil, then some 
clay, then chalk all the way to Australia. They received a colossal water bill 
last year because there was a huge mains leak that would have flooded anywhere 
else, but just drained into the chalk without anyone noticing a problem.

*no hosepipes allowed even in normal weather, so if you’ve ever seen the film 
Jean de Florette you’ll have an idea of what’s it like to keep it watered.


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Re: Last Call - August PUG

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> On 31 Jul 2022, at 01:08, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2022, at 4:00 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> say what? you make little joke
>> Here is the one I beleive is the original
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jet7Ue743Do
> 
> Rolling Stones disagrees:
> 
> https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/flashback-ive-been-everywhere-puts-hank-snow-johnny-cash-on-the-map-666807/
> 
> 
> “I’ve Been Everywhere” was written and first performed by Australian 
> entertainer Geoff Mack in 1959, and dotted with some 90 places on the Aussie 
> map in its rapid-fire lyrics. Opening with the line, “I was humpin’ my 
> bluey,” which is basically Australian slang for carrying a sleeping bag, the 
> tune first became a hit for another Australian pop-rock artist, Lucky Starr, 
> in 1962.

I certainly hope his brother was called Dingo Starr.


> 
> 
>> 
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Re: The best camera

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> On 13 Jul 2022, at 20:28, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder what butterflies in the Horse Head Nebula look like, however.

That’s what LSD is for - to help you find out.


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Re: Seen this? Limited Edition K-3 mk iii

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I’d buy one and put black tape over the logo.

> On 26 Mar 2022, at 19:36, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 24.03.22 um 23:26 schrieb John Francis:
> 
>> I'd be a little afraid that the only response when I pushed the
>> shutter release...
> Such special editions aren't meant for taking photos.
> 
> Just like their equivalents from Leica, Rollei etc. they'll be unpacked
> with white gloves and go straight into collectors' glass cabinets, not
> to be touched again before they're disposed of by their heirs.
> 
> Nothing wrong with that as long as Ricoh make money with them. So, churn
> them out in neon green, candy red and piggy pink if it helps to make
> decent cameras for the rest of us.
> 
> Ralf
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Re: GESO (7): Art Museum Winter Walk

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Nice, very atmospheric. 

> On 15 Jan 2022, at 01:19, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Last Saturday I tried out a local photo club, which had a wander around the 
> Philadelphia Museum of Art. It is a beautiful building (with a great 
> collection), looming over a series of small hills and the Schylkill 
> (“skool-kill”) river. It was a cold morning, with a temperature of 20F/ -7C, 
> and a breeze off the river.
> 
> Here is a selection of my shots:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2022/January-2022/Art-Museum-Winter-Walk/
> 
> The next-to-last shot is of Philly’s fabled Boathouse Row, which houses 
> several rowing clubs. Not such a nice day to be out on the water, though.
> 
> Comments always appreciated!
> 
> Rick
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Re: OT Knarf update

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I don’t think Dobo was a human. I think he was an early internet 
machine-learning experiment that went badly wrong. He’s probably been 
re-purposed as the microcontroller for a cheap toaster. 

> On 11 Jan 2022, at 03:28, Bill  wrote:
> 
> To be fair,  I was asked.
> 
> bill
> 
>> On Mon., Jan. 10, 2022, 3:55 p.m. Daniel J. Matyola, 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> YOU HAD TO MENTION THAT NAME!
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
>> *
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 4:35 PM Bill  wrote:
>>> 
 On Mon., Jan. 10, 2022, 2:30 p.m. David Brooks wrote:
>>> 
 
 Also, don't ask me why I thought of this but its driving me nuts,
>> anyone
 remember the nut job from London Ontario that said he was a teacher but
 went postal on people on the list with death threats and all.
 
 Dave B
>>> 
>>> Brad Dobo.
>>> 
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Re: OT Knarf update

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He is on Strava but hasn’t posted a ride since August 2019.

> On 10 Jan 2022, at 21:01, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> Am 10.01.22 um 21:33 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:
>> I really miss Frank.  He was a most interesting person and a great
>> photographer.
> 
> Quite so. I still have him linked in my blog in the hope that he'll
> return one day.
> 
> Ralf
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Re: PESOs (2) - Two more from December

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> On 6 Jan 2022, at 20:04, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Faster, slower:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/December-2021/December-2021/i-PSzSx8D/A
> 

The quick and the dead.  Very nice shot.

