Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
I can just about understand the need for people to want to belong to something they believe in, or would like to be a part of, but anything that by nature is exclusive does not get my support or interest. Cheers, Cotty 2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow,

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
What's *hard* to imagine about Pentax? Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:58:49 -0700 (PDT) No way it could be stated any better

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread cbwaters
: Pentax Gallery Resignation I can just about understand the need for people to want to belong to something they believe in, or would like to be a part of, but anything that by nature is exclusive does not get my support or interest. Cheers, Cotty 2000 people from the PDML will show up

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Fascinating (in Mr Spock of Vulcan way)... I tend to agree with you on most of the sentiments you expressed. In fact, I kind of thought it would be competitive (the Pentax gallery thingie) from the start. Given the fact that the submitted work is filtered by someone else immediately implies

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
LOL Cory. :-) Tom C. From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:09:46 -0400 Tom, what time is this meet... I have a production rehearsal at 7

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: ann sanfedele Gonz wrote: Oops that should have been family Leporidae. I'm not sure whether Frank is a Rabbit or a Hare. wabbit A wascally wabbit? he-he-e-e-e -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:09 AM, Cotty wrote: My competitive side extends solely to my professional life. Needs must. Beyond that, I'm not a keen advocate of the 'I am better than you and I would like it personally vindicated' philosophy. Actually I see any photographic competition as

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation No way it could be stated any better, Frank. Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a handy explanation..if needed. When

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault n 9/27/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly pointless. snip I agree 100%! Unless the prize for the winning photograph is worth having. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation No way it could be stated any better, Frank. Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a handy explanation..if needed. When 'proven' laudable work

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: 2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow, blocking the door so you can't get in and quaff your thirst with a pint. Then we'll see how you feel about exclusive. ;-) Har!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean you aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the competition are such that you are competing against a standard. Question: how subjective is this standard? --

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Tom, what time is this meet... I have a production rehearsal at 7 PM EST...so with the travel time to the U.K it's going to tighten up my day considerably... Ceeb I think you'd like it over here. Ever been? We could show you a pretty nice

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
Actually, I consider I'm just vying for a favorable subjective opinion from da 'judge'. Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean you aren't competing, it just means

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
2000 people from the PDML will show up at your local pub tomorrow, blocking the door so you can't get in and quaff your thirst with a pint. Tom C. You buying ? Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread pnstenquist
as a competition. If one chooses to consider the accepted image count as a 'score' against which one is competing, then it's a competition. Your choice. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
is this standard? Same as all competitions: Very. Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because, unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target (acceptance into the Gallery, in this case). I may not agree with their choices, but teaching myself (or trying to teach

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation No way it could be stated any better, Frank. Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to imagine. Could be they consider accepted artist voting a handy explanation

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
be outstanding. If it's not designed to be that, then the result will be something less. (Stating the obvious). Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:45:35

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because, unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target (acceptance into the Gallery, in this case). I may not agree with their choices, but teaching myself (or trying to teach myself!) to achieve what they're after makes me push myself

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: how subjective is this standard? Same as all competitions: Very. Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because, unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target (acceptance into the Gallery

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote: I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? And it's a moving target, to boot. You never know who may be voting on your photo at any given time. Subjective is one thing. Variably

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
Subjective is one thing. Variably subjective is irritating at best. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ ... said the married man... Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread graywolf
Lepus and all its associated species and subspecies. =:) On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Bob W
. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 27 September 2007 21:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: how

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
USE THE FORCE, FRANK. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:07:05 +0100 How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread frank theriault
On 9/27/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pooka Just like Harvey... :-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread John Francis
Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? Do you know why? As far as the Pentax Gallery goes - I didn't submit originally for a couple of reasons; my first attempt didn't work (because I was trying

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest because, unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target (acceptance into the Gallery, in this case). I may not agree with their choices, but teaching myself

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/09/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? There's no explanation as to the criteria to get past the accepted artists' voting: How many votes

