Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-26 Thread Toine
Yes probably a touch screen. My hope is something more innovative.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 19:57, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
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>
>
> Someone guessed it could be a "proximity sensor". If the camera
> has a touch-screen, that gets turned off when you look through the
> viewfinder.
> It is similar to cell-phones that turn off the screen when you bring it to
> your ear.
>
> Igor
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> Toine Fri, 20 Sep 2019 13:04:48 -0700 wrote:
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> The sensor below the eyepiece: Maybe an EVF but why a pentaprism on
> the body. Maybe both DSLR and EVF. I have wet myself :)
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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR




Someone guessed it could be a "proximity sensor". If the camera
has a touch-screen, that gets turned off when you look through the 
viewfinder.
It is similar to cell-phones that turn off the screen when you bring it to 
your ear.


Igor


Toine Fri, 20 Sep 2019 13:04:48 -0700 wrote:

The sensor below the eyepiece: Maybe an EVF but why a pentaprism on
the body. Maybe both DSLR and EVF. I have wet myself :)



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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-23 Thread Rick Womer
A long time, yes; but I clearly remember the video you starred in with your 
K10D (or maybe the K10 starred, with you). It was during one of those moments 
when Pentax thought that some advertising might not be a bad thing.

Rick

> On Sep 22, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
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> It's been a very long time since I used a Pentax (or even Ricoh) camera now. 
> The 2003 vintage Olympus E-1 that has been my favorite DSLR (along with my 
> three favorite E-System lenses) is still on the shelf, works fine, etc, but I 
> rarely use DSLRs anymore. My last, and probably final, Pentax lens is the 
> superlative Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special which I use very happily on a Leica 
> CL APS-C mirrorless body: it makes superb photographs. As soon as the new 
> Hasselblad gets here, I'll be testing it out on that too… I expect it will 
> cover the 33x33 sensor crop I'll be using very nicely. :)
> 
> 100 years since Asahi Optical was founded? That's a lot of history. I 
> celebrate any photographic company that can creditably trace their history 
> back as far as a century … Photographic equipment has been a tumultuous, 
> chaotic business. 
> 
> Bravo Pentax! Keep it going!
> 
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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-23 Thread John

I wonder if that's a real thing or just some kind of sarcastic comment by ADMIN?

On 9/21/2019 15:38:53, P. J. Alling wrote:
So the Pentax 100 years meeting is/was to be held today, or yesterday based on 
your understanding of the international date line.


The New Flagship DSLR was/is to be exhibited there so I figured I would do a 
search to see if there was more information on the new camera.


Instead I found this:

https://pentaxrumors.com/2019/09/19/pentax-100-years-of-history-limited-edition-hot-shoe-cover-o-hc171-officially-announced/ 



Truly RIcoh's marketing has absorbed it's lessons from Pentax and has become the 
Best of the Worst.


Strangely enough I'd like one, but damned if I'll buy one.

On 9/20/2019 4:08 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish Pentax/Ricoh 
importer.


Read more at:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/new-pentax-dslr-prototype-to-be-exhibited.html#ixzz603AzzCzi 







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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's been a very long time since I used a Pentax (or even Ricoh) camera now. 
The 2003 vintage Olympus E-1 that has been my favorite DSLR (along with my 
three favorite E-System lenses) is still on the shelf, works fine, etc, but I 
rarely use DSLRs anymore. My last, and probably final, Pentax lens is the 
superlative Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special which I use very happily on a Leica CL 
APS-C mirrorless body: it makes superb photographs. As soon as the new 
Hasselblad gets here, I'll be testing it out on that too… I expect it will 
cover the 33x33 sensor crop I'll be using very nicely. :)

100 years since Asahi Optical was founded? That's a lot of history. I celebrate 
any photographic company that can creditably trace their history back as far as 
a century … Photographic equipment has been a tumultuous, chaotic business. 

Bravo Pentax! Keep it going!

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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-21 Thread Steve Sharpe

Good grief.


At 3:38 PM -0400 9/21/19, P. J. Alling wrote:
So the Pentax 100 years meeting is/was to be held today, or 
yesterday based on your understanding of the international date line.


The New Flagship DSLR was/is to be exhibited there so I figured I 
would do a search to see if there was more information on the new 
camera.


Instead I found this:

https://pentaxrumors.com/2019/09/19/pentax-100-years-of-history-limited-edition-hot-shoe-cover-o-hc171-officially-announced/

Truly RIcoh's marketing has absorbed it's lessons from Pentax and 
has become the Best of the Worst.


Strangely enough I'd like one, but damned if I'll buy one.


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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-21 Thread P. J. Alling
So the Pentax 100 years meeting is/was to be held today, or yesterday 
based on your understanding of the international date line.


The New Flagship DSLR was/is to be exhibited there so I figured I would 
do a search to see if there was more information on the new camera.


Instead I found this:

https://pentaxrumors.com/2019/09/19/pentax-100-years-of-history-limited-edition-hot-shoe-cover-o-hc171-officially-announced/

Truly RIcoh's marketing has absorbed it's lessons from Pentax and has 
become the Best of the Worst.


Strangely enough I'd like one, but damned if I'll buy one.

On 9/20/2019 4:08 AM, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish Pentax/Ricoh 
importer.