> 
> Chinese rose:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/December-2021/December-2021/i-4BpX6KG/A
> 
> 

Red or dead. Also very nice, lovely splash of colour.

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Re: PESO: Exmoor ponies

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Incidentally, on the web page you’ve written “pony’s” instead of “ponies”. 

> On 3 Jan 2022, at 14:34, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> That’s really beautiful, lovely light. If only they’d been unicorns!
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2022, at 13:58, Henk Terhell  wrote:
>> 
>> On my daily walk in the dunes I saw the (semi-wild) ponies at a small
>> pool. Fortunately there was just a bit of sunlight.
>> https://flic.kr/p/2mUZKni
>> 
>> Henk
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Re: PESO: Exmoor ponies

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That’s really beautiful, lovely light. If only they’d been unicorns!

> On 3 Jan 2022, at 13:58, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> On my daily walk in the dunes I saw the (semi-wild) ponies at a small
> pool. Fortunately there was just a bit of sunlight.
> https://flic.kr/p/2mUZKni
> 
> Henk
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Re: GESO (6) - Moist New Year's Day

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It’s been a bit soggy here today too, but I have my own weatherproof lens so I 
didn’t need to borrow your wife’s.

https://adobe.ly/32SQDwm


On 2 Jan 2022, at 17:23, Rick Womer  wrote:

Yesterday there was a gentle on-and-off rain most of the day. I borrowed my 
wife’s weather-resistant lens and took my camera for a walk around the 
neighborhood.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2022/January-2022/Moist-New-Years-Day/

(K-5, DA 18-135 WR)

Comments always appreciated!

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Re: PESO - Winter Berries

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Very nice! And copious servings of gladsomeness to you too! 

> On 1 Jan 2022, at 17:39, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Still a few to post from 2021.
> 
> With best wishes for a gladsome and prosperous 2022:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2021/December-2021/December-2021/i-Zcm9Sns/A
> 
> (K-5, DA 17-70)
> 
> Rick
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Re: I won Christmas, and a PESO

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Very good! But it’s not a win. It’s a drawer…

> On 29 Dec 2021, at 14:39, Bill  wrote:
> 
> […]
> 
> So, how did I win Christmas? I make said granddaughter a chest of drawers for 
> Christmas, something that she didn't have.
> 
> And here is a picture of it for the curious:
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mU4mmk
> 
> Technical details: Shot with a Samsung phone, using whatever goes on inside 
> those things.
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Re: PESO 2021 - 173,174 - GDG

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Very nice indeed.

> On 29 Dec 2021, at 20:07, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Just because it's getting old, is obsolete, and isn't made any more doesn't 
> mean it can't make nice photographs...
> 
> Two recent tree photos with the Light L16, separated by about four minutes on 
> one of my walks.
> 
>  Redwood Trees - Santa Clara 2021 :: https://flic.kr/p/2mU24mj
>  Two Trees Against a Cloudy Sunset - Santa Clara 2021 :: 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mUbVRr
> 
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Re: PESO: A walk on the Christmas market

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« J’ai toujours eu une certaine idée des biscuits »

> On 26 Dec 2021, at 10:07, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Charles and Yvonne de Gaulle at the Place d'Armes in Calais on Boxing
> Day 2015. Both were Northerners, he from Lille, she from Calais where
> her family owned a cookie factory.
> 
> Always wondering what he's saying to her. She doesn't seem impressed...
> 
> https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/der-weihnachtsspaziergang-2015-fotoralfbe/45915674

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Re: Happy Holidays

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Καλές γιορτές! 