Re: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote: How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and to guide the arrow into his heart, as the heron's beak enters the stream. For are they not one,

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
, the string, the arrow, the archer and the target are one. Hope that helps. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 27 September 2007 21:29 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
Subjective is one thing. Variably subjective is irritating at best. Every photo contest I've ever entered had variable subjectivity IMO Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation frank

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
...after hearing of all the various problems others are having, I doubt if I'll bother to submit anything (and I *still* haven't written a bio). I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into the Premiere Gallery. I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into the Premiere Gallery. I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of people the response I get back from most of them is that are really impressed with the overall manner

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread David Savage
On 9/28/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crap-shoot. Going off topic. This phrase always brings to mind Mambo t-shirts the artwork of Reg Mombassa. Carry on. Cheers, Dave (I don't think non-Aussies will get the connection) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Jack Davis
..especially kind people. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into the Premiere Gallery. I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of people the response I get back

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Brian Walters
I agree with Mark on this. For all of its faults, the Pentax Gallery has given my photography a bit more focus (pun not intended). I'm not necessarily taking photos specifically aimed at being accepted (because most aren't) but I find I'm taking more care about composition and lighting

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Tom C
Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:02:43 -0700 (PDT) ..especially kind people. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery several into the Premiere Gallery. I've

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Doug Franklin
Tom C wrote: 1. I don't want to think my images are good just because I pressed the shutter or because I may have a personal attachment to the subject. 2. On the other hand, just because a preponderance of people seeing the image say they like it, does not make it a good or successful

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Kenneth Waller
It's not bad, but most people love my photos when I show to them. Yippee! :-) My point is a lot more people are getting to see my images because of the gallery. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote: I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. William Robb Good to have you back, Bill. :) -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation If you're talking about image displayed on the PDML, I'd guess that at least some of it is the self selection effect. Basically, people who think well of the image are far more likely to post about

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You can see what has been accepted can't you? The standard

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Actually, I consider I'm just vying for a favorable subjective opinion from da 'judge'. You may get a favourable enough opinion, and still not win the competition, in that if your picture didn't (doesn't

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation It's a personal competition, but you're not competing against others. For the accepted image count to be a score, everyone would have to make the same number of submissions. I recall one PDML

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and to guide the arrow

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Overall I find people to be too easily impressed. I find people too reluctant to label crap as what it is. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation Well, Robb, I'm not surprised that it's being viewed as a competition. If one chooses to consider the accepted image count as a 'score' against which one is competing, then it's a competition. Your choice

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-27 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation On 27/09/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean you aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the competition are such that you

Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread frank theriault
Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail, there are three pending. It is obvious that somewhere along the selection process, someone

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Tom C
PDML@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Gallery Resignation Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:54:15 -0400 Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread P. J. Alling
Frank they simply don't understand you the way we do. frank theriault wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread pnstenquist
submissions. Take it with a grain of salt. You're an excellent photographer. Paul -- Original message -- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread frank theriault
On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of sounding insensitive... you can't resign from an entity you were not a part of. I hope this cheers you up and provides added incentive to continue. ;-) Actually, I was a part of it in some manner. I could vote on photos, and in fact I

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Boris Liberman
to submit some of my photos when there were only few photographs and photographers in the gallery. And some of my work got accepted. Having said that, I think you should really not dwell much in this specific project. I realize it would be cool to be on display on Pentax Gallery, but if you're

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread frank theriault
be cool to be on display on Pentax Gallery, but if you're not there it *really* does not make you any less a photographer than you actually are. Cheer up! No worries, and thanks for the vote of confidence (from everybody, not just you, Boris). In fact, I'm fine with this, and I'm not depressed about

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Steve Sharpe
Well, at least you got rejected. I never a peep from them after submitting myself for acceptance. At 12:54 PM -0400 9/26/07, frank theriault wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread David J Brooks
Sounds like an internet reality show in the making.:-) Dave On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/07, Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, at least you got rejected. I never a peep from them after submitting myself for acceptance. So I'm not the biggest loser