Read more at:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/new-pentax-dslr-prototype-to-be-exhibited.html#ixzz603AzzCzi



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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-21 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 08:08:13 + (UTC) Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
>
>I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish Pentax/Ricoh 
>importer.
>
>Read more at:
>https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/new-pentax-dslr-prototype-to-be-exhibited.html#ixzz603AzzCzi

Wow.

Am I glad I did NOT invest in another system (Olympus of Panasonic micro-43)
but instead got the DFA 15-30 and the 24-70mm.


I swear my mouse has been hoovering over the 'buy now' buttons several times 
earlier this year :)


Time to get the 150-450 I guess.


Happy Camper!

And I might have mentioned it before, but that 15-30 is an AMAZING lens, way 
more versatile
than I expected. I did a family outing shoout last week carrying that, and two 
other lesnes,
and ended up shooting 99% with the 15-30 :)


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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-20 Thread P. J. Alling

Moore's law has been broken for about 5 years now.

However I was really hoping that they hadn't gone crazy on the UI since 
changing between cameras is getting to be more of a pain as I get 
older.  That looks like it might not be true since the top plate 
controls kind of look like those on the K-1 and the K-P but not really, 
and the back plate looks like the K-3 but not really.    That said, the 
addition of a joystick for selecting autofocus points etc. is probably a 
very good thing, better than a lot of videocentric controls on a camera 
that's universally acknowledged as a not great video platform.  The 
third dial on the back of the top plate if it can be dedicated to 
something useful such as ISO would be very useful.  The small dial that 
eats into the top plate display seems to have very few functions on it, 
enough said about that.


Better auto focus would be nice, improved battery life would be nice, 
higher resolution than the K-3 is probably a given, but I don't really 
think it's necessary in an APS-C sized sensor, fewer higher quality 
pixels might be a better option but the Megapixel wars must go on 
apparently.  Higher frame rates also probably a given, (hopefully with 
the return of the 1/8000 sec top shutter speed), but it kind of depends 
on the implementation.  I expect that higher dynamic range is also in 
the cards, though probably through programming trickery, still that too 
would be nice, (nicer if the user could turn it off to get true raw 
files, if possible).


Faster bus speed with a big buffer, yes that would be nice too. Most 
likely we'll see one or the other of those.


I really do hope this gives people a compelling case to upgrade, because 
that's the only way RIcoh will sell enough cameras for Pentax to survive 
as a brand and a system.


Unfortunately as with all Digital cameras nowadays, it's main 
competition will be with the previous two or three generations of 
digital cameras, which reached sufficiency for the needs for most 
photographers, and sell at bargain prices.


On 9/20/2019 2:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sep 20, 2019, at 9:28 AM, John Francis  wrote:

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 08:08:13AM +, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish Pentax/Ricoh 
importer.

Read more at:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/new-pentax-dslr-prototype-to-be-exhibited.html#ixzz603AzzCzi

Hmm.  It looks as though I'll probably be buying a camera next year …


It will be very interesting to see how it performs.  There seems to be about a 
2-3 year gap in APS vs FF sensor performance.  In theory based on Moore’s law 
it would be about 1.5 years for a doubling of performance makes up for having 
half the sensor area. With something like a four year gap between the K-1 and 
this, the sensor might out perform the K-1.  Similarly they also have several 
years of technology to throw at autofocus.




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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-20 Thread Toine
The sensor below the eyepiece: Maybe an EVF but why a pentaprism on
the body. Maybe both DSLR and EVF. I have wet myself :)

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:35, Ken Waller  wrote:
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> So the sky isn’t falling.
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> -Original Message-
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> >Subject: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited
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> >I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish 
> >Pentax/Ricoh importer.
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> >Read more at:
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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-20 Thread Larry Colen

> On Sep 20, 2019, at 9:28 AM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 08:08:13AM +, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
>> I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish 
>> Pentax/Ricoh importer.
>> 
>> Read more at:
>> https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/new-pentax-dslr-prototype-to-be-exhibited.html#ixzz603AzzCzi
> 
> Hmm.  It looks as though I'll probably be buying a camera next year …
> 
It will be very interesting to see how it performs.  There seems to be about a 
2-3 year gap in APS vs FF sensor performance.  In theory based on Moore’s law 
it would be about 1.5 years for a doubling of performance makes up for having 
half the sensor area. With something like a four year gap between the K-1 and 
this, the sensor might out perform the K-1.  Similarly they also have several 
years of technology to throw at autofocus. 




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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-20 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 08:08:13AM +, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
> I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish 
> Pentax/Ricoh importer.
> 
> Read more at:
> https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/new-pentax-dslr-prototype-to-be-exhibited.html#ixzz603AzzCzi

Hmm.  It looks as though I'll probably be buying a camera next year ...


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Re: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-20 Thread Ken Waller
So the sky isn’t falling.


-Original Message-
>From: Jaume Lahuerta 
>Subject: New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited
>
>I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish Pentax/Ricoh 
>importer.
>
>Read more at:
>https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/new-pentax-dslr-prototype-to-be-exhibited.html#ixzz603AzzCzi


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New Pentax Flagship DSLR Prototype to be Exhibited

2019-09-20 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
I received this today from Pentaxforums and also from the Spanish Pentax/Ricoh 
importer.

Read more at:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/new-pentax-dslr-prototype-to-be-exhibited.html#ixzz603AzzCzi


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