> On 24 Dec 2021, at 20:45, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Merry Christmas and happy New Year
> 
> Feliz navidad y próspero año nuevo
> 
> Frohe Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr
> 
> щасливого Різдва та щасливого нового року
> 
> Joyeux Noel et bonne année
> 
> Geseënde Kersfees en 'n voorspoedige nuwe jaar
> 
> God Jul och Gott Nytt År
> 
> 
>> On 12/24/2021 12:42 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
>> I’m afraid I’ve been very quiet on here, but wanted to stop by and wish all 
>> my Pentax friends a happy festive season and a prosperous and safe new year.
>> I haven’t shot anything for a long time, other than snaps on my phone or 
>> video for TV and corporate work. I’m in a boat-building mode and will be for 
>> the rest of this coming year at least. It’s going slowly what with lockdowns 
>> and winter and such, but am hoping to get her back in the water in 2022, 
>> fingers crossed. Plus I’m now on the board of the Contest Yacht Owners Club 
>> - 3 Dutchies, me and an American - trying to kickstart that back into 
>> action. And work has picked up again so there’s that. I’ll probably pick up 
>> the stills cameras again when the boat is afloat and I can get out and do 
>> some sailing. So I’ll hang on and resume lurking until I have something 
>> useful to contribute to the PUG one day!
>> Meanwhile, hope you’re all well and good.
>> Best wishes
>> Cotty
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Re: Seasonal greetings

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I think we’ve all let ourselves go a bit these last two years.

> On 22 Dec 2021, at 01:01, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Bob, if that photo is of you, you’ve really changed since retiring!
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 13:12 Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> And the same to you, O Pagan One! May your Winterval season be full of
>> normal office meetings at the end of a long day.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/30SW3a0
>> 
>> B
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 Dec 2021, at 16:52, mike wilson  wrote:
>> 
>> Happy saturnalia!  About an hour late, actually, but better than never.
>> I'm going to try to keep the festivities going until things go back to
>> normal, so I might be away for quite a while.
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Re: Seasonal greetings

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Ooh! You two been fighting?

It was at Stonehenge yesterday.

> On 21 Dec 2021, at 18:12, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> And the same to you, O Pagan One! May your Winterval season be full of 
> normal office meetings at the end of a long day.
> 
> https://adobe.ly/30SW3a0
> 
> B
> 
> 
> On 21 Dec 2021, at 16:52, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Happy saturnalia!  About an hour late, actually, but better than never.  I'm 
> going to try to keep the festivities going until things go back to normal, so 
> I might be away for quite a while.
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Re: Seasonal greetings

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And the same to you, O Pagan One! May your Winterval season be full of normal 
office meetings at the end of a long day.

https://adobe.ly/30SW3a0

B


On 21 Dec 2021, at 16:52, mike wilson  wrote:

Happy saturnalia!  About an hour late, actually, but better than never.  I'm 
going to try to keep the festivities going until things go back to normal, so I 
might be away for quite a while.
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Re: OT: Dyspeptic Rant on Modern CD players

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> On 14 Dec 2021, at 21:41, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Around 35 years ago, I bought my first CD player, a Denon. It provided about 
> 25 years of trouble-free service.
> 
> About 10 years ago it died, and I replaced it with another Denon. Two things 
> annoyed me: The buttons were labelled with dark grey symbols on a black 
> background (impossible to see in dim light), and the display was rubbish. 
> Where the old player had shown the number of tracks, the track being played, 
> the time remaining on that track, and the time remaining on the whole disk, 
> the new one just had the track number and the time remaining on that track.
> 
> Denon #2 died last month after about 9 years, and I just bought a Yamaha. The 
> symbols over the buttons are a bit more visible, but it has the same stingy 
> information as the second Denon.
> 
> C’mon. I can’t believe that a CD player that provided more information would 
> be significantly more expensive to produce.
> 
> Rant complete. 

Get rid of them all. I got rid of mine years ago because they, and the player, 
took up so much space. The cases are just more useless plastic, and at London 
property prices I figured I could get better value out of the square footage. 

When I want to listen to music now I stream it to my hearing aids, but you can 
rip the CDs to some sort of storage device (not vinyl…) and use a software 
player that gives you the information you want.



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Re: Vintage Cameras was: Fulvia ... Almost Home - GDG

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> On 12 Dec 2021, at 23:42, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> Godfrey's mention of his ancient cameras leads me to wonder who else likes 
> collecting these engineering beauties?
> I'll start with a Rolleicord from 1955, a Fed 4L from 1969,  and of course an 
> SV from 1967. Of no great quality, to say the least, I inherited from my 
> mother a number of box cameras, some branded as Kodak and others not.  One I 
> think I have dated to 1926, would still work, and it was made in England!
> 
> John in Brisbane

Most of us are of an age when the cameras we bought new are now vintage…

What is your 1926 English camera?

