Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-03 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Wed, 01 Jan 2014 20:11:53 -0800 Larry Colen wrote: I have a 31, I'm not enamored with it, but it does yeoman work as a standard prime. I despise the sun shade but was dissuaded from taking a dremel and removing it. The shade is useless on aps. I made one like the da 40 with a couple of

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-03 Thread P.J. Alling
Subject: Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...) That is me. But given the lack of quick focus shift, I think I'll be ok with the other lenses around that focal length I already have: FA28/2.8, K30/2.8, FA35/2. Heck, I even have the M28/3.5 and the M35/2.8. Maybe I have too many lenses

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-02 Thread Larry Colen
are you using your K and M lenses on? Jonathan -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Juan Buhler Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 12:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...) That is me. But given

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Juan Buhler
OK. So, after thinking a lot, and more importantly, after going out to shoot with the 6D and a nice Zeiss 35mm lens, I've decided to stay with Pentax. I got some really nice frames from the 6D. The shallower depth of field is really noticeable to me. But the camera is bulky, heavy, and so are

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Juan, I really like the 31. It's fast and kind of small and sharp. You'll not regret owning one. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com wrote: OK. So, after thinking a lot, and more importantly, after going out to shoot with the 6D and a nice Zeiss

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Juan Buhler
Thanks Bob... The idea of the 20-40 was really nice, but the 31 seems like it will be superb. Does the focusing ring allow you to move it with the camera on AF? j On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Juan, I really like the 31. It's fast and kind of small

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
No, the FA31 is an older screw drive AF lens and you don't have the modern convenience of touching-up the focus. I've pretty much lived on the AF results as is. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Bob... The idea of the 20-40 was

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread P.J. Alling
The only thing I don't like about the 31mm is the fixed lens hood, (I've only handled one once so maybe it's not a bit problem, but), it seems that might be problematic when it's used on an APS-C sensor camera. On 1/1/2014 12:32 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Thanks Bob... The idea of the 20-40 was

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I had the 31 Limited for a while and wasn't very enamored of it. I didn't think it worked so well for the size of the premium over the 35/2. And it is darn bulky. And I hated the stupid fixed lens hood. The 43/1.9 Limited was a different matter ... I almost kept a Pentax body just so I could

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Eactivist
Yes. Marnie aka Doe :-) Be nice to see you again. In a message dated 12/28/2013 2:35:00 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanbuh...@gmail.com writes: Definitely! I went to several of the PDML meetups, up until 2007 or so. And I've lived in the Bay Area for 18 years! We are going back after

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Juan Buhler
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: No, the FA31 is an older screw drive AF lens and you don't have the modern convenience of touching-up the focus. I've pretty much lived on the AF results as is. Oh. This might actually be the dealbreaker for me, I

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bill
On 01/01/2014 2:09 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: I think it will be the 20-40 for me then. Is this you: http://www.jbuhler.com/ ?? If so, I think it will be a lens you will find happiness with. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Juan Buhler
That is me. But given the lack of quick focus shift, I think I'll be ok with the other lenses around that focal length I already have: FA28/2.8, K30/2.8, FA35/2. Heck, I even have the M28/3.5 and the M35/2.8. Maybe I have too many lenses as it is :) j On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Bill

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bill
On 01/01/2014 2:58 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: That is me. But given the lack of quick focus shift, I think I'll be ok with the other lenses around that focal length I already have: FA28/2.8, K30/2.8, FA35/2. Heck, I even have the M28/3.5 and the M35/2.8. The 20-40 has quick shift. Maybe I have

RE: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread mail1
Juan, What camera are you using your K and M lenses on? Jonathan -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Juan Buhler Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 12:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Juan Buhler
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: The 20-40 has quick shift. Maybe I have too many lenses as it is :) You can never have too many lenses. We obviously never met in the old times of the PDML, but I see that the old enablement tradition is alive and

