Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-20 Thread Powell Hargrave
I worked in a small photo lab in Vancouver in the early '60s. Any frontal nudity got the whole role trashed. A discretely uncovered breast would occasionally be allowed. If the owner of the film protested he was threatened with a call to the police. On the other hand photos of naked children

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-20 Thread Bob Shell
On Wednesday, October 19, 2005, at 10:21 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The right to be left alone disappeared with the beginning of the Nanny State in the late 1930's under FDR. It wasn't very intrusive at first but that's when the camels head entered the tent. I'll be very hard to evict now

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-20 Thread Frantisek
BS In the USA the magic age is 18. Anyone under 18 is a child under the BS law. Suddenly, on the 18th birthday some magical event occurs and the BS person becomes an adult. Of course they still can't legally drink BS alcohol until another magical date, their 21st birthday! So, what happens in

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-20 Thread Bob Shell
On Thursday, October 20, 2005, at 06:24 AM, Frantisek wrote: So, what happens in the US when to people under 18 have intercourse? Nobody gets charged with breaking the law, or both? Depends on whether the boy is a football star or not. An ordinary joe gets charged with statutory rape. A

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread Toralf Lund
William Robb wrote: I wonder how many people won't see this because of the subject line It is pornography if the subject is in a situation or position that may be titillating to the viewer. In other words, pornography is defined not by the creator of it, but by the viewer, and that

RE: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread Jens Bladt
Kiddy Porn prints, though. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. oktober 2005 02:29 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues I wonder how many people won't see this because

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread DagT
. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. oktober 2005 02:29 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues I wonder how many people won't see this because of the subject line

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread Bob Shell
On Wednesday, October 19, 2005, at 03:01 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: So, is pornography illegal??? Supposedly not, but our new Attorney General is now setting up an FBI anti-pornography squad in DC. Seems like our government would have some genuinely important things to expend manpower and

RE: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread Jens Bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: DagT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. oktober 2005 21:58 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues In Norway it is illegal to sell pornography (that is active genitalia), but it may be changing soon because

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread Toralf Lund
DagT wrote: In Norway it is illegal to sell pornography (that is active genitalia), Actually, I think someone representing Statens Filmtilsyn/Medietilsynet (the State Media Authority) said on TV a while back that although most people seem to believe the law mentions active genitalia, the

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues As fa as I'm concerned people can photograph pretty mucch what ever they want. I guess labs can't legally make Kiddy Porn prints, though. The problem isn't

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread John Forbes
Keep rejecting them, Bill. It might make a few more people realise what a crazy world we are now living in. John On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:03:22 +0100, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
The right to be left alone disappeared with the beginning of the Nanny State in the late 1930's under FDR. It wasn't very intrusive at first but that's when the camels head entered the tent. I'll be very hard to evict now that it's fully ensconced on the couch smoking from the hookah. Bob

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-19 Thread Tom C
You make me laugh, but I believe you. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] The right to be left alone disappeared with the beginning of the Nanny State in the late 1930's under FDR. It wasn't very intrusive at first but that's when the camels head entered the tent. I'll be very

RE: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Bob W
Every cloud has a silver lining. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 October 2005 04:42 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues On Oct 18, 2005, at 1:28 PM, William

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: [snippage] But if we publish it, we are in deep doodoo. It makes us careful. Thanks for the explanation. If Butch was under orders rather than working off his own initiative, then I owe him an apology. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ ||

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/10/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed: So what about that weird kids glamour site link that was posted to the list a couple of months back (the one where they all had alien eyes and boofy hairdoos). Where would that fall? Comedy. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Bob Shell
On Monday, October 17, 2005, at 11:41 PM, David Mann wrote: It is pornography if the subject is in a situation or position that may be titillating to the viewer. There goes half of the advertising industry. There is a very specific legal definition of pornography. Bob

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread frank theriault
On 10/18/05, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very specific legal definition of pornography. what would that be? thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues On 17/10/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: [snippage] But if we publish it, we are in deep doodoo. It makes us careful. Thanks for the explanation. If Butch