Somewhere in the family we have my father’s camera which he bought used in 1956 
for the Melbourne Olympics - it was twenty years old at the time. An Agfa of 
some sort, very difficult to use. My oldest is a 1958 Leica M3. Not 
particularly old by Leica standards. After that it’s the MX I bought new in 
1979, which brings me back to the first sentence…

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Re: PESO Selfie

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> On 11 Dec 2021, at 18:20, Toine  wrote:
> 
> ;)
> 
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-397-1000918
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I would never allow a donkey to use one of my cameras for a selfie.

I guess the best ones though would be PanASSonic, or an Olympass, or maybe a 
Pentass. 


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Re: Whoosh? was (I'll be doing a little show in Santa Cruz December 4th)

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> On 27 Nov 2021, at 03:53, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 06:36:44PM -0800, Nolan Hinshaw wrote:
>>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 13:42, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Nov 2021, at 20:48, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>>>> Yeah, but you could see the monarchs.
>> 
>>> I saw Prince Andrew on Monday. 
>> [and cetera, et so on]
>> 
>> I wonder if this apparent whoosh . . .
> 
> 
> It's a joke, I say 'joke', son ...
> 
> I'm pretty sure Bob is savvy enough to know Larry was really talking
> about butterflies (especially since Dan has been posting pictures of
> the ones he raises each year).
> --
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What Nolan has demonstrated is a meta-whoosh in respect of my para-whoosh. 

There was an even better ‘apparent whoosh’ in other John’s reply to my comment 
about the police escort. 
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Re: I'll be doing a little show in Santa Cruz December 4th

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> On 24 Nov 2021, at 20:48, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>> 
>> CONGRATULATIONS!  i AM SURE IT WILL BE A SUCCESS, BUT IT WOULD BE A BIT OF
>> A TRIP FOR ME.  
> 
> Yeah, but you could see the monarchs.
> 

I saw Prince Andrew on Monday. I’d just dropped my Boris bike off at Green Park 
station when a whistle-blowing police motorcycle escort barged its way along 
Piccadilly, guarding two black Range Rovers full of cops. In the front 
passenger seat of the first car sat the disgraced prince of the realm, 
stony-faced. 

I wondered what he’d been up to that required so many policemen to arrest him.

I didn’t see who was in the second car.


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Re: Pentax or Olympus?

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On 24 Nov 2021, at 10:12, mike wilson  wrote:


On 24 November 2021 at 09:27 Bob Pdml  wrote:
Hello again, by the way. I seem to have gone awol from the PDML for a couple of 
months, but messages started coming through again yesterday.

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Re: Pentax or Olympus?

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> On 24 Nov 2021, at 07:32, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 24 November 2021 at 04:47 John Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The Olympus rig is only a little lighter than the Pentax;
>> while the lens is significantly lighter (even though it's
>> f2.8, not f4), the OM-D body is actually quite a bit heavier
>> than the K5. (The K3 is heaver than the K5, too, but still
>> significantly lighter than the OM-D M1X, even with a grip).
> 
> I was rather curious about this.  For decades, Pentax was agreed to be the 
> lightest and petitest of the major manufacturers, generally without a lack of 
> facility.  I can remember discussions here about it being one of the 
> attractants.  It will be interesting to see if you decide that the saving in 
> mass was worth the expenditure.
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A few months ago I bought a used Panasonic GX8 as a second body alongside my 
Olympus E-M1 Mk II. It was like new with only about seven hundred shutter 
clicks, and was about half the price I’d seen advertised elsewhere. 

It very quickly became the camera I reach for first as it’s much, much smaller, 
lighter and more simple than the Oly. I subsequently bought some used and 
cosmetically ugly, but optically sound, Panasonic lenses (12-35/2.8, 
35-100/2.8) which are much lighter and easier to handle than the M.Zuiko 
12-40/2.8, and a new 50/1.7.

I like this kit so much that I’ve bought a second mint GX8, with even fewer 
shutter clicks (just over 400) than the other one, at an even lower price, and 
plan to sell the E-M1 and that lens, along with a few other bits of Olympus kit.

I realise the GX8 is probably not the camera for someone like John, but for me 
it’s a really good find.

Hello again, by the way. I seem to have gone awol from the PDML for a couple of 
months, but messages started coming through again yesterday.