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bill
On 01/01/2014 3:12 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: The 20-40 has quick shift. Maybe I have too many lenses as it is :) You can never have too many lenses. We obviously never met in the old times of the PDML, but I see that

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Juan Buhler
Buhler Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 12:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...) That is me. But given the lack of quick focus shift, I think I'll be ok with the other lenses around that focal length I already have: FA28/2.8, K30/2.8, FA35/2

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Juan Buhler
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: We obviously never met in the old times of the PDML, but I see that the old enablement tradition is alive and well :) j kosh I have always been here. /kosh Well, since 1998, anyway. Ahh! I went back to the emails

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 1/1/14, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: I went back to the emails saved by gmail and figured out which Bill you are. This is not uncommon. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Rick Womer
Hmmm… It might be a horse race between Bill and Bob Sullivan… Rick On Jan 1, 2014, at 16:24 , Juan Buhler wrote: On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: kosh I have always been here. /kosh Well, since 1998, anyway. Ahh! I went back to the emails

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Never met a Pentax lens that I didn't need. Moved to a new house last month and the spare bedroom is full of Pentax lenses (and cameras). The 24, 30, and 28's are good substitutes for the 31mm. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmmm… It might

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
And the 35/2. Paul via phone On Jan 1, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Never met a Pentax lens that I didn't need. Moved to a new house last month and the spare bedroom is full of Pentax lenses (and cameras). The 24, 30, and 28's are good substitutes for the

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or

2014-01-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
The sentiment has probably been expressed, but with the last upgrade to the K3 I see no serious cause to switch. With that I would ask how format could be any concern. 24Mp on APS-C differs little from 24Mp in 135 form factor. There may be technical reasons to change for some professionals, but

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
And the M35/2 or A35/2. The K35/2 is a bit bulky and I don't have a FA35/2. On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: And the 35/2. Paul via phone On Jan 1, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Never met a Pentax lens that I didn't

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bill
On 01/01/2014 3:24 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: My apologies, sir. I think you might have *invented* the tradition of enablement around these parts. No apologies needed. I change screen names every now and again to maintain fear and loathing in the hearts of the plebs. I'm not sure if I invented

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bill
On 01/01/2014 5:44 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: And the M35/2 or A35/2. The K35/2 is a bit bulky and I don't have a FA35/2. I like the A35/2. It's beguilingly compact, and takes nice clear pictures. I've heard it is fairly rare as well. I can't believe you don't have the FA35/2. It has nice

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paul via phone On Jan 1, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/01/2014 5:44 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: And the M35/2 or A35/2. The K35/2 is a bit bulky and I don't have a FA35/2. I like the A35/2. It's beguilingly compact, and takes nice clear pictures. I've

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
The FA35/2 comes around often. It was available at BH recently, but I like the 31 Limited so much that I can never bring myself to buy it. The one I'm proud of is the F28/2.8. Not many of those around and very small. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bill

RE: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2014-01-01 Thread mail1
-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Juan Buhler Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 12:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...) That is me. But given the lack of quick focus shift, I think I'll be ok with the other lenses around that focal length I

What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Juan Buhler
Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a lot of the old names and the pdml has always been an awesome group of people. As some of you might know, I've shot with Pentax all my photographic life. Starting with an ME-Super, going through PZ-1, MX (I still

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
All I can say is that the K-3 image quality is terrific. I suspect it would equal the 60D, although the sensor wouldn't be as large. (Both cameras shoot a full frame:-). The autofocus of the K-3 is much improved over the K-5, but I don't know that it's the equal of Canon. Paul On Dec 28, 2013,

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Stan Halpin
Juan - I have been enjoying the adventures of Milo and envy you your trip. With each photo you posted I played a bit of a guessing game: Did he shoot this one with Leica or Pentax? I never found any defining characteristic in the subjects or in the rendering which gave a clue as to which one you