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread frank theriault
On 9/26/07, Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, at least you got rejected. I never a peep from them after submitting myself for acceptance. So I'm not the biggest loser on the list? ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Tom C
Actually, I was a part of it in some manner. I could vote on photos, and in fact I was exhorted to do so. It's from that exhortation that I was told that I was an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery. On that basis (so they told me) I could vote. In fact, it was when I read that line I

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Tom C
As the PDML Turns Last week, Frank decided to discontinue his relationship with the Pentax Gallery. Little did he know that... Tom C. From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 2:36 PM -0400 9/26/07, frank theriault wrote: On 9/26/07, Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, at least you got rejected. I never a peep from them after submitting myself for acceptance. So I'm not the biggest loser on the list? Apparently not. :^( -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Norm Baugher
Right on Frankie, cool, join the club. I resigned my position on Monday. Feels good... Norm frank theriault wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread frank theriault
On 9/26/07, Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm not the biggest loser on the list? Apparently not. :^( Clearly a plot against Canadians! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Jack Davis
...Tom had a mole in place to decline Frank's work due of abject jealousy. Ahhh, but Frank had a plan... Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the PDML Turns Last week, Frank decided to discontinue his relationship with the Pentax Gallery. Little did he know that... Tom C

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote: As the PDML Turns Last week, Frank decided to discontinue his relationship with the Pentax Gallery. Little did he know that... ...Dave had just accepted a job with an escort service. Meanwhile, on the other side of the world there are more strange goings-on as the eBay sale

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 3:38 PM -0400 9/26/07, frank theriault wrote: On 9/26/07, Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I'm not the biggest loser on the list? Apparently not. :^( Clearly a plot against Canadians! By Gosh, you're right! I'll bet the neocons have taken over Pentax! Hoya is just a front!

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Cotty
On 26/09/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: so I'll continue shooting, with or without The PENTAX Photo Gallery. Hey Frank. Welcome to my life :-) I entered a photographic competition once. It was the first and last time. Absolutely never again. I only ever make pics for one

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Gonz
Frank, didn't you read the fine print? In Title 9, section 4, paragraph 110, Item b) : No work shall be accepted from the class Lepus and all its associated species and subspecies. =:) On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery

RE: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread John Sessoms
I sent the club a wire stating, PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER. Groucho Marx From: frank theriault Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread keith_w
frank theriault wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date of this e-mail, there are three pending. It is obvious that somewhere along

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Gonz
associated species and subspecies. =:) On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected. As of the date

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread David Savage
At 01:42 AM 27/09/2007, frank theriault wrote: On 9/26/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of sounding insensitive... you can't resign from an entity you were not a part of. I hope this cheers you up and provides added incentive to continue. ;-) Actually, I was a part of it in

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread ann sanfedele
the class Lepus and all its associated species and subspecies. =:) On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may be an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery, however, my first 12 photos have been rejected

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread P. J. Alling
? In Title 9, section 4, paragraph 110, Item b) : No work shall be accepted from the class Lepus and all its associated species and subspecies. =:) On 9/26/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copy of e-mail recently sent to The Pentax Gallery: Sirs/Mesdames, I may

Re: Pentax Gallery Resignation

2007-09-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Strange. I really thought that you were rather competitive person, Cotty. I am fairly competitive, but in photography I don't feel any desire to prove anything. So I don't really participate in competitions... Boris Cotty wrote: On 26/09/07, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

RE: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-16 Thread Rod Connan
Very, VERY true. I have watched this in a number of situations - applies in commentary and in notice given. Rod -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Welcome to the Camera Club, Frank. If your photos don't look like everyone else's