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A visual Turing test

[Bob Pdml]

The Book of Veles: How Jonas Bendiksen Hoodwinked the Photography Industry | 
Magnum Photos

https://www.magnumphotos.com/newsroom/society/book-veles-jonas-bendiksen-hoodwinked-photography-industry/

And now we have to ask, is the article true?

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Re: PESO 2021 - 143 - GDG

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Nice shot, dripping with foreboding, as if one has been sent to the headmaster…


> On 11 Sep 2021, at 15:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I've become slightly obsessed with the 1950s Kodak Retina 35mm folders and 
> have acquired a couple of them now. This is my first rendered photo post from 
> the (slightly beat up) Kodak Retina IIIc. I used Ferrania P30 b film, 
> processed my usual way, and scanned it with the Leica CL. 
> 
>  https://flic.kr/p/2mobsZE :: The Chair by the Church - Santa Clara 2021
> 
> The Kodak Retina IIIc proves a lovely 35mm camera to carry and shoot with: 
> great size, shape, and weight. The folding door covers and protects the lens 
> nicely when I slide it into my camera bag, etc. 
> 
> enjoy!
> G
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Re: SD recovery software recommendation?

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I used one called Recoverit a couple of years to recover some files from a SD 
card for a friend. It worked fine. I had to subscribe for a year, but it didn’t 
cost much and was worth it.

> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:53, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I installed a new external hard drive, restored my files using Time Machine, 
> and was crestfallen to find that (for some reason) the 170 photos I took in 
> the Adirondacks were lost (the disk crash occurred as I was working on them 
> in LR).
> 
> Alas I had already deleted the images from the SD card. Which of the many SD 
> recovery apps out there is a good one?


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Re: OT - tale of woe and techy question for you who are especially electronics/web savvy

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On 9 Sep 2021, at 17:08, mike wilson  wrote:


On 09 September 2021 at 15:57 ann sanfedele  wrote:


P.s. while I'm thinking about that.. perhaps I should just get a new
wallet+lanyard that has the RFID stuff in it.. they are abundant, but
none I've seen on line so far
are quite as nice as the little Lesportsac one I have now that isn't
RFID.  Well, a justifiable shopping expedition is a plus.

ann

Aluminium foil is your friend. 8 -)

Something like this would be more appropriate for ann.

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/145899


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Re: OT - tale of woe and techy question for you who are especially electronics/web savvy

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It might be more fruitful to ask the bank via their website, rather than a 
clerk who doesn’t seem to understand, to set the contactless limit to $0.00.

> On 9 Sep 2021, at 02:10, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Just to clarify; the bank does nothing to the card.  It just alters the 
> protocols on your account so that it does not allow contactless payments.
> 
>> On 08 September 2021 at 23:56 ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I tried .. I went to the bank today to ask if they could remotely turn 
>> off the switch as Mike had reported he had beena ble to do in England.. but
>> as you say below, P.J. , disrupting it somehow would also disable the 
>> chip and strip - the gal at th e bank pointed out to me that the "swish"
>> feature was imbedded right under the chip .
>> 
>> but MIke's suggestion of having two swishables in my purse next to each 
>> other would confuse a reader and nothing would get processed... although
>> I seldom carry more than one card so if somethin untoward occurs only 
>> one of my credit/debit cards is affected.
>> 
>> I really love my pretty little LeSportsac lanyardlike thingy.. if I can 
>> find a small enough one that has the protective stuff sewn in and is not
>> too heavy I'll switch.
>> 
>> ann
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Re: OT: Presidential Visit to my Home Town

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On 8 Sep 2021, at 02:21, John Francis  wrote:

On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 02:32:05PM -0400, John wrote:
I like Biden, but I make it a policy to stay as far away from Presidential
visits as I can.

Good plan.

[…]

I decided that taking the 250-600 along and pointing it at the plane
would probably not be a good idea ...

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I think one of these would be useful for that type of photo - I don’t know why 
they don’t make them any more.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-P9gNDLKagh0/VFDBT1idOAI/Skc/e8UmH6lxwhI/s1600/CameraGun1.jpg

If you position yourself somewhere discreet, maybe behind a wall, in some 
bushes, or the window of say a school book depository, I’m sure you’d get a 
clean shot.