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues On 10/18/05, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very specific legal definition of pornography. what would that be? I was wondering about that one

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Bob Shell
On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 08:38 AM, frank theriault wrote: what would that be? The visual depiction of actual or simulated sexual activity. Bob

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Oct 2005 at 8:49, Bob Shell wrote: On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 08:38 AM, frank theriault wrote: what would that be? The visual depiction of actual or simulated sexual activity. That's still vague, unless all the bits that shouldn't be depicted are listed and which

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread frank theriault
On 10/18/05, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 08:38 AM, frank theriault wrote: The visual depiction of actual or simulated sexual activity. wow! that's scary! is kissing sexual? necking or petting? on the other hand nudity with no activity seems not

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Doug Brewer
don't know what it would be, but this subject line is awakening spam filters all over the world. frank theriault wrote: On 10/18/05, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very specific legal definition of pornography. what would that be? thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Bob Shell
On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 09:39 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: That's still vague, unless all the bits that shouldn't be depicted are listed and which particular combinations these bits are deemed to constitute sexual activity simulated or otherwise then it's just someones opinion at the

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Reese
Bob Shell wrote: I'll quote myself, as I said in one of my books: Pornography is in the eye (and mind) of the beholder. The photograph acts only as a mirror. That reminds me of the old joke about the guy taking the ink blot test. Everytime the psychologist asked the guy what he saw in the

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Bob Shell
On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Tom Reese wrote: That reminds me of the old joke about the guy taking the ink blot test. Everytime the psychologist asked the guy what he saw in the inkblot the guy replied I see an orgy. After 15 inkblots and 15 orgies the psychiatrist said you

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That reminds me of the old joke about the guy taking the ink blot test. Everytime the psychologist asked the guy what he saw in the inkblot the guy replied I see an orgy. After 15 inkblots and 15 orgies the psychiatrist said you seem to be obsessed by sex. The

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Bob Shell wrote: On Monday, October 17, 2005, at 11:41 PM, David Mann wrote: It is pornography if the subject is in a situation or position that may be titillating to the viewer. There goes half of the advertising industry. There is a very specific legal definition of pornography.

Dragonfly Pornography. was:[Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues]

2005-10-18 Thread P. J. Alling
This fits that definition: http://www.whatsthatbug.com/images/dragonflies_mating_netherla.jpg Bob Shell wrote: On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 08:38 AM, frank theriault wrote: what would that be? The visual depiction of actual or simulated sexual activity. Bob -- When you're

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2005-10-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Just in case you want more, and kinkier... http://www.whatsthatbug.com/love_among_bugs_2.html P. J. Alling wrote: This fits that definition: http://www.whatsthatbug.com/images/dragonflies_mating_netherla.jpg Bob Shell wrote: On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 08:38 AM, frank theriault

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Raimo K
, October 18, 2005 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 08:38 AM, frank theriault wrote: what would that be? The visual depiction of actual or simulated sexual activity. Bob

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread Alan P. Hayes
At 6:57 PM -0600 10/17/05, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues It makes us careful. So what about that weird kids glamour site link that was posted to the list a couple of months back

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues don't know what it would be, but this subject line is awakening spam filters all over the world. Yer welcome. William Robb

Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-17 Thread William Robb
I wonder how many people won't see this because of the subject line - Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: More Texas Photo Issues By any chance did you refuse to print any that were of poor composition? Or perhaps poor exposure? Or maybe you just didn't like the the

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Oct 2005 at 18:28, William Robb wrote: Apparently, according to Janet Reno, no nudity is required to hit the child pornography definition. But if we publish it, we are in deep doodoo. It makes us careful. So what about that weird kids glamour site link that was posted to the list a

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-17 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues It makes us careful. So what about that weird kids glamour site link that was posted to the list a couple of months back (the one where they all had alien eyes

Re: Pornography Issues in Photo Labs. Was: Texas Photo Issues

2005-10-17 Thread David Mann
On Oct 18, 2005, at 1:28 PM, William Robb wrote: It is pornography if the subject is in a situation or position that may be titillating to the viewer. There goes half of the advertising industry. - Dave