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/09/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: How about Jackson Pollock's paintings? Now you're getting nasty!!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Art criticism is not art, and does not define art. It merely judges it. G On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's why the test of time is critical. Works that are appreciated and applauded over the centuries earn the right to be called art. Nothing current can rightfully

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 14, 2007, at 12:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... :o) that, and does a good

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 14, 2007, at 12:49 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Sep 13, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... We haven't had this debate in at least a month. It's time... :o) that, and does a good

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: Much modern art is a scam, just so much crap, Very true. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 14, 2007, at 3:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Exactly. I didn't say beauty defines art. I said something beautiful is worth looking at.. But you still haven't suggested what allows you to recognize what is beautiful. I said something that is beautiful CAN be art, just as a great

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Jack Davis
An expressed mutual respect for points made will always facilitate a stimulating discussion. An apparent disregard or correcting exchange will only last 'til someone feels they have won. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 14, 2007, at 3:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Tom C
Now that's a classic. Mark! Tom C. From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. -- Rob Studdert -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Tom C
Of course it can concurrently be art and a dog shit but practically I'd tend towards labeling it the latter if that's what it is. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Honestly. I have two dogs which make some very nice pieces of work. If anyone here want's some of this doggy art let me know.

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread graywolf
Now, Rob, you know that if it is well composed, properly lit, and shot with Velvia it is ART. But crappy ART, of course. chuckle Digital Image Studio wrote: On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Gonz
Well if you want to be anal bout it. On 9/13/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it. I say a dog shit with a frame around it is still a dog shit. -- Rob

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread Gonz
in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one of mine has been accepted so far. Not a single one. I've still got about 6 pending, but 6 have been rejected outright. Street shots, still lifes, sports shots (Corner Kick, fer gawd's sake - and if I'm allowed a moment of immodesty, that was a muther

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-14 Thread John Sessoms
Are you going to start that shit again! From: Gonz Well if you want to be anal bout it. On 9/13/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/09/2007, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I say is art, IS art. If it has a frame around it.

Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread frank theriault
To those who've complained that not all of your photos have been accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one of mine has been accepted so far. Not a single one. I've still got about 6 pending, but 6 have been rejected outright. Street shots, still lifes, sports shots (Corner Kick

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote: To those who've complained that not all of your photos have been accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one of mine has been accepted so far. Not a single one. I've still got about 6 pending, but 6 have been rejected outright. Street shots, still

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Frank, that's because they don't understand the Theraultian ethos, they're aiming for punchy eye candy, not muddy thought provoking existentialism. frank theriault wrote: To those who've complained that not all of your photos have been accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread P. J. Alling
that not all of your photos have been accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one of mine has been accepted so far. Not a single one. I've still got about 6 pending, but 6 have been rejected outright. Street shots, still lifes, sports shots (Corner Kick, fer gawd's sake - and if I'm

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread graywolf
Welcome to the Camera Club, Frank. If your photos don't look like everyone else's photos you do not know how to take pictures... frank theriault wrote: To those who've complained that not all of your photos have been accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one of mine has

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Rebekah
] wrote: Welcome to the Camera Club, Frank. If your photos don't look like everyone else's photos you do not know how to take pictures... frank theriault wrote: To those who've complained that not all of your photos have been accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Tom C
: Rebekah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:25:33 -0400 A lot of the pictures on there seem like crisp snapshots of pretty things rather than good photographs. Anyone can

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Rebekah
accepted in the Pentax Gallery, quit yer bitchin'! Not one of mine has been accepted so far. Not a single one. I've still got about 6 pending, but 6 have been rejected outright. Street shots, still lifes, sports shots (Corner Kick, fer gawd's sake - and if I'm

Re: Pentax Gallery

2007-09-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The question you posed is indeed What is a good picture? a sibling to What is art? ... Let the debate commence (again) ! Godfrey On Sep 13, 2007, at 11:39 AM, Rebekah wrote: You need to study the compositional aspects of many of those pictures. the lack of composition was my point On

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