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Re: OT - tale of woe and techy question for you who are especially electronics/web savvy

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People who pay by phone on the tube during rush hour in London are a monstrous 
pain in the ass as it takes longer for the device to do its thing than it takes 
for Oyster or contactless, which are instant. This means that the rhythm of 
people going through the barriers is disturbed, and minor queues build up with 
jockeying for position into other lines, which causes further disruption, and 
so ad infinitum.

> On 7 Sep 2021, at 17:34, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Use Apple Wallet
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
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Re: PESO: Cocky Elephant Bull

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Swahili: Askari 

> On 2 Sep 2021, at 20:37, John  wrote:
> 
> So, what is an "Ascari for an older bull"?
> 
> Google turns up "Ascari Cars Ltd" named after Alberto Ascari, but your guy 
> don't look like he's quite streamlined enough for Formula 1 or Le Mans.
> 
>> On 9/2/2021 10:06:04, Alan C wrote:
>> I spent a couple of days sorting out a friend's K100D. Took some test shots 
>> at my favourite haunt, Sable Dam in the Kruger Park, only 15km from home. 
>> This young Elephant Bull, an Ascari for an older bull, harrassed all 
>> approaching vehicles with mock charges & loud trumpeting. Don't be fooled by 
>> his small tusks - he is still a lot of Bull! Some idiots took him by 
>> surprise & shot past at speed when he moved to the edge of the road. 
>> Eventually the pair moved off without incident.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/51420102149/
>> BTW I see I had the date set as 28/08/2020 rather than 28/08/2021. The K100D 
>> still did a fine job. The problem was an internally damaged D-AL 75-300. The 
>> camera was fine with any other lens.
>> K100D & DA 18-55 WR.
>> Alan C
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Re: PESO Airship

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The two mast like things are… masts, as you say.

In the background, on the horizon line, such as it is, are the 
no-longer-mysterious things that look like pencil marks.

> On 30 Aug 2021, at 17:13, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I see two mastlike things that look like they re attached to the boat to 
> me.. are you saying the boad is in front of them?  when I stare at the photo 
> for a while
> (adjusting my eyes) I can se things that look like pencil marks in the 
> background.  but the tall things with nets hanging from them look like they 
> are on the boat.. and they are not small - they are huge.   aren't thse 
> masts?  Looks like Dan thought so too..  but then we both have glaucoma.
> 
> I thought the cormerant was just winking at you... sorry to hear he is 
> injured.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 8/30/2021 11:31 AM, Toine wrote:
>> Yes, mussel farms they use small trees or branches to mark the mussel banks
>> 
>> The cormorant has a damaged left eye, right on the photo, which is probably
>> fatal.
>> 
>>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2021, 16:54 Bob Pdml,  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mussel farm? Or something similar.
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Aug 2021, at 15:09, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If one zooms in on them, they’re all different and have different
>>> patterns of branches at the top. The appearance is botanical rather than
>>> nautical, methinks.
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:33 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Toine - Particularly like the cormy..who looks cute to me - would not
>>> have known he was damaged
>>>>> the airship is a lovely shot
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick, those are masts on the ship - I think... Yes, Toine?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ann
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/30/2021 9:25 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>>>>> Very nice shot!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The background confuses me, though.  Are those trees growing out of
>>> the water? Reflected in the water?
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Toine  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-273-dscn3006-edit
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Re: PESO Airship

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Mussel farm? Or something similar.

> On 30 Aug 2021, at 15:09, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> If one zooms in on them, they’re all different and have different patterns 
> of branches at the top. The appearance is botanical rather than nautical, 
> methinks.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:33 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Toine - Particularly like the cormy..who looks cute to me - would not have 
>> known he was damaged
>> 
>> the airship is a lovely shot
>> 
>> Rick, those are masts on the ship - I think... Yes, Toine?
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/30/2021 9:25 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>> Very nice shot!
>>> 
>>> The background confuses me, though.  Are those trees growing out of the 
>>> water? Reflected in the water?
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
 On Aug 29, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Toine  wrote:
 
 https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-273-dscn3006-edit
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Re: PESO Airship

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That’s a superb shot of the boat. 

The guy looking for his keys should look in clearer, shallower water - it’ll be 
easier to spot them.