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Juan - just buy the K-3 - clearly your pro-con list is leaning that way :-) gotta keep having your photos in the PDML Annual.. ann - (who diverted to the dark-side briefly and came back to the fold.) On 12/28/2013 11:48, Juan Buhler wrote: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Eactivist
The Canon 24/105 is a great lens. Just saying... Marnie aka Doe :-) Actually so is the 17-40, I believe. In a message dated 12/28/2013 8:48:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanbuh...@gmail.com writes: Hello all, I don't post here much anymore, but I decided to ask this because I see a

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 02:48:00PM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote: Now the time has came to renew my DSLR. Obviously, an option that is up there is a K3. It seems like a camera I'd love, and given that it's a Pentax, I can just use it without waiting for my fingers to learn where the controls are.

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Few random idea, Juan, if I may. 1. Canon 60D is not a full frame camera. The Canon 6D however is. 2. You can buy a bundle of 6D plus 24-105/4L relatively cheap. Further it stands to reason that currently there're further discounts. 3. I would suggest you double check whether you could adapt

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/12/13, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: What says the PDML? It seems like the only good thing about Pentax not releasing a FF camera is that Cotty's hat is still intact, no? I suspect it will stay intact for a while longer mate ;-) Amazing to hear from you! What the hell are Pixar

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/12/13, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: or get a 60D ($1300 Do you mean a 6D (36X24 sensor) or a 60D (APS-C sensor) ?? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ --

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Well, based on everything I've read lately, if you're not sticking with Pentax the better choice as far as imaging would be Nikon. I haven't compared Nikon and Canon directly for autofocus speed but others have said that Nikon is as good as Canon at for that at least at the upper end of their

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Juan Buhler
Thanks all for the thoughtful replies. Sorry--I was thinking 6D and looking at the 6D reviews, but somehow wrote 60D. Maybe it was some kind of Freudian thing that means that I want to stay with a smaller-than-35mm format. Or it might mean the opposite, the only sure thing is that it was Freudian

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Juan Buhler
Funny, I was writing when your email arrived. The Sony a7r I discard, after hearing the shutter and seeing its frame to frame VF blackout. I hear the cheaper a7 might be better in those regards, and seriously, it is tempting. Wouldn't it be great to have one of those with an SMC M 50/1.4 on it? It

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread P.J. Alling
I've heard that the Sony shutters are loud too. But then again, I'm still shooting a K20D and there's talk about how loud that shutter is, until I talk too some of my friends who are shooting mid range Canon and Nikon bodies, and then they tell me how quiet my camera is, (I guess they don't

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 06:37:21PM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote: BTW, one more thing: I might be getting an M9 to replace the M8. Not buying it--it's a long story, but basically I'll have an M9 to use and keep as long as I want. So maybe that will take care of the full frame urges. I'm flying to

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 01:54:20PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 06:37:21PM -0200, Juan Buhler wrote: BTW, one more thing: I might be getting an M9 to replace the M8. Not buying it--it's a long story, but basically I'll have an M9 to use and keep as long as I want. So

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Juan Buhler
Definitely! I went to several of the PDML meetups, up until 2007 or so. And I've lived in the Bay Area for 18 years! We are going back after this trip, San Francisco is home after all. Are you guys still meeting from time to time? j On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 7:09 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
We get together but very occasionally, usually when someone is visiting town. Last time was when Jostein was here. It would be great to see you again, do tell when you'll be in town. I have thoughts on the Great Camera Hunt ... But that'll be another post. :-) Godfrey -- Godfrey DiGiorgi -

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Two things: 1 – I hope you can contribute to the PDML Photo Annual this year 2 – I think the K3 would work for you, but if you consider switching I think the new Sony full-frame A7 and A7r cameras would be suitable for street photography. Smaller than cameras with a reflex mirror and quieter,

Re: What would you do (stay with Pentax, or...)

2013-12-28 Thread John
I was saving up for a full-frame Pentax. Doesn't look like that's in the near future, but that's Ok, because some other things came up wiped out the money I was saving for that, setting me back to square one. Maybe Pentax will have something to offer me by the time I've saved up again. On