As for the bird…


> On 29 Aug 2021, at 21:50, Toine  wrote:
> 
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-273-dscn3006-edit
> 
> Also spotted a damaged specimen of the favorite pdml bird
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-289-dscn2906-edit
> 
> and someone looking for his keys
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-296-kp22517
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Spot the Spotty?

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A couple of pictures here from 1963 showing Malcolm X with a Spotmatic, and 
presumably a 50mm lens. I wonder if his pictures have ever been published.

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/malcolm-x-kidding-around-muhammad-ali-1963/

That must be why they later chose the designation MX…


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Re: Women photographers, Greenwich Village

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There are only 8 photos on the Instagram post, so you may have seen them all. 
They are by a certain Jessie Tarbox* Beals. Well worth a look elsewhere, 
particularly as she photographed the national parks, which I know interest you, 
at night.

B

*whose idea was that name?

> On 23 Aug 2021, at 22:31, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> B
> I don't have an instagram account so could only look at a few...
> 
> Nope _ had nothing to do with it.. I'm really not in the photo scene here at 
> all anymore, just in case you were checking out my head gear :-)
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 8/23/2021 4:51 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> Just in case there’s anyone here whom the cap fits.
>> 
>> From Instagram:
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CS7Bcsan6Fp/?utm_medium=share_sheet
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Women photographers, Greenwich Village

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Just in case there’s anyone here whom the cap fits. 

From Instagram:

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Re: PESO 2021 - 133-140 - GDG

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Interesting lens! Do you use it on 4/3rds as a 50ish mm equivalent?

There is an interesting triptych to be made with the missile, the road arrow 
and the white fence.


> On 21 Aug 2021, at 01:20, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I continue to experiment with the Aporia 24mm... But this time I fitted it 
> to the Hasselblad 907x using a Leica M to Hasselblad X mount adapter. I 
> figured that since it was designed to cover 24x36 format film, it might work 
> okay on 33x44mm digital sensor if I cropped to square.
> 
> The camera looks slightly ludicrous with a lens that's smaller than and 1/3 
> the weight of the lens mount adapter…
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mhQVWa
> 
> … but if it works okay, who cares? :)
> 
> Some test photos from my daily walks:
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vo6 :: Methodist Church Under Repair - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2migbHw :: Art and Missiles - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2micqgU :: Direction - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2migbJ8 :: Shadow on Tiled Path - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vpd :: Water Distribution - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vpP :: Pickets - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2midHaU :: Siding, Sun, and Shadows - Santa Clara 2021
> https://flic.kr/p/2mi8vqL :: Light Beam on Surface Texture - Santa Clara 2021
> 
> The issues using this lens on the camera are several. 
> 
> - Electronic shutter only, with a scan time of 300milliseconds. So moving 
> subjects are nearly impossible.
> 
> - A 24mm lens, even with full viewfinder magnification for focus assist, 
> proves hard to judge the best focus point. Normally I'd just set the lens by 
> scale, but the focusing scale on the Aporia is way off the mark and needs to 
> be fully re-calibrated to get the best out of it. 
> 
> - Luckily, a 24mm lens at f/5.6 has so much DoF on this format, you can focus 
> pretty approximately and still get usable sharpness. I made a mark for 7 foot 
> distance… that covers 3.5' to infinity. 
> 
> - The camera naturally wants to ride nose up on a strap as I walk, which 
> invites dropping dirt and garbage onto the lens, so I carried it in a bag. 
> 
> It's fun stuff, however, and is sure amusing. You can see in the first two 
> shots (which are directly out of the camera, resized only) there is a bit of 
> color shifting across the capture field but it's fairly subtle. 
> 
> Enjoy!
> G
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Re: Finally getting a 77

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> On 20 Aug 2021, at 19:31, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> 
>>> On 20 August 2021 at 18:55 Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm keeping my 77 for when I get too frail to carry the 85/1.4. I hope 
>> the mechanics of it haven't frozen by then, as my intent is to not 
>> become that frail for half a dozen decades.
> 
> No harm in wishing.  I wish you luck and hope I am in lockstep.
> --

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Re: GESO: SA AEROBATIC CHAMPS, 2021

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Nice stuff.

> On 20 Aug 2021, at 14:45, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Tried my hand at something different. Thanks for all the advice. K5 & HD 
> 55-300. Ended up MF TAV 1/1000sec f8 but not easy. Only about 5% keepers. 
> High aerial shots are heavy crops. Very challenging - obviously needs lots of 
> practice.
> 
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Re: ADVICE PLEASE

[Bob Pdml]

Surely the planes are at infinity or beyond? So why focus at all? Choose your 
focal length and aperture, set it manually to infinity focus, or the hyperfocal 
distance, and leave it. Or am I missing something?



> On 17 Aug 2021, at 19:12, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I have never found a single solution that works all of the time.  I would 
> try A-9 AF-S set up in the center, also manual.  I agree with Godfrey’s 
> suggestion of planning ahead. Pre-focus so that things are close to in focus, 
> wait until the subject is close to in focus and within the 9 selected points.
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>> 
>> The South African Aerobatic Championships is currently on in Phalaborwa with 
>> plenty of Photographic opportunities. I've tried everything but just don't 
>> seem to be able to focus on fast moving aircraft at height. I get close with 
>> MF but AF.S  AF.C are hopeless. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? Perhaps 
>> screw drive is too slow? I've tried the K5 with the HD 55-300 @ 300mm & the 
>> Sigma 170-500 DG @ 500mm. I can focus just fine on the quarter moon!
>> 
>> The Airfield is less than 1Km from my house! About 40 planes are taking 
>> part. The last event like this in Phalaborwa was about 25years ago so this 
>> is quite something. Of course there are several wet blankets complaining 
>> about the noise.
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Re: Mafia Nuns

[Bob Pdml]

He’s nun the wiser…

> On 14 Aug 2021, at 16:44, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> SO you never knew the REAL reason LUther left the church... :-)
> 
> a
> 
>> On 8/14/2021 10:14 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> I guess we Lutherans have a more benign image of nuns.
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
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>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 3:47 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>>>> On 13 Aug 2021, at 19:51, Daniel J. Matyola 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Nice image, Bob.
>>>> 
>>>> Somehow, the excessive light coming through the windows creates a
>>> powerful
>>>> effect, as well as highlighting the face of your subject.
>>>> 
>>>> Why "Mafia"?  What am I missing?
>>> I always think nuns look like mafiosi, and I went to a Christian Brothers
>>> school, where some of them behaved like it too.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Mafia Nuns

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> On 13 Aug 2021, at 19:51, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Nice image, Bob.
> 
> Somehow, the excessive light coming through the windows creates a powerful
> effect, as well as highlighting the face of your subject.
> 
> Why "Mafia"?  What am I missing?

I always think nuns look like mafiosi, and I went to a Christian Brothers 
school, where some of them behaved like it too.

> 
>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 2:32 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Will be the title of my first movie. There was one today in the cafe where
>> I do my Greek homework.
>> 
>> Shot with my iPhone on massive digital zoom, and B in LR.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/37IoKX0
>> 
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Re: Mafia Nuns

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Spot on

> On 13 Aug 2021, at 20:06, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> She looks like she's making someone an offer they dare not refuse, complete 
> with the hand gesture describing what will happen if they do.
> 
>> On 13 August 2021 at 19:50 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Nice image, Bob.
>> 
>> Somehow, the excessive light coming through the windows creates a powerful
>> effect, as well as highlighting the face of your subject.
>> 
>> Why "Mafia"?  What am I missing?
>> 
>> Dan Matyola
>> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
>> <https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery>*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 2:32 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will be the title of my first movie. There was one today in the cafe where
>>> I do my Greek homework.
>>> 
>>> Shot with my iPhone on massive digital zoom, and B in LR.
>>> 
>>> https://adobe.ly/37IoKX0
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Re: Mafia Nuns

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> On 13 Aug 2021, at 20:11, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Will be the title of my first movie. There was one today in the cafe where I 
>> do my Greek homework.
>> 
>> Shot with my iPhone on massive digital zoom, and B in LR.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/37IoKX0
> 
> Nice photo, and fun title.
> 
> She’s not quite as young and hot as most of the characters in “warrior nun” 
> which I enjoyed watching more than I expected, but I could definitely see her 
> as one of the secondary characters in it.

Teaching the novices to use their nunchucks?


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Mafia Nuns

[Bob Pdml]

Will be the title of my first movie. There was one today in the cafe where I do 
my Greek homework.

Shot with my iPhone on massive digital zoom, and B in LR.

https://adobe.ly/37IoKX0



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